From bens Sun Sep 1 21:46:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g821k3Z26058 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:46:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:46:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209020146.g821k3326054@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: SIII for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A red SIII that I have seen parked around the Marina area of San Francisco for the past 5 years had a For Sale sign on it this weekend the number is 415-309-6105. The sign said it has a Chevy engine. Kevin From bens Sun Sep 1 23:31:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g823Vux26556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:31:56 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:31:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209020331.g823Vu626552@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SIII for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Kevin Kelly wrote: > > A red SIII that I have seen parked around the Marina area > of San Francisco > for the past 5 years had a For Sale sign on it this > weekend the number is > 415-309-6105. The sign said it has a Chevy engine. doesit have a black rack on top? I think this is Scotty's son Andrew's old rover. The rack was built for the old roof-top tent I have been in the middle of restoring for the last six years.....been meaning to get back in touch with teh owner to try to get that rack..... It's a good truck if this is it. I last saw it as Scotty's a few years ago as he was doing maintenance on it still.. Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 2 14:36:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g82Iah831854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:36:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:36:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209021836.g82Iahb31850@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! Tom 88 RR Durango From bens Mon Sep 2 15:11:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g82JBsj32020 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:11:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:11:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209021911.g82JBs832016@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org CONGRATULATIONS! >Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten >Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > >Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! From bens Mon Sep 2 20:32:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g830Wh001053 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:32:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:32:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209030032.g830WhP01049@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 18 lines filtered. ] Congratulations. Mendo in 2yrs? Mehdi From bens Tue Sep 3 01:03:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8353JN03487 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:03:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:03:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209030503.g8353JV03483@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Way to go! I'm about two months behind ya ( err... my wife... that is ) TomW :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: another announcement: future LR driver > > Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten > Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > > Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! > > Tom > 88 RR > Durango [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 3 01:15:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g835FEs03569 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:15:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209030515.g835FEh03565@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 15 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 9/2/02 11:37:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tjoyner@earthlink.net writes: > Sten > Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > > You mean your wife actually gave birth in the Series? That is either respect for the father, or a complete desire to raise children right. Congratulations to you, the mother of your children, and your commitment to our marque. Zack From bens Tue Sep 3 01:38:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g835cP403662 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:38:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:38:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209030538.g835cPa03658@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "APG:BEN" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #837 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org < "Thomas Joyner" From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: re. Nur-Dum? or other off-roading around that area on Monday? was.... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well...I didn'yt even get to a trail! ;-( The Disco blew a tranny cooler line and puked all my tranny fluid onto the hot exhaust, side of the truck, me..anyone/thing nearby etc...I ended up waiting for over nine hours after calling AAA with constant insurance the truck was on the way...just got dropped off now at my folks at 3:30(still 100 miles from home....arrrrrghhh! off to get some sleep before getting up to call hte AAA ombudsman to see what they will now do for me fopr what they put me through....bleah!!!! Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 12:14:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83GEWs07578 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:14:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:14:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031614.g83GEWR07574@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Brian Foster" To: Subject: Wow... list has been interesting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > From: "Thomas Joyner" > Subject: another announcement: future LR driver > Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten > Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! Congratulations Tom and family! As for the Sean discussion: I don't remember the circumstances behind his situation, but I do remember his assistance and kind words on the list. Since I am in SoCal, I don't think I have had a chance to meet him. However, I look forward to his return and wish him all the best. I spotted a very heavily modified yellow D90 in the Lowe's (Tustin CA) parking lot about 3 weeks ago. I am not sure if that person joined the list (introduce yourself if you are here). We had a very nice, brief discussion in the parking lot (I was standing there drooling over his D90 and he was happy to share information about it) and then we parted ways. Brian Foster From bens Tue Sep 3 12:15:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83GFdb07652 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:15:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031615.g83GFd407648@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Gbrovers@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 8/30/02 7:45:47 PM, dow@thelen.org writes: << I wanted to let those who are interested know that he was acquitted on all counts against him today. >> Great news. Bill GBR From bens Tue Sep 3 12:39:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83Gdj508066 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:39:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:39:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031639.g83GdjX08062@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I feel clueless. Who is Sean Murphy? From bens Tue Sep 3 12:51:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83GpSn08172 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:51:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:51:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031651.g83GpSK08168@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Roof-rack tent Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm not sure if the person selling this is on the list or not, but I remember some discussion about these the other day. Thought someone might find good use of it. Thanks, Stirling. http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/nby/car/5367230.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 12:58:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83GwTH08204 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:58:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:58:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031658.g83GwTF08200@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I feel clueless...." I'm with you James. But from the general subject matter, I thought I'd probably just as soon remain that way. Sounds like whoever he is, he's earned the right for this situation to not intrude in any way on my potential dealings with him. I thought the best way to be sure that was the case was to have as little knowledge of it as possible. :^) -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 3 13:13:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83HD6p08359 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:13:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:13:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031713.g83HD6i08355@minbar.fourfold.org> From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Koenig LR winches for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello List- I've decided to sell both of my Koenig winches- I have both a PTO model and a crankshaft driven model. Both are complete and working and I'd prefer to sell them to someone local rather than have to ship them or put them on eBay. I'd like $800 for each. I'm in San Jose, CA and can be reached at 650-604-0938 days or 408-225-8396 evenings. I will most likely be available on Sunday if you want to come by before or after the Palo Alto British Field meet- I might even make it there myself. I can take some digital pictures of them in the next few days if that helps. thank you, Carl Kruger oldvespa@aol.com From bens Tue Sep 3 13:21:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83HLgZ08445 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:21:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:21:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031721.g83HLgp08441@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I met Sean back when Mini-Mania was in Milpitas. He was a mech. thereat., and a gentleman. First I've heard of his "troubles". Now that this has been made public, what happened? >>> jhoward@lowell.edu 09/03/02 09:39AM >>> I feel clueless. Who is Sean Murphy? From bens Tue Sep 3 13:28:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83HSUh08539 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:28:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:28:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031728.g83HSTm08535@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Land Rover "dealer" in Half Moon Bay? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone recall the url of the place that sells various older and Euro-spec Land Rovers out of Half Moon Bay? I know it's been posted here a few times but I can't seem to find reference to it right now at all. Thanks! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Tue Sep 3 14:11:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83IBmC08886 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:11:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:11:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031811.g83IBmf08882@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: dead gauges on dash... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On the "brighter side", you'll have a stronger bond with your vehicle after solving the problem. I've spent many hours peering over large scale wiring diagrams for my XJ6 to later realize a mid year revision was not documented. Patience is key. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:56:12 -0400 From: Christopher Dow Subject: Re: dead gauges on dash... ...............I'd be interested to know what could be the cause, as well. C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 14:22:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83IMmr08970 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:22:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:22:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031822.g83IMmo08966@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: air bag failure sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Southbound I5 near Lake Pyramid last night I passed a stock RR Classic with emergency flashers travelling about 45mph as everyone whizzed by. Judging by the "slammed" look, jarring ride and twitching light beams, I figured air bag failure. I was in my non LR so I couldn't offer any visual comraderie, but actually, I couldn't help but chuckle a bit as I went by. Sorry, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 14:52:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83Iqic09167 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:52:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:52:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031852.g83Iqix09163@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: air bag failure sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org had to read it a couple times before I figured out you weren't talking about the ones in the dash... :^) -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 3 14:57:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83Ivd309229 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:57:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:57:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031857.g83IvcW09225@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Whitbeck To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: air bag failure sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] David wrote: Me too. The "slammed" part made sense if the dash airbag failed but I couldn't get the rest... ************** Peter Whitbeck Peter@RailCarAmerica.com http://www.railcaramerica.com/pw/ From bens Tue Sep 3 15:16:24 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83JGOE09481 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031916.g83JGOs09477@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Also for Land Rovers: THE PALO ALTO BRITISH CAR MEET SUNDAY - September 8th Be part of the biggest all British automotive lawn event in California. Over 500 classic, quirky and thoroughly lovable British cars are expected to fill the field at El Camino Park in Palo Alto, for the 23rd Annual Palo Alto British Car Meet. Join us for the Best All British Car Show In The West! Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods & works-in-progress are as welcome as concours quality show cars. Great British food, jazz, parts, literature, toys and gifts and more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! People's Choice awards in six classes. Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the park. Cars will be placed on the field by marque, starting at 9:00AM, and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is $25 per car at the gate. There is no preregistration. All participants will receive a commemorative gift. Spectators park and attend free. DIRECTIONS El Camino Park is located on the El Camino Real, just north of University Avenue, opposite Stanford Center, >From 101 take University Ave west, go under the Alma Street overpass, and turn right onto the El Camino Real. From 280, take the Sandhill Road Exit east and turn right on the El Camino, stay to the right to the University Ave exit, turn left at the overpass, then left again back onto the El Camino heading north. Trailer parking is available on-site at the park. DO NOT PARK TRAILERS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER PARKING LOT PLEASE! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 15:27:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83JRpA09571 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:27:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209031927.g83JRoH09567@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: air bag failure sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Me three. I prefer to call the ones in the suspension "air springs". Peter Whitbeck wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ Included Original Message ] > [ 17 lines filtered. ] > David wrote: > > about > the ones in the dash... :^)> [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] - From bens Tue Sep 3 17:14:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83LE8b10177 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:14:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:14:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209032114.g83LE8C10173@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Flying Land Rover?/Congrats Tom Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org My vote would go for a Cessna 185. Way loud(!), kinda slow, burns tons of gas, carries loads of gear, good off the tarmac and can be fitted with the aero version of a roof rack-- the belly pod. Tom, I am impressed you became a father and passed your check ride in the same week. Congrats on both fronts-- both are quite an achievement, and both are a license to learn. My last flight as PIC was a month before our twins were born (8 yrs ago, yikes!). I saw the writing on the wall when it came to the hours I wanted to fly to stay proficient as well as the $$ required to provide 100LL vs diapers, etc... Hope to get back to it again some day. Cheers, Blair (who sometimes has to remind wife that 2 Rovers are still cheaper than 1 airplane and that the garage is much closer to the house than the hangar) From bens Tue Sep 3 17:19:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g83LJGS10256 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:19:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:19:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209032119.g83LJGu10252@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: dead gauges on dash... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On my 110 the gauges seem to work, but the back lights between the clock and the oil pressure gauge seem to alternate as to which one works. Sometimes they both work, but usually it's on or the other. It's been on the to-do list for some time, but has recently moved up now that it appears that the flap that opens the main dash vents is stuck closed. How big of a deal is it to pull the whole dash apart? (I started to take some of it apart, but then stopped as I was running out of time.) Shannon On Saturday, August 31, 2002, at 03:02 PM, Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi, > Because the lights are also dead I'd be looking at the grounding of the > instruments or the panel if it is common. > > Bob B > > At 10:19 AM 8/31/2002, you wrote: > [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 3 20:30:59 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g840UxG11519 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:30:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:30:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040030.g840Uw111515@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Have been thinking of buying a trailerable sail boat but would need a tow vehicle. Will a Classic Range Rover tow a 5,000# boat on a quality, purpose built, tandem axle trailer??? Assume it has a relatively light tongue load as the tongue extends a long way beyond the end of the boat. Would have to make an initial tow from Michigan to the West Coast. After that, it would only be a few hundred yard tow from parking at the harbor to the launching ramp. MIA (mahalo in advance) for your help. Aloha Peter O. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 20:56:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g840uwk11682 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:56:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:56:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040056.g840uv411678@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Who is going? I am planning on being there, but probably not in a rover product. I will be there with the midget/sprite group, probably driving a friends lbc! ;-) (hopefully his racing bugeye! well see....gotta do work for him tomorrow for hte Morris Travelall first. Joe? what are you driving? Nick? one dormie or two? ;-) Is there going ot be the usual rover group bbq? sausages et al? ;-) Paul --- joe mulqueen wrote: > > Also for Land Rovers: > > > THE PALO ALTO BRITISH CAR MEET > SUNDAY - September 8th > > > Be part of the biggest all British automotive lawn [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] OUCH!!!!! getting pricey nowadays...have not driven a beast onto the field for many years, last time was the jensen healey in '94 and the landie in '91 or '92! There > is no preregistration. All participants will receive a > commemorative gift. hopefully worth the 25 clams! and not just a flimsey token. Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 3 21:16:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841G1i11781 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040116.g841G0u11776@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This brings up a question: They have airplanes: you can't see them when they're up there, so wouldn't this be considered "lying in wait"? Granted, their planes were recently grounded for FAA violations... Charles On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:35:10 -0400 "Kevin Kelly" writes: > > Zack wrote: > > >The CHP is prohibited from lying in wait ( the kind > >of trap mentioned.) any stories to the contrary, and > >I'd bet that it happens, though not with the regularity > >reported. > > I drive through the McArthur Tunnel on my way to and from the Golden [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 21:16:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841G6711806 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040116.g841G6p11791@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris, I had no idea that Sean was the same one that worked at Mini-Mania! I'm VERY happy that his name has been cleared. Charles On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:45:21 -0400 Christopher Dow writes: > > You may recall that Leslie posted some information regarding Sean > Murphy's (that's Sean A. Murphy, the seriers/101FC owner and Land > Rover/Mini mechanic,NOT Sean P. Murphy the D90 owner) trial. I > wanted > to let those who are interested know that he was acquitted on all > counts > against him today. > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 21:16:07 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841G7G11810 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040116.g841G6311796@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for Central Valley (Stockton) Surplus stores? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, Dunno where they are, but try... Surplus City Jeep Parts: when they were in L.A., they sold everything upto 2 1/2 ton troop carriers, and an occasional tracked-vehicle. (it's the place Arnold crashed into in the film "Commando", from what I understand) When I was repainting Gillian, I bought the last 2 cans of "sand" spray paint they still had in L.A., as they were in the process of moving & didn't have much left down here. They're somehwere in the Stockton/Sacramento area...I think somebody on the list knows more on where they are...used to have a website. Dunno if this place has much surplus, but there's this place near Fresno called Valley Hardware: they're a Caterpillar dealer (a hardware store???), and they recently got a batch of ex-Mil HUMVEE's! They're alongside Highway 99. Charles On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:21:46 -0400 "Turner, Jon [LFS]" writes: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 19 lines filtered. ] > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not > understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > charset="iso-8859-1" [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 21:16:07 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841G7311824 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040116.g841G6811805@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: coatings and costs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, acrylic enamels are verboten in Kalifornia: the claim is that they're too toxic/eating ozone/etc. You used to be able to buy quantities for painting "metal sheds" in your yard, but I recently tried this, and it doesn't work anymore - they won't sell it to 'ya. Body shops used to be able to buy the stuff, not sure if they still can. Only thing "approved" in Kalifornia, is urethane, and as a result, the formerly high price is even higher now. Metallics, reds, and yellows are the most expensive: I was recently given a quote of $400.00/gallon for a urethane color in Visalia, while that very same gallon in L.A. was selling for $700! Charles On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 01:01:34 -0400 joe mulqueen writes: > > Hello, > I have info for anyone considering painting their > vehicle with single stage urethane. From cheapest to > the most expensive paints, it's: Acrylic enamel (such > as Dupont Centari), single stage acrylic urethanes, > and then two stage (base/clearcoat) paints. I painted > my Rover with Centari and a friend painted my jag with > same to good results. It's fairly safe for the home [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 21:16:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841G8T11834 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:16:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040116.g841G7j11823@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Fw: Best ever resignation letter(more humor) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I actually have to think about it... I worked in an airline for 11 years: it was a union shop. The union was a VERY weak one, and the company knew it. There were some good people there, but unfortunately, most were not. The final straw for me, was the union taking 4 years to negotiate a 2-year contract. They threw in buyout options for senior employees, so I took it (the money) and left - along with the few other good people that they had there, the worst of the bunch remaining (knowing nobody else would hire them). Since I left, they've been hit with $500,000 in Customs fines for failing to maintain the import records(!) a year after I left (I had the files setup 5 years in advance - all they had to do, was to place newer files in their respictively-marked cabinets!), two supervisors were downgraded back to Customer Service Agents by the company (not qualified to perform their jobs as Supervisors...the station could run itself!), the only good manager there bailed out on the place and moved back east, and two low-seniority agents decided that the military was better than spending the rest of their lives there!!! Also, the CEO was fired, and the number 2 man was told that he'd be better off if he resigned. While I have no problem with companies having unions, there's no point in having a weak one, because all it does is create an "Us vs. Them" mentality that never goes away. I have enough drama in my life (none), and I didn't need that anymore. Was just watching an HBO special with my girlfriend last night, about the Teamsters trying to organize Overnite Trucking: they moved into several terminals, created the mentality I mentioned above, and within months there was a strike. This happened in October 1999, AND THE STRIKE IS STILL GOING TODAY! More than half the employees that walked have returned to work (1500 out of 3500+ walked) - but now there's bad feelings in a place where people used to work happily for 30-40 years and retire. I never let "Them" instill that mentality on me, and it's probably why some people there didn't like me very much (they used to ask me who's interests were more important, the company's, or the Union's - I'd answer "Mine") While I can feel that the employee that "wrote" that resignation letter probably should have been let go (I don't know if its real), I can relate, because I wasted 11 years of my life working with the kind of people that he/she worked for. Only difference, is I was smart enough to leave before I became that employee. Charles On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:32:50 -0400 "Bruce R. Bonar" writes: > > > > Charles R Irvin wrote: > > > I'm sure that some folks on this list can identify... > > But with which one Charles? :-) > [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 21:25:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841Ph111883 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:25:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:25:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040125.g841Phu11879@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll be there ..in the D130, which will be offered for sale....... daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH > > Who is going? > > I am planning on being there, but probably not in a rover > product. I will be there with the midget/sprite group, > probably driving a friends lbc! ;-) (hopefully his racing > bugeye! well see....gotta do work for him tomorrow for hte > Morris Travelall first. > [ 36 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 3 21:40:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841e5D11956 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:40:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:40:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040140.g841e4A11952@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 141 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. We'll be over in the 110. Planing on joining the convoy from West Coast British in Livermore. -------------------------- Jon Turner LifeScan, Inc. 408.956.4457 sent via Blackberry From bens Tue Sep 3 21:43:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g841hjD11981 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:43:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:43:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040143.g841hie11977@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for Central Valley (Stockton) Surplus Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org They are in Oroville next to hwy 70. The owner lives here in Paradise. Our daughters were high school class mates. And yes they have a large amount of stuff, and things, and trucks, and generators and, and, and,,,,, Bob B At 06:16 PM 9/3/2002, you wrote: >John, > >Dunno where they are, but try... > >Surplus City Jeep Parts: when they were in L.A., they sold everything >upto 2 1/2 ton troop carriers, and an occasional tracked-vehicle. (it's >the place Arnold crashed into in the film "Commando", from what I >understand) When I was repainting Gillian, I bought the last 2 cans of >"sand" spray paint they still had in L.A., as they were in the process of [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 3 22:18:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g842IQQ12174 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:18:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:18:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040218.g842IPt12170@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Interesting stuff out there... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks (and Paul)... Was gone from Wednesday eve, to this afternoon...went with the SO to Reno, for the Nugget's annual rib cook-off (and had better get myself back on to a bicycle soon!!!). The event was great, though the SO forgot to call for a hotel room when she initially thought about it - and I as a result, didn't call either! Ended up staying at the Motel 6 in Fallon, due NO rooms in Reno, Spakrs, Carson City, Virginia City, or Fernley!!! While there, we decided to head upto Black Rock, because Janet wanted to see where the land speed record runs were, and had heard about Gerlach from people she works with in Reno: we get there, and discover that Burning Man is in progress. She'd never heard about it, and wants to go! So, we drive out onto the playa and upto the main gate, and are greeted by two security guards, a couple of Washoe County's finest, and a topless brunette, and are promptly told that since we don't have tickets/reservations, that we can "...turn the car around, head back to the highway - and don't come back."! So, we did. On the way out there (Saturday evening), we were passed by not one, but TWO dark colored (too dark to see exactly what color) D-90SW's - one towing an airstream!!! (that you, Chris?) Saw 6 Rangies in the Fallon/Fernley area, an AA Yellow D-90 soft top heading into Fernley on the day of our arrival (Friday) Yup...interesting weekend... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 3 23:19:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g843JjF12487 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:19:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:19:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040319.g843JjV12483@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: "Mendo_Recce" , Subject: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Aloha everyone, I switched out ring and pinions over the weekend. The 4.7s were just to low with the 6.2l engine. Even with an overdrive I was running hi RPMs at 65mph. Not redline, but hi enough to effect fuel milage. That and I left it in OD all the time and was only using 2,3,4 driving around. So D110 R&P for the Salisbury and a Range Rover center section for the front. I still have a 70:1 first low even with the 3.54s. Went out and played in the dirt today. Was my first time to do any real 4-wheeling since doing the engine swap. Just amazing the power this thing has now. Found a very steep hill. First low, idled about half way up until the tires broke loose. 2nd low, made it to the same point just at idle. Simply amazing. It's geared lower then stock, plus has about 3x the power. She just idles over everything. It was a long expensive journey but damn I am a happy camper. Hoping to go out on Saturday with some other Rovers and see how it is in a head to head. I was getting 20mpg before the R&P swap. Am hoping to break 25 now. Will do a road trip later in the week and see how it goes. With the stock tank, the aux tank, and one 5 gallon can I should have a 1000+ mile cruising range. Basically my tank will give out before the Rover's tank :). Had a chance to tow a 4000lb trailer last week before the R&P. She pulled it a whole lot easier then my 5.0 GMC half ton. The Rocky Mountain parabolics are great. My 88 is approaching 5000lbs when fully loaded so I went with 3 leafs front and rear. Front end is perfect. Rear is stiff. I haven't installed the 25gallon aux fuel tank yet, so will wait for that before deciding on removing the rear third leaf or not. The RMs did lift her up a bit more also. Definately have room for 35's if I decide to get rid of the 33s. Pete From bens Tue Sep 3 23:36:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g843aXd12622 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:36:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:36:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040336.g843aWm12618@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From: Peter Ogilvie >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:30:58 -0400 > >Have been thinking of buying a trailerable sail boat >but would need a tow vehicle. Will a Classic Range >Rover tow a 5,000# boat on a quality, purpose built, [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] hi there, not too sure what the convertion is in lbs but i'm pritty certain all land rover 90/110/range Rover/disco can tow 3.5 ton (excluding weight of vehicle) will coupled breaks i think the gross train weight (vehicle+trailer+load [i.e. boat}) can be upto 7.5 ton's!! Obviously make sure your breaks are in good condition (same with tralier). i used to find with my 90 that anything over 2 ton would really compess the springs so you could think about fitting either H/D rear springs or the air helper springs??? Range Rovers make really good tow vehicles due to the wheel base, same goes with the 110's, although i tow alot with a 90 and find it works really well, especially when reversing due to the shorter wheel base. Hope this helps? Tim _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From bens Tue Sep 3 23:45:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g843j6k12677 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:45:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:45:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040345.g843j6u12673@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was under the impression that CHP didn't set up speed traps...weren't allowed. I also seem to remember hearing news a little while back that they are now able and doing so... Whatever the case may be, CHP DOES set up speed traps. I have noticed numerous in my several trips to LA and to Santa Barbara. In fact, just this past weekend returning from Santa Barbara, my Valentine One saved my butt as I was coming around this turn. He was in the inside of the turn hiding in the shrubbery. I had barely enough time. Going to LA, I often notice them hiding in the median. The good news is they have always had their radar guns going constantly. I usually have the luxury of a half mile or so of warning. I also got to see one of CHP's new white Cameros with the ultra thin light bar on top. =:o Be safe out there...and ticket free. Eric Fournier On Tuesday, September 3, 2002, at 06:16 PM, Charles R Irvin wrote: > > This brings up a question: > > They have airplanes: you can't see them when they're up there, so > wouldn't this be considered "lying in wait"? > > Granted, their planes were recently grounded for FAA violations... > > Charles [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 3 23:51:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g843pMV12742 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:51:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:51:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040351.g843pMg12738@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Unfortunately, I won't be able to make my planned "suprise" trip up there: was going to make it there because I'm buying a set of Snap-On Whitworth wrenches from a Rover car buddy, but due to circumstances beyond my control... Didn't have much time to type it last week, but I now have cellphone service through T-Mobile: got a 1000 minute plan for $39.95. It was a "special offer" that expired yesterday, and it required a 1-year contract, BUT........ Compared to my Sprint plan, this one is MUCH better. I have 1000 minutes to use day or night, and UNLIMITED WEEKEND MINUTES!!! Since I used 830 minutes with Sprint last month - the most I've used this year, this plan should work just fine. Sprint was giving me 200 "anytime minutes" (read daytime), and 3300 night/weekend minutes. Since I use more minutes during the day, this didn't work. Another plus to T-Mobile, is that they have live people answering their customer service lines - not machines. An interesting thing about them...I got a call from them on Friday morning - it was an automated advertisement. I was about to hang up until it said that if I listened to the entire message, I would receive 10 minutes of airtime credited to my account...it was only a 30-second message! Also, the sales rep I talked to gave me his cellphone number, so if I have any questions at all, I can call him - now THIS is what I call service! Bad thing about them: they're still building up their service areas, so you really have to check their maps to see what they're offering. However, they are honest when their maps show what areas they are available in, and the areas where you have no service. It shows they cover the central valley from L.A. to Sacramento along Highway 99, and they do. Was talking to a few people while going over the Grapevine on I-5, and never lost any part of a call. Also had clear service along I-210, from Tujunga to Newhall - no signal loss. It shows they cover I-80 from Sacramento to Reno, and they do - all the way up and over Donner, I had a strong and clear signal. I even had a strong signal along Highway 58 between Bakersfield and Mojave, and along the 14 all the way down to Newhall. On their map for Reno and Sparks heading east, their service stops at Sparks, and they're not kidding...once we passed the last exit in Sparks, the signal went to "Emergency Only", and later no service at all. So far I'm pleased with them, and will be more pleased when their service area begins to expand more. The phone - not bad... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 00:07:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84473v12941 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:07:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:07:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040407.g84473912937@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Daniel Oppenheim wrote: > > I'll be there ..in the D130, which will be offered > for sale....... > daniel Hey, want another 1960 88 to restore? Even trade, The African for your 130. :) Sounds like a deal to me... Stirling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 4 00:38:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g844c2N14256 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:38:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:38:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040438.g844c2714252@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mahalo for the information. Looks like the RR will handle a 2.5 ton boat with no problem. Looking through some periodicals, discovered the 90 and 110 are certified to tow 5,000#s. Looks the RR is similarly rated Aloha Peter O. --- tim boorman wrote: > >From: Peter Ogilvie > >Have been thinking of buying a trailerable sail > boat > >but would need a tow vehicle. Will a Classic Range > >Rover tow a 5,000# boat on a quality, purpose > built, > [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > [ 39 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > http://mobile.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 4 00:41:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g844fJN14298 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:41:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:41:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040441.g844fJT14294@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: New 4.6 HSE Owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org After 6 months of car shopping I bought a new car tonight... In the last few months I've made offers on many cars including a D90, an M3, a 328i Cabrio, and even a 740i. I ended up buying a 1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE from a neighbor. Any tips on things to do to a new late model Land Rover (with air bags multiple coils and tons of other electronic stuff)... I hope to make it to Palo Alto in the new Range Rover this weekend... Kevin Kelly P.S. If anyone needs a factory dog guard for a Range Rover MkII make me an offer and I'll bring it to Palo Alto (I don't want to ship it) P.P.S. I'm also selling a front receiver for a Range Rover Classic (that might fit other Land Rovers) that even comes with a custom factory Range Rover front spoiler with a hole for the receiver. From bens Wed Sep 4 00:43:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g844hT814313 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:43:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:43:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040443.g844hTb14309@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > not too sure what the convertion is in lbs but i'm pritty certain all land > rover 90/110/range Rover/disco can tow 3.5 ton (excluding weight of vehicle) > will coupled breaks i think the gross train weight (vehicle+trailer+load > [i.e. boat}) can be upto 7.5 ton's!! > Not sure about the conversion either. In the USA 1 ton equals 2000lbs, so a 3.5 ton tow capacity would be 7,000lbs. I just spent the week towing a 4000lb camper with a 5.0l GMC and wouldn't want to pull much more then that over grades even though the truck is rated 7500. It would doit, just slowly ;-) I got some info from an RV place that rents out trailers. All data is for the NADA 1996 model year. D-90 3500lbs Disco 5500lbs RR 6500lbs. Have read that the RR is 7500 in low range. The newest RR with the 4.4l is listed as having a 7700 max tow capacity. Peter, make sure to have electric brakes on the trailer and you should have no problem. I mena it's not like you will be towing cross the Rockies or anything...hahahaha Saddle Rd would be the worse and it's so twisty curvy you don't need to worry about the grade much. For pulling up to the home, no reason you couldn't pop into low if needed. Aloha, Pete H. From bens Wed Sep 4 01:04:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8454b714415 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:04:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:04:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040504.g8454bU14411@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We signed Alex up for it. Cute little Samsung phone; he's mastered that already. Clock, alarm clock to wake up in the Am, plus his stereo CD player has an alarm clock, so he's doubled up. >Another plus to T-Mobile, is that they have live people answering their >customer service lines - not machines. I called and got a recording. > > >Bad thing about them: they're still building up their service areas, so >you really have to check their maps to see what they're offering. >However, they are honest when their maps show what areas they are >available in, and the areas where you have no service. They are using Cingulars pods until they get their own built. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista, 2001 Merlin Extra Fat 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Wed Sep 4 01:36:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g845adx14539 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:36:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:36:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040536.g845adr14535@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles R Irvin wrote: >... because I'm buying a set of Snap-On >Whitworth wrenches from a Rover car buddy, but due to circumstances >beyond my control... > I thought only British bikes and S1 used Whitworth ... let me know if he has another set. Frank From bens Wed Sep 4 01:37:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g845b5X14559 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:37:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:37:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040537.g845b5714555@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: New 4.6 HSE Owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congrads! what did you do with your old rangie? TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: New 4.6 HSE Owner > > After 6 months of car shopping I bought a new car tonight... > > In the last few months I've made offers on many cars including a D90, an M3, > a 328i Cabrio, and even a 740i. > > I ended up buying a 1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE from a neighbor. > From bens Wed Sep 4 02:11:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g846BWV14703 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:11:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:11:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040611.g846BWI14699@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #837 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 12 lines filtered. ] Tom writes: > Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten > Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > Congratulations to the Joyner Family. Karen & Munir Sindir From bens Wed Sep 4 02:28:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g846ScI14765 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:28:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:28:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040628.g846Sb014761@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >this past weekend returning from Santa Barbara, my Valentine One saved >my butt The Valentine One is a nice piece of equipment. The folks on the BMW motorcycle list are convinced that it is the ONLY detector worth considering. Cheers RW -- "Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying,'Dude, that was awesome!" From bens Wed Sep 4 02:52:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g846q3714865 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:52:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:52:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209040652.g846q3514861@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:04:37 -0400 john hess writes: > > We signed Alex up for it. Cute little Samsung phone; he's mastered > that already. Clock, alarm clock to wake up in the Am, plus his > stereo CD player has an alarm clock, so he's doubled up. I got the Motorola 280 Timeport: Tri-band GSM Worldphone, so if I decide to travel overseas, I can sign up for their World Service, and dial direct from/to anyplace. Cost more, but got a $50.00 rebate for the phone. > I called and got a recording. Interesting...I haven't looked at the phone number in their booklet, but the sales guy at the store wrote down a number for me. > They are using Cingulars pods until they get their own built. This explains why some of the paperwork sez that they use CDMA PCS, yet they then tell me I can't use my old QCP1960 phone...once their system is built, it won't support it. Oh well...all I know, is that I'm much happier with them, than with Sprint - who called me a few times yesterday/today...now WANTING to speak to me, after I complained to the Better Business Bureau! (I've NEVER been so angry with a company before!) Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 09:53:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84DrQQ17019 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:53:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:53:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041353.g84DrQ017015@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209040345.g843j6u12673@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > I was under the impression that CHP didn't set up speed traps...weren't > allowed. I also seem to remember hearing news a little while back that > they are now able and doing so... They've been doing it for years. Back in 1995 I recall driving my 88 up I-5 north of Sacarmento near Redding. Up ahead a helecopter peaks up above an overpass and drops back down. After the overpass were 10 to 15 CHP cars waiting. For the next 5 miles I passed another 10 on the side of the road with speeders that they had picked off. Funny, no one else thought that a hovering helecopter near the freeway might be suspicious. It was like shooting fish in a barrel Ben From bens Wed Sep 4 10:23:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84ENtT17460 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:23:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:23:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041423.g84ENtn17456@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI, Yep! I-5 north of Redding is mountains and lots of fairly sharp curves on hills. So there have been a lot of accidents including rolled over trucks. So CHP targets that area and also advertises that they are doing it. Of course when their fixed wing aircraft aren't grounded due to possible defective crankshafts, They patrol the rest of the state. (right now they have several borrowed fixed wings. So they are different colors) Every morning they talk to the local (Sacramento) TV stations and let us know where they will be that day. They probably do that in all major cities. Bob B At 06:53 AM 9/4/2002, you wrote: >In message <200209040345.g843j6u12673@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > > I was under the impression that CHP didn't set up speed traps...weren't > > allowed. I also seem to remember hearing news a little while back that > > they are now able and doing so... > > They've been doing it for years. Back in 1995 I recall driving my >88 up I-5 north of Sacarmento near Redding. Up ahead a helecopter peaks up >above an overpass and drops back down. After the overpass were 10 to 15 CHP [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 4 10:26:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84EQn017507 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:26:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:26:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041426.g84EQns17503@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209041423.g84ENtn17456@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Yep! I-5 north of Redding is mountains and lots of fairly sharp curves on > hills. So there have been a lot of accidents including rolled over trucks. > So CHP targets that area and also advertises that they are doing it. This trap that I'm recalling was on the flats of the valley south of Readding and north of Williams. Probably closer to Redding, but I don't recall anymore. It was a long straight shot. And the only place for them to hide was behind that overpass. Ben From bens Wed Sep 4 10:45:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Ej2A17662 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:45:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:45:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041445.g84Ej2117658@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...only place for them to hide was behind that overpass....." Must have had some old jet fuel they needed to use up or something. An officer on the overpass with a speed gun would have been lots less conspicuous, and lots less dangerous than a hovering chopper at low altitude over a freeway. Of course, ol' Ponch never did claim to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:08:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84F8SD17826 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:08:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:08:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041508.g84F8S517822@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Standing behind something with a speed gun is "good old Jersey Turnpike, And also New York state" I don't think CHP does that yet. Bob B At 07:45 AM 9/4/2002, you wrote: >"...only place for them to hide was behind that overpass....." > >Must have had some old jet fuel they needed to use up or something. An >officer on the overpass with a speed gun would have been lots less >conspicuous, and lots less dangerous than a hovering chopper at low altitude >over a freeway. Of course, ol' Ponch never did claim to be the sharpest >knife in the drawer. > >-Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:13:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84FD2M17865 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:13:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:13:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041513.g84FD2U17861@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209041508.g84F8S517822@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Standing behind something with a speed gun is "good old Jersey Turnpike, > And also New York state" > I don't think CHP does that yet. In the early 1990s I read an article of CHP setting up some test radar sites on the freeways in LA. All they did was emit on the radar bands--they didn't record data. They set up something like 20 of them. A pre-cursor to freeway photo radar I guess. They came back a unit length of time later to inspect them. (I'd guess 30 days) And found that all had either been destroyed or stolen by passing motorists. That was the last that I heard of that plan. And yes, the state troopers still lie in wait on the freeways in NJ and NY. (PA too). Ben From bens Wed Sep 4 11:38:59 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84FcxR18035 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:38:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:38:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041538.g84Fcxb18031@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Standing behind something with a speed gun is good old Jersey Turnpike,..." I'm not clear on how a trooper standing ON an overpass with a speed gun is any different than one sitting in a hovering helicopter, as far as "lying in wait" is concerned. My only problem with legal speed limit enforcement on California freeways is that in my experience (admittedly only maybe 5k miles worth of commuting and leisure travel, mostly I-5, 10, and 80 corridors), it's downright dangerous to travel at the legal limit when the majority of traffic is flowing at a much higher speed. Risk a ticket, or risk being rear-ended a hundred times a day. I know what my choice always was. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:42:47 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84FglU18077 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:42:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:42:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041542.g84FglD18073@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Spencer Knight" To: Subject: Dog guard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Kevin, Congratulations on the new truck. Did you keep your old truck as well? I'd be interested in the dog guard, any idea what you might like for it? Of course, I couldn't use it for a while, as my truck still doesn't have an engine! Thanks, Spencer '96 Range Rover 4.0 '96 Disco engine Big box of labeled parts Bigger box of unlabeled parts From bens Wed Sep 4 11:57:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84FvQw18218 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041557.g84FvQq18213@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org His buying the set was a fluke: he got them off EBay, originally thinking they were SAE, but when he got them he realized they were Whitworth - he already had a set, and asked me if I was still looking for some. My XK150 has lots of Whitworth stuff on it...gonna start restoring it soon, and will need 'em. Charles On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:36:39 -0400 "Franklin H. Yap" writes: > > Charles R Irvin wrote: > > >... because I'm buying a set of Snap-On > >Whitworth wrenches from a Rover car buddy, but due to circumstances > >beyond my control... > > > I thought only British bikes and S1 used Whitworth ... let me know > if he [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:57:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Fvao18233 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041557.g84Fvap18229@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter..... Did you do what I think you did to your Land Rover????? (I must have missed something here...) What gearbox/transfer case did you use? Charles On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:19:45 -0400 "Peter Hope" writes: > > Aloha everyone, > I switched out ring and pinions over the weekend. The 4.7s were > just to low > with the 6.2l engine. Even with an overdrive I was running hi RPMs > at > 65mph. Not redline, but hi enough to effect fuel milage. That and > I left > it in OD all the time and was only using 2,3,4 driving around. So [ 46 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:57:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84FvQ618225 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041557.g84FvQG18221@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, COMGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ween the baby on gear oil and Castrol brake fluid, and get yourself either a Luscombe, or an Aronca Champ...work your way upto an AT-6/SNJ-5, or maybe a Stearman, and be happy. C-130's cost too much to feed... Get your instrument rating at the VERY least, maybe a commercial and a multi-engine...then you can consider selling all the Rovers, and look at a Beech 18S... :) Charles - heading to the Reno Air Races in a couple of weeks... On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:36:43 -0400 "Thomas Joyner" writes: > > Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, > Sten > Thomas Joyner. Third and final in a series! > > Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! > > Tom > 88 RR [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 11:57:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Fvdb18250 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:57:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041557.g84FvdZ18246@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Actually, the ONLY place where it's announced, is in Sacramento on local television stations, and on a news/talk radio station in the Fresno area, that's at 107.5 FM: the rest of the state doesn't hear about it! Seems that whenever the state needs a little more cash, they'll take over a couple of rest areas along Highway 99 near Delano, or the two on I-5 near Williams, and they'll force ALL trucks in for a suprise inspection...seen 'em do it several times, and it was never announced. I've also seen them setup a portable truck scale on Highway 137 between Lindsay and Tulare, CHP cruisers all over the place to catch any trucks/speeders. This past weekend was a "Maximum Enforcement" weekend...I saw no more CHP cars out there than I would on a normal weekday...actually saw less. Another neat trick they employ, is sitting on the shoulder of on ramps - radar on. Doesn't matter if the on ramp is high, low, or level with the highway pavement, because they can still get a clear reading. The CHP does hide sometimes, but usually they don't - they sit in the open, but they sit in places where if you don't glance in that direction, you won't see them, like, in the shade under a tree, for example. My girlfriend and I were driving on Highway 245 the other day, and she nearly went flying past a CHP car parked on the other side, because it was in the shade & she didn't even notice a car sitting there! (the officer was out of the car, luckily) There's also the "Special Driving Zones", like Highway 17 between San Jose and Santa Cruz: get a ticket in one of these, and the fine is double what it would normally be anyplace else! (Highway 41/46 from the 101 into Chalome - where James Dean died, is also one of these zones) I was talking to a friends' fiance' a few weeks ago (he's a CHP sargeant), and I had asked him if the new Camaros were recalled - as I had only seen one on the roads. He said that most of them are being used as "public service vehicles" (ie: display/show cars!), while the rest are being used as "Commercial Enforcement Vehicles" - which means, they're using them NOT for catching speeding cars (what they were SUPPOSED to be used for), but rather, to go after tractor/trailers! I couldn't see the logic in this, because tractor-trailers are limited to 55 MPH here - a Voliswagen Microbus could catch one! So, rather than using them for what they were intendid for, most of those new Camaros will be seen sitting at a truck scale near you. (BTW - the one that I did see on the road: it was pulled over with a broke-down tractor-trailer on I-5 at Union Ave, near the southbound truck scale...) Oh well...your tax dollars at work... Charles On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:23:55 -0400 Bob & Sue Bernard writes: > > Every morning they talk to the local (Sacramento) TV stations and > let us > know where they will be that day. They probably do that in all major > cities. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 12:11:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GBqA18359 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:11:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:11:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041611.g84GBpc18355@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dog guard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What happened?????? I thought it was done by now. Charles On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:42:47 -0400 "Spencer Knight" writes: > >> Of > course, I couldn't use it for a while, as my truck still doesn't > have an > engine! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 12:12:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GC2A18373 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:12:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:12:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041612.g84GC2Z18367@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...and it's just as dangerous to have two groups of traffic travelling at two different speeds on the same pavement - as Kalifornia does. I used to wonder when somebody would wake up and realize that this is the major cause of accidents between trucks and cars - but after mentally tallying up all the money raked in by the state from speeding trucks (over 55mph, but keeping pace with cars), and that explains it. Saw on the news in Visalia the other day, an accident in which a drunk driver wandered into the median along Highway 99, woke up, swerved back onto the pavement - but kept going to the right, and slammed into the side of a tractor-trailer, rolled a few times before coming to a rest. The driver was okay, but his 19-year old passenger was ejected from the car and killed. Not sure what speed the truck was driving at (they didn't say), but they had determined that the car was under the 70 MPH speed limit. Was just reading on another car list about how good 'ol Kalifornia voted down a bill that would raise the smoking age to 21: the reason for voting it down, was because the state would lose too much revenue from the lost cigarrete sales to young people! Charles BTW Dave...you any relation to the Gomes Auto Repair in Fallon, Nevada??? On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:38:59 -0400 "Gomes, David" writes: > >it's downright > dangerous > to travel at the legal limit when the majority of traffic is flowing > at a > much higher speed. Risk a ticket, or risk being rear-ended a > hundred times > a day. I know what my choice always was. > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 12:25:34 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GPYG18515 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:25:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:25:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041625.g84GPXb18511@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: NV stuff Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....you any relation to the Gomes Auto Repair in Fallon, Nevada???..." Not that I know of. I didn't know there was one. I'll have to look out for them next time through there. Maybe I can get a free oil change or something. :^) I stayed at that Mo6 on my way back from Mendo one time. I think Fred and I stayed there on the way back from Zack's old place with the 109 too. Did you happen to catch the special that MTV did on "working girls" that was done entirely from the roadside house at Salt Wells? I stumbled across the write-up of it on their website, but I never did see the program. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 4 12:26:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GQiW18534 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:26:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:26:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041626.g84GQhG18530@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, The Williams office and the Fairfield office are known for their zealous pursuit of any towing anything. CHP sets up a portable scale just past the Butte county line on 99 heading toward Red Bluff, Also in Butte county they have a pickup loaded with truck technical info books and a special officer for setting up in several places. They stop the logging trucks heading downhill through Paradise at a wide spot. It's amazing how many are found to have bad brake problems. One truck at the place on the way to Red Bluff had too much weight and the truck sat there all day until someone could get there with a saw and shorten the logs a lot to meet requirements. Don't tell me a microbus could catch the trucks!! Very few are going 55. Even on SR-70 and SR-99 they will go 70 mph unless there is a car blocking their way. A week ago I went to Sacramento in our old Datsun pickup. (temporarily loaning it to daughter) I was doing 78+ on I-5 near ARCO arena and a white Camaro came up on my right as if to pass.(I was in the left lane) I slowed a little bit to let him in, but he just stayed along side, whenr I saw the CHP decal on the door. He exited on I-80 toward San Francisco without even looking at me. Bob B At 08:57 AM 9/4/2002, you wrote: >Actually, the ONLY place where it's announced, is in Sacramento on local >television stations, and on a news/talk radio station in the Fresno area, >that's at 107.5 FM: the rest of the state doesn't hear about it! > >Seems that whenever the state needs a little more cash, they'll take over >a couple of rest areas along Highway 99 near Delano, or the two on I-5 >near Williams, and they'll force ALL trucks in for a suprise >inspection...seen 'em do it several times, and it was never announced. >I've also seen them setup a portable truck scale on Highway 137 between [ 55 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 4 12:29:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GTBM18566 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:29:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:29:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041629.g84GTAJ18562@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Range Rover Towing Capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter, I would recommend the following. For the Range Rover: Check the max tow capacity in your manual Check the GCVWR in your manual Check the max tongue weight in your manual AAA Electric Brake Controller Good load rated tires for the increased axle weight. you don't want to run on the side walls. Check tire pressure at every fuel stop. For the Trailer: Electric Brakes Weight Disbursing Hitch Sway Control Good Tires Load gear evenly starting at the CG and moving foward Check tire pressure at every refuel stop. I see way too many folks towing stuff and their set up is totally dangerous. When you see the truck and trailer sag in the middle, hello, time for a weight disbursing hitch. Without it, your front end gets very light and it's hard to steer. Give up sway control on a single axle trailer, don't check the tire pressure and watch the trailer start whipping back and forth starting at about 50MPH. I've seen a couple of accidents where the trailer whipped itself onto it side and pulled the truck over too. Nothing like sliding down the freeway at 55 on your side watch your trailer pass you by... If it's a short trip off the freeway, a lot of times you can get away with it. If your planning a long trip at freeway speeds you really need to make it as safe as possible. Set your rig up for when you get cut you off and you have to slam on the brakes. Electric brakes with the bias set to the trailer helps to stop jack knifing. Everyone seems to hate being behind you and the safe space in front of you fills up with with everyone cutting you off. Charles please chime in here! Sway control allows you to go 65 or 70 in states that allow it. California is 55 but when you hit NV, AZ, NM it's 65, 70 and even 75. If your stuck doing 50 the closure rate for passing vehicles is too much and big rigs will cause you too whip all over. Tim is right about the 3.5 tones but he's thinking about the UK diesels. The V8's over here tow less. For safety I'd stay 500lbs under your max towing capacity. Ask Chris Dow about sway control on the Mojave trip last year! Sorry Chris you know we love you!!! Cheers, Keith From bens Wed Sep 4 12:40:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GegK18654 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:40:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:40:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041640.g84GegJ18650@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Test Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone get this? From bens Wed Sep 4 12:44:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GiEC18680 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:44:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:44:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041644.g84GiEJ18676@minbar.fourfold.org> From: BwanaE@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 1966 Series Ambulance for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] Hi folks, This was just sent to me by a friend of my son's who knows of my Landrover affliction. With 5 Rovers in hand I'm not looking for a new project so I'm throwing it out to the list. Mariposa is somewhat close by and I'm somewhat familiar with Series rigs so if anybody is interested I'd be happy to evaluate it for you. Here's the cut-n-paste: "There's a man here in Mariposa with a '66 Land Rover military ambulance for sale. He says it has 37,000 miles on it, and it seems to be in great, but unrestored, shape (the vented over-roof is bent up, and I don't think I'd paint a doghouse with as little care as he slapped a coat of drab on it, etc). I don't know about his claims of it being entirely original and such, but it is really cool looking. He wants nine or ten thousand for it and can probably be talked down another grand if you or any of your Rover buddies are interested -- having just gotten married, I'm a little too broke for any new toys myself. His number is (209)966-6603." Cheers, Eric. Eric Cope 1232 Appaloosa Road Angels Camp, CA. 95222 Home phone: 209-736-9279 Cell phone: 209-988-2842 E-mail: BwanaE@aol.com From bens Wed Sep 4 12:48:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GmJG18732 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:48:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:48:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041648.g84GmJo18728@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: Mendo list Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209041640.g84GegJ18650@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Does anyone get this? Yup. It got onto the list. Ben From bens Wed Sep 4 12:54:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84GsVM18793 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:54:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:54:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041654.g84GsV518789@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Great. We have been having lots of problems with our email, most recently that we could send to some places, but not others. Mendo was one of the ones that would bounce. On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Benjamin Smith wrote: > > In message <200209041640.g84GegJ18650@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > Does anyone get this? > > Yup. It got onto the list. > > Ben > From bens Wed Sep 4 12:55:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Gt9o18824 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:55:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:55:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041655.g84Gt9m18818@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Range Rover towing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We tow a camper that probably weighs 2000 lbs after we add all our stuff to it. On I-40 between Holbrook, AZ and Flagstaff it never drops below 65mph, but sometimes you have to manually downshift to 3rd. On secondary roads it sometimes has trouble climbing steep grades at more than 20 mph less than the speed limit. This is at altitudes above 5000 ft. The heavy trucks are going this slow too, so it is not a big deal. For your short trips I think it would do fine. For the cross country one, you may have to take some time. From bens Wed Sep 4 12:57:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Gvui18895 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:57:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:57:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041657.g84Gvuv18891@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul and all, Pam's entering her Discovery XD and I'm entering my ExMoD 109. I wanted to tow the Dormie over but it's a wreck. We're meeting my friend Vance Sprock from Cupertino Bike shop at his shop and will caravan over together. So far we have: My friend Todd 79 Triumph Spitfire My friend Jay and his 71 TR6 Vance - La Decca (spelling) Double Decker English Bus Vance's friend is bringing a AA Yellow D90 What a motley crew we'll be. Anyone going on the British Car Magazine drive to the coast on Saturday? Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Sep 4 13:06:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84H66I18951 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:06:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:06:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041706.g84H66D18947@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Scott Rachfal To: Subject: Rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Could someone tell me when is the Rally? and when do I need to sign up by. Thanks :) Scott From bens Wed Sep 4 13:12:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84HCm919017 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:12:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:12:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041712.g84HCmQ19013@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Scott, the club has a new website, it's at www.norcalrover.org and amazingly we've managed to put on it all the current club event info! You should check it out!! ;) Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Wed Sep 4 13:18:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84HIvF19089 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:18:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:18:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041718.g84HIv519085@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Got it. Charles On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:40:42 -0400 James Howard writes: > > > Does anyone get this? > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 13:19:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84HJUg19112 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:19:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:19:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041719.g84HJUr19108@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:26:43 -0400 Bob & Sue Bernard writes: > > Hi, > The Williams office and the Fairfield office are known for their > zealous > pursuit of any towing anything. Yeah - it's amazing how many people don't realize that even if you're in a car, the speed limit for towing a trailer is only 55mph: I used to see people getting pulled over like there was no tomorrow in that area...people from the Bay area heading out of town for the weekend are good targets, because they're trying not to get stuck in the forthcoming traffic jams. > CHP sets up a portable scale just past the Butte county line on 99 > heading > toward Red Bluff, > Also in Butte county they have a pickup loaded with truck technical > info > books and a special officer for setting up in several places. They > stop the > logging trucks heading downhill through Paradise at a wide spot. > It's [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Yup: trucks have brakes that must be adjusted on a regular basis BY THE DRIVER if required (there's usually a 9/16ths wrench in the cab for this purpose): the frequency of the adjustments depends on how much weight is being carried, along with the number of stops (no specific number, but the more/harder they're used, the more frequently they must be adjusted) determines when they must be adjusted. Newer tractors and trailers (1990 or so) have brakes that are said to be self-adjusting: however, a manual check is always required, because the self adjusters sometimes bind, and won't work. If there's too much of gap between the brake shoe and the drum, and the CHP discovers this, they hold you there until it's corrected...if it can't be corrected, then you stay put until it can! Usually, there's no ticket issued for this, unless either the company/driver has a long history of it, or if the adjuster is clearly defective, and must be repaired/replaced. Been there... > One truck at the place on the way to Red Bluff had too much weight > and the > truck sat there all day until someone could get there with a saw and > > shorten the logs a lot to meet requirements. This is why they have Oversize/Overweight Permits! Many people that carry large loads should have these, some don't - as evidenced by the man with the chainsaw. (you can't buy the permit after you get caught) > Don't tell me a microbus could catch the trucks!! Very few are going > 55. > Even on SR-70 and SR-99 they will go 70 mph unless there is a car > blocking > their way. When I worked for Swift, I found that all their trucks are governed at 60 MPH - you can go no faster unless you're coasting downhill. MANY large truck companies have their trucks governed at this speed, or near 70MPH (Swift, Dick Simon, Werner, Covenant Transport, U.S. Express, Knight Transportation, Central, ABF, TNT...) because this is one way that they make money: drivers still get raises, but there's a salary cap in place that controls how much money they will make in any given day - drivers work by a Federally controlled "Hours of Service" law...x hours = x miles, and the drivers' logbook shows what was done...and for the drivers of lesser intelligence, it can also show if they've been speeding! Anyway, when I worked for Swift, I was driving through Modesto one day, and there was this guy in a VW Microbus (split window model) that was only doing 45-50 or so. So, I start to pass him. Turns out, he's aware that I can only do 60 MPH, and so he raises his speed upto 61MPH to keep me behind him, and later slows back down to 45-50...this went on for a good 15 miles! Talk about road rage... When I worked for Mariak, I THOUGHT I was doing 55 (the speedo said I was), but later found out I was really doing 65 - the speedo was off!!! Mariak had it checked - but never fixed it, and the driver that took over after I quit also got two tickets in it! > A week ago I went to Sacramento in our old Datsun pickup. > (temporarily > loaning it to daughter) > I was doing 78+ on I-5 near ARCO arena and a white Camaro came up on > my > right as if to pass.(I was in the left lane) I slowed a little bit > to let > him in, but he just stayed along side, whenr I saw the CHP decal on > the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Yeah...was probably late for showing up at the Oakland scale...if you were keeping pace with the rest of the traffic, he can't really single you out (discrimination - though they often discriminate against trucks...), and so he would go for the fastest vehicle. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 13:22:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84HMpp19174 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:22:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:22:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041722.g84HMp219170@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...we've managed to put on it all the current club event info!..." And then some.... The rally is listed as 10/12 and 13, but the text says it's a single day event on Sunday. Some clarification may indeed be in order. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 4 13:48:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Hm3e19485 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:48:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:48:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041748.g84Hm2g19481@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org David, thanks for the request to update the info for the event! I posted an update just now. Should provide all the needed info at this time until Jeremy posts anything newer and or more specific. I do also know that registration forms were sent out sometime ago and many people have already sent them back in, something like 10+ people already registered. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Wed Sep 4 14:15:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84IFGd19801 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:15:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:15:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041815.g84IFGI19797@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RR Marker/Turn Signal Needed Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry for the cross-posts! Anyone have a passenger side front turn-signal/marker light assembly for a NAS Classic RR that they would be willing to part with? If so, please let me know off-list so we can make arrangements.... Thanks much, Kevan Wiser email: biophilian@aol.com From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Jjdg20611 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84Jjca20606@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: How much is too much up top? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 03:21 PM 8/28/02 -0400, you wrote: > > We'd also like a roof rack which would > > only add more weight. Any thoughts? > > I've been browsing the web site at and > > drooling as much as Jared. > >I don't know if there is a specific # to answer your question. 500 is too >much definately, but is 100? It occurred to me that there is not only the weight of the tent, but also my fat carcass as well Not when moving, of course, but is the Disco able to sustain that kind of weight all night for multiple nights over the years? >What type of vehicle is this for? >Is it running larger then stock tires? >Any suspension mods made to it? >If it is 100% stock still and a current model vehicle, you might be able to >find out from the manufacturer. 1999 [currently] stock disco II. But we're looking at lots of mods over time. (Need that body armor for the bay bridge crossing!) >I was looking at lofty designs also. >I like the overcamp, the larger version is only 115lbs and it will fit a >queen size mattress. I really like the Maggiolina models, but could certainly make do with the Columbus. The Overcamp looks like a little more work than I want to deal with when I've got cranky, er, tired kids to deal with. >I would not put fuel or water in a roof rack, weight and because if not 100% >full, then the load shifts. I was thinking of things like the stroller, sleeping bags, porta-potty (empty), folding chairs, and the like. It's also handy for the inevitable souvenirs (donald duck stuff, t-shirts, etc.) that you don't need access to until you get home (for on-road trips). >The overcamp is 115. Mount it off center and then load up and action-packer >with 115lbs and put on the other side. Personally, thet is the most weight >I would want up high. That's 230 lbs -- If that much is okay, I'd just as soon go for the large Maggiolina and not put stuff up there when the tent is mounted. btw, I'm thinking Roof rack + tent OR roof rack + gear, not all three at the same time. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Jjg620634 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84Jjfs20630@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Roof Top Tents Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 02:27 AM 8/29/02 -0400, you wrote: >We could drive till I was tired and just find an old dirt road ( ect ) and >pull off and pop the tent. We did alot of non-mendo trips cross country that >way and it was fun! We've done much the same with the 109, only it's just climb in the back and fall asleep. But the disco has air conditioning and a CD player. 8^) >On Mendo trips I tried to use it mostly for trips that >did not have a base camp or that weren't real gonzo. That's kind of what I was thinking. Easy off-highway and road trips. >The cartop tents on the link you posted looked pretty cool! I like the one >that goes up with the lever in the medium size for a small family! Well, Rachel already has the second one planned and we usually take our niece Cassie with us, so we were looking at the large size. The weight difference between the Maggiolino (150/155lbs) and the Columbus (130lbs) for the same sq. footage has me leaning towards the Columbus. I definitely like the Maggiolino better, though. (Refresher, since I'm way behind on e-mail, these tents can be seen at .) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84JjhX20643 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84Jjh620638@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: another announcement: future LR driver Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 02:36 PM 9/2/02 -0400, you wrote: >Another for anybody that cares: Born, August 31, 2002 at 11:44pm, Sten >Thomas Joyner. Congratulations! >Third and final in a series! Being four months ahead of you, what is continually puzzling me is why would anyone ever have a second one? (Let alone three!) 8^) (For those who have never had a kid, imagine climbing over the continental divide, *carrying* your land rover, 8 times a day, while screaming, yelling kids stand on the sidelines throwing feces and vomit at you, every day for the next year. Having a kid is a lot more work.) >Two life altering achievements in one week, I'm pooped! With three kids, are you ever anything else? 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84JjhD20650 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84Jjho20646@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 04:39 AM 8/31/02 -0400, you wrote: >goal was to have the work he did on my rigs while on bail help pay for his >bills and defense ( which it did help !!! )... If he was acquitted of whatever it was, then that's that... but more importantly, does he work on Series vehicles? (It seems there is a major shortage of series mechanics hereabouts.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Jjeg20619 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84JjdD20614@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: How much is too much up top? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 03:33 PM 8/28/02 -0400, you wrote: >well you remember the Light Brigade had the roof-top tent >for ages. it is fine except for extreme rock >crawling....which you shouldn't do in a disco anyway as >they are kinda tippy compared to a rangie or defender in my >opinion.. Good point! I don't expect to be doing super-gonzo stuff, but I would like to do some fairly gonzo runs. Of course, I could also take the tent off and leave it in camp, but that kinda defeats the purpose. More likely, I'd leave the rooftop tent at home for more gonzo stuff. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 15:45:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Jjeb20626 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:45:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209041945.g84Jje320622@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Roof Top Tents Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 01:27 AM 8/29/02 -0400, you wrote: >A roof-top tent would be great if you were camping some place where wild >animals might tear in to a tent on the ground, but it sure is a lot easier >to get out and take a leak at 3:00 am when you are on the ground... Hmmm... Good point! >I just replaced my 10 year old two person tent with a nice three person tent >that I bought on sale at the North Face Outlet for $99. It will give me a The main attraction of these tents is the ease of set-up. I have a clip-flashlight clone that's one of the easiest to set up and it's still almost always more trouble than it's worth. Also, these tents are fairly easy to remove, so I could always leave it home for more serious runs. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 4 16:20:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84KK2t21050 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:20:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:20:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042020.g84KK1S21046@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Roof Top Tents Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, A number of years ago Bruce's Spot got its top a little torn by a bear in the Paradise camp. Bob B At 12:45 PM 9/4/2002, Roger wrote: >At 01:27 AM 8/29/02 -0400, you wrote: > >A roof-top tent would be great if you were camping some place where wild > >animals might tear in to a tent on the ground, but it sure is a lot easier > >to get out and take a leak at 3:00 am when you are on the ground... > >Hmmm... Good point! From bens Wed Sep 4 16:26:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84KQcS21110 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:26:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:26:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042026.g84KQcu21106@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New 4.6 HSE Owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org congrats kevin - are u driving the newer rangie to PA meet, i always wanted a 4.6 for the daily commute fil >From: "Kevin Kelly" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "Mendo List" >Subject: New 4.6 HSE Owner >Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:41:19 -0400 > >After 6 months of car shopping I bought a new car tonight... > >In the last few months I've made offers on many cars including a D90, an [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Wed Sep 4 16:57:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84Kv1F21355 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:57:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:57:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042057.g84Kv1D21351@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Peter..... > > Did you do what I think you did to your Land Rover????? (I must have > missed something here...) > > What gearbox/transfer case did you use? > > Charles Aloha Charles. In March I swapped out the tired 2.25l. I am now running a GMC 6.2l diesel, GM SM465 trans, Dana 18 t-case, Saturn overdrive,Tom Wood drive shafts, and a Salisbury rear end in my 88. Everything got rebuilt. The tcase got a 3.15:1 lowrange kit and the axles now have 3.54s. Tranny has a 6.53:1 first gear so I have a rover that will idle over just about anything and can drive 65mph all day long while getting 25mpg. It is a very sweet machine. Notice I say machine, won't 'offend' anyone by calling it a Rover :-) All of this was done as a way of working out the details for my real desire.... a coiled 109 5 door. 6.5l twin turbo, 700r4, atlas2 tcase, Sals front and rear. The 109 will end up being SWMBOs daily driver and our tow rig. Figure it will take about 4 years to build hahahaha Pete ps. I am planning on New Years in the Mojave. From bens Wed Sep 4 17:18:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84LIex21595 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:18:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:18:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042118.g84LIef21591@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've GOT to see that rig!!!!! Will definately make it to Mojave this time round. Charles - diesel junkie P.S. How 'bout them Dodgers?... On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:57:01 -0400 "Peter Hope" writes: > > > Peter..... > > > > Did you do what I think you did to your Land Rover????? (I must > have > > missed something here...) > > > > What gearbox/transfer case did you use? > > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 17:23:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84LN6Z21629 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:23:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:23:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042123.g84LN6P21625@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "charles chuan-chen phu" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Land Rover "dealer" in Half Moon Bay? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, I have the website at home. I'll post it for you when I get home. Charles Phu >From: Jason Pipes >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Land Rover "dealer" in Half Moon Bay? >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:28:29 -0400 > >Does anyone recall the url of the place that sells various older and >Euro-spec Land Rovers out of Half Moon Bay? I know it's been posted here a >few times but I can't seem to find reference to it right now at all. [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Wed Sep 4 17:25:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84LPtk21665 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:25:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:25:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042125.g84LPsH21661@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Rangie for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Listers, a friend of mine decided that he must move back to the east coast, but needs money more than he needs his Rangie, and so it is for sale. 1989 Rangie, runs good, factory gold paint in good shape. (cosmetically, this truck is in very nice condition) chrome(I think) 3-spoke alloys killer sound system. I know that it: has a dead sunroof needs a CV joint up front - possibly a diff (transfer case works fine) needs a seat switch. That's pretty much all that I personally know about the truck, except that he's asking something like $3500 for it. (or therabouts) The name is Chris, and his number is (310)-562-2685. Janet and I are kinda looking for a beater - think we found one but not sure, but this one is too nice overall...not many gold Rangies around. (I'll throw it past her anyway) Usual disclaimers apply. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 4 17:30:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84LUFK21695 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:30:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:30:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042130.g84LUFP21691@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >I am now running a GMC 6.2l diesel, GM SM465 trans, Dana 18 t-case, Saturn overdrive How much hacking of the frame and bulkhead were required? RW -- "Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying,'Dude, that was awesome!" From bens Wed Sep 4 18:27:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84MRaa22021 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:27:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:27:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042227.g84MRZQ22017@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jessopp To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Look,my beautiful girl friend Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 3 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ audio/x-wav; ] [ application/octet-stream; ] [ 1796 lines filtered. ] --U9uOU796pul5ng249M40c79A From bens Wed Sep 4 18:28:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84MSW622043 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:28:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:28:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042228.g84MSV822039@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Sean Murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > If he was acquitted of whatever it was, then that's that... but more > importantly, does he work on Series vehicles? Yup! I'll let him know, I think he's going to visit his folks next week for up to a month, then be back in the bay area TomW > > (It seems there is a major shortage of series mechanics hereabouts.) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > > Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad > roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." > Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 4 18:42:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g84MgKu22126 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:42:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:42:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209042242.g84MgJ822122@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Spencer Knight" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #839 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Done? What you mean, "Done"? No, I've had some busy weekends of late, moving my girlfriend, my ex-wife moved, with my 5 year old son, to Connecticut (?!? What the @*?! happened!?), so last weekend I flew to CT to see him, this weekend I have to clear out the garage of the house in Berkeley. If I had been able to work on the truck consistently for the past few weeks I would most likely be done, we're very, very close. Engine still isn't in the truck, but all of the parts are moved, and most of it is back together, I just need to put it into the vehicle, and then hook up a variety of parts, but none of that was really very complicated, so I wouldn't anticipate it taking too long. By the by, hi Blair. Saw you the other day exiting into the Oakland area where I think you work? Regards, Spencer From bens Wed Sep 4 20:16:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g850Gna22688 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:16:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:16:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209050016.g850Gmd22684@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've seen one of the new Camaros which was being used by the CHP "bodyguard" watching over my assemblyman while we voters questioned him during his recent "sidewalk office hours". FWIW he didn't know what Boxer's Wilderness Bill was, supported more state regulations on logging and roads, and co-authored the recent bill to restrict SUV's. Represents Palo Alto nicely I'm sure... Bruce Charles R Irvin wrote: > I was talking to a friends' fiance' a few weeks ago (he's a CHP > sargeant), and I had asked him if the new Camaros were recalled - as I > had only seen one on the roads. He said that most of them are being used > as "public service vehicles" (ie: display/show cars!), ... which means, > they're > using them NOT for catching speeding cars (what they were SUPPOSED to be > used for), From bens Wed Sep 4 21:40:59 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g851ex523069 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:40:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:40:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209050140.g851exd23065@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >I am now running a GMC 6.2l diesel, GM SM465 trans, Dana 18 t-case, Saturn > overdrive > > How much hacking of the frame and bulkhead were required? > > RW Aloha Russ. The dana 18 is shorter (front output to rear output) then the Rover t-case. The GMC 6.2 block is wider then a GM small block. If you modify the right hand side foot weel so its the same width as the left hand side, and in the process widen the center section, then the block will fit in the space between the footwell. End up with about 1" between head and footwell at each side. With a stock length rear drive shaft, the back of the block is about 2" from the face of the firewell. A salisbury rear end has a more forward drive flange then stock. Plus with the heads between the footwells, the rear most injector on each side could not be removed. So I placed my engine so that the rear edge of the head was 1" forward of the leading edge of the footwells. The deep part of the oilpan is still behinf the front axle. My homemade frame has a front crossmember flush with the front rails, part of the bumper/winch mount. The stock front crossmember was only used for the steering relay and radiator support. Went to power steering, so out came the crossmember. I am using a Griffin dual core aluminum racing radiator, in a homemade mount. An electric 18" cooling fan, oil cooler, and power stearing fluid cooler round out the front end. I removed a Series IIa front panel from the radiator support and have modified it some and mounted flush with the front of the wings. I have III style wings. Regular lights in the wings, 150watt offroad lights in the center panel. With the engine moved forward and the salisbury installed, the Dana 18 ended up being just about perfectly centered between axle flanges. I have a 27" rear shaft and 26" front shaft (stock is 21 and 24). They are from Woodys Drive Shafts. Long slip joint, double carodan CVs. I used a Novak Adapters SM465 to Dana 18. It's a new main shaft for the tranny and a 1" plate, overall it's only 13". The tranny stick, OD lever, and dual sticks from the tcase are just about in the stock location. But I made a new tranny cover. Advanced Adapters told me the Overdrive can easily handle the 300lbs torque the engine produces. I used 3 leaf parabolics on the front to handle all the extra weight. The tranny and tcase are all iron, plus a bigblock v-8. Lotsa weight. I am still looking for a defender bonnet, so have a 7" gap between my front panel and the leading edge of the hood. Hardest part of the swap was the exhaust. I am running dual 3" tubes with a flowmaster on each. I ran it so that it is as much between the frame rails as possible. Tail pipe comes out behind the rear wheels. The truck is a bit louder then the 4cyl was. But I had to wear ear plugs when she was stock while driving on the highway anyway. It's not as loud as an Army CUCV or HMMWV. Have not had her back on the highway since doing the exhaust and gear change. She will be running about 4-500rpms slower at highway speed so that will make a big difference. So 1. New front crossmember. 2. power steering. 3. Defender bonnet and grill 4. Tranny cover. Thats about it. Sometime in the next couple years I will get my web site updated. Took close to 200 photos of all the work done. Pete From bens Wed Sep 4 21:44:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g851iPd23106 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:44:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:44:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209050144.g851iPW23102@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ok, I see people responding to my posts so they are obvoiusly making it through. But I have not seen any of my own. Any ideas? Thanks Pete From bens Wed Sep 4 22:00:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g85201J23264 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:00:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:00:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209050200.g85200m23259@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Re: New 4.6 HSE Owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin Kelly wrote: "Any tips on things to do to a new late model Land Rover (with air bags multiple coils and tons of other electronic stuff)..." Sell it in <1.5 yrs. :) Honestly I did spend about 5 minutes trying to restrain myself . More seriously, you might want to consider a coil spring conversion Jeremy From bens Thu Sep 5 03:43:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g857htH26369 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:43:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:43:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209050743.g857htg26365@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "charles chuan-chen phu" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Land rover dealer in Half Moon Bay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, Sorry I came back home pretty late. Here it is. http://www.expeditionsoverland.com/index.htm I talked to the guy once.(sorry forgot his name). My understanding is the vehicles he lists in the website might not be in on the lot yet. I think it is upon request, he'll import the vehicle in from UK or other countries if you purchase it, something like that. But, not completely sure, though. Charles Phu _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Thu Sep 5 12:26:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g85GQdp29497 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:26:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:26:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209051626.g85GQdu29493@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Aloha Rover update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter, That sounds about like my "Series - 110" with a GM 6.5L diesel. I used an NV-4500 tranny and stock LT-230. 3.54 axles and 1.2:1 high range. High range would be better if 1.003:1 from an older Rangie. >From your description the 6.2-6.5L diesel fits a little better in a Defender engine bay than a Series (although with your breakfast moved forward you almost have a coiler engine bay). I have very good clearance all around the engine. My truck's main body is Series IIa 109 5-door. I replaced the rear quarter panels (fenders) with Defender parts and riveted on with solid rivets. Entire front is Defender. Windscreen is Series IIa. Mine looks quite similar to a Stage 1 Series III 109 (the first V8). I kept the manual 1985 steering box that came with the rolling chassis. I used a single 3.5" exhaust system that followed the same route as the stock 2.5L diesel exhaust. Single silencer (large one from a medium duty truck) with a Forest Service approved spark arrester. You get a little better fuel mileage if you're getting 25 mpg unless you are calculating with UK-Imperial gallons ;-) I get about 17-18 around town (little town) and 21-23 mpg on highway. Usually cruise just above 65 mph speed limit. The 6.5-6.2L diesel engine is just perfect for a LR 109-110 IMO. cheers, clarke At 09:40 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >> >I am now running a GMC 6.2l diesel, GM SM465 trans, Dana 18 t-case, >Saturn >> overdrive >> >> How much hacking of the frame and bulkhead were required? >> >> RW > [ 59 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 5 14:15:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g85IFGp30603 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:15:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:15:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209051815.g85IFGs30599@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Congrats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks all for congratulation wishes on my big last week. When I can figure out which end is up (in more ways than one!). I'll become a little more participatory again. Tom 88 RR Durango From bens Thu Sep 5 18:52:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g85Mqbx32674 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:52:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:52:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209052252.g85Mqb632670@minbar.fourfold.org> From: drjoybrowne To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: The Garden of Eden Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 3 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ audio/x-midi; ] [ application/octet-stream; ] [ 1992 lines filtered. ] --U7v60AZn64h9C4h2400 From bens Thu Sep 5 19:42:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g85Nghu00548 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:42:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:42:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209052342.g85Nggv00544@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Michael Samuels" To: Subject: hello all Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI everybody, haven't been on list for a while, well, I am many places now, I am in Florida with a 109 school bus, its having reverse problems, I sent my rr 89 to Rudy in la and drove it to the bear dance in the mountains near pine mountain, it ran hot hot but did not overheat, Rudy sold his 101 vampire as most of you know, he's happy with the rangie, looks less like a war, our 88s in Bolinas are still healthy with new disco steel wheels and tires, running great. I go to Greece in the summer, live on an island, need a Land Rover there, but in Greece who knows, there are some defenders, a few old series cars, parts hard on the island tinos, but I will find one, maybe a diesel or ship one?? Best to all, Michael Samuels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #840 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, September 5 2002 Volume 02 : Number 840 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:25:54 -0400 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Rangie for sale [ 48 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Saturn > overdrive > > How much hacking of the frame and bulkhead were required? > > RW > > - -- > "Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best > friend is the one sitting next to you saying,'Dude, that was awesome!" [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] for > up to a month, then be back in the bay area > > TomW > > > > > (It seems there is a major shortage of series mechanics hereabouts.) > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] to > see him, this weekend I have to clear out the garage of the house in > Berkeley. If I had been able to work on the truck consistently for the past > few weeks I would most likely be done, we're very, very close. Engine still > isn't in the truck, but all of the parts are moved, and most of it is back > together, I just need to put it into the vehicle, and then hook up a variety > of parts, but none of that was really very complicated, so I wouldn't > anticipate it taking too long. > > By the by, hi Blair. Saw you the other day exiting into the Oakland area > where I think you work? > > Regards, > > Spencer [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] "bodyguard" > watching over my assemblyman while we voters questioned him during his recent > "sidewalk office hours". > > FWIW he didn't know what Boxer's Wilderness Bill was, supported more state > regulations on logging and roads, and co-authored the recent bill to restrict > SUV's. Represents Palo Alto nicely I'm sure... > > Bruce > > Charles R Irvin wrote: > > > I was talking to a friends' fiance' a few weeks ago (he's a CHP > > sargeant), and I had asked him if the new Camaros were recalled - as I > > had only seen one on the roads. He said that most of them are being used [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] t-case. > The GMC 6.2 block is wider then a GM small block. If you modify the right > hand side foot weel so its the same width as the left hand side, and in the > process widen the center section, then the block will fit in the space > between the footwell. End up with about 1" between head and footwell at > each side. With a stock length rear drive shaft, the back of the block is > about 2" from the face of the firewell. > A salisbury rear end has a more forward drive flange then stock. Plus with > the heads between the footwells, the rear most injector on each side could > not be removed. > > So I placed my engine so that the rear edge of the head was 1" forward of > the leading edge of the footwells. The deep part of the oilpan is still > behinf the front axle. > My homemade frame has a front crossmember flush with the front rails, part > of the bumper/winch mount. The stock front crossmember was only used for > the steering relay and radiator support. [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] III > style wings. Regular lights in the wings, 150watt offroad lights in the > center panel. > With the engine moved forward and the salisbury installed, the Dana 18 ended > up being just about perfectly centered between axle flanges. I have a 27" > rear shaft and 26" front shaft (stock is 21 and 24). They are from Woodys > Drive Shafts. Long slip joint, double carodan CVs. > I used a Novak Adapters SM465 to Dana 18. It's a new main shaft for the > tranny and a 1" plate, overall it's only 13". > The tranny stick, OD lever, and dual sticks from the tcase are just about in > the stock location. But I made a new tranny cover. > Advanced Adapters told me the Overdrive can easily handle the 300lbs torque > the engine produces. > I used 3 leaf parabolics on the front to handle all the extra weight. The > tranny and tcase are all iron, plus a bigblock v-8. Lotsa weight. > I am still looking for a defender bonnet, so have a 7" gap between my front > panel and the leading edge of the hood. > Hardest part of the swap was the exhaust. I am running dual 3" tubes with a > flowmaster on each. I ran it so that it is as much between the frame rails > as possible. Tail pipe comes out behind the rear wheels. > The truck is a bit louder then the 4cyl was. But I had to wear ear plugs > when she was stock while driving on the highway anyway. It's not as loud as > an Army CUCV or HMMWV. Have not had her back on the highway since doing the > exhaust and gear change. She will be running about 4-500rpms slower at > highway speed so that will make a big difference. > > So > 1. New front crossmember. > 2. power steering. > 3. Defender bonnet and grill > 4. Tranny cover. > [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] through. > But I have not seen any of my own. > Any ideas? > Thanks > Pete > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:00:00 -0400 > From: Jeremy Bartlett [ 29 additional quoted lines pruned. ] it > is upon request, he'll import the vehicle in from UK or other countries if > you purchase it, something like that. But, not completely sure, though. > > Charles Phu > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] IIa. > Mine looks quite similar to a Stage 1 Series III 109 (the first V8). > > I kept the manual 1985 steering box that came with the rolling chassis. > > I used a single 3.5" exhaust system that followed the same route as the > stock 2.5L diesel exhaust. Single silencer (large one from a medium duty > truck) with a Forest Service approved spark arrester. > > You get a little better fuel mileage if you're getting 25 mpg unless you [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] town > (little town) and 21-23 mpg on highway. Usually cruise just above 65 mph > speed limit. > > The 6.5-6.2L diesel engine is just perfect for a LR 109-110 IMO. > > cheers, > clarke > > [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] figure > out which end is up (in more ways than one!). I'll become a little more > participatory again. > > Tom > 88 RR > > Durango > > ------------------------------ [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 5 22:37:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g862bih01381 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:37:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:37:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209060237.g862biU01377@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Land Rover Toys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] Hi all: I know we all have enough Land Rover toys, but I found an interesting item on ebay: Item # 1764548717, Hand made Landrover models from recycled tin. The models currently are of Defenders. I contacted the seller and he said that custom models can be made if a brochure or photos showing the front, back, sides, interior, etc., are provided. I have not ordered from the fellow and am still waiting to find out about shipping costs, so caveat emptor. But the vignette in the ebay listing makes for interesting reading. Karen Sindir '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros '95 Disco EFE From bens Thu Sep 5 23:45:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g863j8p01626 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:45:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:45:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209060345.g863j8o01622@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: CHP Camaros Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org FWIW I recently saw one escorting a CHP pickup (you know the ones they use for truck inspection).... gotta figure that guy was going to go real fast : ) Jeremy From bens Fri Sep 6 00:10:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g864AcS02393 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:10:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:10:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209060410.g864AbE02389@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: "Mendo Recce Mailing List" Subject: Granny's Change of Address Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org With some regret, I will be abandoning the e-mail address I have used for about eight years and using my new broadband address of mapool@adelphia.net My old gpool@pacific.net address will be good until the end of the month, when my account at Pacific Internet will expire. Cheers, Granville "Granny" Pool Redwood Valley, CA '92 RR "Ziggy" '73 SIII 88 "the Snark" From bens Fri Sep 6 05:17:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g869HQ804476 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 05:17:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 05:17:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209060917.g869HQ904472@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: mutual of omaha, sept 17 on animal planet Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A remake/new program of mutual of omaha will be on the animal planet ( ch 282 dtv ) will air on sept 17th, hopefully w/ LR's like the original! TomW From bens Fri Sep 6 09:15:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86DF9I05618 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:15:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:15:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061315.g86DF9505614@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Granny's Change of Address Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow, you get a sex change with the email address change. What a bargain:) -Rob From bens Fri Sep 6 10:25:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86EPuq06109 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:25:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:25:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061425.g86EPuw06105@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mojave trip - US Hwy 50 book in Reno Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, I was going to ask you about this address - but just noticed that I did save the email: was in Reno last weekend but couldn't find the place. (thought it was E. 4th...duh) I'll stop by there this next trip and have a looksee. Charles On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:07:52 -0400 Jason Pipes writes: > > There is a book store in downtown Reno (the only book store I've > ever seen > in Reno, in fact) that sells a good number of Nevada history and > local > interest books, including the Hwy 50 guidebook. The name of the > store is > Sundance Booksstore, it's # is 775-786-1188 and they are located at > 1155 W [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Fri Sep 6 11:11:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86FBHr06371 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:11:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:11:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061511.g86FBH606367@minbar.fourfold.org> From: androbus To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sos! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 3 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ audio/x-wav; ] [ application/octet-stream; ] [ 1692 lines filtered. ] --E3cz4212k337V98630TM From bens Fri Sep 6 11:40:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86FeHI06556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:40:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:40:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061540.g86FeHG06552@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sos! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Paul, Clear your throat and say it again. Bob B At 08:11 AM 9/6/2002, Paul Androbus said: > [ 3 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ audio/x-wav; ] > [ application/octet-stream; ] > [ 1692 lines filtered. ] >--E3cz4212k337V98630TM From bens Fri Sep 6 12:11:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86GBKT06721 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:11:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:11:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061611.g86GBK406717@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment stripper is still working though! ;-) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It's not me!!!!! I logged in to see the message just now! No worries about getting any viri from me as I am fully protected, even have a firewall up.....but...looks like that malicous person who has been sending things into teh list is now starting to try stealing our addresses? it said three attachments removed. I'm guessing they are not something any of want to have placed on our systems!!! ;-0 Ben? can you do a trace on this at all and see who it is? not tht it will do any good! ;-( Paul --- Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hey Paul, > Clear your throat and say it again. > > Bob B > > > At 08:11 AM 9/6/2002, Paul Androbus said: > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 6 12:27:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86GRXD06785 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:27:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:27:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061627.g86GRXL06781@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Spencer Knight" To: Subject: Gaskets Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Group, I think maybe I asked before, but I missed a few, so missed any reply. Can somebody tell me where to get gaskets for my truck? Should I just go with British Pacific or should I try somebody else? Thanks, Spencer From bens Fri Sep 6 13:18:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86HIee06986 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:18:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:18:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061718.g86HIdE06982@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: PALO ALTO BRITISH Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Who is going? I'm planning on it. Not sure which car will come though. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Fri Sep 6 14:28:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86ISGS07312 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:28:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:28:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061828.g86ISGH07308@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Paul, It didn't look like a viruuiis. Just an old message from when you used the Androbus address. It was completely truncated by Mendo, so it said nothing. Strange thing but every now and then old stuff shows up and not just on Mendo. Bob B At 09:11 AM 9/6/2002, you wrote: >It's not me!!!!! >I logged in to see the message just now! > >No worries about getting any viri from me as I am fully >protected, even have a firewall up.....but...looks like >that malicous person who has been sending things into teh >list is now starting to try stealing our addresses? >it said three attachments removed. I'm guessing they are >not something any of want to have placed on our systems!!! [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 6 14:42:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86IgjP07398 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:42:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:42:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061842.g86Igiw07394@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi Paul, > It didn't look like a viruuiis. Just an old message from > when you used the > Androbus address. When I used it? I still do! ;-) and the other two Paarch@ jps.net and onemain.com too...but androbus is my main address...sorta..there are many others but anyway.. ;-) > It was completely truncated by Mendo, so it said nothing. > Strange thing but every now and then old stuff shows up > and not just on Mendo. well it did mention three attachments...and I only send attachments witha note in the message about them. Wierd.. Paul > At 09:11 AM 9/6/2002, you wrote: > > >It's not me!!!!! > >I logged in to see the message just now! > > > >No worries about getting any viri from me as I am fully > >protected, even have a firewall up.....but...looks like > >that malicous person who has been sending things into > teh [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 6 16:31:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86KVwF07984 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:31:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:31:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062031.g86KVvZ07980@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...Sounds like a ghost in the machine... I got the posts, but no attachments. Charles On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:42:44 -0400 Paul Archibald writes: > > Strange thing but every now and then old stuff shows up > > and not just on Mendo. > well it did mention three attachments...and I only send > attachments witha note in the message about them. > > Wierd.. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Fri Sep 6 16:32:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86KWrj07999 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:32:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:32:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062032.g86KWrW07995@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment stripper is still working though! ;-) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've got a few weird E-mails with attachments from Daniel O. I think he has a virus and is spaming everyone in his address book. TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Sos! NOT ME!!!!!!!! BEN????? looks like the attachment stripper is still working though! ;-) > > It's not me!!!!! > I logged in to see the message just now! > > No worries about getting any viri from me as I am fully > protected, even have a firewall up.....but...looks like > that malicous person who has been sending things into teh > list is now starting to try stealing our addresses? > it said three attachments removed. I'm guessing they are [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 6 16:44:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86KiIM08067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:44:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:44:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062044.g86KiIP08063@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Land Rover Toys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 38 lines filtered. ] Karen, Eric Cope has a beautiful Series model, also from Africa that, that Ken and Barbie use for off-roading and expedition. His is about 3 times the one on ebay. Mehdi From bens Fri Sep 6 17:05:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86L5RS08190 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:05:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:05:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062105.g86L5R008186@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: mia culpa Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 5 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Multipart/Alternative; ] [ Text/Plain; ] [ Text/HTML; ] [ image/gif ] [ Image/jpeg ] [ 228 lines filtered. ] --------------Boundary-00=_XVB1QL80000000000000 From bens Fri Sep 6 17:14:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86LEXg08225 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:14:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:14:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062114.g86LEXo08221@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: mia culpa, II Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" I've gotten a few folks indicating that they've received e-mails I = didn't send..so I did a virus check, and I think I've located it..sorry = to those who were affected. Please let me know if it continues...the problem is that the virus send = the stuff out without my knowledge... From bens Fri Sep 6 17:16:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86LGiZ08256 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:16:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:16:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062116.g86LGiC08252@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: Mendo Subject: Status of The Lite Brigade...... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not remembering if the e-mail about this week=ends activities ever showed up on mendo......so it id didn't I'll give a brief synopsis. On the way up thirsday I called Tom about a funnt buzzing noise in the general ara of teh gear shifter....but it ran fine. While up in Santa Rosa and The Sea Ranch things were fine except for the problem of the tranny not shifting out of first until the box heated up. (I had checked the fluid and it was fine, this has been happening on/off for two weeks...)I think it's time for a new filter and fluid change.. Well Monday morning I was heading back home from THe coast, planning on taking some side roads and exploring looking for dirt trails...I had just pulled from Anappolis road onto Stewarts Point/Skaggs Springs road when i heard a ssppt ssppt sound from the front left...I checked th steering thinking I had a flat? Nope! looked at the front tire and it was fine.....but...suddenly I got a facefull of HOT!!! tranny fluid!!! I pulled over as soona as I found a pull-out and glanced in the fender well..was sprayed with much more tranny oil as I found the leaking tranny cooler to radiator pipe had rubbed against the btracket ont eh frame for the steering linkage...Immediately pulled the key and watched the rest of teh fluid pour out. I started the engine and tried to put back in gear, but with no fluid nothing happened....so Iwas dead in the water... ....in what was a really poor cell phone area..barely got through to AAA and they said they'd be there in 35 minutes(It's 45 to an hour to town, so i wasn't worrind in that timeframe...) I pulled out a Henry David Thoreau book and sat down on a rock to wait......(this was at two thirty...) a few hours later I still hadn't heard or seen anything from AAA, so called again..they said the truck as on it's way..I checked in with my folks who ha been ahead of me and were waiting....my mother told mne my dad had left to go look for me....and when he showed up in a while teh truck hadn't shown up yet.......anyway after many calls to AAA andmany hours of waiting.....they finally sent out a truck to pick me up after midnight! ;-0 ...but he ha to pick up a car first! I was livid(my dad too as he had kept calling and was told they were almost there for seven hours after I had ben waiting for three already before my phone batteries died and he showed up...by the time they finally picked me up, dropped off the other car, picked up a second one behind me, dropped it off and finally took me to my folks house in Santa Rosa, it was 3:00 in the morning, a full twelve/thirteen hours after the innitial call to AAA!!! As the truck drove up teh drive, he managed to bash teh disco against a large branch of the tree in the front yard breaking the 4" branck off with my snorkel/rack/windshield...and broke my cb antennae off too...I was too tired to even care. I crawled into bed and fell asleep for a few hours before calling back for the next 100 mile tow to get home tuesday afternoon...what an adventure! Today I finnaly called LR San Jose to find the pipe/hoe is only $64.95 and was in stock!!! oh Joy! Guess where I am heading in Elgie now! will also get a enew tranny seal and than need to buy a gallon of tranny fluid and cross fingets that the tranny was not damaged too much by losing all it's fluid!! Wish me luck, and if anyone is bores they can come over to watch/laugh at me while drinking a beer tonight as I get it all back together. If I can't manage the time to get a friends spare engine in my '63 midget by sat midnight, I will be taking one of the rovers to Shallow Alto after all. Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 6 19:41:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86Nfps08968 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062341.g86Nfpb08962@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "David Ojeh" To: davojeh21@mail.com Subject: ASSISTANCE Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org #ASSISTANCE FROM: COL.DAVID OJEH(RTD) DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO. SEEKING FOR IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. It is my pleasure to request your assistance on this business proposal which if pursued to its conclusion, will be of immense benefit to both of us. This request may seem strange but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. My name is COL. DAVID OJEH of the Democratic Republic of Congo and one of the close aides to the former President of the Democratic Republic of Congo LAURENT KABILA of blessed memory, may his soul rest in peace. Due to the military campaign of LAURENT KABILA to force out the rebels in my country, I was instructed by Late President Kabila to go abroad to purchase arms and ammunition worth of Twenty Four Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only (US$24,500,000.00) to fight the rebel group. But when President Kabila was killed in a bloody shootout by one of his aide a day before I was schedule to travel out of Congo, I immediately decided to divert the fund into a private security company here in Congo for safe keeping.The security of the said amount is presently being threatened here following the unwanranted arrest and seizure of properties of Col. Rasheidi Karesava (The aide that shot Laurent Kabila) tribesmen ,where I am from,by the new President of the Democratic Republic of Congo the son of late President Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila. In view of this,I need a reliable and rustworthy foreign partner who can assist me to move this money out of my country as the beneficiary. I have sufficient ''contacts'' to move the fund under Diplomatic cover to a security company in the Nietherlands in your name, this is to ensure that the diplomatic baggage is marked ''confidential''and it will not pass through normal custom/airport screening and clearance. My inability to move this money out of Congo all this while lies on my lack of trust ! ! on our supposed good friends (western countries) who have suddenly became hostile to those of us who worked with the late President Laurent Kabila, since hisson took office. Though we have neither seen nor met each other, I know we will be able to establish all the trust that we need to ensure that the money will be safe with you. Thus, if you are willing to assist me to move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address with your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage)for assisting me. I will highly appreciate it if my request is given utmost priority and consideration. Best Regards, COL.DAVID OJEH (RTD) -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From bens Fri Sep 6 19:41:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86Nfnu08957 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062341.g86Nfnl08948@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "David Ojeh" To: davojeh21@mail.com Subject: ASSISTANCE Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org #ASSISTANCE FROM: COL.DAVID OJEH(RTD) DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO. SEEKING FOR IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. It is my pleasure to request your assistance on this business proposal which if pursued to its conclusion, will be of immense benefit to both of us. This request may seem strange but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. My name is COL. DAVID OJEH of the Democratic Republic of Congo and one of the close aides to the former President of the Democratic Republic of Congo LAURENT KABILA of blessed memory, may his soul rest in peace. Due to the military campaign of LAURENT KABILA to force out the rebels in my country, I was instructed by Late President Kabila to go abroad to purchase arms and ammunition worth of Twenty Four Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only (US$24,500,000.00) to fight the rebel group. But when President Kabila was killed in a bloody shootout by one of his aide a day before I was schedule to travel out of Congo, I immediately decided to divert the fund into a private security company here in Congo for safe keeping.The security of the said amount is presently being threatened here following the unwanranted arrest and seizure of properties of Col. Rasheidi Karesava (The aide that shot Laurent Kabila) tribesmen ,where I am from,by the new President of the Democratic Republic of Congo the son of late President Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila. In view of this,I need a reliable and rustworthy foreign partner who can assist me to move this money out of my country as the beneficiary. I have sufficient ''contacts'' to move the fund under Diplomatic cover to a security company in the Nietherlands in your name, this is to ensure that the diplomatic baggage is marked ''confidential''and it will not pass through normal custom/airport screening and clearance. My inability to move this money out of Congo all this while lies on my lack of trust ! ! on our supposed good friends (western countries) who have suddenly became hostile to those of us who worked with the late President Laurent Kabila, since hisson took office. Though we have neither seen nor met each other, I know we will be able to establish all the trust that we need to ensure that the money will be safe with you. Thus, if you are willing to assist me to move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address with your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage)for assisting me. I will highly appreciate it if my request is given utmost priority and consideration. Best Regards, COL.DAVID OJEH (RTD) -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From bens Fri Sep 6 19:41:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86Nfnf08956 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:41:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062341.g86Nfng08949@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "David Ojeh" To: davojeh21@mail.com Subject: ASSISTANCE Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org #ASSISTANCE FROM: COL.DAVID OJEH(RTD) DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO. SEEKING FOR IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. It is my pleasure to request your assistance on this business proposal which if pursued to its conclusion, will be of immense benefit to both of us. This request may seem strange but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. My name is COL. DAVID OJEH of the Democratic Republic of Congo and one of the close aides to the former President of the Democratic Republic of Congo LAURENT KABILA of blessed memory, may his soul rest in peace. Due to the military campaign of LAURENT KABILA to force out the rebels in my country, I was instructed by Late President Kabila to go abroad to purchase arms and ammunition worth of Twenty Four Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only (US$24,500,000.00) to fight the rebel group. But when President Kabila was killed in a bloody shootout by one of his aide a day before I was schedule to travel out of Congo, I immediately decided to divert the fund into a private security company here in Congo for safe keeping.The security of the said amount is presently being threatened here following the unwanranted arrest and seizure of properties of Col. Rasheidi Karesava (The aide that shot Laurent Kabila) tribesmen ,where I am from,by the new President of the Democratic Republic of Congo the son of late President Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila. In view of this,I need a reliable and rustworthy foreign partner who can assist me to move this money out of my country as the beneficiary. I have sufficient ''contacts'' to move the fund under Diplomatic cover to a security company in the Nietherlands in your name, this is to ensure that the diplomatic baggage is marked ''confidential''and it will not pass through normal custom/airport screening and clearance. My inability to move this money out of Congo all this while lies on my lack of trust ! ! on our supposed good friends (western countries) who have suddenly became hostile to those of us who worked with the late President Laurent Kabila, since hisson took office. Though we have neither seen nor met each other, I know we will be able to establish all the trust that we need to ensure that the money will be safe with you. Thus, if you are willing to assist me to move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address with your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage)for assisting me. I will highly appreciate it if my request is given utmost priority and consideration. Best Regards, COL.DAVID OJEH (RTD) -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From bens Fri Sep 6 19:43:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g86NhU108996 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:43:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:43:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209062343.g86NhTe08992@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "David Ojeh" To: davojeh21@mail.com Subject: ASSISTANCE Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org #ASSISTANCE FROM: COL.DAVID OJEH(RTD) DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO. SEEKING FOR IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. It is my pleasure to request your assistance on this business proposal which if pursued to its conclusion, will be of immense benefit to both of us. This request may seem strange but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. My name is COL. DAVID OJEH of the Democratic Republic of Congo and one of the close aides to the former President of the Democratic Republic of Congo LAURENT KABILA of blessed memory, may his soul rest in peace. Due to the military campaign of LAURENT KABILA to force out the rebels in my country, I was instructed by Late President Kabila to go abroad to purchase arms and ammunition worth of Twenty Four Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only (US$24,500,000.00) to fight the rebel group. But when President Kabila was killed in a bloody shootout by one of his aide a day before I was schedule to travel out of Congo, I immediately decided to divert the fund into a private security company here in Congo for safe keeping.The security of the said amount is presently being threatened here following the unwanranted arrest and seizure of properties of Col. Rasheidi Karesava (The aide that shot Laurent Kabila) tribesmen ,where I am from,by the new President of the Democratic Republic of Congo the son of late President Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila. In view of this,I need a reliable and rustworthy foreign partner who can assist me to move this money out of my country as the beneficiary. I have sufficient ''contacts'' to move the fund under Diplomatic cover to a security company in the Nietherlands in your name, this is to ensure that the diplomatic baggage is marked ''confidential''and it will not pass through normal custom/airport screening and clearance. My inability to move this money out of Congo all this while lies on my lack of trust ! ! on our supposed good friends (western countries) who have suddenly became hostile to those of us who worked with the late President Laurent Kabila, since hisson took office. Though we have neither seen nor met each other, I know we will be able to establish all the trust that we need to ensure that the money will be safe with you. Thus, if you are willing to assist me to move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address with your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage)for assisting me. I will highly appreciate it if my request is given utmost priority and consideration. Best Regards, COL.DAVID OJEH (RTD) -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From bens Fri Sep 6 21:46:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g871ku309605 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:46:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:46:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209070146.g871ku009601@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Granny's Change of Address Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, Rob! > Wow, you get a sex change with the email address change. What a > bargain:) That gets thrown into the bargain when your non-techy wife surprises you with the order! Granny, dba Ma Pool From bens Fri Sep 6 22:20:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g872KPv09743 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:20:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:20:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209070220.g872KPV09739@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Status of The Lite Brigade...... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bummer Paul! At least the part was not real expensive! Keep us posted once its filled up again, hopefully it'll still work perfect! TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: "Mendo" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Status of The Lite Brigade...... > > Not remembering if the e-mail about this week=ends > activities ever showed up on mendo......so it id didn't > I'll give a brief synopsis. > On the way up thirsday I called Tom about a funnt buzzing > noise in the general ara of teh gear shifter....but it ran > fine. While up in Santa Rosa and The Sea Ranch things were > fine except for the problem of the tranny not shifting out > of first until the box heated up. (I had checked the fluid [ 71 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Sep 7 10:37:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87Ebgf14059 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:37:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:37:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071437.g87Ebg914055@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 83 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1857441595 You need to check out the link just to see the vehicle - here is the description: Landrover Defender 110 Wagon 5 Door Vehicle Description I hope someone buys this thing. I have 3 110 Defenders (all with SC titles) and have been trying to sell them for a while now. I have had 8 million people call and not a single buyer. I hate these things. It is the most uncomfortable piece of junk I have ever squeezed into. There is no room behind the steering wheel for anyone that is over 100 pounds. You sit up in the seat like you're on a farm wagon and it doesn't drive much better either. The 3.5 gas-guzzling V8 engine & 4 speed manual is more sluggish than an old Mercedes 240 diesel sedan. I have never heard so many ticks, groans, growls & rattles come out of a vehicle until I drove this one....and the other 2 ain't no different. I have come to realize now that all those "safari" fools and "expedition" eccentrics drive these Landrovers for punishment. They wouldn't know how to act if they got hold of a good ole 1990 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban with a 6.2 V8 diesel...yep, that's what I drive everyday and I love it! The interior of this 110 is very decent and original. There is a small amount of rust under the front floor mats where the floorboard angles up toward the bulkhead. Bulkhead is not rusty, in fact the body is very clean for its age (18 years old). Brakes, clutch, etc is all good. I have so much confidence in this Landrover that I am going to throw in an extra complete 3.5 V8 engine with those wonderful twin carbs....Weeee! It does not need an engine, but why not take it...I'm sure you'll need it sooner or later. I also have a complete set of crankshaft & rod bearings and an engine gasket set that goes with this 110. I have heard some bearing noise when first cranking the engine when cold, but it goes away real quick....like I said...I hate this thing and the other 2, and I'm ready to get out of the Landrover business ASAP. 8 million people can't be wrong....these things must be junk or I would have sold them by now. Vehicle Condition Can't think of anything else to piss & moan about. OH...did I mention it does have original paint that is really nice? I think I have tried to explain what a bunch of junk these things are, but I'll bet one of you out there is hard-headed enough to buy it. Be the envy of your neighbors & impress your friends, just don't let them ride in it or they'll think you're nuts for owning a tank like this. Terms of Sale REAL MONEY THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE BACK. High bidder must pay within 72 hours of close of deal with cash or cashier's check. Thanks & good luck....you'll need it. From bens Sat Sep 7 11:19:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87FJco14222 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:19:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:19:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071519.g87FJcY14218@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well...he sounds like a decent guy: offer him $200 for each one, since he seems to hate them so much. If he wants a penny more, then he can keep 'em! They can't possibly be worth more than that, since they're junk by his own words. :) Charles On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:37:42 -0400 "Turner, Jon [LFS]" writes: > > Landrover Defender 110 Wagon 5 Door > Vehicle Description > > I hope someone buys this thing. I have 3 110 Defenders (all with SC > titles) > and have been trying to sell them for a while now. I have had 8 > million > people call and not a single buyer. I hate these things. It is the [ 72 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 7 11:29:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87FT5H14272 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:29:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:29:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071529.g87FT4I14268@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James Spence (a lovely miscreant who roams the world on about .$25/day--I'm not kidding!!) is selling his 110 turbo diesel on eBay, as well. He's tried many times, to no avail. One of these days, I might just buy it from him in payment for the fantastic travel stories he mails me. C Charles R Irvin wrote: >Well...he sounds like a decent guy: offer him $200 for each one, since he >seems to hate them so much. If he wants a penny more, then he can keep >'em! > >They can't possibly be worth more than that, since they're junk by his >own words. > >:) > [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Sep 7 11:54:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87Fs8114392 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:54:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:54:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071554.g87Fs3p14388@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1857441595 The guy sure has a way of selling stuff > I hate these things. It is the most >uncomfortable piece of junk I have ever squeezed into. There is no room >behind the steering wheel for anyone that is over 100 pounds. You sit up in >the seat like you're on a farm wagon and it doesn't drive much better >either. The 3.5 gas-guzzling V8 engine & 4 speed manual is more sluggish >than an old Mercedes 240 diesel sedan. I'm not sure what the guy is talking about in lack of comfort. My new car, the '61, TR3A sits differently but not really more comfortable than my old car, the '60 109. They both seem OK to me. I have not been paying much attention to coilers but how does one have a registered 1976 Defender???? Didn't the coilers start at around '83 & the Defender name when the Discos were intro'ed? With a bogus title I might have problems selling a vehicle as well. I'm assuming it is a '76 because that was the newest vehicel that could be imported when it came over. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sat Sep 7 12:21:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87GL4s14555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:21:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:21:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071621.g87GL3H14551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's actually a pretty rare 110. It's VERY early in the production run, has the ribbed roof (ala: series III), has the split doors in the REAR which are very rare, and the older SIII style rear slider windows. But, and this is the weird thing, it has the black plastic bulkhead vents, which are (to my knowledge) a US spec 110 feature only. Hmmmm..... The earliest that truck could be is an '83. The latest *maybe* an 85. Probably more like '84. It probably is worth just under 15K. I don't think his asking price is unreasonable considering a good solid 109 in equal condition to that 110 would cost about that. Hmmmm, interesting. The 'clean title' feature is a bit intriguing.... Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Sat Sep 7 12:52:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87Gqsf14688 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:52:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:52:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071652.g87Gqrt14684@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I didn't look at the pics (no internet access) but, I though only Series I's had split rear doors!?!?!? Charles On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:21:03 -0400 "Polla Slade" writes: > > That's actually a pretty rare 110. > > It's VERY early in the production run, has the ribbed roof (ala: > series > III), has the split doors in the REAR which are very rare, and the > older > SIII style rear slider windows. But, and this is the weird thing, > it has [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 7 13:31:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87HVFP14867 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:31:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:31:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071731.g87HVFo14863@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >The 'clean title' feature is a bit intriguing.... > I've heard rumors of UK export companies that trade titles and commission numbers to sell newer vehicles to US customers. The US customer thinks he is getting a ligit vehicle with original papers. I was thinking '83 or '84 continental European spec 110 too. Considering all the vehicles running around under bogus earlier papers I suspect the buyer might not have any registration problems. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sat Sep 7 14:11:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87IB4l15040 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:11:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:11:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071811.g87IB4L15036@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Frank may want to chime in on this. There appears to be a thriving business in rebuilding older series trucks to take advantage of British tax laws based on age of vehicle. Have seen vehicles that look, feel, sound and work surprizingly like Defenders advertised as early Series trucks in LROI and other British Magazines. Apparently there is aMany point out the fact that they have passed the MOT for the supposed age of the vehicle and are completely legal and certified by the Brit. Gummint. Not saying that is the case in this truck. It is possible that this truck is a fully legal truck as far as the country of origin is concerned, though. Aloha Peter O. --- TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > > >The 'clean title' feature is a bit intriguing.... > > > > I've heard rumors of UK export companies that trade > titles and commission > numbers to sell newer vehicles to US customers. The > US customer thinks > he is getting a ligit vehicle with original papers. [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 7 14:26:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87IQUj15107 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:26:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:26:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071826.g87IQTi15103@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: D110 Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I walked down to Laurel Village to get bagels this morning and I spotted a well used NAS D110 with factory running boards and a St. Francis Yacht club sticker. Anyone know who owns this one? Kevin From bens Sat Sep 7 14:30:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87IUtw15139 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:30:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:30:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209071830.g87IUtK15135@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's the stront point right there: So long as the paperwork jives for the year that the vehicle is claimed to be, then everything's okay. Engine swaps are all the rage, so it could have anything under the bonnet. (like a G.M. 6.5 diesel) However, if you're going to buy a truck that's "questionable", then EBay definately is not the place. Buyer Beware. Charles On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:11:04 -0400 Peter Ogilvie writes: > > Not saying that is the case in this truck. It is > possible that this truck is a fully legal truck as far > as the country of origin is concerned, though. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 7 18:02:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g87M28t16023 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:02:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:02:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209072202.g87M28016019@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh yeah, there are LOTS of ways to legitimately title a later model Land Rover. But, I still think that it's an '83 or '84. Those doors are super rare, and if anyone was going to 'Defenderize' a SII-SIII wagon, they for sure wouldn't use those doors. The only doors that are rarer than those rear doors are the 1-piece roll-up doors that have the SII-SIII recessed curved handle exterior door latch. Now THOSE are rare. Front ones are rare, rear ones rarer still. The crewcab I'm building originally had 2-piece rear doors. The doors are from '83 and are very cool. I traded them to Cooper for some other goodies that I could really use. The rear doors on the crewcab are modified front roll-up window doors. Someone ought to jump in on the bidding and fire him a few questions. Honestly, I think he probably does have 3 legitimately titled 110's. There are lots of them in the US as TeriAnn pointed out. Later, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From bens Sat Sep 7 21:33:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g881XjR16823 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:33:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:33:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080133.g881Xj616819@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In case you didn't notice, the person selling it runs a larger operation selling Land Rovers and other vehicles. http://www.turkys.com/LandRovers.html Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Sat Sep 7 22:38:47 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g882clb17067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:38:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:38:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080238.g882clV17063@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Engine swaps are all the rage, so it could > have anything under the bonnet. (like a G.M. 6.5 diesel) > Yeaaaah baby :) From bens Sat Sep 7 22:40:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g882eav17103 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:40:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:40:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080240.g882eal17099@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Honestly, I think he probably does have 3 legitimately titled 110's. There > are lots of them in the US as TeriAnn pointed out. So he has a legaly title 1976 Defender??? Thing must be worth a couple hundred grand then. It must be the pre-pre-preproduction model :) hahahaha Pete From bens Sat Sep 7 22:45:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g882jNX17133 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:45:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:45:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080245.g882jN717129@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: defender 110 for sale on ebay Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > away real quick....like I said...I hate this thing and the other 2, and I'm > ready to get out of the Landrover business ASAP. 8 million people can't be > wrong....these things must be junk or I would have sold them by now. Looked at all the other rovers he has. Guess they are all junk. Great thought process, "must be junk or it would have sold". Hmmm, maybe that explains why I can't sell my 2001 BMW for 350k. Must be a piece of junk too. Pete From bens Sat Sep 7 23:22:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g883M6u17277 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:22:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:22:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080322.g883M5Y17273@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: ride to Palo Alto on Sunday? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Is there anyone leaving from SF, or driving thru SF around 10:30 = tomorrow on the way to the British Car meet? If so, can you call me at 415-282-5500. I am going earlier, but my son = Nate will be at Glide Church (Taylor and Ellis at about 10:30 and would = like to go. Thanks so much, Daniel From bens Sat Sep 7 23:33:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g883XSp17326 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:33:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:33:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080333.g883XRT17322@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 32 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" I saw 499/500 while at the West Coast British Open House this Saturday - definitely an expedition vehicle setup. Anybody know who owns it? FYI, there will be a large convoy leaving from WCB at 8 am tomorrow morning for the field meet. CB channel 1. Jon Jon Turner '01 RR 4.6 HSE '93 NAS 110 412/500 From bens Sun Sep 8 00:01:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8841In17540 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:01:18 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:01:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200209080401.g8841II17536@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I saw 499/500 while at the West Coast British Open House > this Saturday - > definitely an expedition vehicle setup. Anybody know who > owns it? I've wondered myself...I parked by it at a hwy 5 rest-stop a few years ago coming back from Anzo Borrega. When I mentioned on the list, someone mentioned thay had been down in Baha, so someone here know who owns it... It look really well set-up. The Lite Brigade look really ratty next to it.....come to think of it, recently it just looks ratty, doesn't it! Time to start purtying up things as well as working on the mechanicals! ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From bens Sun Sep 8 09:57:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88DveT21335 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:57:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:57:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209081357.g88Dvet21331@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I saw 499/500 while at the West Coast British Open House this Saturday - Dare I ask what is West Coast British & where? TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sun Sep 8 11:42:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88Fgvm21772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 11:42:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 11:42:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209081542.g88FgvL21768@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn, West Coast British is a mostly-Series repair shop in Livermore run by a guy called Mike Green. He also sponsors or presents the Nevada Team Trophy or whatever it's called. I emailed him once about the 300 Tdi and he responded after about 3 emails on my part over several weeks with, basically, "why would you want to do that?" so I didn't pursue the matter - not with him, anyway. Craig TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > >I saw 499/500 while at the West Coast British Open House this Saturday - > > Dare I ask what is West Coast British & where? > > TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please > Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - > twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message > > http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Sep 8 15:33:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88JXWE22763 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:33:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:33:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209081933.g88JXW722759@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know of a source for fixings to mount a laptop? I need to secure mine in the RR and thought you guys may have some recommendations.... Kevan From bens Sun Sep 8 17:03:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88L3Qk23140 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:03:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:03:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209082103.g88L3Pw23136@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ram Mount. Great great stuff. www.ram-mount.com Pete From bens Sun Sep 8 17:58:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88LwS523415 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:58:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:58:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209082158.g88LwRl23411@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Keith Shukait wins Field Meet Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 20 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Congrats to Keith for winning 'best daily driver' at the Palo Alto British Field Meet! -------------------------- Jon Turner LifeScan, Inc. 408.956.4457 sent via Blackberry From bens Sun Sep 8 18:15:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g88MFpp23512 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:15:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209082215.g88MFpR23508@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Clayton Kirkwood" To: "Mendo" Subject: sighting in Newcastle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sitting in Ride Share lot in Newcastle, Ca. License Plate "82 SER3". Very interesting given the year. Very clean. There at least 9:30 to 1pm. Tan. Anyone dare to own it???? From bens Sun Sep 8 21:09:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8919kZ24243 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:09:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090109.g8919kF24239@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Pete! Why didn't I think of them? My GPS is mounted using their setup and it IS great. It was good to meet you and the Aloha Rover Thursday. Very nice job on the Rover. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.... Kevan From bens Sun Sep 8 21:46:21 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g891kLJ24404 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:46:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:46:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090146.g891kKp24400@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >TeriAnn, > >West Coast British is a mostly-Series repair shop in Livermore run by a guy >called Mike Green. Oh Right. Thanks I remember him I just forgot the name of the company and was thinking it might be a new company. Maybe my memory needs new batteries. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sun Sep 8 22:12:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g892CXR24555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:12:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:12:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090212.g892CXh24551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NAS 110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Try a restart. Craig TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > > > >TeriAnn, > > > >West Coast British is a mostly-Series repair shop in Livermore run by a guy > >called Mike Green. > > Oh Right. Thanks I remember him I just forgot the name of the company > and was thinking it might be a new company. > [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Sep 8 22:48:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g892mdI24705 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:48:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:48:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090248.g892mdo24701@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No problem with the questions.... Nick Eckert deserves the credit for Ram Mount, he is the one that told me about them. Glad ya liked the Rover. Took her over to evans creek this past weekend for her shakedown cruise. I am in awe of just how well it does off road. Simply beuatiful :-) Later Pete > > Thanks Pete! Why didn't I think of them? My GPS is mounted using their setup From bens Mon Sep 9 00:09:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8949UK25210 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:09:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:09:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090409.g8949UV25206@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >No problem with the questions.... Nick Eckert deserves the credit for Ram >Mount, he is the one that told me about them. Has anyone heard from Nick? The last I heard he was still keeping our sub fleet safe from bomb tossing lunatics. RW -- "Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying,'Dude, that was awesome!" From bens Mon Sep 9 00:32:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g894WM226383 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:32:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:32:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209090432.g894WLE26379@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Palo Alto and cellphones... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org



>From: Charles R Irvin
>I got the Motorola 280 Timeport: Tri-band GSM Worldphone, so if I decide
>to travel overseas, I can sign up for their World Service, and dial
>direct from/to anyplace. Cost more, but got a $50.00 rebate for the
>phone.

Charles,

I was working over in Europe for 4 weeks this past July and we had a tri-band phone with us. What we had to do to make it work was go to a service provider, like Orange in France and Italy, and purchase a GSM card. This gave us a local phone number. Then we could go to any Tabac and buy a recharge card for x amount of Euros. I'm not sure if your local US phone number will work overseas. I think you might have to buy a card for local service. But you'll still have all your numbers, etc. I think the one number, one world thing is more satellite based.

-Lou Weinert



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From bens Mon Sep 9 08:41:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89CfaV28660 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:41:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:41:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091241.g89Cfan28656@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: West Coast British Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" TeriAnn, The 1953 Series I that won at the Palo Alto Field meet on Sunday was a frame up restoration from West Coast British. Jon From bens Mon Sep 9 09:43:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89Dh3X29013 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:43:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:43:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091343.g89Dh2629009@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >No problem with the questions.... Nick Eckert deserves the credit for Ram > >Mount, he is the one that told me about them. > > Has anyone heard from Nick? The last I heard he was still keeping > our sub fleet safe from bomb tossing lunatics. > > RW We live two miles from Bangor Naval Station. He is still working security there. He is busy, but still attends most of the PCRC events. He went with me to test out the Aloha Rover on Saturday. Pete From bens Mon Sep 9 09:54:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89Dsgf29093 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:54:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091354.g89Dsgq29089@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > >No problem with the questions.... Nick Eckert deserves the credit for Ram >> >Mount, he is the one that told me about them. >> >> Has anyone heard from Nick? The last I heard he was still keeping >> our sub fleet safe from bomb tossing lunatics. >> >> RW > >We live two miles from Bangor Naval Station. He is still working security [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] The next time you see him, tell him Les and I said "Hi". RW -- "Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying,'Dude, that was awesome!" From bens Mon Sep 9 10:24:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89EO0M29259 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:24:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:23:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091423.g89ENxB29255@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Laptop Mounting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > > >We live two miles from Bangor Naval Station. He is still working security > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > The next time you see him, tell him Les and I said "Hi". > RW Will do. He does still get the list in digest mode :-) Pete From bens Mon Sep 9 14:49:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89InMq31756 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:49:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:49:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091849.g89InMP31750@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, Today a new manu Series OD is listed. Anyone familiar with it? Doesn't say who is the manu. Frank From bens Mon Sep 9 15:36:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89Jaku32032 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:36:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:36:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091936.g89JakG32028@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's the one available from Ray Wood (Wise owl, aka Rocky Mountain something). It was his development project, I'm not sure who does the manufacturing for him. -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 9 15:55:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89JtGd32161 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:55:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:55:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209091955.g89JtFb32157@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gerry Elam" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org See http://www.roverdrives.com Cheers, Gerry >From: "Franklin H. Yap" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: BP Special >Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:49:22 -0400 > >Hi all, > >Today a new manu Series OD is listed. Anyone familiar with it? Doesn't [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Mon Sep 9 17:16:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89LGmg00315 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:16:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:16:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209092116.g89LGmb00311@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org According to that site the introductory price is $1000 but the BP Special is $1100! --------------------- Gerry Elam wrote: >See http://www.roverdrives.com > From bens Mon Sep 9 17:30:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89LUeP00469 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:30:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:30:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209092130.g89LUeF00465@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...the BP Special is $1100!..." Call Ray. Last I heard he had a bit of a waiting list. You may be paying for the bird in the hand with BP. :^) -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 9 18:06:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89M6ar00727 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:06:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:06:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209092206.g89M6aV00723@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just discussing the RD off-list with Zack. The only thing I'm not too sure on is the oil circulation theory. If I were going to buy one (my Santana's still working fine, thanks, or it would be if the motor hadn't been out of the truck for about 6 months!), I'd probably drain my t-case and put in nice fresh 90wt dino juice, and then fill the RD with something like the blue Amsoil synthetic Series 2000 75w90. Then drive around a hundred miles or so, and drain the t-case. See if it comes out green like oil has been flowing back and forth and mixing well. If it came out virgin yellow, I'd be concerned. -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 9 19:19:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g89NJkm01155 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:19:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:19:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209092319.g89NJjK01151@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >J The only thing I'm not too sure >on is the oil circulation theory. Well 8 days ago I looked at a disassembled prototype test unit that Ray said had 10K miles on it. It looked brand new inside. On the other hand one should replace the 90wt as often as that factory says to and not wait until the gearbox needs to come out and one should take care to make sure the oil level does not resemble Shasta lake at the end of the summer during the fifth year of a drought. The unit looks real beefy inside & I suspect as long as the oil is maintained per the LR factory recommendations the OD should last a goodly long time. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Mon Sep 9 20:12:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8A0Cme01467 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:12:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:12:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209100012.g8A0ClW01463@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Pass this to the members of the list... Ray Wood offered the Roverdrive at a special introductory price of $1000 on his website, but it did not include the hardware kit (installation tools) the dip stick, and a number of other features. You can't buy it at that price ($1000) today. We called him today, and he assured us that the price we are showing, $1100, is the current price for the same unit, if you buy it from Ray or from BP. I agreed with Ray to sell it at the same price everyone else is. I know everyone is used to BP being the lowest price, especially on Series parts, but sometimes we can only be 'as good as'. If anyone doubts this, call Ray and ask him for yourself. Steve TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Mon Sep 9 21:12:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8A1CM701758 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209100112.g8A1CL301754@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Just discussing the RD off-list with Zack. The only thing I'm not too sure > on is the oil circulation theory. If I were going to buy one (my Santana's > still working fine, thanks, or it would be if the motor hadn't been out of > the truck for about 6 months!), I'd probably drain my t-case and put in nice > fresh 90wt dino juice, and then fill the RD with something like the blue > Amsoil synthetic Series 2000 75w90. Then drive around a hundred miles or > so, and drain the t-case. See if it comes out green like oil has been > flowing back and forth and mixing well. If it came out virgin yellow, I'd > be concerned. Aloha. There is an RD in an 88 here in Seattle. One of the first ones. Not an ounce of noise difference between being engaged or disengaged, or installed. Thing is quite!! The design is very similar to the Advance Adapters Saturn Overdrive, only the Saturn has 4 planetaries. The oil system works great on both of them. Just so ya know, you don't fill the RD. There is nothing to fill. It's a great Over Drive and if I still had a Rover drive train I would be getting one. Pete From bens Mon Sep 9 21:21:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8A1L5L01870 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:21:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:21:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200209100121.g8A1L5901866@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What do you need explained about INTRODUCTORY price. Ray put out something like 15 units at $1,000 so he could go into production. They've been long sold and finally delivered. The introductory price probably is no longer an option as the O/D is no longer in the introductory phase. You can try Ray direct and see if he will still sell them at a $1,000. Good luck. Aloha Peter O. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From bens Mon Sep 9 23:57:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8A3vnR02789 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:57:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:57:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209100357.g8A3vng02785@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter Ogilvie wrote: >... The introductory price probably is >no longer an option as the O/D is no longer in the >introductory phase. > Then he should probably remove that note from his website. (Or put a reference to a time frame for the introductory price.) Frank From bens Tue Sep 10 09:42:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8ADgHQ07023 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:42:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:42:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209101342.g8ADgHP07019@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....Just so ya know, you don't fill the RD. There is nothing to fill...." So, the instructions on the website that say, "When you first install a "ROVERDRIVE" you pour half a liter of oil into the housing and seal it up." are an error, like the continued reference to a no-longer-honored price? I don't think so. Hey, we all make mistakes. Seems like you need to add oil when you install it. Looks like a great unit, well designed and well worth the price. I commend Ray for taking on the huge effort required to bring it to market. Looks like he's done his homework and got it right. I wasn't questioning the effectiveness of the oiling system. Just saying why not take a precaution for the peace of mind. But that's just me. To each his own. -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 10 09:56:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8ADufu07111 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:56:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:56:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209101356.g8ADufU07107@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > "....Just so ya know, you don't fill the RD. There is nothing to fill...." > > So, the instructions on the website that say, "When you first install a > "ROVERDRIVE" you pour half a liter of oil into the housing and seal it up." Hey Dave, nope I didn't read the the instructions :( Let me pull my foot outa my mouth and go do that now :) Pete From bens Tue Sep 10 10:13:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8AEDt307258 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:13:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:13:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209101413.g8AEDsD07254@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....Let me pull my foot outa my mouth...." And I'll put the lid back on the sarcasm box. :^( Not sure how that got opened up so early in the morning. Are you for sure going to make it to the Mojave Road? I'm dying to check out the home built chassis in person. -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 10 11:01:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8AF1RQ07855 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:01:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:01:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209101501.g8AF1Rq07851@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: BP Special Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Are you for sure going to make it to the Mojave Road? I'm dying to check > out the home built chassis in person. 100% ... no. But am planning on it. I am moving the tub bulkhead back 3-4 inches so I can get more leg room. No way I can stand...ok sit for more then 3 hours at a spell with the seats as they are. I am only 5-10, but I have banged up knees and ankles and find the cab really cramped on road trips. Off road I don't even notice it, but on the highway it really bugs me. I am going to see if anyone else from the PCRC want's to convoy down with me. A couple are thinking about it. Pete From bens Tue Sep 10 19:15:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8ANFDX11091 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:15:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:15:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209102315.g8ANFC311087@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: pop top sited in junkyard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm not interested but I saw this in the Windsor, CA "pick your part": A pop up fiberglass roof structure on a '1968 Dodge camper van. The low profile fiberglass panel is off to the side but the linkage, apperture and tent material are still attached to the van. It appears too wide for a Series or Defender, but someone could probably narrow the linkages and rooftop to fit. A bit of cutting, fitting and fiberglass work along with redoing the tent portion might make something pretty neat... Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From bens Tue Sep 10 21:49:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B1nnQ11849 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:49:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:49:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110149.g8B1nmU11845@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sure is quiet here... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Where is everybody??? Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 10 22:05:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B25oc11949 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:05:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:05:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110205.g8B25o911945@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sure is quiet here... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org i was woundering that too - dam i'm board, any one got anything to talk about????? is the pismo beech trip happening this weekend?? if anyone is going through Mountain View - any chance of a lift????? cheers - Tim >From: Charles R Irvin >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Sure is quiet here... >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:49:48 -0400 > >Where is everybody??? > >Charles [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From bens Tue Sep 10 23:08:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B38iq12268 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:08:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:08:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110308.g8B38ho12264@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: CHP Lying in Wait Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 18 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 9/3/02 6:16:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cirvin1258@juno.com writes: > They have airplanes: you can't see them when they're up there, so > wouldn't this be considered "lying in wait"? > > Granted, their planes were recently grounded for FAA violations... > > Answer to question #1, it probably isn't lying in wait if they have a sign someplace which advises you that they are patrolling from the air. Answer to #2, The planes were grounded for an airworthiness directive due to failures in engines installed in some planes. Some crankshafts were improperly heat treated, and those engines were identified, and those aircraft removed from service. It was an oops by the manufacturer, not the CHP. There are areas in various areas of California, (which are designated by signs )where maximum enforcement is in effect. I believe that they are allowed to lay in wait for violators there, as the rules in those sections are Federal, not State. Not entirely sure, but I follow the limits very carefully there, as in other places. These aren't really my rules to enforce, or know about. From bens Tue Sep 10 23:56:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B3uq612726 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:56:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:56:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110356.g8B3uqR12722@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: pop top sited in junkyard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- joe mulqueen wrote: > > I'm not interested but I saw this in the Windsor, CA > "pick your part": Where is that? I know things here have changed since I moved down to south bay years ago....there used to be a row of car yards somewhere in windsor, but had thought tey were all gone. Creams, by teh airport is overpriced and never anytihng interesting..I am basicly in windsor(sonoma county airport) for yet anothetr day painting airplanes. so could go ahve a look at lunch on wednesday..I have been having evil ideas of same with a vanagon westfalia top myself...but at the moment have no 109 to base it on....had thought of doing so with a rangie possibly! ;-0 Paul > A pop up fiberglass roof structure on a '1968 Dodge > camper van. The low profile fiberglass panel is off > to the side but the linkage, apperture and tent > material are still attached to the van. It appears > too wide for a Series or Defender, but someone could > probably narrow the linkages and rooftop to fit. A > bit of cutting, fitting and fiberglass work along with > redoing the tent portion might make something pretty > neat... [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From bens Wed Sep 11 00:01:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B41Q612903 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:01:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:01:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110401.g8B41PK12899@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Sure is quiet here... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We are not here, really! This is just your imagination :) TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles R Irvin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: Sure is quiet here... > > Where is everybody??? > > Charles > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 00:04:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B44Rk12934 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:04:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:04:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110404.g8B44Rh12930@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sure is quiet here... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- tim boorman wrote: > > i was woundering that too - dam i'm board, any one got > anything to talk > about????? me too! Tim? where wre you on Sunday? I tried to call to see if you wanted a ride to the Palo Alto British car meet, stopped by but didn't see your car. ;-( Yopu missed out on seing a field full of rovers, and all sorts of other british cars. > is the pismo beech trip happening this weekend?? if > anyone is going through > Mountain View - any chance of a lift????? Still not decided if I'll be going, but am planning on it. ;-) I'll check with you when I am back in town after wednesday night...if you're bored, you can help me with the re-install of teh replacement engine for the midget! ;-) and also with pulling the heads on Joe's Rangie! I'm starting that later this week even if I don't get the midget running, as there are two spaces in teh driveway. Let me know..and there is always work needed to get done on the disco or the 88" ;-).....and the Ducati....and... Paul __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From bens Wed Sep 11 01:34:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B5Y9G14597 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 01:34:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 01:34:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110534.g8B5Y9X14593@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am about to put the tub back on the 109 and want to do the wiring harness fro the back. I am considering getting one of those wiring kits with X number of fuses from Summit. I have not looked into other options. I would appreciate any insights and vendors that you can throw my way. I am planning on running the wires to the back on the side of the chassis; instead of the original inside, just in the future modification becomes necessary. Thanks Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 11 02:05:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B659n14715 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:05:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:05:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110605.g8B659B14711@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Cc: Subject: to all ( off topic ) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Lets all take a few moments to reflect on freedom, our own personal choices, the lives of those lost last year, and ALL who have done such in previous history for the good of others. Lets hope at the end of the day ( today, tomorrow, and other days ) that freedom and the peace that goes with it prevails ( well, unless we gotta kick some butt to keep all peoples ideoligies and beliefs free ) TomW From bens Wed Sep 11 02:36:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B6a5F14854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:36:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:36:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110636.g8B6a4t14850@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: WTC photos to share... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Here's a link to some photos I shot of NYC and the WTC in October of 2000. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79975 Feel free to share them as you see fit. Warmly, Michael Slade _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Wed Sep 11 02:52:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8B6qG214928 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:52:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:52:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209110652.g8B6qFL14924@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: to all ( off topic ) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...and contrary to the stories you hear in the news, DO NOT freak out when you see a "tourist" videotaping local/national monuments: many many people do this. However, if they happen to be "marking" them with a GPS... In other words, don't over-react when you see normal happenings, and treat fellow citizens as such. Charles - AIR RACES THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!! P.S. Will be travelling through Sac to Reno again, and will once again keep my eyes open for broken Land Rovers...(going through Palmdale/Mojave this time) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 11 09:01:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BD1SG16584 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:01:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:01:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111301.g8BD1Sp16580@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: "Tomb Raider" 130 for sale on ebay again - this time no reserve Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 31 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1858560239 This has been up for sale a couple of times before, and it is back again. Jon From bens Wed Sep 11 09:03:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BD3Cn16599 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:03:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:03:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111303.g8BD3BA16595@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, I am very happy with the Painless kit I put in Regent. Had plenty of extra circuits. The biggest issue with an aftermarket harness is where your going to mount the fuse box. I had planned on Regents fuse box to be mounted next to the driver on the plastic lower facia. After running all the wires I went to mount it and it interfered with the shifter and the drivers leg:( Luckily there was enough room for me to move it to the other side and it is mounted in front of the passenger. Plan very carefully and check your plans. -Rob From bens Wed Sep 11 09:17:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BDH8T16678 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:17:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:17:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111317.g8BDH8d16674@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: to all ( off topic ) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Charles, If you see a copy of that Mojave book get one for me will you? Here's alink to some photos I shot 3 years ago. They are appropriate for today. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79975 Enjoy. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Wed Sep 11 09:42:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BDgq216882 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:42:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:42:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111342.g8BDgqC16878@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: video tape and GPS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > However, if they happen to be "marking" them with a > GPS... That last sentance caught me off guard. Ever since getting my GPS I take it where ever I go and same thing goes for the camera. I am always marking waypoints of unique things as I shoot them. As some may know I am really into maps, map reading, and navigation, and have been putting together a guide book. I also love photography. My thoughts have been to put together a book that included some of these photos. So you ever see a 5-10 Haole with a crew cut doing this, ask if he knows about the Aloha Rover before popping him on the head with a BB bat ;-) Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 09:55:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BDtqN17057 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:55:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:55:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111355.g8BDtqU17053@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: "Tomb Raider" 130 for sale on ebay again - this time no reserve Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1858560239 > > This has been up for sale a couple of times before, and it is back again. > Jon Hmmm, notice the add now says that the vehicle is in LA, CA. On Labour day the vehicle was still in Tacoma Washington. Vehicle is a 93 Rapier body. Registered in WA as a 1993 Land Rover.Defender. Thats how WA has the NADA 110's listed. It doesn't really specify body style or wheelbase. The owner never would tell me why he he "couldn't take it with him". That's from his old adds, was moving and couldn't take it. Wonder if it's because the vehicle couldn't be registered anywhere else. Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 10:04:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BE4Kh17182 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:04:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:04:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111404.g8BE4Kg17178@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: "Tomb Raider" 130 for sale on ebay again - this time no reserve Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ohhhhhhh. I see what is going on. The guy that is listing the Rover is not the same one from WA that was listing it. He just bought the Rover for 15,000 on September 2. Wonder why he is selling it already? Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 10:25:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEPkF17377 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:25:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:25:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111425.g8BEPjf17373@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WTC photos to share... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nice shots, Michael! Beauty and tradgedy .. Frank ------------------ Polla Slade wrote: >Here's a link to some photos I shot of NYC and the WTC in October of 2000. > >http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79975 > >Feel free to share them as you see fit. > From bens Wed Sep 11 10:29:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BETeK17400 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111429.g8BETem17396@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave Road book Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No problem at all: just so happens I'm staying at a place on W. 4th street this time, and will be looking for that bookstore. If I don't see it there, I'll be heading to Barstow when I get back, because I want to have maps for Mojave Rd. for once! (I'm familiar with all the paved roads there, but not the trails) Charles On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:17:08 -0400 "Polla Slade" writes: > > Hey Charles, > > If you see a copy of that Mojave book get one for me will you? > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 11 10:30:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEUpn17439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:30:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:30:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111430.g8BEUpg17435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: video tape and GPS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Last week on NBC News, they ran a (another...) story on how D.C. was "on alert" after a person of "middle Eastern descent" was spotted videotaping the Washington Monument, among other points....I think they went a bit too far with that alert business. Heck, whenever I get the shutter bug, I go out with a couple of rolls of film, and I snap all kinds of stuff, just to practice in different lighting (and as rarely as I use a camera, it's about time I did this again...), I've got misc. pics of everything from the old Pt. Fermin Lighthouse, to pics of the USS New Jersey and USS Missouri docked side by side in Long Beach. Big deal. In the Air Force (I'm sure the Army and Navy do it too), "painting" (marking) targets either by GPS coordinates or by laser designation is the norm. So, in reference to somebody being seen with a video camera - who cares? I'm sure that maps of these places can be found on the internet, so I wouldn't be particularly worried if I saw somebody out there filming. If I saw them with a GPS and pacing off distances, then I'd ask what they were doing. If I had a GPS (contrary to past remarks, I just might get one some day...), I'd probably go nuts and mark lotsa stuff too, but since I can pass for Middle Eastern at a glance (and Mexican, and Samoan, and...), I'd have to be careful with when I used the thing! Be careful out there. Charles On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:42:52 -0400 "Peter Hope" writes: > > > > However, if they happen to be "marking" them with a > > GPS... > > That last sentance caught me off guard. Ever since getting my GPS I > take it > where ever I go and same thing goes for the camera. I am always > marking [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 11 10:43:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEhSd17528 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:43:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:43:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111443.g8BEhS217524@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone know why I never see my own posts to Mendo? I am guessing that all of them get through because other people respond to them, but I never see them myself. Maybe I should just resub with another non-hotmail email account. is it majordomo at fourfold.org and 'unsubscribe' from this account and then 'subscribe' from another? Thanks Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 10:57:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEvEO17670 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111457.g8BEvEX17666@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org maybe a setting at Hotmail? Something like don't show me emails that I sent? To subscribe send and email to majordomo with the content of: subscribe mendo_recce or subscribe mendo_recce-digest send the first line if you want to be in realtime. Send the second if you want to be on the digest. If you ever want to be removed from the list, send email to: majordomo@fourfold.org and send the text: unsubscribe mendo_recce or unsubscribe mendo_recce-digest >Anyone know why I never see my own posts to Mendo? > >I am guessing that all of them get through because other people respond to >them, but I never see them myself. > >Maybe I should just resub with another non-hotmail email account. > >is it majordomo at fourfold.org >and 'unsubscribe' from this account and then 'subscribe' from another? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista, 2001 Merlin Extra Fat 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Wed Sep 11 10:57:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEvTd17687 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111457.g8BEvT517683@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209111443.g8BEhS217524@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Anyone know why I never see my own posts to Mendo? I dunno. The list sends every post to everybody. Two ideas come to mind: 1. You ISP blocks mail sent to you from yourself as SPAM. This list leaves the original poster on the from line, so it looks like a remote hosts is sending mail to you as yourself. 2. Your mail client recognizes this mail as from yourself and files it somewhere else. I'd guess that #1 is much more likely. > I am guessing that all of them get through because other people respond to > them, but I never see them myself. I see your messages. > is it majordomo at fourfold.org > and 'unsubscribe' from this account and then 'subscribe' from another? That is correct. Ben From bens Wed Sep 11 10:57:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BEvax17706 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:57:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111457.g8BEvam17702@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Mojave Road book Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I ordered the Mojave Rd guide from the web at http://www.desertusa.com/web_cart/db/pages/5094.html I got the book within 5 days. The same book is on Amazon for 50$ used. Amazon says no new ones available. Well at least it was that way last month when I ordered mine from Desert USA. Great, great, great, ... , great book. Really wanna do this trip. Heck I wanna try and make Mendo in April also. We will only be here for 2 more years before SWMBO next rotation and most likely we will be back on the East Coast or Europe from here. Not that Europe would be bad, but want to get to as many different events as I can while we are here. Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 11:04:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BF4fF17819 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111504.g8BF4fc17815@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Re: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I dunno. The list sends every post to everybody. Two ideas come to > mind: > 1. You ISP blocks mail sent to you from yourself as SPAM. This list leaves > the original poster on the from line, so it looks like a remote hosts > is sending mail to you as yourself. > 2. Your mail client recognizes this mail as from yourself and files it > somewhere else. Thanks John and Ben. I think it is hotail too. What is strange is that it is only the Mendo list. LRO I see my posts. Well I will sub with another and see what happens. Thanks again. Pete From bens Wed Sep 11 11:10:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFACV17928 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:10:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:10:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111510.g8BFACG17924@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: "Mendo_Recce" Subject: just testing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org from a new account From bens Wed Sep 11 11:20:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFK1B18012 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:20:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:20:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111520.g8BFK1K18005@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Pete, Check your settings if you're using some type of firewall software: when I set Norton on "High Filtration" Mendo posts, and Cortina List posts tend to disappear. Charles On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:41 -0400 "Peter Hope" writes: > > > I dunno. The list sends every post to everybody. Two ideas come > to > > mind: > > 1. You ISP blocks mail sent to you from yourself as SPAM. This > list > leaves > > the original poster on the from line, so it looks like a > remote hosts [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 11 11:25:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFPGI18044 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:25:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:25:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111525.g8BFPGp18040@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: just testing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, I saw it. (happy happy joy joy plays softly in the back ground) > > from a new account > > From bens Wed Sep 11 11:35:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFZom18118 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:35:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:35:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111535.g8BFZo718114@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: just testing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah but did anyone else see it???? ;^) Bob B At 08:25 AM 9/11/2002, you wrote: >Hey, I saw it. >(happy happy joy joy plays softly in the back ground) > > > > > > from a new account > > > > From bens Wed Sep 11 11:36:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFamE18133 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:36:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:36:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111536.g8BFamc18129@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Posts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That would be so strange. I do have two firewalls running on my LAN here at the house but as I said the hotmail saw the hotmail posts on LRO and it saw everyone elses Mendo post, but not the hotmail on mendo. And I just sub'ed from my qwest account and can see my own posts. Same PC, same email client. Think it's just a hotmail issue. Well it's free, can't complain. Pete > Pete, > > Check your settings if you're using some type of firewall software: when > I set Norton on "High Filtration" Mendo posts, and Cortina List posts > tend to disappear. > > Charles > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:41 -0400 "Peter Hope" [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 11:57:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BFvHE18331 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:57:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:57:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111557.g8BFvHM18327@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Are you just talking about replacing the rear harness? What is that, like 5 wires? Those circuits should be already fused on the supply side. All you need is a piece of cable that carries 5 wires, maybe 16-18 ga. Call an industrial wiring supply and get something really nice for maybe a buck a foot. If you don't like the 1-fuse idea, then you can think about breaking things up, but that's a different project. I got a 6-way fuse block from the auto parts store fro maybe $10 that takes the blade-type fuses and mounted it right in place of the old fuse block. Just some more ideas. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 11 12:09:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BG9VJ18510 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:09:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:09:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111609.g8BG9VT18506@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Windsor junkyard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, It's on the west side of Redwood Highway in Winsdsor - approx 1/2 mile north of the automotive paint stripping business (another interesting place to visit). Joe PS. The top panel is leaning between two other vans a few spots over. Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:56:52 -0400 From: Paul Archibald Subject: Re: pop top sited in junkyard - --- joe mulqueen wrote: > > I'm not interested but I saw this in the Windsor, CA > "pick your part": Where is that? I know things here have changed since I moved down to south bay years ago....there used to be a row of car yards somewhere in windsor, but had thought tey were all gone. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From bens Wed Sep 11 12:11:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BGBZr18545 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:11:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:11:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111611.g8BGBYp18541@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, I wired my rear with full circuits to left-right turn and separate stop. You might consider getting one of the encapsulated wiring convertors for a trailer and wire it into your harness with a female trailer jack for towing. I strongly recommend adhesive-lined heat shrink crimp terminals where needed. West Marine and others carry Ancor terminals and wire. Painless makes some nice harnesses, too but the wire isn't as good as Ancor's marine-grade fine-strand tinned wire. clarke From bens Wed Sep 11 13:19:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BHJRN19162 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:19:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:19:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111719.g8BHJR019158@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks folks. I am doing the whole truck. I had followed the list on the connector and was planning on getting some from west marine. I have to figure out where to put the fuse box as Rob mentioned. I think it will be under the hood. I will be including the tow wiring harness along with speakers and an un-switched heavy gauge positive for any possible ancillaries like the cooler that Dave bought or lights or what ever I might need in the back. I also am thinking about the wiper and defroster. Can you get the wires and put it on the glass, or do I need to fork out the money for an OEM one? Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 11 14:13:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BID2s19658 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:13:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:13:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111813.g8BID1819654@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Land Rover G4 Challenge info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm on the press release list from Land Rover for their G4 Challenge and just got word that their site is now online discussing all the many aspects of the event. They are now taking applications for people to compete as well. In a nut shell the event will pit 16 bi-national teams against one another in 4 locations around the world. Each location will feature different tasks and requirements and will use different vehicles. The first stage is in New York and the East Coast and will use Freelanders. The second stage is in South Africa and will use Defenders. The third stage is in Australia and will use the new RR. The final stage will be in Moab, Utah and will use the Discovery. Should be interesting. I was really hoping that they would bring the Defenders to the West Coast though! Maybe they'll be here for support roles. www.landroverg4challenge.com Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Wed Sep 11 14:14:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BIETc19692 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:14:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:14:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111814.g8BIETB19688@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...an un-switched heavy gauge positive for any possible ancillaries like the cooler that Dave bought...." FYI, the installation instructions for the fridge ask for a 10 ga wire to the power receptacle. I thought that was really silly, and a CYA, since the thing never draws more than a couple of amps. I went with 12ga, which I thought was still overkill, but it's easier to handle than 10 ga, and I fused it with a 10 amp fuse at the battery, so the wire will never be the limiting factor. No problems so far. Off to the powder coater to pick up the roof rack! -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 11 14:24:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BIOIP19826 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111824.g8BIOHh19822@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: Re: Land Rover G4 Challenge info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 5 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Multipart/Alternative; ] [ Text/Plain; ] [ Text/HTML; ] [ image/gif ] [ Image/jpeg ] [ 247 lines filtered. ] --------------Boundary-00=_ARDAH890000000000000 From bens Wed Sep 11 14:27:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BIRfS19922 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:27:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:27:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111827.g8BIRet19918@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Land Rover G4 Challenge info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry, some other interesting bits I gleaned about the LRG4C. The "prize" for the winner of the event is a brand new RR. Seems kind of strange, but whatever. The event will be taped and broadcast as a reality adventure challenge TV program sponsored by Land Rover. It looks like the show will be some sort of regular multi-part show a-la Survivor. The rules states applicants agree to keep strictly confidential and not disclose information about the event at any time from the date of application and for twelve (12) months following the first transmission on television of the final episode of the Programme. It also states that persons who have previously competed in any event s ponsored by Land Rover are not eligible to participate in the Land Rover G4 Challenge. Looks like the actual event will take place between March and May of 2003. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Wed Sep 11 15:03:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJ3BX20328 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:03:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:03:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111903.g8BJ3BS20324@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, I just did the same thing when I installed a West Marine 12V outlet for my ARB - I thought, as you did, why do I need such a bigass wire for such a low-amp fridge. I then set the ARB on "freeze" for an hour, and checked the wire by hand a couple of times during that hour to see if it was getting hot - nada. What kind of roof rack, and on which vehicle in your fleet? Craig "Gomes, David" wrote: > "...an un-switched heavy gauge positive for any possible > ancillaries like the cooler that Dave bought...." > > FYI, the installation instructions for the fridge ask for a 10 ga wire to > the power receptacle. I thought that was really silly, and a CYA, since the > thing never draws more than a couple of amps. I went with 12ga, which I > thought was still overkill, but it's easier to handle than 10 ga, and I > fused it with a 10 amp fuse at the battery, so the wire will never be the > limiting factor. No problems so far. [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 15:15:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJFck20472 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:15:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:15:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111915.g8BJFbr20468@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Craig, When I was doing the wiring for the dual ARB fridges in my cooking trailer I went to WranglerNW and talked to them at length about what I was doing. I have dual Optima Blue-tops mounted in one of the boxes with some of their bulkhead fittings getting the power into the trailer box itself. I can't remember what guage wire I went with, (it's been almost 3 months since I've looked at it, it's in storage in SLC), but the one thing I did do was to put a maxifuse rated for BOTH ARB's on full power. We hooked a multi-meter up to both fridges running simultaneously and fused it appropriately. I'm picking the trailer up on Friday and could send you some pics and specs next week if you wanted. FYI, I also just put in a 3-way cig. lighter from Radio Shack in the rear of the LWB. I didn't know it, but there is a constant hot that powers the rear amp. I tapped into it and ran the ARB fridge constantly for almost a week. No problems there either. The greatest thing about those fridges is the super low amp draw they have. Even the largest model on full power only pulls 8amps (I might be remembering wrong). The spike at startup for the compressor is quite large, but you guys sound like you know what you're doing. Medhi, I used a 7-way wire from a trailer shop for my cooking trailer. The manufacturer was Arctic-Flex and they also make a 5-way wire also. It's really nice wire, and insulated in a very thick rubber casing. If you're doing the whole truck you could go painless, but it sounds like you want ultra simple. Painless might be painless (not really), but it's also somewhat tedius to install. Good luck! Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Wed Sep 11 15:23:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJNIr20535 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111923.g8BJNHh20531@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Michael, I have the pic of the trailer you sent me a few months ago parked on my desktop so a can drool over it at will, and I'd love to see any more you've snapped. Craig Polla Slade wrote: > Craig, > > When I was doing the wiring for the dual ARB fridges in my cooking trailer I > went to WranglerNW and talked to them at length about what I was doing. > > I have dual Optima Blue-tops mounted in one of the boxes with some of their > bulkhead fittings getting the power into the trailer box itself. > > I can't remember what guage wire I went with, (it's been almost 3 months [ 35 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 15:23:24 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJNOf20550 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111923.g8BJNO920546@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Was looking through ancor's site (trying to see if I could find someone that carries their stuff at better prices than West Marine) and found some useful technical info on wire sizes/load etc (most of this is also in the West Marine electrical section). http://www.ancorproducts.com/technical.html Looks like many places carry their products, no idea if any of them have better prices. Shannon On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, at 09:11 AM, Clarke Williams wrote: > I wired my rear with full circuits to left-right turn and separate stop. > You might consider getting one of the encapsulated wiring convertors > for a > trailer and wire it into your harness with a female trailer jack for > towing. I strongly recommend adhesive-lined heat shrink crimp terminals > where needed. West Marine and others carry Ancor terminals and wire. From bens Wed Sep 11 15:23:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJNej20565 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:23:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111923.g8BJNee20561@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New 4.6 HSE Owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congrats on the new Kevin Kelly wrote: > After 6 months of car shopping I bought a new car tonight... > > In the last few months I've made offers on many cars including a D90, an M3, > a 328i Cabrio, and even a 740i. > > I ended up buying a 1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE from a neighbor. > > Any tips on things to do to a new late model Land Rover (with air bags > multiple coils and tons of other electronic stuff)... [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Congrats on the new purchase! Sounds great!! Cheers John From bens Wed Sep 11 15:26:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BJQZL20605 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:26:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209111926.g8BJQZF20601@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Max towing weight in high range for trailers with brakes is 5,500 lb, tongue weight 550 lbs. However you will find it pretty slow towing 5,000 lbs. Should be no problem for launching etc, you can tow 7,700 lbs in low range (with brakes). Cheers John Peter Ogilvie wrote: > Have been thinking of buying a trailerable sail boat > but would need a tow vehicle. Will a Classic Range > Rover tow a 5,000# boat on a quality, purpose built, > tandem axle trailer??? Assume it has a relatively > light tongue load as the tongue extends a long way > beyond the end of the boat. > > Would have to make an initial tow from Michigan to the > West Coast. After that, it would only be a few [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 16:53:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BKreu21238 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:53:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:53:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112053.g8BKreS21234@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: roof rack Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...What kind of roof rack, and on which vehicle in your fleet?..." Home built. 4ft x 6ft, 8 inches deep, 1-1/2" expanded metal floor. It's on the G right now, but will fit the rangie just as easily. The base right now is a set of 4 gutter-mount Thule bars I got cheap when USA cycling in the springs dumped them as a sponsor. Those will work on the rangie or the G, but not on the 109. No worries though, I'm planning to go topless with the 109 anyway, and not really use it for roof-rack-type-stuff anyway. The rack itself is welded from 16 ga. 1" square tube. I went with silver powder coat with a uv blocker clear coat on top, full 40 grit abrasive blast prep. It came out really nice. It has provisions for lights up front, with a sort of "brow bar" sticking out in front of the lights so they're fully protected from trees, garage doors, etc. I put some tie-down loops for gerry cans at the back, and bolts to mount the hi-lift on the side. I don't have any tools other than that, so I didn't know how to plan for other stuff and will have to use bolt-on mounting if I do things like max axe or pull pal down the road. I also used eight 3/8 eye bolts to fasten the rack to the bars, so the eyes of the bolts make additional tie-down points if hefty ones are required. but the 1-1/2" expanded metal floor is plenty strong enough, with big enough holes to pass a goodly sized strap-end hook for most general tie down purposes. One bonus of the powder coating was that it really smoothed out the sharp edges of the expanded metal. Overall, I'm very happy with how it turned out. I had thought about having it galvanized, but I didn't want to have it drilled with a bunch of drain holes, or risk it turning into a potato chip. So I just took as many precautions as possible to get the powder coating on there to stay. I'll post pictures in my bio on http://www.clubgwagen.com one of these days. The powder coating was by far the most expensive part of this thing. $275 for all the prep and 2-coat finish. Steel was roughly $75 total, and the Thule bars cost me $60, plus maybe $10 worth of hardware. That, and an afternoon of cutting and welding. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 11 17:22:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BLMgo21597 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112122.g8BLMgv21593@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: roof rack Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, Sounds great - let us know when the pics are up. I think the powdercoating will be fine - I've got some steel-and-glass doors on my house that got the full exterior powdercoating treatment, and they've been up about 2 years and still look like the day they were installed. Craig "Gomes, David" wrote: > "...What kind of roof rack, and on which vehicle in your fleet?..." > > Home built. 4ft x 6ft, 8 inches deep, 1-1/2" expanded metal floor. It's on > the G right now, but will fit the rangie just as easily. The base right now > is a set of 4 gutter-mount Thule bars I got cheap when USA cycling in the > springs dumped them as a sponsor. Those will work on the rangie or the G, > but not on the 109. No worries though, I'm planning to go topless with the > 109 anyway, and not really use it for roof-rack-type-stuff anyway. The rack > itself is welded from 16 ga. 1" square tube. I went with silver powder coat [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 11 17:45:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BLjkK21740 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:45:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:45:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112145.g8BLjk821736@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I used the Centech 10 fuse harness for generic 4x4's. Very happy with it. The wires are labeled same as a Painless kit, but I think it costs less than a similar Painless kit. I've never wired anything near to this in my life, but the Centech Unit made it, (I'll bet you thought I was going to say "easy") not bad at all. If I had any questions, I could call Centech and the OWNER would help out with any questions. Try that with Painless. Plenty of length and wire gauges are same or bigger than stock. I mounted my fuse box inside, on the passenger side next to where the heater hoses go up thru the "glove box".Used lots of small zip ties. Tell the owner what you want and he'll probably make a custom harness. www.centech.com eric >>> msandcdg@earthlink.net 09/11/02 10:19AM >>> Thanks folks. I am doing the whole truck. I had followed the list on the connector and was planning on getting some from west marine. I have to figure out where to put the fuse box as Rob mentioned. I think it will be under the hood. I will be including the tow wiring harness along with speakers and an un-switched heavy gauge positive for any possible ancillaries like the cooler that Dave bought or lights or what ever I might need in the back. I also am thinking about the wiper and defroster. Can you get the wires and put it on the glass, or do I need to fork out the money for an OEM one? Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 11 17:54:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BLs4g21802 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:54:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:54:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112154.g8BLs4K21798@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric Said<<< Try that with Painless. When I had a problem with Painless I ended up getting a VP invloved, and he solved my problem, and gave me a cost break because of my trouble with his technical support. -Rob From bens Wed Sep 11 18:38:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BMc8I21991 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:38:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:38:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112238.g8BMc7J21987@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Two Days Driving a Freelander Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Recently had the pleasure of driving a Freelander for two days as a loaner courtesy of Land Rover Marin. It is certainly a pleasant little vehicle to drive around, and gives a better ride than a Discovery Series 2 IMHO. Naturally I am appalled about it being called a Land Rover but I can see why they can sell them. I was interested in the gearing -- without a low range it seems they made 1st gear very low. It went up our steep driveway in 2nd without complaint, a thing my RR does not like, and was generally one gear higher than the RR on other hills (it's a 5 speed auto box). Interestingly also you can select D,4,2,1 but not 3. I did a cross axle test on a steep bank to get it "stuck" and found there is either no traction control or if there is it is silent in operation unlike on the RR. Cheers John From bens Wed Sep 11 19:28:59 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8BNSxE22229 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:28:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:28:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209112328.g8BNSx022225@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org O.K. so Painless will give good support, too. I just had questions, no problems. I went with centech 'cuz I could save a few bucks. I did buy the Painless crimp and heat connector kit. A good value for your wiring dollar. >>> Kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu 09/11/02 02:54PM >>> Eric Said<<< Try that with Painless. When I had a problem with Painless I ended up getting a VP invloved, and he solved my problem, and gave me a cost break because of my trouble with his technical support. -Rob From bens Wed Sep 11 20:53:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8C0r1x22638 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:53:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:53:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209120053.g8C0r0Z22634@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Santa Monica and Lunch? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I'm off to Santa Monica for the day on business, it's a last minute deal or I'd of posted earlier. I'll arrive LAX at 10:10 then lunch and a meeting at 1:30 and off to home at 4:45. Any one work / live in the Santa Monica area and want to have lunch? Email me and let me know the details. Cheers, Keith From bens Wed Sep 11 21:59:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8C1xTt22940 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:59:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:59:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209120159.g8C1xSn22936@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mahalo for the response. Aloha Peter O. --- John Brabyn wrote: > > Max towing weight in high range for trailers with > brakes is 5,500 lb, > tongue weight 550 lbs. However you will find it > pretty slow towing 5,000 > lbs. Should be no problem for launching etc, you can > tow 7,700 lbs in > low range (with brakes). > [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 11 22:06:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8C26kF22996 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:06:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:06:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209120206.g8C26k222992@minbar.fourfold.org> From: JohnBaudendistel@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Pismo Beach 9/13-15. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] [ 99 lines filtered. ] Hello: Additional lodging options: The below places are options for those whom are returning to Cambria for the= =20 Deck BBQ after 4 wheeling on Sat. =20 Cambria Pines Lodge. Morro Strand State Beach Campground. 12 Miles South of Cambria. San Simion State Park Campground. 12 Miles North of Cambria.=20 I am on the digest version, so send your replies for more information to=20 johnbaudendistel@aol.com ***************************************** Sent to the digest this evening: =20 Sorry for the late posting.=A0 Below is the information for NCRC members Pis= mo=20 Beach trip. Where:=A0 Pismo Beach and Cambria CA.=20 When:=A0 Sept. 13, 14, 15.=20 Directions to Pismo Beach: 101 South to Hwy 1 Doliver Street/Pismo Beach exit.=A0 Go straight through 4= =20 way stop. Continue up 5 lights to Pier Ave. Turn Right Take Pier Ave. up to the entrance booth. Cost $6.00/night for camping. Cost $4.00/day use fee. Host:=A0 John & Laurel Baudendistel.=A0 We have a little place on the centra= l=20 coast. It is 2 blocks from the vast Pacific Ocean with great views. =A0=20 1. Accommodations:=A0 We will provide space on a first come first serve basi= s.=A0=20 Most of the space has already been reserved. Inquire by sending an email to=20 johnbaudendistel@aol.com.=A0 I will be departing at 12Pm tomorrow.=A0=20 2.=A0 Alternative accomodations:=A0 Contact Cambria Vacation Rentals at=20 800-927-8200.=A0 They may be able assist you with a vacation home to stay in= =20 Cambria, CA 3.=A0 Camping:=A0 Contact Oceano State Park.=A0 805-473-7223.=A0 Space is on= a first=20 come first serve basis.=A0 They slow up considerably after Labor Day.=A0 Try= =20 their web site for more information.=A0 There are also other camping facilit= ies=20 in the area.=A0 =A0=A0=20 9/13:=A0 =A0 =A0 Fri:=A0=A0 Day:=A0 Arrivals at our place in Cambria, CA.= =A0 Most of the=20 available space has already been reserved.=A0 Inquire by sending an email to= =20 johnbaudendistel@aol.com 9/14:=A0 =A0 =A0 Sat:=A0=A0 Day:=A0 Depart Cambria 8:30am to Pismo beach arr= iving at the=20 gates at 9:30am.=A0 Others may meet up with us at the gate at 9:30-10:00AM.= =A0=20 Arrive in the morning at low tide to cross the river to get to the 4WD area.= =A0=20 A high tide crossing would be more difficult.=A0 I'll bring my pull pall for= =20 recoveries.=A0 If you have one bring it, as there are no trees.=A0 Bring a b= ag=20 lunch, beverages and something for the grill and your beverages for Sat pm.=20 9/14=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 Sat: Evening:=A0 6:00 PM drive back to Cambria, CA BBQ on= the deck.=A0=20 Location:=A0 401 Hastings Street, Cambria, CA=A0 93428.=A0 For those who mee= t on=20 Sat. at the gate you may follow us back for the BBQ.=A0 For specific directi= ons=20 you may email me at johnbaudendistel@aol.com.=A0 Or do a Yahoo Maps before y= ou=20 leave.=A0=20 9/15:=A0 =A0 =A0 Sun:=A0 AM.=A0 Open day.=A0 We will likely have breakfast o= n the deck or=20 go into Cambria for breakfast, TBD.=A0 Shopping is available in Cambria as w= ell=20 as ocean kayaking just up the road.=A0 Hearst Castle is just 15 miles north=20 from our home.=A0 If you want to tour Hearst Castle on Sunday make reservati= ons=20 ahead of time call 800-444-4445.=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=20 Directions:=A0 Caravan down to Cambria, CA.=A0 Best route is 101 S to 46 Wes= t to=20 Cambria.=A0 It is 3.5 hours door to door from Castro Valley.=A0 From the Sou= th=20 bay it will be much quicker.=A0 If one is leaving on Friday night get past S= .J.=20 before 3pm and you will make sunset in Cambria.=A0=20 Communications:=20 Cellular coverage is weak as you get closer to the coast.=A0=A0=20 Bay area # 510-538-8203. (Up until 9/12 at 12PM, then I'm heading to=20 Cambria).=20 My cell:=A0 510-861-2615.=20 CB:=A0 =A0 Those traveling monitor Channel # 7.=A0 We will already be there=20= on=20 Friday when guests begin to arrive.=20 Other:=A0 Vehicle inspections will be completed as well as NCRC waivers=20 required of all participants.=A0=20 General disclaimers apply.=A0 Each person is responsible for their own truck= =20 and equipment.=A0 Four wheel driving off-road can be hazardous and cause you= =20 and or your vehicle serious injury or damage.=A0 Attend at your own risk.= =A0=A0=20 John Baudendistel 96 Discovery From bens Thu Sep 12 00:22:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8C4MR224868 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 00:22:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 00:22:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209120422.g8C4MQC24864@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Tell the owner what you want and he'll > probably make a custom > harness. > > www.centech.com > > eric Will check them out tomorrow. Otherwise in painless VPs. Mehdi From bens Thu Sep 12 13:01:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8CH1mG29051 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:01:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:01:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209121701.g8CH1mI29047@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org www.centech.com are you sure these guys make the harness? Mehdi From bens Thu Sep 12 13:44:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8CHiks29296 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:44:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:44:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209121744.g8CHikF29292@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh, a conflict of domain names...Try this www.centechwire.com >>> msandcdg@earthlink.net 09/12/02 10:01AM >>> www.centech.com are you sure these guys make the harness? Mehdi From bens Thu Sep 12 16:17:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8CKHrY30426 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:17:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:17:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209122017.g8CKHq630422@minbar.fourfold.org> From: JohnBaudendistel@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Pismo beach Sept. 13,14,15. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] [ 95 lines filtered. ] This is re-posting of last nights mail which did not come out very well. =20 Hello: Below is the information for NCRC members Pismo Beach trip. Where:=A0 Pismo Beach and Cambria CA.=20 When:=A0 Sept. 13, 14, 15. 4 wheeling on Sat. 9/14 at 9:30am. =20 Directions to Pismo Beach: 101 South to Hwy 1 Doliver Street/Pismo Beach exit.=A0 Go straight through 4= =20 way stop. Continue up 5 lights to Pier Ave. Turn Right Take Pier Ave. up to the entrance booth. Cost $6.00/night for camping. Cost $4.00/day use fee. Host:=A0 John & Laurel Baudendistel.=A0 We have a little place on the centra= l=20 coast.=A0=20 1. Accommodations:=A0 We will provide space on a first come first serve basi= s.=A0=20 Most of the space has already been reserved. Inquire by sending an email to=20 johnbaudendistel@aol.com.=A0 I will be departing at 12Pm tomorrow.=A0=20 2.=A0 House accomodations:=A0 Contact Cambria Vacation Rentals at 800-927-82= 00.=A0=20 They may be able assist you with a vacation home to stay in Cambria, CA 3.=A0 Camping accomodations: Contact San Simeon State Park Campground, San=20 Simeon 805-927-2035. $7/night for primitive camping. Fri. night would be=20 1st come 1st serve. Currently they have 30-40 sites available. 2 vehicles=20 per site, up to 8 persons. Reserve Sat. by today at 800-444-7275. This=20 location will be 3 miles from where the BBQ will be in Cambria on Sat.=20 evening.=20 4. Oceano State Park.=A0 805-473-7223.=A0 Space is on a first come first se= rve=20 basis.=A0 They slow up considerably after Labor Day.=A0 Try their web site f= or=20 more information.=A0 There are also other camping facilities in the area. T= his=20 is a long distance from where the gathering will be in Cambria on Sat.=20 evening. =A0 =A0=A0=20 9/13:=A0 =A0 =A0 Fri:=A0=A0 Day:=A0 Arrivals at our place in Cambria, CA.= =A0 Most of the=20 available space has already been reserved.=A0 Inquire by sending an email to= =20 johnbaudendistel@aol.com 9/14:=A0 =A0 =A0 Sat:=A0=A0 Day:=A0 Depart Cambria 8:30am to Pismo beach arr= iving at the=20 gates at 9:30am.=A0 Others may meet up with us at the gate at 9:30-10:00AM.= =A0=20 Arrive in the morning at low tide to cross the river to get to the 4WD area.= =A0=20 A high tide crossing would be more difficult.=A0 I'll bring my pull pall for= =20 recoveries.=A0 If you have one bring it, as there are no trees.=A0 Bring a b= ag=20 lunch, beverages and something for the grill and your beverages for Sat pm.=20 9/14=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 Sat: Evening:=A0 6:00 PM drive back to Cambria, CA BBQ on= the deck.=A0=20 Location:=A0 401 Hastings Street, Cambria, CA=A0 93428.=A0 For those who mee= t on=20 Sat. at the gate you may follow us back for the BBQ.=A0 For specific directi= ons=20 you may email me at johnbaudendistel@aol.com.=A0 Or do a Yahoo Maps before y= ou=20 leave.=A0=20 9/15:=A0 =A0 =A0 Sun:=A0 AM.=A0 Open day.=A0 We will likely have breakfast o= n the deck or=20 go into Cambria for breakfast, TBD.=A0 Shopping is available in Cambria as w= ell=20 as ocean kayaking just up the road.=A0 Hearst Castle is just 15 miles north=20 from our home.=A0 If you want to tour Hearst Castle on Sunday make reservati= ons=20 ahead of time call 800-444-4445.=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=20 Directions:=A0 Caravan down to Cambria, CA.=A0 Best route is 101 S to 46 Wes= t to=20 Cambria.=A0 It is 3.5 hours door to door from Castro Valley.=A0 From the Sou= th=20 bay it will be much quicker.=A0 If one is leaving on Friday night get past S= .J.=20 before 3pm and you will make sunset in Cambria.=A0=20 Communications:=20 Cellular coverage is weak as you get closer to the coast.=A0=A0=20 Bay area # 510-538-8203. (Up until 9/12 at 12PM, then I'm heading to=20 Cambria).=20 My cell:=A0 510-861-2615.=20 CB:=A0 =A0 Those traveling monitor Channel # 7.=A0 We will already be there=20= on=20 Friday when guests begin to arrive.=20 email: johnbaudendistel@aol.com Other:=A0 Vehicle inspections will be completed as well as NCRC waivers=20 required of all participants.=A0=20 General disclaimers apply.=A0 Each person is responsible for their own truck= =20 and equipment.=A0 Four wheel driving off-road can be hazardous and cause you= =20 and or your vehicle serious injury or damage.=A0 Attend at your own risk.= =A0=A0=20 John Baudendistel 96 Discovery From bens Thu Sep 12 20:09:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D094w31699 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:09:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:09:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130009.g8D094531695@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: MSRP's needed for insurance Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey guys, I am having to find the MSRP's for the vehicles I own to get them licensed and insured in Nevada. Any suggestions on where I can go to find LOW ones (for taxation purposes and insurance premiums) would be appreciated. FYI, I need the following: 1994 RR LWB 1953 S1 1966 SIIa Thanks! Michael PS I'm still debating on how to insure the Serious One and the crewcab. Do I do a stated value and have them appraised or do I just set a 'reasonable' value on them and go with it? No bank leins on any vehicles, so I will only get collision (at least I think that's what I'll get....) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Thu Sep 12 21:13:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D1DD131975 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:13:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:13:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130113.g8D1DDS31971@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Eric. I checked them out. They were not any cheaper. I went with the painless Universal, 18 circuit harness for $290 with shipping and handelling. I guess, I will get the VP number from Rob, or just call Rob. Mehdi On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:44:46 -0400 Eric Johnson wrote: > > Oh, a conflict of domain names...Try this > www.centechwire.com > > >>> msandcdg@earthlink.net 09/12/02 10:01AM >>> > > > > www.centech.com [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 12 22:24:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D2O0D32343 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:24:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:24:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130224.g8D2O0O32339@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: MSRP's needed for insurance Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mike, > PS I'm still debating on how to insure the Serious One and the crewcab. Do > I do a stated value and have them appraised or do I just set a 'reasonable' > value on them and go with it? No bank leins on any vehicles, so I will only > get collision (at least I think that's what I'll get....) No, you mean liability is what you'll get. Serious One, certainly, and probably also the '66 IIA would be eligible for classic car insurance. It's cheap and includes comprehensive & collision, as well as liability. There are supposed restrictions about how you use the vehicle but that might not be a problem for you. Check it out (should be ads in Hemmings). Granny From bens Thu Sep 12 22:34:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D2YcT32388 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:34:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:34:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130234.g8D2YbU32384@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, Personally I think you only need the 12 circuit harness. I have done two of the 18 wire, and for the Serious One I should have only done the 12. For the crewcab I did the 18 wire also, but I will have tons of extra circuits I have to terminate. Good luck! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Thu Sep 12 23:18:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D3I4T32586 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:18:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:18:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130318.g8D3I4Z32582@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks, Summit is too efficient. It is on its way here already!! Would you return it and get the 12? Mehdi From bens Fri Sep 13 00:07:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D471i00448 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:07:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:07:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130407.g8D471300444@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: double sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At about 1830hrs, I was heading eastbound on 580 in Richmond in the 110. First a D110 that looked alot like mine (no roof rack, no grill guard) went the other direction. Then about 2 min later a 5-door IIA 109 (sage green bottom/limestone top) with a work lamp on the rear (and something big in the back) went by as well. Now that I think of it, the day or two before, about the same time on the same stretch of road, I saw a marine blue/limstone 88 go the other way. Surprise sightings always a good thing. Cheers. From bens Fri Sep 13 00:52:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D4qGR01830 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:52:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:52:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130452.g8D4qFw01826@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Santa Monica Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, My co-worker and I were riding down Lincoln Ave in Santa Monica and couldn't believe all the British cars for sale! One shop had a nice Bugeye another had a TR3 for $6900 that wasn't too bad. I saw a MGA hard top and Marina Motors had a whole assortment of Series Land Rovers. The was a repair place that had an Discovery XD and lot of newer Land Rovers. I wish I had time to stop but I had to get back for a Scout Meeting at 6:45 p.m. On the return trip to the airport I saw a Series 88 in blue with a white hard top. The 88 was on an over pass and I couldn't see enough to tell the year and model. I'm headed down to Pat Young's tomorrow with my dad to drop off the Dormie engine and transmission. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Fri Sep 13 00:59:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D4xUf01872 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:59:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:59:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130459.g8D4xUr01868@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More Santa Monica Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh and I saw that irritating 14 year old kid from the Man Show. They were taping a scene near the Santa Monica Mall. I asked the guy behind the camera "how old is that kid anyway? Don't ya think it's a little over the top? Good show but drop the kid." He's a real brat in person too. Cheers, Keith From bens Fri Sep 13 02:35:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D6ZoZ02219 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 02:35:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 02:35:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130635.g8D6ZoI02215@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: double sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Blair Peterson wrote: > Now that I think of it, the day or two before, about the > same time on the same stretch of road, I saw a marine > blue/limstone 88 go the other way. Surprise sightings > always a good thing. Well...if you see a manky old Disco heading past you, don'yt be surprised...I'm heading back up north, this time to Novato to drag home a '80 vanagon westfalia I nabbed for Joe Ernests fleet! ;-) Yeah! rovers aren't enough, this makes the third westfalia..... IF we can't get it running, i'll be towing (I'm agonna really try to get it running!!!! ;-0 Don' wanna be a-towin' wiht The Lite Brigade!! Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 13 03:25:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8D7P0o02535 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 03:25:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 03:25:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209130725.g8D7P0Z02531@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: double sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, That SG bumber & tow hitch prolly isn't set up for towing, just for that winch thing! IE: the strength is there, but the pin is different TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:35 PM Subject: Re: double sighting > > > --- Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Now that I think of it, the day or two before, about the > > same time on the same stretch of road, I saw a marine > > blue/limstone 88 go the other way. Surprise sightings > > always a good thing. > Well...if you see a manky old Disco heading past you, [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 13 08:23:59 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8DCNxa03818 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:23:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:23:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209131223.g8DCNxo03814@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: " mendo rec list" Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All this talk of making do with various generic harnesses. Am I the only one who creates a circuit diagram for my vehicle with all the parts to be installed then creates a harness that fits properly for the electical items I actually have using a bunch of stripped wires and the Lucas colour code? It is not a hard thing to do and future troubleshooting is ever so much easier if you know which colour wire goes where. As would ANY mechanic who knows the Lucas wire colour code. There is a lot to be said about simplicity on a simple car. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Fri Sep 13 09:09:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8DD9NH04230 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:09:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:09:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209131309.g8DD9Nf04226@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: wiring harness Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, I went with the 12 circuit Bronco/scout/landcruiser harness, figuring the Land-Rover wouldn't be that different. It wasn't. I still have extra circuits. The only this I had to do different was the left and right turn signals, because the wiring goes down the right fender, and I assume the Broncos went down the left fender, so the longer light and turn signal wires were opposite for me. -Rob From bens Fri Sep 13 09:22:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8DDMrY04295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:22:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:22:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209131322.g8DDMqr04291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: LRDino@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #846 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey John, Have to pass on Pismo but, hopefully can hookup with NCRC next Friday at the Albatross. Thanks, Dino G 95 Disco 1 From bens Fri Sep 13 20:08:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8E08Hl07772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:08:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:08:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209140008.g8E08Hx07768@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, Are those who switched to T-Mobile happy with service, reception, etc.? I have AT&T and I have to re-do my plan because last year promo just expired. I'm not dissatisfied with AT&T, but T-mobile on paper looks good. Frank From bens Fri Sep 13 23:15:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8E3FME08555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:15:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:15:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209140315.g8E3FMX08551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org seems fine in Davis. Not well publicized point is that T-mobile is using Cingular apparatus, so coverage should be the same. Also not publicized is the $25 activation fee. But it was on the paper I signed and I should have asked, since I had read that some places have them. cheers, >Hi, > >Are those who switched to T-Mobile happy with service, reception, etc.? > I have AT&T and I have to re-do my plan because last year promo just >expired. I'm not dissatisfied with AT&T, but T-mobile on paper looks good. > >Frank John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista, 2001 Merlin Extra Fat 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Fri Sep 13 23:31:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8E3VNk08631 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:31:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:31:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209140331.g8E3VNm08627@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Santa Monica Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 14 lines filtered. ] Keith writes: > Marina Motors had a whole assortment of Series Land > Rovers That's Pete Petrova's shop, a true craftsman for automotive stuff. Friends of ours have a 1973 SIIa 88 Land Rover he had restored and it is a first rate job ($$$ though) down to the galvanized bulkhead. He customizes them too. Karen Sindir '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros '95 Disco EFE From bens Sun Sep 15 23:42:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G3gSR24487 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:42:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:42:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160342.g8G3gS924483@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A friend told me today that the Costco in San Ramon is selling Optima Batteries. He said the Red tops are $103 (about $30 less than I have ever seen them sell for). Another friend said that as of last week the Foster City Costco didn't have the Optimas yet. Has anyone seen the Optimas at a Costco closer (to San Francisco) than San Ramon? Has anyone used one of the cigarette lighter plugs that connects to a 9V transistor radio battery so you won't have to reprogram radio settings when changing a battery? Is there anything special I need to know when changing the battery on a Range Rover P38 (I don't want to pull the battery and somehow arm the alarm)? Kevin From bens Mon Sep 16 00:17:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G4HhD25865 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:17:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:17:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160417.g8G4HgZ25861@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I saw them in the Kona Costco a couple of weeks ago. Both colors. Somehow I doubt that that is any closer than San Ramon, however. What's does the difference in the color of the top mean?? Aloha Peter O. --- Kevin Kelly wrote: > > A friend told me today that the Costco in San Ramon > is selling Optima > Batteries. He said the Red tops are $103 (about $30 > less than I have ever > seen them sell for). Another friend said that as of > last week the Foster > City Costco didn't have the Optimas yet. Has anyone > seen the Optimas at a [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 16 00:27:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G4Rqi25934 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:27:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:27:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160427.g8G4Rpv25930@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone seen the yellow tops and for how much? Jon From bens Mon Sep 16 00:30:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G4Up425996 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:30:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:30:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160430.g8G4Uo025992@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blue and Yellow are deep cycle, Red is a starting battery. There's also a blue-top non-marine, just to make it interesting/.confusing. The blues both have an extra (small) negative and positive top post for hooking up extra stuff. Some people say you should'nt mix colors in dual-battery setups (battery racists?) but Optima told me it's ok. Opinions vary - as I'm sure we'll see. Craig Peter Ogilvie wrote: > I saw them in the Kona Costco a couple of weeks ago. > Both colors. Somehow I doubt that that is any closer > than San Ramon, however. > > What's does the difference in the color of the top > mean?? > > Aloha > Peter O. [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 16 00:48:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G4mep26264 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:48:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:48:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160448.g8G4mdt26259@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org nothing other than 2 extra connectors sticking out of the battery, pure marketing genius my 2 centavos, fil - blue top on the rangie i'll look at costco in fremont and foster city and see if they sell optimas btw - saw what looked like an older model D90 - euro specs around Placerville/El Dorado Hills area last friday, it has a blue top, 3 dr Tdi, i can smell the diesel but could not find the owner > >Peter Ogilvie wrote: > > > I saw them in the Kona Costco a couple of weeks ago. > > Both colors. Somehow I doubt that that is any closer > > than San Ramon, however. > > > > What's does the difference in the color of the top > > mean?? [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Mon Sep 16 05:45:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8G9jRX27772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:45:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:45:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209160945.g8G9jRW27768@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Th & S Bennett" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #848 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 35 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Help! Anyone had experience using Series 3 bits in a 1970 Series 2a 109? = What mechanical spares and ancillaries mustn't we share between our S2a = and our S3? We have a pile of spares for our S3 SWB, but precious little = for our 2a LWB. Apart from the obvious body bits - and the problems of = mixing Salisbury and Solihull thingys, is there a prejudice against = retrofiting S3 bits into a S2a? Also, does our Solihull 'Plus 35' mesh grille badge indicate increased = percentage rear axle tensile strength of 35%? Solange S2a 109 Limestone Safari SW, S3 Green HT Ute From bens Mon Sep 16 10:08:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8GE8ZB29110 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:08:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:08:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209161408.g8GE8ZN29106@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > What's does the difference in the color of the top > > mean?? > nothing other than 2 extra connectors sticking out of the battery, pure > marketing genius > my 2 centavos, > Blue and Yellow are deep cycle, Red is a starting > battery. There's also > a blue-top non-marine, just to make it > interesting/.confusing. The blues > both have an extra (small) negative and positive top > post for hooking up > extra stuff. Red tops are starting batteries, they have 750 Cold Cranking Amps. Battery has top post and side female 3/8 course threaded terminals. Yellow tops are a deep cycle battery with 550 CCA. Battery has same terminals as the Reds. Blues are all marine batteries, one is a deep cycle with 550CCA the other is a starting battery with 750CCA. Blues have a standard top post and a top mounted male 5/16" course threaded post. Starting batteries are just that, higher CCA to help start a vehicle. Deep cycle batteries are designed to be used in situations where they could get run down to empty and then recharged, like winching or a trolling motor. Marine batteries are designed to sit for long periods between use with out needing to be on a trickle charger. If you are looking for Optimas and you know someone in the military ask them to look in the exchange or at the auto shop for you. I got my red tops for 89.99 each. HTH Pete From bens Mon Sep 16 11:52:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8GFqih30065 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:52:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:52:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209161552.g8GFqij30061@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Optima Batteries at Costco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, if you put any stock in Consumer Report magazine, they rated the Die-Hard as good as or better than the Optima. Prolly 'cuz you can buy the Die-Hard for less than Optima.....until now. The above is second-hand info.-disclaimers apply. >>> kkelly6788@earthlink.net 09/15/02 08:42PM >>> A friend told me today that the Costco in San Ramon is selling Optima Batteries. He said the Red tops are $103 (about $30 less than I have ever seen them sell for). Another friend said that as of last week the Foster City Costco didn't have the Optimas yet. Has anyone seen the Optimas at a Costco closer (to San Francisco) than San Ramon? Has anyone used one of the cigarette lighter plugs that connects to a 9V transistor radio battery so you won't have to reprogram radio settings when changing a battery? Is there anything special I need to know when changing the battery on a Range Rover P38 (I don't want to pull the battery and somehow arm the alarm)? Kevin From bens Mon Sep 16 12:31:21 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8GGVLM30345 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:31:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:31:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209161631.g8GGVLP30341@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Spotted Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Me. I was driving Regent in town(Davis) and while waiting at the Richards Ave stop light(before going under the RR tracks into downtown) a guy in a Je*p Cherokee started staring at me from the gas station. He grabbed his camera and I waived. -Rob From bens Mon Sep 16 16:12:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8GKCrY31979 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:12:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:12:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209162012.g8GKCrE31975@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just wanted to say the Pismo trip this weekend was excelent! We all had a blast! I'd like to thank John & Laurel for hosting it! A bunch of folks have some great pics which may end up on the NCRC web site in a bit! TomW From bens Mon Sep 16 16:24:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8GKOdH32067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:24:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:24:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209162024.g8GKOdt32063@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am bummed that I missed it! I guess I've gone virtual this year. :( Thanks John & Laurel for putting the event together. -->Jeff on 9/16/02 1:12 PM, Tom Walsh at tomw@fluentnet.com wrote: > > Just wanted to say the Pismo trip this weekend was excelent! We all had a > blast! I'd like to thank John & Laurel for hosting it! A bunch of folks have > some great pics which may end up on the NCRC web site in a bit! > > TomW > From bens Mon Sep 16 20:14:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H0E9I00834 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:14:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:14:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170014.g8H0E9f00830@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "jcsf" To: Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org hi, frank, i have recently switched from verizon to t-mobile and am only fairly satisfied. reception is not a good as verizon, i.e., there are a lot of places (including certain places in my home) where i don't get a signal (i live it sf) and it's been pretty frustrating. and there were a couple instances when voicemail msgs were delivered 24-48 hrs after the fact. the primary reason i chose tmobile is that i wanted a phone with a sim card/gsm phone and a service that i cld use abroad. but the monthly plans are pretty cheap and my phone is really cool. everything's a trade off ... hope that helps! jeanne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jeanne chung 415.812.4864 (415.81.CHUNG) jeanne@alum.mit.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bens Mon Sep 16 20:43:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H0hH900962 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:43:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:43:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170043.g8H0hH900958@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- jcsf wrote: > > hi, frank, > i have recently switched from verizon to t-mobile and am > only fairly > satisfied. reception is not a good as verizon, i.e., > there are a lot of > places (including certain places in my home) where i > don't get a signal (i > live it sf) and it's been pretty frustrating. and there [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Interesting!! Yet another reason I think I will not only stick with Verizon as they have reception EVERYWHERE(well almost....deff. better than anything else available) and keep my for yar-old phone as I hae found teh new feature packed phones don't have the reception of the older ones!! ;-0 Someone explain that to me!(besides I don't need video games on my cell phone, or calculator, etc..that is what the PDA is for!) ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 16 21:56:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H1uCd01298 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:56:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:56:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170156.g8H1uCg01294@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Marketing" To: Subject: New Free Website - Autocolorlibrary.com Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 98 lines filtered. ] This is a multipart MIME message. --= Multipart Boundary 0916021856 charset="ISO-8859-1" Welcome to the AutoColorLibrary - the web's most complete source of automotive color standards available online today. AutoColorLibrary.com is a new free reference site containing thousands of original paint manufacturers color chip cards and standards that date back to the pre-1920's. The site contains the webs only color search engine designed to quickly display color chip cards, factory paint codes and paint specifications for most domestic and imported automobiles. To access this new free site, just click the link below or HERE and you'll be viewing colors unseen for many decades. Remember to bookmark AutoColorLibrary.com for all of your future color reference needs. By the way, we also have factory standards and formulas to make most any color you find in the AutoColorLibrary.com in all modern PPG automotive finishes as well as the old stand-by acrylic lacquer. If this email has reached you in error, simply click HERE to send a reply email with the word remove in the subject line and we will promply remove you from our email list. --= Multipart Boundary 0916021856 From bens Mon Sep 16 22:08:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H28iN01355 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:08:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:08:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170208.g8H28iu01351@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: need Recomendation for battery charger Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I need a new battery charger as mine died. Sears has some that have different settings for Gell, and flooded? What would be different. Napa has some nice ones with cool NASCAR stickers on them. What should I look for. -Rob From bens Tue Sep 17 01:20:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H5KW703721 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:20:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:20:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170520.g8H5KWp03717@minbar.fourfold.org> From: JohnBaudendistel@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: need Recomendation for battery charger Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] Rob: Gell setting is for gel cells, lead setting for lead batteries. There are also AGM batteries. Algamatted Glass Matt. I would go for the dual setting charger just in case you later run gels. John B. From bens Tue Sep 17 01:24:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H5OqW03760 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:24:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:24:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170524.g8H5OqQ03756@minbar.fourfold.org> From: JohnBaudendistel@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] Tom: We were glad you could make it. A blast was had by all. It sure was a roughing it trip. It was great wheeling with ya. John B. From bens Tue Sep 17 01:53:10 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H5rAc03930 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:53:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:53:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170553.g8H5rAM03926@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: cell phone reception NO LR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, Something to consider is that phone manufacturers may be tweaking antenna designs and amplifier strengths to create a more favorable SAR rating. SAR stands for Specific Absorbtion Rate - an interesting radiation measurement system. Search "cell phone SAR" or "cell phone radiation" for lots of reading, phone ratings and debate. Joe Mulqueen (unemployed wireless process engineer) (also owns Plantronics shares) '67 SIIA 109 SW .....I hae found teh new feature packed phones don't have the reception of the older ones!! ;-0 Someone explain that to me....... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 17 03:07:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H77Eu04207 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:07:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:07:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170707.g8H77Df04203@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: No LR Content: Mercedes 190SL For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello all: I'm selling my 1961 190SL. Please forward the link below to anyone you think might be interested. I'm happy to answer questions off-list. See: http://showroom.automallcity.com/search.php?dd=showroom.automallcity.com:aut o:SRC813 Thanks! -->Jeff jeffrogers@earthlink.net (408)292-9912 From bens Tue Sep 17 03:21:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H7L0w04424 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:21:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:21:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170721.g8H7L0004420@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: No LR Content: Mercedes 190SL For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I'm selling my 1961 190SL. Please forward the link below to anyone you think >might be interested. I'm happy to answer questions off-list. See: > Hi Jeff, Talk to me. What's the deal? Gerry From bens Tue Sep 17 03:50:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H7o4H04656 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:50:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:50:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170750.g8H7o3x04652@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: No LR Content: Mercedes 190SL For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org really, let us know how much? TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Mugele" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:21 AM Subject: Re: No LR Content: Mercedes 190SL For Sale > > >I'm selling my 1961 190SL. Please forward the link below to anyone you think > >might be interested. I'm happy to answer questions off-list. See: > > > > Hi Jeff, > > Talk to me. What's the deal? > > Gerry > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 17 03:53:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8H7rm704688 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:53:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:53:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209170753.g8H7rll04684@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: No LR Content: Mercedes 190SL For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 3:21 AM -0400 9/17/02, G. Mugele wrote: >Hi Jeff, > >Talk to me. What's the deal? > >Gerry Ooops.... the MewGull auto "Reply Button Filter" was inadvertently left disengaged. Sorry all. From bens Tue Sep 17 11:15:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HFFdh06945 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:15:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171515.g8HFFdR06941@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Riston" To: Subject: A rover owner needs help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Help One of my Range Rover Customers is Broken down at a Hotel in Yreka, California. He has a bad Water Pump can anyone help him with a good shop? Please contact him at cell # 408 472 6304 his name is Jim Johnson. Thanks Eric (a good idea of were this town is about 60 miles north of lake shasta 40 miles south of ashland ,Oregon on I5) (Or the Hotel ph#530 842 1612 days inn) Eric Riston 1 800 533 2210 x 231 Land Rover Club Contact and Senior Retail Sales Rep. for Atlantic British From bens Tue Sep 17 12:43:21 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HGhL907439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:43:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:43:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171643.g8HGhLL07435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: need Recomendation for battery charger Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gel type batteries have the electrolyte fixed as a gel to help prevent dehydration.  The battery chemistry is slightly different than classic "flooded" lead-acid batteries and the charging voltages are slightly higher (about .3 volt). 

AGM batteries (aka "Absorbed Glass Mat" and/or "valve regulated") capture the electrolyte in fiberglass matting between the lead plates.  The lead used in an AGM batteries is a different alloy than that used in flooded batteries.  Gels and AGM batteries have lower internal resistance than flooded batteries, the plates are generally thinner and they can provide greater surges of current (such as for starting an engine) and accept larger charging currents resulting in shorter charge times for a deeply discharged battery.  Low internal resistance also means they don't "self-discharge" as easily and can be stored  for longer periods without losing their charge.  Very good for seasonal use vehicles.  Their charging voltages are also about .3 volt higher than a flooded type lead-acid battery.

Get at least a 2-stage charger,  Better yet is a 3-stage.  Batteries have different voltage and current requirements as they go from a state of complete discharge to fully charged.  First stage is rising voltage at roughly constant current -- this is the "bulk charge" step and most of the battery capacity is regained during this step.  The Second stage  begins the instant the battery reaches it's maximum charged voltage and current through the battery begins to decline.down to 2-5% of the rated amp-hour capacity of the battery -- this is the "absorption phase".  The third stage is the "float" phase.  Once the battery is fully charged the applied  voltage should be reduced to a lower voltage to maintain the battery at full charge without overcharging the battery.  This voltage is typically between 13.4 and 13.8 volts depending upon the battery type (flooded, gel or AGM) and battery age.

Note that in order to determine when a battery is truly fully charged you must measure battery charging current.  No battery charger on the market measures battery charging current.  The bulk phase is always implemented in a high current battery charger;  "trickle" chargers are typically fixed at the float voltage.

The voltages mentioned above only apply to batteries at 77 F.  At higher temperatures the voltages are lower; colder temperatures can require much higher temperatures.  Virtually all automotive alternator regulators overcharge your battery in summer and undercharge in winter.

A good online primer for 12 volt systems, batteries, and charging regimes can be found at Ample Power's website http://www.amplepower.com.  The charging section is at

http://www.amplepower.com/primer/full/index.html

regards,
clarke


Clarke Williams <clarkewilliams@halcyon.com>
541-266-0300 voice From bens Tue Sep 17 13:49:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HHnWu08199 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:49:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:49:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171749.g8HHnW208195@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Help - I want to get a custom dash plate fabricated for the center dash panel fabricated for my Defender - kind of like this http://www.d-90.com/mod/switches.jpg Any hints on where I should go or what category I should look under in the yellow pages? I want to find someplace in the Livermore Valley, preferably. Thanks, Jon Jon Turner '01 RR 4.6 HSE '93 NAS 110 412/500 From bens Tue Sep 17 14:15:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HIFEF08428 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:15:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171815.g8HIFEZ08424@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org rolling thunder in san rafael. good recs from me and Bruce B. take them a picture, describe what you want and they'll do it right the first time, better than you thought. Oh, it does cost money to have pros do the work instead of some teenager who once installed his own stereo and thinks he's an expert. cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Sep 17 14:21:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HILuT08503 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:21:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:21:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171821.g8HILuC08499@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org home depot and your garage? >Help - I want to get a custom dash plate fabricated for the center dash >panel fabricated for my Defender - kind of like this >http://www.d-90.com/mod/switches.jpg Any hints on where I should go or >what category I should look under in the yellow pages? I want to find >someplace in the Livermore Valley, preferably. From bens Tue Sep 17 14:22:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HIMKw08518 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:22:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:22:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171822.g8HIMKa08514@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 88 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" John - will they do just the metal plate? I'll mount the switches, etc. Just need the right size plate with the right size holes. Jon From bens Tue Sep 17 14:25:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HIPkJ08553 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:25:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:25:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171825.g8HIPjI08549@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jon, When I am looking for fab. work I usually go to either the hot rod places or the auto restoration places. Typically the 4wheel places do work that is a little 'rougher' than I would like, and the hot rodders usually take it up a notch or two with the finish quality. This is when I've been away from my regular fabrication guys (who do top notch work). You could also call these guys: www.bcboffroad.com They're working on my crewcab right now. later, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Tue Sep 17 15:16:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HJGC908835 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:16:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:16:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171916.g8HJGC608831@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Help - I want to get a custom dash plate fabricated for the center dash > panel fabricated for my Defender - kind of like this > http://www.d-90.com/mod/switches.jpg That looks like an oval shaped piece of sheet metal with a couple holes drilled on it. It doesn't look very large. My local lowes and home depots sell 12x12 pieces of metal and aluminum sheet. Looking at the image it looks like you could get 2-3 out of one piece, so you can make a mistake. Get a pair of tin snips, a 1/8 bit, a 1/4 bit, a uni-bit, a fine file, and an electric drill. Thats about it. Make template out of paper or shoebox cardboard. Ensure the template is exactly right. Trace the pattern onto the sheet. Cut with the tin snips. Use the file to smooth. Drill holes as needed. Pete From bens Tue Sep 17 15:44:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HJi2T09149 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:44:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:44:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209171944.g8HJi2r09145@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 105 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Pete - I've been looking but I could find the right aluminum stock at Home Depot, just sheet metal (which I think is a bit too thin). And I don't think I'll be able to do the radius accurately enough to enjoy looking at it on my dash day after day. Jon From bens Tue Sep 17 16:32:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HKWIe09436 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:32:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:32:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209172032.g8HKWHq09432@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Orchard Supply has a bunch of steel and aluminum stock (I bought stuff there when I made the overhead rail to hold my radio). The outer radius would certainly need to be the best finished part and the hardest to do. I would think that if you we're careful with measuring the radius on the ends (and using a protractor to accurately create the template you could probably get very close). Worst case, try it yourself, if it doesn't work, then go to a custom shop! Just think, you could sell them on the internet and make millions! Shannon On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Turner, Jon [LFS] wrote: > Pete - I've been looking but I could find the right aluminum stock at > Home > Depot, just sheet metal (which I think is a bit too thin). And I don't > think I'll be able to do the radius accurately enough to enjoy looking > at it > on my dash day after day. From bens Tue Sep 17 17:41:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HLfDD09968 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:41:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:41:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209172141.g8HLfCA09964@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Pete - I've been looking but I could find the right aluminum stock at Home > Depot, just sheet metal (which I think is a bit too thin). And I don't > think I'll be able to do the radius accurately enough to enjoy looking at it > on my dash day after day. Believe it or not, it's not too hard. I use a dual steel pointed divider to scribe the circle. Snip right up close to the line and finish with a file. I made a plate with the same shape to hold six 2" gauges. I used 18gauge steel for the plate. After I had the design marked out it took about 30 minutes to make. The hardest part is to get the straight sides straight. As Micheal mentioned, a hotrod shop should be able to help you out. Either do it or tell who in the area can do it. Pete From bens Tue Sep 17 18:10:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8HMADr10187 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:10:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:10:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200209172210.g8HMADf10183@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The club membership / resources directory has the contact information for Magnumforce Race Car Fabrication. Try them. I use this shop for projects like this and they are great. If you decide to cut the piece yourself, consider wrapping the piece with vinyl instead of powder coating or crikle-finish spray paint. The vinyl will hide minor blemishes and slight imperfections in the cut. -->Jeff on 9/17/02 12:44 PM, Turner, Jon [LFS] at JTurner4@LFSUS.JNJ.com wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ Included Original Message ] > [ 105 lines filtered. ] > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > charset="iso-8859-1" > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 17 20:54:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I0shZ10994 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:54:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:54:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180054.g8I0shh10990@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: A rover owner needs help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry, I don't have time to call him but there is a shop in Redding that does some work on land rovers Oasis Auto repair 2405 Athens ave Redding, 96001 530-246-1664 Later Aidan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Riston" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: A rover owner needs help From bens Tue Sep 17 21:00:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I10bN11041 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:00:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:00:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180100.g8I10bL11037@minbar.fourfold.org> From: LRDino@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #848 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Seen some Optima battery, red top, at Costco Rancho Cordova. Dino G 95 5 Speed Disco PS Rocklin Land Rover has 95 Softop yellow D-90 w/winch, 108,000 miles asking $29,000.00. They installed new tranny. From bens Tue Sep 17 21:13:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I1Dta11108 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:13:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:13:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180113.g8I1Dtd11104@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Pub?!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org hi all, is the pub meet this friday - beer/engish boy, excellent combination!!!! is anyone driving up from my neck of the woods (mountain view)??, if so any chance of a lift? - i have no idear where this place is!!!!!!!!! cheers all - Tim _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Tue Sep 17 21:34:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I1Ya011245 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:34:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:34:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180134.g8I1YZB11241@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Scott Bronson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Range Rover Seat Switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys. My first Mendo message was about seat switches (back in 1997?), so it's fitting that this subject should mark my return... Last I heard, the going theory as to why identical seat switches die so much earlier in Range Rovers than Mercedes vehicles is Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. Another theory is that they are mounted horizontal next to the seat, rather than vertical in the door. Supposedly this is a much dirtier environment. Can't argue with the first one, but I disagree with the second. Instead, I think that Land Rover is using different motors to power the switches than Mercedes (can anyone confirm this?), and that the Land Rover motors have a much higher inductance. Parentheses: inductance is the tendency for electrical current to try to avoid change. You usually find it when wires are coiled, like in an electrical motor. Current can't start flowing immediately through a high-inductance device. Rather, it ramps up over a fraction of a second as a magnetic field forms. The problem comes when you disconnect the power and magnetic field collapses. The energy stored in the magnetic field has nowhere to go, so the voltage starts climbing until the engergy can be dissipated. If it climbs to a few thousand volts (not hard with sufficient induction), it will spark across the switch contancts and cause corrosion. Incidentally, this is how older ignitions generate the high voltage to fire the spark plugs. Ever cleaned points? It's the same thing. I was playing around with my opened seat switch yesterday and I saw a lot of arcing when I'd break the circuit. My findings: each motor appears to draw <10A inrush, <5A continuous, with a monster surge when the power is cut. This explains why the contacts often look charred when you open up a seat switch to repair it. OK, if that is indeed the problem, then how can it be fixed? Since it's not practical to mercury-wet these switches, I figured I'd install suppression diodes. I got 16 16-V Zener diodes that I'm going to mount back-to-back across each seat motor. This should clamp the spike to less than 18V. 14V Zeners should work too. I suppose the easiest place to mount the suppression diodes is in the seat switch box, underneath the plugs (each diode is about the size of a grain of rice). Because Land Rover only left about 1" of slack in the wires there, this will take some real patience. Does anyone know if these wires are exposed anywhere else convenient? So, that's my project for tomorrow. After the diodes, I'll install two brand new seat switches and, if they still work in two years, then we know that that was the problem. Me, I'm at UCSB now, finally getting my degree. 280,000 miles on Spike and, except for the accessories, feelin' fine. - Scott From bens Tue Sep 17 23:37:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I3bS912271 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:37:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:37:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180337.g8I3bSc12267@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Scott Bronson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: Peter Ogilvie Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The Range Rover is very good for many things, but towing is definitely not one of them. 1) When you're heavy on the gas, make sure you're going faster than ~55 MPH. If not, the automatic transmission is unlocked and you'll burn it to dust in a matter of hours. I've never done it, but I've seen it done. It's not pretty. If you can't maintain 55, then I recommend shifting into low range, winding it up and doing 35. This is much less punishing on the drivetrain. 2) With the softer RR suspension, trailer push can be a REAL problem. Watch your speed on the downhills. If you suddenly find that when you step on the brake your vehicle starts bucking violently, you might be in deep trouble. Not much you can do then except start searching for a runaway truck ramp and regret that you neglected to check your trailer's brakes before starting out. Ben and I towed a boxy, heavy load from Oregon back to the Bay Area (;-) so I know that long distances can be done safely. With the right trailer, you can do it. Just make sure to take it easy. On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 12:26, John Brabyn wrote: > > Max towing weight in high range for trailers with brakes is 5,500 lb, > tongue weight 550 lbs. However you will find it pretty slow towing 5,000 > lbs. Should be no problem for launching etc, you can tow 7,700 lbs in > low range (with brakes). > > Cheers > > John [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 17 23:42:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I3gMP12309 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:42:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:42:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180342.g8I3gMc12305@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209180337.g8I3bSc12267@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Ben and I towed a boxy, heavy load from Oregon back to the Bay Area (;-) > so I know that long distances can be done safely. With the right > trailer, you can do it. Just make sure to take it easy. Otherwise known as a Series III 88" called Dora. And as I recall your tranny got a bit warm at one point. And we pulled over to let it cool down. Ben From bens Wed Sep 18 00:51:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I4p6v14012 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:51:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:51:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180451.g8I4p5E14008@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: NCRC Rally Spots Filling Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just a reminder to folks to get registration in for the rally if you're planning on attending. If all the e-mail inquiries pan out there may only be 8 spots left (National Forest rules limit the number of participants without a requiring an event permit). (Leslie/Jeanne? Granville -yours hasn't appeared yet). As indicated in the registration info that was sent out the dates are Oct. 12/13 with a potluck lunch at noon on the 13th leaving plenty of time to get home. Jeremy From bens Wed Sep 18 01:22:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I5MXo14177 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:22:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:22:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180522.g8I5MXM14173@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Glass Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I just picked up my first pieces of new and improved glass for the rover. Tinted safety glass all the way around. The light tint where it needs to be light to keep legal and nice and dark for the rear. If I'm lucky, it might just help to keep things a touch cooler. RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Wed Sep 18 01:36:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I5a4Z14259 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:36:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:36:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180536.g8I5a4c14255@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Good to hear from you Scott! Glad to see you still have your Rangie! TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity > > In message <200209180337.g8I3bSc12267@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > > Ben and I towed a boxy, heavy load from Oregon back to the Bay Area (;-) > > so I know that long distances can be done safely. With the right > > trailer, you can do it. Just make sure to take it easy. > > Otherwise known as a Series III 88" called Dora. And as I recall > your tranny got a bit warm at one point. And we pulled over to let it [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 18 01:43:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I5hwK14318 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:43:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:43:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180543.g8I5hvn14314@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: treasurer@norcalrover.org, mendo Subject: birthplace of the NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So where is the Albatross Pub? Thanks, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 02:21:03 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6L3h14517 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:21:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:21:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180621.g8I6L3K14513@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover Seat Switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Scott Bronson wrote: > > Hi guys. My first Mendo message was about seat switches > (back in > 1997?), so it's fitting that this subject should mark my > return... Welcome back Scott! Where ya been all these years? > Me, I'm at UCSB now, finally getting my degree. 280,000 > miles on Spike > and, except for the accessories, feelin' fine. ah! down there? how long hae you been down in Santa Barbra? Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 02:21:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6LKU14532 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:21:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:21:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180621.g8I6LKw14528@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jon, Try fabbing it yourself. Aluminum is fairly easy to work with. It'll take you a few hrs at most and I suspect a pro will charge you more than $100 to make it. The money you save will more than cover the cost of any needed tools and materials. Not sure if anyone else mentioned, but an easy way to make the panel is to first scribe all features (and the outline) on a larger piece then finish the cutouts and holes using drills and files. Cut the outline last by carefully using an inexpensive reciprocating saw. Clean up with a file, sand and paint or go with JeffR's good vinyl covering idea. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:21:56 -0400 From: Shane Ballensky Subject: Re: HELP - Custom dash plate fabrication - where to go? home depot and your garage? >Help - I want to get a custom dash plate fabricated for the center dash >panel fabricated for my Defender - kind of like this >http://www.d-90.com/mod/switches.jpg Any hints on where I should go or >what category I should look under in the yellow pages? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 02:31:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6VU814600 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:31:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:31:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180631.g8I6VUW14596@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover Towing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] Ben writes: > Otherwise known as a Series III 88" called Dora. And as I recall > your tranny got a bit warm at one point. And we pulled over to let it > cool down. > We flat tow my SIII 88" (~ 4100 lb.) all the time using our Disco from the San Fernando Valley to Big Bear. We usually have no problem even through the high desert portion with temps 90 -100+F. The last part of the drive involves a 16% grade on Hwy 18 ending up at ~7,000 feet. Other than some tendency to fish tail and the need to go into low gear up the aforementioned grade, we have had no problems. We once used the same towing setup to tow the SIII all the way from LA to the Portland ABFM and back too (~2,000 miles round trip). The only time we had trouble (other than dealer caused brake problems) was on the grade up to Big Bear when a partly clogged fuel filter on the Disco resulted in a loss of power, but we still made it. Karen Sindir '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros '95 Disco EFE From bens Wed Sep 18 02:48:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6msg14680 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:48:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:48:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180648.g8I6msZ14676@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Range Rover Towing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Ben writes: > > > Otherwise known as a Series III 88" called Dora. And as I recall > > your tranny got a bit warm at one point. And we pulled over to let it > > cool down. > > > > We flat tow my SIII 88" (~ 4100 lb.) all the time using our Disco from the > San Fernando Valley to Big Bear. We usually have no problem even through the > high desert portion with temps 90 -100+F. The last part of the drive involves > a 16% grade on Hwy 18 ending up at ~7,000 feet. Other than some tendency to > fish tail and the need to go into low gear up the aforementioned grade, we > have had no problems. We once used the same towing setup to tow the SIII all > the way from LA to the Portland ABFM and back too (~2,000 miles round trip). > > The only time we had trouble (other than dealer caused brake problems) was on > the grade up to Big Bear when a partly clogged fuel filter on the Disco > resulted in a loss of power, but we still made it. Flat towing is usually alot easier on control than than towing a trailer, there is pratically no tongue weight when flat towing, hence there will be alot less rear end wag on the tow rig... Braking while flat towing is less than a trailer ( assuming the trailer has brakes ).... But the tranny load on the tow rig is the same I guess. I do both as needed... flat towing is a bit easier to set up/disconnect... but does put more wear on tow rigs brakes and on the flat towed rigs tires ect... of course flat towing with my old Disco was a bit squirely, while with the LWB crew cab F350 you can't even tell its back there ( 172 inch wheelbase vs 100 ) TomW .02 > > > Karen Sindir > '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy > '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros > '95 Disco EFE > > > From bens Wed Sep 18 02:55:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6tDo14751 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180655.g8I6tC814723@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well..... I've been on T-Mobile less than a month, BUT - their reception has by far surpassed anything that Sprint could ever do on a good day!!! I've had clear and strong signals from L.A. clear upto and over Donner Pass, and never lost it at all. Also works through Tehachapi and into Mojave/Lancaster/Palmdale with no signal loss whatsoever - something Sprint couldn't do for me. Also works through the "Black Hole" of lost signals - I-210 from Pasadena, to Sylmar. So far, I've been most impressed. Finally got a response from Sprint regarding my complaint to the BBB: they sent me a letter asking me to call them. !? - they haven't offered to do anything, but they want me to call them...sorry, but they're too late: I need a cellphone when I'm not here, and they can't seem to understand that no matter how clear I made that to them. They had their chance when I called them from their office, and I got stonewalled, and answers that were nothing more than "...I don't know...", with no offers to even look into what happened and get back to me, and that just doesn't fly with me. Anyway - rant mode off, but I'm very happy with T-Mobile. BTW: they have another special through the end of the month (found out about it in Reno): they have a California/Nevada plan that covers ONLY those two states - no long distance, no nothing else. Anyway, it's 3000 minutes for $39.95, with unlimited weekends! AGAIN - this plan is ONLY for use between California/Nevada. Keep in mind - T-Mobile is still a "start-up" company that's leasing sites from other companies at present, but they are expanding, so I'd expect service to still be sketchy in some places, and the few people I've spoken to with them seem to be pretty honest about it. YMMV Charles On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:43:17 -0400 Paul Archibald writes: > > > --- jcsf wrote: > > > > hi, frank, > > i have recently switched from verizon to t-mobile and am > > only fairly > > satisfied. reception is not a good as verizon, i.e., > > there are a lot of [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 02:55:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6tFF14766 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180655.g8I6tCP14737@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover Seat Switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Scott, I'd be interested in your findings as well...stay tuned to the list! I do think that a contributing factor to the demise of the switch functions could possibly be the stuff you use to clean your seats (or, the stuff that the car wash you take your truck to uses to clean the seats...): you spray stuff on - it goes everywhere? Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 02:55:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6tDe14752 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180655.g8I6tCm14734@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Santa Monica Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith, too bad I was in Reno with the S.O....just got home this eve. Should be here through the weekend, in case you're heading to Pat's again........ Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 02:55:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6tD014753 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180655.g8I6tCV14735@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Frank, I forgot to add in my last post: make sure you get one of the better phones that they offer. I looked at their freebie phone, and I didn't like it...looked "too" cheap, even though it was a Motorola, and I for one, am one of those people that should never be given a "flip phone", because I'd break it the first chance I got. Besides, I'm sure that the reception is better on the better phone anyway. Charles On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:08:17 -0400 "Franklin H. Yap" writes: > > Hi, > > Are those who switched to T-Mobile happy with service, reception, > etc.? > I have AT&T and I have to re-do my plan because last year promo > just > expired. I'm not dissatisfied with AT&T, but T-mobile on paper > looks good. [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 02:55:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I6tJG14782 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180655.g8I6tCb14736@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: A rover owner needs help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Heck, I just drove back from Visalia today: had somebody called me, I could have made the journey up there to assist. But, nobody called me. Charles On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:15:39 -0400 "Eric Riston" writes: > > Help > One of my Range Rover Customers is Broken down at a Hotel in > Yreka, > California. He has a bad Water Pump can anyone help him with a good > shop? > Please contact him at cell # 408 472 6304 his name is Jim Johnson. > Thanks > Eric [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 03:02:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8I72tv14831 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 03:02:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 03:02:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209180702.g8I72tL14827@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover towing capacity Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org When I picked up my 109SW, it was completely full of spare parts - the heaviest being two gallons of paint, and a cylinder head. I also had my girlfriend, Russ, and Mo riding in the Rangie with me, and MAN - was it squirrely! I've towed an empty Gillian several times in the past, and never had a problem, though: could have something to do with the extra wheelbase and weight??? Same Rangie, but 3" taller, and with stiffer shocks. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 09:17:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IDHmu16905 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:17:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:17:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181317.g8IDHl016901@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: Custom dash panel fabrication Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 54 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for all the comments - I like the suggestion for wrapping the metal panel in vinyl. So I decided to make it myself and see if I could live with the appearance. I bought some aluminum sheeting from OSH and cut out the plate, drilled the holes, spray painted the plate. I didn't have the vinyl on hand, but that's easy to add later. I've really been surprised at how much wiring, relays, etc, is stuffed behind the dash. Especially relays / timers / etc that are just loose back there. I guess all the wiring holds everything pretty much in place so that it doesn't vibrate too much. So then I cut into the center of the dash (where the d-90s have their clock) and found that there was an AC duct right behind it. Damn! So out with the rotozip and cut through the plastic ductwork to give room for the switches. So they will actually be sitting in the AC duct! Anyway, it looks pretty good for now, though I don't think the paint will hold up too well but that is just temporary until I get some vinyl. So now it is just a small matter of getting all the wiring in! All this means that I am unlikely to bring the 110 out for pub night (I have dash pieces all over the floor of my garage), will probably bring the RR. But right Emily and I are planning on attending Friday. Jon Jon Turner '01 RR 4.6 HSE '93 NAS 110 412/500 From bens Wed Sep 18 11:02:34 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IF2Ya17544 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:02:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:02:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181502.g8IF2YR17540@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...and while I wasn't going to post anymore sightings..... Pick N Pull, Carson City, Nv: '73 MGB Roadster: no bonnet, no bootlid, no cylinder head (& carbs), no oil cooler - everything else there, including a rust-free & straight bodyshell...got lucky and found a set of tube shock conversion brackets lying in the trunk - WITH shocks! (the owner obviously had two of them, since this car still had the Armstrong levers on it) Toyota FJ55 Land Cruiser (flat sided body) - rusty bodyshell, interior gone, wheels & brake parts gone, engine/gearbos/transfer case still there. '74 International Travelall - all there. Pick N Pull, Sparks Nv.: Sterling (Rover) 825 - complete! Virginia City: Series IIA SWB (minus jump seats) sitting in lot next to the only gas station, with chains on front wheels, and snow plow attached to front bumper! (obviously they only run this truck during the winter...) Spare plugs/dizzy caps sitting on passenger side of shelf, truck had hardtop w/slider windows, and a crank pulley-driven PTO winch WITH the interior pull cables! Truck is painted white. (was originally Limestone) Several Discos in parking lots at Stead Airport...didn't see that Santana 109 P/U this year. I also stopped at Sundance Books and picked up the book about U.S. 50: here's a little updated info for you Land Rover folks out there that bought this book: The Sutro Tunnel - and the surrounding property - has since been bought by a private party, and I have never seen so many "Keep out/No Trespassing" signs in one place in my entire life!!!!! They even have a sign that says "Sutro Tunnel/surrounding land and homes has been bought by private party, and there is no longer public access to the tunnel: STAY OUT - THIS MEANS YOU! Beware of dog." You can't closer than maybe 3/4 of a mile to the tunnel, and can't visibly see it from where you are stopped. There is no phone number available for the owners, so if you plan on exploring the tunnel, forget it. They apparently bought the entire mountain, because every access road along the 4-mile length has been gated and posted. There is also a new housing tract at the "town" of Sutro (when the book was published, there was no town of Sutro - only the tunnel!) right off U.S. 50, and the access road tot he tunnel runs right through this tract! (until you get to the unfriendly signs) There are literally hundreds of mineshafts all over the town & surrounding areas!!!!! I wasn't there on a day when the BLM office in Carson City was open, but I'd highly reccomend finding a map of the shafts - if there is a current one (only one I could find was dated 1965 - there is still some digging going on by private parties, and a couple of companies, so old maps are outdated) Six Mile Canyon Road is now paved in its entirety, and no longer has any dirt sections...dunno about the Fort Churchill section, though (ran out of daylight: girlfriend and I spent the whole day in Virginia City!). Watch your speed though - it's still posted at 25MPH out of Virginia City, and later 35MPH only. As for the Air Races: several crashes this year: two popular Mustangs - Miss America and Strega - both suffered blown engines while qualifying on Wednesday/Thursday. Miss America crashed while attempting to land, but was not totaled. (owner is already gathering parts for a rebuild) Strega blew it's engine block in half (!!!), and was loaned the spare engine of another crew, and the team spend the next 3-4 days replacing the blown engine, only to burn a piston on Lap 1 of the Gold Race on Sunday! They dropped out of the race before it got worse. There were two more crashes on Friday, in a Sport class: one pilot walked away, the other was killed. Both accidents happened on the same lap, but there are differing stories as to what happened (I've heard 3 so far), so while I can't say if both were involved with one another, I can say that the high winds are considered the main factor in both. Winds were averaging 25-35MPH and gusting to 50, so there were no lap records in the Unlimited class, and the Unlimited Gold race was delayed - almost cancelled. Rare Bear did not fly, but repairs are now complete (after several years of not flying), and Lyle taxied out in front of the crowd and did an engine run-up while the Unlimiteds were taking off for the Gold race: his engine is so happy, that when he did the high-rpm idle, it completely drowned out the sound of the other 8 planes that were taking off right behind him!!!!! Would have been nice to see it fly again. Anyway - Dago Red (highly modified P-51 Mustang) won again for the 4th year in a row...still hasn't beaten Rare Bears' record of 5 consecutive wins, though. Lots of arieal displays, including a PAIR of privately-owned F-104's(!!!), and a Hawker Hunter. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 12:45:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IGjai18086 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:45:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:45:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181645.g8IGjai18082@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: panel piece fab Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jon, There is a machine shop right next door to Mike Green's shop (or at least there used to be). I've seen them do some pretty cool stuff (some of it for my first 109!). I'm interested in your project-- assume it for the D110-- there is not much space behind that area, primarily due to the NAS D110-specific A/C plenum. I guess you will need some sort of a standoff to allow room for the switch body? If you manage to figure out how to get the entire dash fascia off (the grey bit with the vents in it and the black piece below) I'd love to learn about it! Cheers. From bens Wed Sep 18 12:46:24 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IGkO218101 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:46:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:46:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181646.g8IGkOJ18097@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > The Sutro Tunnel - and the surrounding property - has since been bought by a private party, and I have never seen so many "Keep out/No Trespassing" signs in one place in my entire life!!!!! They even have a sign that says "Sutro Tunnel/surrounding land and homes has been bought by private party, and there is no longer public access to the tunnel: STAY OUT - THIS MEANS YOU! Beware of dog." You can't closer than maybe 3/4 of a mile to the tunnel, and can't visibly see it from where you are stopped. There is no phone number available for the owners, so if you plan on exploring the tunnel, forget it. >>Au Contraire ,(I can't spell French and I don't speak French, but it seemed apropos.) but at the VERY LAST keep-out private property sign, the one that if you proceed any farther, you feel as though you would be in the cross-hairs of someone in one of those old buildings, I thought I saw a phone number for a tour/access to the tunnel area. But I was there about 2 months ago, so maybe they have become more...private. They apparently bought the entire mountain, because every access road along the 4-mile length has been gated and posted. There is also a new housing tract at the "town" of Sutro (when the book was published, there was no town of Sutro - only the tunnel!) right off U.S. 50, and the access road tot he tunnel runs right through this tract! (until you get to the unfriendly signs) >>I, too, was amazed at the new housing tracts and "town" of Sutro. Adolf would be pleased. There are literally hundreds of mineshafts all over the town & surrounding areas!!!!! I wasn't there on a day when the BLM office in Carson City was open, but I'd highly reccomend finding a map of the shafts - if there is a current one (only one I could find was dated 1965 - there is still some digging going on by private parties, and a couple of companies, so old maps are outdated) >>Are you referring to Virginia City or Sutro? I agree if you're talking about V.C. Six Mile Canyon Road is now paved in its entirety, and no longer has any dirt sections >>Oh nuts, that was an interesting drive..before pavement. ...dunno about the Fort Churchill section, though (ran out of daylight: girlfriend and I spent the whole day in Virginia City!). >>Well, a few months ago, I drove from Hwy 95 to Hwy 50, on the old Fort Churchill road. It's all dirt, dust and washboard. Also a few cattle on the road. With the HD Old Man Emu springs, the ride was, well, I was glad to be back on blacktop. Of note, there is a company out there that test vehicle suspensions, drive-trains, etc. I observed a couple military 8-wheeled vehicles parked next to one of the "hangers". They were either the General Dynamics LAV - Light Armored Vehicle - that the USMC uses, or the GD-Canada IAV - Interim Armored Vehicle or "Stryker". Oh yeah, some guy was also driving a j**p around in the fenced off area. He may have been keeping his eye on me, as there are lots of "NO STOPPING" signs in that area. The Carson River is near this road, but access is mostly blocked by barbed wire and the ubiquitous "No Trespassing" sign on EVERY fence post. All the real nice places are blocked, naturally. From bens Wed Sep 18 13:25:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IHPcp18295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:25:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:25:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181725.g8IHPcg18291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: panel piece fab Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 32 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Blair - the machine shop is still next to West Coast British. My solution to the AC duct was to just chop right through it. It's a pretty big duct, so a few switches intruding into it will not really hurt it that badly, and my new coverplate should seal it up pretty well. I was stumped by the grey fascia piece. I took out the screws as indicated by the manual, but it still would not come out. Appeared to be hung up right around the AC button. Jon From bens Wed Sep 18 13:30:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IHUPI18337 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:30:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:30:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181730.g8IHUOu18333@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:46:24 -0400 "Eric Johnson" writes: > > > >>Au Contraire ,(I can't spell French and I don't speak French, but > it > seemed apropos.) > but at the VERY LAST keep-out private property sign, the one that if > you proceed any farther, you feel as though you would be in the > cross-hairs of someone in one of those old buildings, I thought I > saw a [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Didn't see a second row of signs - just the gauntlet they had at the gate entering the surrounding property......maybe they found more paydirt?? > >>Are you referring to Virginia City or Sutro? I agree if you're > talking about V.C. Oh - I was referring to Virginia City when speaking of the mine shafts: I've told Janet about recent incidents near California City involving people on motorcycles playing in the sand, and ended up 200 feet in a mineshaft that wasn't marked, and also the most recent incident in Orange County, where 3 teens went exploring: two of them dropped through to another series of shafts - all were under water! Neither of them survived. She wondered how anybody could possibly let that happen to themselves, and as we drove along the bypass from V.C. I pointed out a square concrete form that had a wooden center that was on the fround, and NOT fenced off - an abandonded mine shaft! Walking through town, there are several places where digging was done, and was NOT filled in very well (if at all). Anybody with a little common sense could easily spot these as things to stay away from, but the absent-minded adventurer would be in for a little trouble. Be careful. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 14:01:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8II15r18768 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:01:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:01:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181801.g8II14h18764@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Now there is a truly stupid move by the government. Tne F-104 nearly killed all the German Air Force fighter pilots and quite a few of the our lead winged aviators. That airplane was the most challenging airplane to fly, even if you could get enough hours to stay current, that any of the services ever had. Suffice it to say that $150 a month flight pay was not enough to cover the risks. They cut the full independent Ford jeep in half, before suprlusing, because they felt it was such a dangerous vehicle. Wreck a jeep and you kill or injure a couple of people. Plant an F-104 in a crowd and you could kill thousands. Whoever said the government wasn't stupid, doesn't have a clue. Aloha Peter O. > Lots of arieal displays, including a PAIR of > privately-owned > F-104's(!!!), > Charles __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 14:02:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8II2Ud18807 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:02:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:02:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181802.g8II2TQ18803@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: birthplace of the NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] a block north of University ave on San Pablo. Take university ave exit. left on San Pablo. From bens Wed Sep 18 15:23:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IJNg519421 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:23:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:23:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181923.g8IJNfN19417@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Re: T-Mobile (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jeanne wrote: > I have recently switched from verizon to t-mobile and am > only fairly satisfied. reception is not a good as verizon, i.e., > there are a lot of places (including certain places in my home) > where i don't get a signal A co-worker just switched to T-Mobile (even thought I told him to stay with Verizon) to save a few dollars every month and he has not had great service. Last week he called in to a conference call on the way to SFO and we lost him three times in a half hour... Kevin From bens Wed Sep 18 15:23:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IJNef19413 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:23:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:23:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181923.g8IJNeA19409@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Engine Steam Cleaning Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know where I can get a Land Rover engine compartment steam cleaned in SF or Marin? Kevin From bens Wed Sep 18 15:46:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IJkG919558 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:46:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:46:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209181946.g8IJkG319554@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Aw - come on, Pete: 104's aren't THAT bad: U-2's/TR-1's are MUCH worse! (same airframe, larger wing) I think with the latter two, the difference between stall speed and ripping the wings off was something like 6-12 Knots! They (F-104's) were in service in Germany and Spain (or was it Italy) well into the 1990's, with several upgrade kits supplied by Lockheed, and while they are a handfull to a novice, they did have a pretty good safety record. Then again, they never were in service here in the States in large numbers, either. But, I sure love the sound they make when you rev the engine a little...:) Probably where the sound effect guys got the noise that Airwolf made! Charles On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:01:04 -0400 Peter Ogilvie writes: > > Now there is a truly stupid move by the government. > Tne F-104 nearly killed all the German Air Force > fighter pilots and quite a few of the our lead winged > aviators. That airplane was the most challenging > airplane to fly, even if you could get enough hours to > stay current, that any of the services ever had. > Suffice it to say that $150 a month flight pay was not > enough to cover the risks. [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Wed Sep 18 16:51:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IKpjA20188 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:51:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:51:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209182051.g8IKpj620184@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: birthplace of the NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 02:02 PM 9/18/02 -0400, Mehdi Saghafi wrote: >a block north of University ave on San Pablo. Take university ave exit. >left on San Pablo. Specifically, it's: ALBATROSS PUB 1822 San Pablo Ave. Berkeley, CA 94702 -1624 (510) 843-2473 I seem to recall it being more like 2-3 blocks north, but they're short blocks. I'd offer GPS coords, but my GPS is in the Disco, and SWMBO always gets the Disco. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Sep 18 16:55:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8IKtTv20235 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:55:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:55:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209182055.g8IKtTl20231@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: base camp stoves Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org These guys sell wood burning stoves from shoebox size to huge - all portable. Who's gonna get one?? http://www.rileystoves.com/ Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 19:49:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8INnEk21281 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:49:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:49:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209182349.g8INnEU21277@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Back from the Air Races...(little content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The German's were on the verge of dropping their interceptor capability, entirely, because of so many accidents during the winter. Without constant flying, not possible with European winter conditions, the pilots just weren't able to stay proficient in the F-104. If you didn't know, they solved the problem by sending ALL the German fighter pilots to the Southwest, in shifts, over the winter. They actually kept a permanent German fighter wing based in Arizona. Kept their pilots current and drastically cut the accident rate. The Starfighter is/was a beautiful airplane. Had no match for straight away interceptor work. No fighter since has had comparable straight line performance without doubling the thrust. Unfortunately, those stubby wings gave almost no stall warning and wouldn't fly much under 200 knots. Just too hot a plane for a normal human to control when they got slow. Slow for a F-104 was under 400knots, from what I hear, btw. Aloha Peter O. --- Charles R Irvin wrote: > > Aw - come on, Pete: 104's aren't THAT bad: > U-2's/TR-1's are MUCH worse! > (same airframe, larger wing) I think with the latter > two, the difference > between stall speed and ripping the wings off was > something like 6-12 > Knots! > [ 38 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 20:20:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J0KKL21474 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:20:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:20:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190020.g8J0KJ321470@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: panel piece fab Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Damn, I was hoping you would have the magic trick. I need to take mine apart as the flap for the main vents seems to be stuck (I can get floor or defrost). This needs to be fixed before winter (only really a problem on shorter drives, on longer drives the whole Land Rover exhaust-foot heat transfer mechanism keeps the front passengers plenty warm!). I did take a 20 minute look at it and wasn't able to get the piece out. Not sure if I didn't pull hard enough or what (I hate plastic and it seems to hate me so I tend to be rather cautious when it comes to disassembling dashboards!). Shannon On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 10:25 AM, Turner, Jon [LFS] wrote: > I was stumped by the grey fascia piece. I took out the screws as > indicated > by the manual, but it still would not come out. Appeared to be hung up > right around the AC button. From bens Wed Sep 18 20:50:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J0omu21657 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:50:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:50:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190050.g8J0omu21653@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: panel piece fab Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Shannon, ya gotta put the fear of tool into the piece! ;-0 Fire up teh sawzall and rev it a bit before starting ont he dash(but do unplug it so in a fit or frustration you do not resort to it!) Paul --- Shannon Holland wrote: > > Damn, I was hoping you would have the magic trick. I need > to take mine > apart as the flap for the main vents seems to be stuck (I > can get floor > or defrost). This needs to be fixed before winter (only > really a problem > on shorter drives, on longer drives the whole Land Rover > exhaust-foot [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 18 22:05:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J25wk22089 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:05:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:05:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190205.g8J25wg22085@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland (wireless)" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: panel piece fab Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ahhh, thanks Paul. I'll get out the sawzall tonight. If that doesn't work, I'l try the chainsaw... Failing that perhaps a trip to the local Jeep dealership? Mostly what I need is to look at it again when I have some free time, it's still light outside and I'm not leaving on a big roadtrip early the next morning.... Of course, whatwill happen is I'l leave it until the night before the next big trip... Shannon On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 6:23PM -0800, Paul Archibald wrote: > >Shannon, >ya gotta put the fear of tool into the piece! ;-0 >Fire up teh sawzall and rev it a bit before starting ont he >dash(but do unplug it so in a fit or frustration you do not >resort to it!) > >Paul > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --holland From bens Wed Sep 18 22:55:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J2tsl22368 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:55:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:55:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190255.g8J2trN22364@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: NCRC Rally Spots Filling Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jeremy, > Granville -yours hasn't appeared yet). I sent it a good while ago. Mailed it at the post office (outside box). Should have been there days ago. Granny From bens Thu Sep 19 00:53:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J4rtN24366 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:53:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:53:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190453.g8J4rs724362@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ok, I've finally got the Pismo group of photos together and posted. Sat night, we loaded the combined set of digital photos on my Mac and I've taken out most of the duplicates of when we all shot at the same thing. For those of you that have high speed cable or DSL links, I've sneaked the file up to my site*. Jason, it would be great if you could transfer this over to the club website. It is a very large file - 13MB. For now, download it by pointing your browser at this link: http://www.agre.org/graphics/pismo.zip I had a great time!!! There were a couple of stories that the photos tell... the dark blue soft top d90 (sorry I forgot your name!!) was stuck in the soft sand at the bottom of a bowl and threw up a bunch of sand. It seemed like the low lock was not fully engaged but I never did hear what the deal was there? We all lined up for a group shot of heading down a pretty steep dune. Somehow it doesn't look as steep in the pics as it did staring down it over my steering wheel.. Queenie went in and got stuck on purpose to give me, the newbie, some practice at towing someone out. That was so much fun - along with pulling out the two wheel drive type folks out of the sand by the beach - that I am scoping out my winch purchase. Queenie got stuck for real very precariously on the side of a steep bowl. Brad and his Rangie got big time stuck. We had loads of fun with that. Ok maybe not Tom (who broke an axle on the rescue) as much as the rest of us watching... which besides us, ended up being a large contingent of other duners in ATVs and bikes. For me, I got a great lesson on when to tow with a strap and when to winch... Thanks much to John and Laurel and everyone who helped tutor me on the fine art of 4wheel rovering, along with the next best fine art of wine tasting, for such a great weekend!! -nancy (*ps... my site is www.agre.org for the autism genetic resource exchange. For those at Pismo, who knew I was heading down on Sunday to LA for the layoff news.. several folks were hit but I'm still employed, but anyone who wants to donate to a great cause, autism research! now is a terrific time :) !) nancyehart@mac.com '97 blued90 #0047 On Monday, September 16, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Tom Walsh wrote: > > Just wanted to say the Pismo trip this weekend was excelent! We all > had a > blast! I'd like to thank John & Laurel for hosting it! A bunch of > folks have > some great pics which may end up on the NCRC web site in a bit! > > TomW > From bens Thu Sep 19 01:00:10 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J50A824414 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:00:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:00:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190500.g8J50AS24408@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: NCRC Albatross Address Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org For those who want to know the next NCRC social event is at the Albatross Pub in Berkeley (aka The Bird), 1822 San Pablo Ave.... This Fri. at 6:30 onwards. Folks who get there early would be well advised to grab large tables. Take University Ave. exit off 80. Heading east turn left at the 2nd (?) light on San Pablo. The pub is on the second block north on the east side. Good luck with parking. The Albatross does now serve limited food (veggie pizza and a killer cheesecake but not a lot more ... might want to fill up prior to meeting). Jeremy From bens Thu Sep 19 02:02:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J62ej24886 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:02:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:02:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190602.g8J62eA24882@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: NCRC site has a message forum! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The NCRC club website now offically has an online message forum. To access this message forum simply go to the club website located at www.norcalrover.org and click on the link for "Forum" and you will be taken directly to the 4 current message boards. We've created 4 inital message boards, one for general questions and info, one for event questions and info, one for tech questions and info, and one for buying and selling LR stuff. At this time only club members can post new messages to the site. To do so you will need to know the current login name and password found on the most recent version of the mailed calendar. Failing that you can contact me personally and I will tell you what it is. If you questions, comments, problems, ideas, issues, etc, regarding this new feature of the offical NCRC site please let me or a club officer know. I can't promise this new feature is perfect or won't be without tiny little funny quirks, but bare with me. It's taken a long time to get it running properly and we've taken into consideration many different aspects in creating this feature. As with anything it's impossible to think of everything ahead of time or to please all needs and desires at once. I do really think everyone will find this new communication tool helpful though. Take a look, try it out, let me know what you think, and most importantly enjoy! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Thu Sep 19 02:40:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8J6eMh25316 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:40:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:40:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209190640.g8J6eMv25312@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC site has a message forum! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 90 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-5-423324560 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Very nice Jason!! I noticed that the date posting on the messages are central time. Is that because the server is located in that time zone? Eric On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Jason Pipes wrote: > > The NCRC club website now offically has an online message forum. > > To access this message forum simply go to the club website located at > www.norcalrover.org and click on the link for "Forum" and you will be > taken > directly to the 4 current message boards. > > We've created 4 inital message boards, one for general questions and [ 37 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Eric --Apple-Mail-5-423324560 From bens Thu Sep 19 11:38:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JFcPH28065 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:38:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:38:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191538.g8JFcPr28061@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Ok maybe not Tom (who broke an axle on the rescue) ??????? Do tell Tom! I take it you are having some teathing pains with the new "little" tires you are now running? ;-( Paul(attempting to download Nancy's image file if it ever finishes...) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 19 12:44:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JGiu328454 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:44:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:44:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191644.g8JGits28450@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC site has a message forum! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, I believe you are correct, the time stamp is showing central standard because the box hosting the site is located in that region. Ben, if you're reading this, is that correct? Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Thu Sep 19 12:48:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JGmPV28515 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:48:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:48:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191648.g8JGmPX28511@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Santa Monica Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles and All, > too bad I was in Reno with the S.O....just got home this eve. > Should be here through the weekend, in case you're heading to Pat's > again........ > > Charles Wow, what a hassle it's been trying to find the time to get to Pat's. He probably thinks I'm a flake. On Friday night I was able to get the floor boards, seat box, drive shafts and most everything else disconnected from the transmission. Nick and Todd came over and we finished pulling out trans. Getting ready for the Santa Monica trip for work put me behind on dropping the tranny. Nick mentioned that he was going to Pat's on Tuesday to pick up the APGP Land Rover so we agreed that I'd rent a one way Uhaul trailer and he'd drive it down with his 93 LWB Range Rover. This gave me more time to finish projects at work and get ready for the trip to New Gloucester Maine on Business. When Tuesday rolled around I went to my dad's to pick up his truck and rent the trailer, but he was having chest pain so we went to the hospital. After a complete check out it turned out to be a false alarm, thank god. Mean while I've called Nick and canceled for one or another reason several times. My dad said let's get the trailer so we did. With my dad supervising, Pam and I borrowed her brother's engine hoist and loaded up the Uhaul. Nick called after everything was loaded and said that his trans in the LWB had gone south so he had nothing to tow with. His Dormobile tranny was also acting up so we decided that he'd drive Pam's Disco XD down. Pam needed a car so Chanda, Nick's wife loaned out her BMW convertible. We'll you think that would be the end of the trouble but no there's more. At first everything was fine and now the clutch in the Chanda's BMW won't completely disengage the the engine from the trans so you have to fight it with the brake. All we need is the tranny in Pam's disco to go south on the way back and everything will be complete. Cheers, Keith From bens Thu Sep 19 13:17:34 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JHHYU28767 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:17:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:17:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191717.g8JHHYP28763@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Custom dash panel fabrication Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Good luck and have fun. Next time you see Spot take a look at his instrument/switch panal. Rolling Thunder did a beautiful job IMHO. Bruce "Turner, Jon [LFS]" wrote: So I decided to make it myself and see if I could live withthe appearance. From bens Thu Sep 19 13:20:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JHK0H28785 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:20:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:19:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191719.g8JHJxV28781@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The Range Rover is due for new tires, so I have been reading old threads from this list on them, and doing research on the web, as well as at my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires is a royal pain! Does anyone else agonize over this? From bens Thu Sep 19 14:33:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JIXPC29668 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:33:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191833.g8JIXPO29664@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland (wireless)" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Having just gone through that, I would have to agree! 8 million different yet valid opinions. Very little quantitative data. Lots of choices. And generally conflicting needs... But that's all part of the fun! And yet another reason why this list is great! Shannon On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:29AM -0800, James Howard wrote: > > >The Range Rover is due for new tires, so I have been reading old >threads > from this list on them, and doing research on the web, as well as at >my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires >is a royal pain! > >Does anyone else agonize over this? --holland From bens Thu Sep 19 14:51:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JIppB29833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:51:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:51:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191851.g8JIppc29829@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires > is a royal pain! > > Does anyone else agonize over this? not really. I'll go to Bernards Tire and buy Coopers. Probably CTD for Stubby and what stubby has now for the Dormie. I prefer to go somewhere local that I know and trust for service. Bernards had a good price when we bought tires years ago and he's done things for free since then. cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Thu Sep 19 15:15:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JJFe429958 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:15:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191915.g8JJFdI29954@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nothing to tell I was pulling someone who really mired in the sand, I got burried also, and then poped a cv Fortunately we were done for the day, so I drove back to the beach, pulled the slip clutches, and that was that. TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Pismo trip > > > Ok maybe not Tom (who broke an axle on the rescue) > ??????? > > Do tell Tom! > > I take it you are having some teathing pains with the new > "little" tires you are now running? ;-( > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 19 15:33:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JJXq930068 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:33:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191933.g8JJXq430064@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org same here James, i am running 215 on the rangie using Dunlop's Radial Rover R/T ,i have them for about 80K miles and i had a blow out 2 weeks ago so i decided to change all 5 with the same brand and size cheers, fil ps the D90 needs some new rubbers so can i go to 285's without any gear changes, i have 2 inch lift >From: James Howard >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" >Subject: Tires are a pain! >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:19:59 -0400 > >The Range Rover is due for new tires, so I have been reading old threads > from this list on them, and doing research on the web, as well as at >my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Thu Sep 19 15:37:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JJbH230152 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:37:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:37:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191937.g8JJbHQ30148@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John I thought CTD's were no longer produced? From bens Thu Sep 19 15:40:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JJe5p30199 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:40:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:40:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191940.g8JJe5m30195@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just remember that, if you go to Wally Mart or any such place - and they ask you what truck you have & tell you what you MUST buy for it (the discontinued Michelins), simply tell them that the tire that you must buy is no longer available...that should do away with part of the headache. Hopefully, they'll think about this, and realizing that you've gotta buy something, they'll let you buy something else - as was the case with me. Charles On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:19:59 -0400 James Howard writes: > > > The Range Rover is due for new tires, so I have been reading old > threads > from this list on them, and doing research on the web, as well as > at > my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for > tires > is a royal pain! [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Thu Sep 19 15:44:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JJivU30229 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:44:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:44:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209191944.g8JJiv230225@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 9/19/02 10:20:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jhoward@sextans.lowell.edu writes: << Does anyone else agonize over this? >> I've always found it to be great fun, but then that's probly why I have TWO sets of tires and wheels for the RR. I've found it cheapest, once you know what you think you want, to order from tirerack.com. My last three sets I've bought from them, and had the tires FedExed from Louisiana cheaper and faster than UPS ground from Reno. I just call their 800 number and talk to a person as opposed to ordering online. Faster, and easier, and you get to confirm the shipping method etc. Then it's just a quick trip to Les Schwab for the mounting.... I sure love the smell of new tires in the living room. The Goodyear MT/Rs had an especially nice bouqet, but that isn't to take anything away from the Dunlop RTs ;-) As a sidenote, Goodyear is distributing Dunlop tires now, and the prices for Dunlops has gone up alot. I think I paid $102 ea locally about three years ago, and when I called the same guy last winter they were $136--hence tirerack order. Kevan From bens Thu Sep 19 18:01:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JM1wG31568 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:01:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:01:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192201.g8JM1vR31564@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 77 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-1-478624581 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I was hoping this strategy would work, but Michelin now makes those 205 synchrones, which is a horrible tire for a rover. So that's the tire they want to put on. I was at wheel works (howard tire) and tried to get a quote on some 225/75s R/T's and they wouldn't even touch it. I suspect there are local shops that don't mind and will do it. Eric On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 12:40 PM, Charles R Irvin wrote: > > Just remember that, if you go to Wally Mart or any such place - and they > ask you what truck you have & tell you what you MUST buy for it (the > discontinued Michelins), simply tell them that the tire that you must > buy > is no longer available...that should do away with part of the headache. > Hopefully, they'll think about this, and realizing that you've gotta buy > something, they'll let you buy something else - as was the case with me. > [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Eric --Apple-Mail-1-478624581 From bens Thu Sep 19 18:49:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JMnVf31982 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:49:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:49:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192249.g8JMnVb31978@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org got the Dunlop R/T's from American Tire co. here in fremont and they matched the price at tireracks.com, i got them for $91 each including shipping fil >From: Biophilian@aol.com >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:44:57 -0400 > >In a message dated 9/19/02 10:20:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >jhoward@sextans.lowell.edu writes: > [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Thu Sep 19 18:53:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JMrHY32021 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:53:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192253.g8JMrHO32017@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, Worst-case scenario, would be to buy the tires from one place - NOT telling them what kind of truck they're going on, and have them installed elswhere at a shop that's not afraid...sometimes that'll lighten up the guys that don't want to touch them. Several years ago, I had to replace a couple of the Michelins I had on my Rangie: the tires shop I usually go to wouldn't touch the truck simply because they didn't have the correct machine to install the original Michelins! (seems that they're a very tight fit on the wheels) Did the same thing with Gillian a few years ago...bought the Dunlops at one store, had them installed at my regular shop (many people get Land Rover and Range Rover consufed, including my insurance agent!). Charles On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:01:57 -0400 Eric Schoenman writes: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/enriched; ] > [ 77 lines filtered. ] > > --Apple-Mail-1-478624581 > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > [ 32 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Thu Sep 19 18:58:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JMwEF32054 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:58:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:58:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192258.g8JMwED32050@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have not had the problem with getting different sizes installed. I have 245/70R16s on right now, which are a little wide for my taste. The only reason I have that size is someone sold 5 almost brand new tires to me for $100. I had a local shop that I loved - fixed flats for free, even when I ddin't get the tires there. They got me some 165R14's for my MGB when noone else would. They have a new manager now who wouldn't listen to me when I told him what I wanted for the Range Rover. Argh. I might try a place here called "Harry's Double D Tire Corral". They never advertise. From bens Thu Sep 19 19:03:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JN3NO32103 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:03:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:03:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192303.g8JN3NR32099@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Tom Walsh wrote: > > Nothing to tell I was pulling someone who really mired in > the sand, I got > burried also, and then poped a cv > Fortunately we were done for the day, so I drove back to > the beach, pulled > the slip clutches, and that was that. arn't those the heavy duty cv's? I thought they wouldn't break? (well within reason...and I guess turning 37" tire in loose sand goes beyond that? ;-) Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Archibald" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Pismo trip > > > > > > > Ok maybe not Tom (who broke an axle on the rescue) [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 19 19:04:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JN4ME32118 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:04:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:04:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192304.g8JN4Lr32114@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have never had a problem with a shop putting an over sized or otherwise different tire on any car I have owned? The Tire Rack in Los Gatos does, Discount tire @ 237 & El camino does it and the place down the street from Nick B. has no problems with it just for starters. TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Schoenman" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/enriched; ] > [ 77 lines filtered. ] > > --Apple-Mail-1-478624581 > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 19 19:26:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JNQSl32285 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:26:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:26:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192326.g8JNQS032281@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Eric Schoenman wrote: > I was hoping this strategy would work, but Michelin now > makes those 205 > synchrones, which is a horrible tire for a rover. So > that's the tire > they want to put on. I was at wheel works (howard tire) > and tried to > get a quote on some 225/75s R/T's and they wouldn't even > touch it. What A PITA!!!!!!! > I > suspect there are local shops that don't mind and will do > it. You need to put the beastie up jacks, and bring the wheels in another truck....tell them they are for your sand/rock buggy. I think they will than let you buy whatever you want. Paul (luckily I have multiple sets of wheels/tires, and/or the sheer sight of The Light Brigade will scare them into selling me whatever the heck I want(I hope! we'll see when I need new tread....for now I still have spares..worse case bring them in the back with like story as I told you to tell) ;-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 19 19:32:07 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JNW7s32324 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:32:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:32:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192332.g8JNW6E32320@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 23 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" I had no problem buying non-standard size tires at Big O for my Range Rover. Just told the guy what I was trying to do, we talked sizes and what would fit, made the choice, did the deal. (put on the Big O X/Ts - nice tires) Jon From bens Thu Sep 19 19:41:34 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8JNfYe32421 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:41:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:41:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209192341.g8JNfXt32417@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Pismo trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The've had 3-4 years of abuse on em, its to expected. All the other guys I run with that have similar setups have gone through a few sets of CV's since I got myne, so I'm not complaining. TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Pismo trip > > > --- Tom Walsh wrote: > > > > Nothing to tell I was pulling someone who really mired in > > the sand, I got > > burried also, and then poped a cv > > Fortunately we were done for the day, so I drove back to > > the beach, pulled [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 19 20:19:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K0JCq32638 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:19:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:19:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200019.g8K0JCk32634@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland (wireless)" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ibig O in Los Gatos was also happy to put larger tires on for me. Costco was not, however... Shannon On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 5:17PM -0800, Turner, Jon [LFS] wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 23 lines filtered. ] > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not > understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > charset="iso-8859-1" [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --holland From bens Thu Sep 19 20:20:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K0Khc32679 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:20:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:20:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200020.g8K0Kgv32675@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 20 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Anyone have a good source for non-US tires? Like 8.25 R16 -------------------------- Jon Turner LifeScan, Inc. 408.956.4457 sent via Blackberry From bens Thu Sep 19 21:38:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K1cP500545 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:38:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:38:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200138.g8K1cOH00541@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > >Anyone have a good source for non-US tires? Like 8.25 R16 Bill's Tires in Pacheco, Calif., 925-689-2678 has Michelin tires like the XZL for the best price I've heard of in the US From bens Thu Sep 19 22:25:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K2PC900766 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:25:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:25:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200225.g8K2PCI00762@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James, I don't know if you have Les Schwab in Arizona. I had good luck there, getting a different sized tire for Melanie's car. Costco wouldn't do it. I have 215/85R16 BFG Trac Edges (it's a "G" thing) on Ziggy. I got a spare set from Wise Owl for $100 each, plus shipping. WO is still advertising having "some" left but no specifics on whether or not that size is still available. Otherwise they are NLA. Be warned: These tires are v. loud; louder than some MT treads. Might be one reason they've been discontinued. They're so loud I might have to get my AC fixed before next summer, so I can drive with the windows closed! Granny From bens Thu Sep 19 23:15:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K3FJT01006 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:15:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:15:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200315.g8K3FJX01002@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "charles chuan-chen phu" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC site has a message forum! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's great, Jason. Thanks. Charles >From: Jason Pipes >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: NCRC site has a message forum! >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:44:55 -0400 > >Eric, I believe you are correct, the time stamp is showing central standard >because the box hosting the site is located in that region. Ben, if you're >reading this, is that correct? [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From bens Fri Sep 20 01:42:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K5gaR03025 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:42:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:42:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200542.g8K5gaU03021@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine Steam Cleaning Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No, but I've washed my D90's engine and engine compartment at the carwash several times - just leave the engine running, spray it with Gunk's Foamy Engine Brite, don't direct water into the alternator, the fan or the air intake, and carry a clean terry rag or grease rag and a can of Wire Dryer or WD-40 in case it stalls and won't start - pop the cap, wipe it out, spray inside the cap with the above-mentioned products and wipe out the excess, wouldn't hurt to spray the contacts on the coil if you've got a coil. If you've got a diesel engine, omit all the rag and spray stuff ritual - you won't need to worry about the ignition components, since there aren't any. Craig Kevin Kelly wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a Land Rover engine compartment steam > cleaned in SF or Marin? > > Kevin From bens Fri Sep 20 03:14:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K7EbU03424 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:14:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:14:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200714.g8K7EbF03420@minbar.fourfold.org> From: To: Subject: Easy Finder | Automotive E-catalog Solutions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 21 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" To unsubscribe from future promotional emails from Easy Finder, please visit http://www.easyfinder.info/OptOut.html . From bens Fri Sep 20 03:24:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8K7OBt03568 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:24:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:24:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209200724.g8K7OBK03564@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Brian Foster" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was driving up the 5 Fwy thru Irvine and passed not one -- but, two -- Pinzgauers. One was green, but the other was a bright yellow. Both had Swiss markings along with SoCal club stickers. I didn't realize they could be driven that fast. My Unimog was never as fast as they were traveling along the freeway. -Brian Foster _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From bens Fri Sep 20 09:56:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KDuue05652 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201356.g8KDuua05648@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: FW: Assistance with Parts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This was sent to me at the NCRC newsletter address. Anyone have an idea where he could get fog light covers? Reply to him(Lawrence, Jeffrey D [JDLi@pge.com]), as I assume he is not on Mendo? -Rob From: StevHutch@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Your tow setup..? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] Hi Karen: What type of setup do you use to tow your Ser. III ? Do you use one of those bumper atted one, and or removable? If so did the tongue sit fairly high, and thus needing a lift ball attachment or is the height match to the Rangie ball close enough.. I want to tow mine with my rather low-slung Taurus wagon (family camping mobile) and its hitch is very low , close to 12" I think. Just wondering what others have done to alleviate this mismatch of height? - Steve Hutchins > We flat tow my SIII 88" (~ 4100 lb.) all the time using our Disco from the > San Fernando Valley to Big Bear. We usually have no problem even through > the > high desert portion with temps 90 -100+F. The last part of the drive > involves > a 16% grade on Hwy 18 ending up at ~7,000 feet. From bens Fri Sep 20 10:25:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KEPrA06084 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:25:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:25:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201425.g8KEPrA06080@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Joshua M. Sosbee" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Tires ARE a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 44 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-2-537660523 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed James Howard wrote: "The Range Rover is due for new tires, so I have been reading old threads from this list on them, and doing research on the web, as well as at my local shops. I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires is a royal pain! Does anyone else agonize over this?" James, I just went through this with my 98 Disco. I wanted good all terrain's but didn't want to spend 200 bucks a tire. After all the work, internet, phone calling etc. I found the best prices and reasonable service from "Just Tires". I went to the one in San Jose, but they are supposedly everywhere. Good selections, great prices. I got a pair of Michelin knock offs that are decent dual purpose tires, but they can get anything you need. Free rotation and balance for the life of the tires to! Thought that was cool. Hope it helps? Josh Sosbee "Drippy" '98 Disco --Apple-Mail-2-537660523 From bens Fri Sep 20 10:51:52 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KEpqM06265 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:51:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:51:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201451.g8KEpq206261@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, JDLi@pge.com Subject: Re: FW: Assistance with Parts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Lads, I don't know if they're made for later models - or even for fog lights, but Atlantic British DOES have headlight covers that snap onto the lights themselves...I t h i n k they have fog light covers, but I'm not sure...I was more interested in getting a bug deflector for my '89 than anything else at the time, but since I have noticed cracks in the lenses of both my fog lights (the OEM lights have to be replaced - there are no seperate replacement lenses - not sure about the Wipac lights), I'd be interested in finding such an item myself. Charles On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0400 "Kerner, Rob" writes: > > This was sent to me at the NCRC newsletter address. Anyone have an > idea > where he could get fog light covers? Reply to him(Lawrence, Jeffrey > D > [JDLi@pge.com]), as I assume he is not on Mendo? > > -Rob > [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Fri Sep 20 11:51:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KFpZF06692 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:51:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:51:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201551.g8KFpY106688@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] how fast was it going? When Frank and I took a test drive of one, 60-65 was it. Mehdi From bens Fri Sep 20 11:55:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KFtW006756 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:55:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:55:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201555.g8KFtVI06752@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Your tow setup..? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Steve, If you have a receiver type setup, you can buy a ball mount that has a drop of several inches. This can be mounted over the other way so it raises the ball. If you tow with too much difference in the height of the tow hitch, it can be unnerving when the towed vehicle pushes under the other ones rear when you have to stop quick. ;^) Bob B At 07:19 AM 9/20/2002, you wrote: > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 19 lines filtered. ] > > >Hi Karen: > >What type of setup do you use to tow your Ser. III ? >Do you use one of those bumper atted one, and or removable? If so did the [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 20 12:11:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KGBIw06874 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:11:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:11:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201611.g8KGBIb06870@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lawrence, Jeffrey D" To: "'Charles R Irvin'" , mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: FW: Assistance with Parts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 53 lines filtered. ] Greetings, I'll check out your tip and get back to you if I manage to uncover any news. I had thought this "quest" was going to be easy - but it has been rough sledding to date. Thanks, Jeff From bens Fri Sep 20 13:14:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KHEZ107318 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:14:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:14:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201714.g8KHEZF07314@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If anyone wants a Pinzgauer in Hawaii, there is one in the paper. Don't know whether it's the big one or little, have both types here in the past. Asking price is $11,000, if I remember correctly. Could follow up, if anyone is interested. Aloha Peter O. --- Brian Foster wrote: > > I was driving up the 5 Fwy thru Irvine and passed > not one -- but, two -- > Pinzgauers. One was green, but the other was a > bright yellow. Both had Swiss > markings along with SoCal club stickers. I didn't > realize they could be > driven that fast. My Unimog was never as fast as > they were traveling along [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 20 13:21:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KHLug07431 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:21:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:21:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201721.g8KHLuW07427@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I haven't seen a Les Schwab. In Flagstaff we have Big O, Discount Tire, Sears, plus several independents that seem to sell a lot of brands even though there is a big "Goodyear" or "General Tire" sign on their shop. Then there are a couple of shops on old Rt 66 that look like they have not changed since 1955. I never knew the Trac Edges were loud. Is it just that the Range Rover is so quiet? Granville Pool wrote: > James, > > I don't know if you have Les Schwab in Arizona. I had good luck there, > getting a different sized tire for Melanie's car. Costco wouldn't do it. > > I have 215/85R16 BFG Trac Edges (it's a "G" thing) on Ziggy. I got a spare > set from Wise Owl for $100 each, plus shipping. WO is still advertising > having "some" left but no specifics on whether or not that size is still > available. Otherwise they are NLA. Be warned: These tires are v. loud; [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- James Howard Naval Research Lab Code 7215, NPOI Project RR14, Box 447 Lake Mary Road Flagstaff, AZ 86001 +1-928-773-4868 (voice) +1-928-779-9568 (fax) James.Howard@nrl.navy.mil -or- jhoward@sextans.lowell.edu From bens Fri Sep 20 14:37:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KIbQa08041 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:37:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:37:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209201837.g8KIbQe08037@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: XZL Tires (was-Tires are a pain!) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Shane - have you run the XZL, and what did you think? Jon From bens Fri Sep 20 18:12:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KMCMH09376 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:12:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:12:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209202212.g8KMCMe09372@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR ROtors Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] charset="us-ascii" XKS has a good deal on genuine front rotors for RR through 89. $30 Ea. =20 -Rob =20 From bens Fri Sep 20 19:00:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8KN0Qk09623 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:00:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:00:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209202300.g8KN0Qf09619@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Peter Ogilvie wrote: > > If anyone wants a Pinzgauer I saw a 67? Unimog in the Bay Area Classifieds newspaper this morning. I can take a closer look and get the contact info if anyone wants. Oh, and there's a Land Rover for sale, mine. 1960 Series II 88" SW. http://www.theafrican.8k.com Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 20 22:00:29 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8L20Te10559 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:00:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:00:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209210200.g8L20Tx10555@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I haven't seen a Les Schwab. In Flagstaff we have Big O, Discount Tire, >Sears, plus several independents that seem to sell a lot of brands even >though there is a big "Goodyear" or "General Tire" sign on their shop. >Then there are a couple of shops on old Rt 66 that look like they have >not changed since 1955. > >I never knew the Trac Edges were loud. Is it just that the Range Rover >is so quiet? > Well not to argue with the Granny BUT... the Trac Edges on Gooey were amazingly quiet. That was just one of the facets of them that I loved. But I'm sure the ones on Ziggy are much wider and perhaps that is a factor. I had 7.50x16 on Gooey I believe...or the metric equivalent. Or maybe Granny runs 'em at some normal type pressure.... I used 55 PSI per the recommendations of BFG for on road driving. Gerry From bens Sat Sep 21 00:12:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8L4Cm911701 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:12:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:12:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209210412.g8L4CmZ11697@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry, > Well not to argue with the Granny No? Why the sudden change of heart? > BUT... the Trac Edges on Gooey were > amazingly quiet. That was just one of the facets of them that I > loved. But I'm sure the ones on Ziggy are much wider and perhaps > that is a factor. I had 7.50x16 on Gooey I believe...or the metric > equivalent. If I had had them on the Snark, I probably would have thought them to be relatively quiet. Hell, on it, the BFG MTs don't really seem particularly loud. I think you did have 7.50R16s on Gooey. The tread width on the 215 might be marginally wider but probably not much. Where metric tires are about the designated section width, the old sizes were not. I think I read somewhere that a 7.50 had about a 9" or so section width (almost 230mm vs my 215mm tires). > Or maybe Granny runs 'em at some normal type pressure.... I used 55 > PSI per the recommendations of BFG for on road driving. I've tried assorted pressures but am currently running about 40 psi all 'round. As I hinted, with my AC not working, I'm driving 75 mph and more with windows down and sunroof open so hear a lot more than I would if I were driving around all zipped up like normal folks. In any case, they are very much louder than my old Michelin 205s. Nevertheless, I love the Trac Edges. What a great all 'round tire. I like them so well that I bought a spare set for when these wear out. Granny From bens Sat Sep 21 02:25:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8L6Pk112900 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:25:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:25:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209210625.g8L6Pju12896@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: picture needed please Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I need a couple of pictures of rover winching, does anyone have any to send my way? Thanks Mehdi msandcdg@earthlink.net From bens Sat Sep 21 02:50:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8L6oBn13070 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:50:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209210650.g8L6oBP13066@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dammit Stirling, give up on selling the African. You know you are going to feel so guilty about posting to this list, if you sell it, that you won't know what to do with yourself. Really need to see what you can get for the Wife if she won't sell her car. Aloha Peter O. --- Stirling Anderson wrote: > > --- Peter Ogilvie wrote: > > > > If anyone wants a Pinzgauer > > I saw a 67? Unimog in the Bay Area Classifieds > newspaper this morning. I can take a closer look and > get the contact info if anyone wants. Oh, and > there's [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 21 09:12:47 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LDClv14794 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:12:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:12:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211312.g8LDClw14790@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah...and what gives with selling it AFTER it's fixed - only a few months after buying it!?!?!? That's bad karma. I know they're uncomfortable, cold-in-the-rain, hot-in-the-summer, no creature comforts whatsoever unless you're really short, leaky, and slow - but what's wrong with that? :) Charles On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:50:11 -0400 Peter Ogilvie writes: > > Dammit Stirling, give up on selling the African. You > know you are going to feel so guilty about posting to > this list, if you sell it, that you won't know what to > do with yourself. Really need to see what you can get > for the Wife if she won't sell her car. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 21 09:50:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LDoi015008 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:50:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:50:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211350.g8LDoiW15004@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Dammit Stirling, give up on selling the African. You > know you are going to feel so guilty about posting to > this list, if you sell it, that you won't know what to > do with yourself. Really need to see what you can get > for the Wife if she won't sell her car. First of all, if I recall she is not his wife. She has one vehicle that she is attached too. Stirling has two vehicles, one of which he has a history with, the other came as a fixer upper that he has worked on but not taken on trips. Of the two vehicles he wants to keep the one he has bonded with and give up the one he is in the early stages of bonding with. Second think about what you said from the other perspective. Do you feel she has less rights to her one car than Stirling has with his two? I agree that it would be nice if Stirling kept the African, bonded with it and went out trailing several times a year. But not at the cost you are suggesting. Stirling and his girl friend (sorry Stirling I only heard her name once and I forgot it) seem like nice shy kids and I personally would like to see them both become active in the Local Land Rover scene. Maybe it is right for them, maybe not. Time will tell. It is far easier to get infatuated with an idea than to fall in love with the day to day reality. TeriAnn (Not quite sure if there will be a .sig attached) From bens Sat Sep 21 10:22:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LEMuQ15179 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:22:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:22:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211422.g8LEMua15175@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > no creature comforts > whatsoever unless you're really short A friend turned me on to something. Remove the seat back. Man what a difference. I can actually get out of the vehicle and walk normal after long drives. This is a real knee saver and it's a cheep fix. Still got to figure out hor exactly I am going to move the bulkhead back 4-6 inches. But this will work in the mean time. ;) Pete From bens Sat Sep 21 10:33:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LEXcv15238 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:33:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:33:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211433.g8LEXce15234@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have to agree with TeriAnn on this one: a "mate" (for lack of a better word) that also enjoys the hobby - or at the very least is willing to give it a try, is a very important factor: if she has absolutely no intrest at all - or fears for his safety to the point that she doesn't want him to even try it, then that has to be considered in the big picture. I admit that I am VERY lucky: not only does my Janet like cars, she likes old cars, she's become very attached to old Brit cars after going to only one meet with me (Ventura), and while she is very shy when meeting new people, so far she gets along great with the friends of mine that she has met. She also likes off-roading - regardless of the number of wheels underneath her (though she really likes the Rangie off road). The only problem I see with her - and it has not become a problem yet(...), is that she encourages me! Had it not been for her, I never would have looked at that 109SW that I picked up in July, and recently, she's come to the conclusion that my Rangie is "too nice to take off roading...you need a beater Range Rover for that..."! I haven't picked up one yet - though I've looked at a couple...I have too many other things to do before even going there! I'm also glad that she also likes having large pieces of property around her home: I'm gonna need it! Charles - two car junkies are better than one On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:50:44 -0400 TeriAnn Wakeman writes: > > First of all, if I recall she is not his wife. She has one vehicle > that she is attached too. Stirling has two vehicles, one of which > he > has a history with, the other came as a fixer upper that he has > worked > on but not taken on trips. Of the two vehicles he wants to keep the > > one he has bonded with and give up the one he is in the early stages [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 21 10:49:07 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LEn7D15334 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:49:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:49:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211449.g8LEn6515330@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: picture needed please Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 21 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Check http://www.expeditionexchange.com/area51sclr/ (bottom of the page), some good pictures of Rovers winching Rovers, since about three of them were incapacitated on that trip... From bens Sat Sep 21 10:51:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LEp0O15366 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:51:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:51:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211451.g8LEp0a15362@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: Albatross Outing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 28 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Good to see everyone at the Albatross last night! Was an interesting place - good conversation and good beer, and first time I've been to a bar where you order food from the pizza delivery place! Jon Jon Turner '01 RR 4.6 HSE '93 NAS 110 412/500 From bens Sat Sep 21 11:00:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LF00C15422 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:00:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:00:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211500.g8LF00d15414@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Brian Foster" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Pinzgauers & The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Pinzgauers: They were going the better part of 65MPH. I am sure it was on the high end, but it didn't sound like they were struggling. I can't believe how far the African has come since Granville owned it, Stirling... but isn't it amazing folks? If there is a LR that seems a real part -- institution -- of mendo_recce, I think the African is pretty high on that list. What other LRs can others remember being part of the group that long? -Brian Foster _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Sat Sep 21 11:11:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LFBb315507 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:11:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:11:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211511.g8LFBW215503@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org 109 five door LRs do not have a behind the seat bulkhead, just a bolted in bar to act as a seat back retainer. The 109 2 door and 88 Carawagon conversions have the bulkhead removed. > Still got to figure out hor exactly I am going to move the bulkhead > back 4-6 > inches. But this will work in the mean time. ;) > Pete TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sat Sep 21 12:00:24 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LG0Od15754 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:00:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:00:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211600.g8LG0OG15750@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Spotted Pinzgauers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > The only problem I see with her - and it has not become a problem > yet(...), is that she encourages me! hhahahahaha Deirdre keeps asking "when am I going to start building a 110 for her" Pete From bens Sat Sep 21 12:45:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LGjb615945 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:45:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:45:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211645.g8LGjaK15941@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > 109 five door LRs do not have a behind the seat bulkhead, just a bolted > in bar to act as a seat back retainer. > > The 109 2 door and 88 Carawagon conversions have the bulkhead removed. Thankyou. Gord'n is doing some work on a 109 5 door, so I had a chance to crawl through it the other day. I didn't know that about the Carawagon conversion. My understanding is that you can get away without the bulkhead with a hard top, but not so in a soft top. My idea for the aux fual tank is that it is going to replace the bulkhead. So just need to work out exactly where I want it. One nice thing about my steering swap is that I can pull back the column and wheel into the cab as much as 4". So I should be able to make enough room for my knees and still reach the wheel :) Pete From bens Sat Sep 21 13:06:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LH6SA16053 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:06:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:06:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211706.g8LH6Ro16049@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 8 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 9/21/02 8:12:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, twakeman@cruzers.com writes: > Big Qwestion Mark? From bens Sat Sep 21 13:11:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LHBrS16084 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:11:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:11:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211711.g8LHBqR16080@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] TerriAnn mentioned the 88" Carawagon conversion. I had only been familiar with the 109" Does anyone know of an 88" conversion? As an aside, original photos of both Dave Gomes 109, and Joe E's Carawagon are visible at the Alfa Parts Exchange website. Zack From bens Sat Sep 21 15:07:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LJ7tx16547 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:07:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:07:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211907.g8LJ7sP16543@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Zacky, Here is an EBAY for an 88 top that opens. It is already sold but you can probably still see it. I know I can. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853578944&rd=1 Bob B At 10:11 AM 9/21/2002, you wrote: > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 7 lines filtered. ] > > >TerriAnn mentioned the 88" Carawagon conversion. I had only been familiar >with the 109" Does anyone know of an 88" conversion? > >As an aside, original photos of both Dave Gomes 109, and Joe E's Carawagon [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Sep 21 15:08:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LJ8sF16564 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:08:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:08:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211908.g8LJ8sZ16560@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I doubt that the hard top would give much support to the tub. You can spring out the sides, at the door, with very little force. From the 109, it looks like you need some sort of tie rod between the sides of the tub to keep them from bowing out or in. From the size and construction of the 109 piece, looks like it doesn't take a whole lot of strength, however. Don't know why your making all the fuss about the trucks being uncomfortable. I find the driving position in the 88 to be the most comfortable I've ever owned. Of course, at a short legged 5'7", I haven't had to duck under that many obstacles in my life. Aloha Peter O. --- Peter Hope wrote: > > > 109 five door LRs do not have a behind the seat > bulkhead, just a bolted > > in bar to act as a seat back retainer. > > > > The 109 2 door and 88 Carawagon conversions have > the bulkhead removed. > > Thankyou. [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 21 15:20:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LJKpL16628 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:20:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:20:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209211920.g8LJKpp16624@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Amy loves The African as much as I do, and says it'll be really sad to see it go. Her car is pretty much out of bounds... it was her dad's before it was hers and she was telling people since the 4th grade that it'd be hers someday. A '67 Nova if anyone's curious. I haven't put an ad in the newspaper or anything, I'm hoping that someone from the list will pick it up. If this darn economy would turn around I might be able to get a raise, (it's been almost two years at the same pay since I was hired.) Or if someone out there could give Amy a job.... :) I could keep it... it's just the cost of keeping it running and making rent that's making me sell it, we've eaten way too much Ramen noodles lately. ;) "Yeah...and what gives with selling it AFTER it's fixed - only a few months after buying it!?!?!?" Amy had a job at that time, so I had some extra money lying around to pay for those boxes showing up every week... :) I enjoyed all the time spent working on it. I can't wait to buy a house with a garage... Something simple... car lift, air tools, a retractable roof so I can air lift things in and out... that sort of thing. :) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 21 16:10:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LKANK16885 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:10:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:10:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212010.g8LKAN016881@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Towbar & Pinzgauers, Unimogs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] Steve writes: > What type of setup do you use to tow your Ser. III ? > Do you use one of those bumper atted one, and or removable? If so did the > tongue sit fairly high, and thus needing a lift ball attachment or is the > height match to the Rangie ball close enough.. > Hi Steve: My setup allows a fairly level height with either the tow ball on our Disco or Ford Expedition. The PO made a special heavy duty bumper for the SIII, bolted on in place of the standard one, with a heavy duty towbar which has holes for 2 pins 1/2" in diameter which go into corresponding holes in vertical parts made of steel plate welded onto the bumper. The towbar is thus removable by pulling the pins which are secured by cotter pins. A hole for a third pin allows the towbar to be locked into a vertical position on the bumper too. I am going to measure the dimensions of the towbar attachment and fabricate adapters out of steel plate to allow the towbar to be used with my SIIa's standard bumper. I can take a picture of the setup if there is interest and provide a copy of my drawing for the adapter when I finish it. WRT to Pinzgauers, there is an outfit in Big Bear that is customizing them and stocking parts. I think they are going for around $9,000. There is also a UniMog for sale in my area, but I haven't had any chance to stop and get more details about it. Unfortunately, my husband was not convinced by my argument that it would make a nice camper so I won't be in the market for it. If anyone wants me to check on it though, I will as soon as I can drive again (hopefully end of week, recovering from knee surgery). Karen Sindir '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros '95 Disco EFE From bens Sat Sep 21 16:14:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LKEGi16911 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:14:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:14:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212014.g8LKEGB16907@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > ever owned. Of course, at a short legged 5'7", I > haven't had to duck under that many obstacles in my > life. > Aloha > Peter O. I am no giant either. But 25 years of skiing and climbing has played hell on my knees and ankles. I need to straighten out my legs. I can spend all day in the GMC without problem, but an hour behind the wheel of the Rover and my knees lock up. Pete H From bens Sat Sep 21 16:19:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LKJ1R16945 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:19:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:19:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212019.g8LKJ0l16941@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Here is an EBAY for an 88 top that opens. > It is already sold but you can probably still see it. I know I can. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853578944&rd= 1 I can't believe I missed that add. And he is only a ferry ride away. Pete From bens Sat Sep 21 17:21:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LLLps17239 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:21:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:21:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212121.g8LLLkj17235@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series seating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Pictures in the Carawagon page of my web site http://www.cruzers.com/%7Etwakeman/LR/Carawagons.htm > TeriAnn mentioned the 88" Carawagon conversion. I had only been > familiar > with the 109" Does anyone know of an 88" conversion? From bens Sat Sep 21 17:53:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LLrHr17374 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:53:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212153.g8LLrHP17370@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay: let's say you sell it, and spend the money on things like rent, more Ramen noodles, and such: when the money runs out & the wife still doesn't have a job (or at least, a decent one) - then what??? On the other hand, if it's running perfectly, and you use it for "special occasions" only (off-roading trips, special weekends with the Mrs.), and you have a place to park it, then it's not costing you hardly a thing to keep it - right? I'm throwing this at you, because, long before I got into Land Rovers, I had a '62 TR4, serial number 00383: this car ran great, and only needed a few minor things to make it a very reliable, everyday transport. However, I was tired of fixing all the SPOT's on it, (though I had but a very few left - like, 1 or 2) and I decided that I may be happier if I had the money instead - and something a little newer. And so I sold it, and got a 1980 Rover SD1. 10 years later, the SD1 has been sitting now, for about 4 years, and in the end, I didn't have any more money after selling the TR4 (due to things that needed attention on the SD1 - 5 out of 8 injectors needed replacement at $98.00 each - then the gearbox crapped out!), than I did before selling it, and while the SD1 is a blast to drive, it isn't the same at all (and it looks like every other modern car), and the other car I had (a MGB-GT) ended up getting smashed by a drunk driver, so I now had no backup car, AND no money. Think about it... Charles On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:20:51 -0400 Stirling Anderson writes: > > I could keep it... it's just > the cost of keeping it running and making rent that's > making me sell it, we've eaten way too much Ramen > noodles lately. ;) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 21 17:53:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LLrHU17381 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:53:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212153.g8LLrH317377@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Towbar & Pinzgauers, Unimogs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen, What happened??? Last time I saw you, you were walking just fine.You didn't try to push the outside of Rufy's envelope again, did you? Charles On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:10:23 -0400 SFmms@aol.com writes: > > (hopefully end of > week, > recovering from knee surgery). ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Sat Sep 21 18:11:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LMBG717482 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:11:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:11:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212211.g8LMBG517478@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 5 lines filtered. ] Thanks for that Bob, that is a true oddity. It's not a Carawagon, more of a twisted Dormobile. I'd like to see that up close though. Does anybody know if these were sold without the bulkhead tween the driver and cargo space? Zack From bens Sat Sep 21 18:50:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8LMoF317637 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:50:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:50:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209212250.g8LMoEb17633@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Charles R Irvin wrote: > > Okay: let's say you sell it, and spend the money on > things like rent, > more Ramen noodles, and such: when the money runs out & > the wife still > doesn't have a job (or at least, a decent one) - then > what??? Charles does have a point! After selling THe African, I paid a bit of bills, but all sorta disappeared into the bills...and I was out a wonderfull l'il Rover.. paul(seller's remorse is a bitch!) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 21 20:30:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M0UFl18074 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:30:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:30:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220030.g8M0UFb18070@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK Paul, You can buy it back in much better condition now! Bob B At 03:50 PM 9/21/2002, you wrote: >Charles does have a point! After selling THe African, I >paid a bit of bills, but all sorta disappeared into the >bills...and I was out a wonderfull l'il Rover.. > >paul(seller's remorse is a bitch!) > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Sep 21 20:36:27 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M0aRP18130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:36:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:36:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220036.g8M0aQ918126@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Albatross Outing, Rally? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wish I could have made it last night but I struck out on the babysitter search... I'd like to join up on the rally but I need either a navigator or a driver (I have a Garmin GPS) so if anyone is interested - let me know. That is if there are still spots available. -nancy (yes, my membership form and $s are in the mail :) ) nancyehart@mac.com '97 blued90 #0047 510-502-0171 On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 07:51 AM, Turner, Jon [LFS] wrote: > > Good to see everyone at the Albatross last night! Was an interesting > place > - good conversation and good beer, and first time I've been to a bar > where > you order food from the pizza delivery place! > > Jon > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Sep 21 21:38:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M1cE918439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:38:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:38:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220138.g8M1cEl18435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Albatross Outing, Rally? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, we had one with us. My son Alex is almost (3 weeks) 16, and we dragged him down for dinner with Medhi, Christine, Armand, and Ariana and then the bird. After we had just about finished our beers, they asked Alex for an ID and kicked him out. We left, driving home to Davis. If they had kicked him out earlier, he would have waited in the car. cheers, On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:36 PM, Nancy Hart wrote: > > Wish I could have made it last night but I struck out on the babysitter > search... > >> > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > From bens Sat Sep 21 22:43:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M2hcv18733 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:43:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:43:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220243.g8M2hbh18729@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > OK Paul, > You can buy it back in much better condition now! Hey! If I had the money, I would! ;-( It's a good rover! Paul > At 03:50 PM 9/21/2002, you wrote: > >Charles does have a point! After selling THe African, I > >paid a bit of bills, but all sorta disappeared into the > >bills...and I was out a wonderfull l'il Rover.. > > > >paul(seller's remorse is a bitch!) > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sat Sep 21 23:36:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M3aWw18968 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:36:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:36:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220336.g8M3aWp18964@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >OK Paul, >You can buy it back in much better condition now! > >Bob B This is like watching a tennis match... Paul, your serve. RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Sat Sep 21 23:38:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M3cEd18983 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:38:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:38:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220338.g8M3cEb18979@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Albatross Outing, Rally? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Hey, >we had one with us. My son Alex is almost (3 weeks) 16, and we dragged >him down for dinner with Medhi, Christine, Armand, and Ariana and then >the bird. After we had just about finished our beers, they asked Alex >for an ID and kicked him out. We left, driving home to Davis. If they >had kicked him out earlier, he would have waited in the car. I thought that if the place served food, and a minor was with his/her guardian, all was fine. Way too many laws in this state. RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Sun Sep 22 00:21:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M4LKG20373 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:21:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:21:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220421.g8M4LJZ20369@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Russ Wilson wrote: > > >OK Paul, > >You can buy it back in much better condition now! > > > >Bob B > > This is like watching a tennis match... Paul, your > serve. I thought I did! ;-) ...but by now you know that! Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sun Sep 22 00:25:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M4PMv20399 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:25:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:25:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220425.g8M4PLs20395@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Th and S Bennett" To: Subject: Re: Assistance with part_fog and driving light protectors/covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 58 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" "Kerner, Rob" and Charles R Irvin wrote 'Assistance with Parts (fog and = driving light covers/protectors) Another classic Brit auto group with which we're connected, The Riley = Motor Club, might locally be worth a visit to help source suitably = rugged covers. We've found bits of our Series Land Rovers and Rileys = interchangeable over the years. A Riley 2.5l engine powered a Land Rover = that accompanied a convoy of classic Rileys up to Birdsville through the = centre of Australia's arid zone a few years back. Other bits like Lucas = pumps, wipers, and lights are also interchangeable. In local classic races and road rallies see-through and especially = hinged wire mesh covers are preferred to tape over headlamps, driving = and fog lights. http://www.nobbys.net.au/~rileymc/ Contacts - Phil Soden, Mike Dean (1948 Riley Roadsters, Phil's is the = one pictured racing on the club website) I've copied this separately to 'Jeff' at JDLi. Solange Th and S Bennett - S2A109 Saf SW, S3 88 HT Ute (And 57 Riley 4/68) apg@bigfoot.com.au From bens Sun Sep 22 00:59:14 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M4xEE20669 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:59:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:59:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220459.g8M4xE020665@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #853 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles wrote: "...unless you're really short, leaky, and slow - but what's wrong with that?" If your are short and slow, that's maybe not so bad. But if you are leaky it would be hell on your sex life! ;) Mo >>Yeah...and what gives with selling it AFTER it's fixed - only a few months after buying it!?!?!? That's bad karma. I know they're uncomfortable, cold-in-the-rain, hot-in-the-summer, no creature comforts whatsoever unless you're really short, leaky, and slow - but what's wrong with that?<< ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com From bens Sun Sep 22 01:04:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M54dB20707 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:04:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:04:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220504.g8M54dD20703@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: SO's and The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > >OK Paul, > > >You can buy it back in much better condition now! Or I could. But I won't. I can't keep up with the ones I still have, let alone deal with another one. Melanie wasn't v. happy about my selling the African as she thought of it as hers and expected me to eventually restore if for her. Yeah, right! I did have some regret about selling it but got over it. I am glad to see its progress, however, and hope it finds a good home. It has now had six owners I more or less personally know or knew, including myself. It must be about 20 years ago now that I first saw it, admired it, and met its owner (Dennis Mobbs, then of Hopland). He, too, regretted having sold it and later wanted another Land-Rover. I eventually lost touch with him. Granny From bens Sun Sep 22 01:08:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8M58Zb20743 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:08:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:08:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209220508.g8M58Zv20739@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That is indeed an interesting conversion for an 88" Land-Rover. I'd heard that there was such a thing but that's the first one I've seen. John "Bug Man" Kirn (of Cloverdale) had a limestone 88" Seale Safari when I first met him. It didn't have a pop-up roof, at least not by the time he acquired it. But it did have a cut out bulkhead and some sort of folding seat arrangement for camping. I wonder who has that Rover now? It was a nice one. From bens Sun Sep 22 09:25:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8MDPpX22981 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:25:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:25:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209221325.g8MDPoT22977@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: picture needed please Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Mehdi From bens Sun Sep 22 16:19:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8MKJf424842 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:19:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:19:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209222019.g8MKJeo24838@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Tire Shopping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James wrote: > I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires > is a royal pain! I was calling around for some new tires for the HSE and I was amazed that most local shops wanted over $100 per tire more for the OEM 18" Pirellis (Costco does not sell Pirelli) than TireRack.com was selling them for. I saw an ad that said the Wheel Works chain will match any price and when I called they said that they add $15 to internet prices for shipping but still took off over $100 per tire with no hassle at all (I just printed the page from the web site). Kevin From bens Sun Sep 22 17:58:53 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8MLwrl25245 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:58:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200209222158.g8MLwqp25241@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tire Shopping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin Kelly wrote: >8< >I was calling around for some new tires for the HSE and I was amazed that >most local shops wanted over $100 per tire more for the OEM 18" Pirellis >(Costco does not sell Pirelli) than TireRack.com was selling them for. I >saw an ad that said the Wheel Works chain will match any price and when I >called they said that they add $15 to internet prices for shipping but still >took off over $100 per tire with no hassle at all (I just printed the page >from the web site). > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I have heard multiple good stories about Wheel Works. I first heard of them because they gave money to KQED radio. C From bens Sun Sep 22 19:24:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8MNOH225631 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:24:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:24:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209222324.g8MNOGW25627@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tire Shopping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org kevin, try American Tire Co. also , they will match the internet price at tirerack.com and depending on how flexible the store manager is he/she won't charge u for shipping, make sure to speak to the store manager - they have more options at their disposal, this is true at least in my experience dealing with this particular tire dealer you experience may vary, have fun fil >From: "Kevin Kelly" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "Mendo List" >Subject: Tire Shopping >Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:19:40 -0400 > >James wrote: > > > I have come to the conclusion that shopping for tires [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Sun Sep 22 20:12:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8N0CQ025828 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:12:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:12:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230012.g8N0CQQ25824@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Cc: Subject: Fog Light Covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob wrote: >This was sent to me at the NCRC newsletter address >I have a 1996 4.6 and have discovered recently that >I have damaged a fog light from some road debris. >I want <to mitigate the changes of further damage I just put StonGard brand protective film on my Range Rover 4.6 fog lights. This suff works great to protect the lights and it is so heavy duty that you can even use it after a fog light is cracked or broken to avoid replacing the light. Call 800-350-4897 to order, they make custom cut protective film for most cars. http://www.stongard.com/sgcontent/what_sgl.asp Kevin From bens Sun Sep 22 23:59:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8N3xVS27892 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:59:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:59:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230359.g8N3xVJ27888@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #854 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anybody have a good condition Series IIA/III front driveshaft they will part with? Mine had some slop in the splined joint and is chattering in 4wd. I have a pair of mint condition NOS Series III vent control assemblies to trade if anyone needs them... Mo ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com From bens Mon Sep 23 00:11:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8N4BZO28629 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:11:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:11:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230411.g8N4BZN28625@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Tire Shopping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 39 lines filtered. ] What are the diminutions for a 9.0 16? Is this a metric size and if so how do you read it? Thanks Mehdi From bens Mon Sep 23 00:21:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8N4LUP29236 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:21:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:21:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230421.g8N4LTe29232@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #854 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll have to check, but I think I do TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "mpatrykus" To: Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #854 > > Anybody have a good condition Series IIA/III front driveshaft they will part > with? Mine had some slop in the splined joint and is chattering in 4wd. > I have a pair of mint condition NOS Series III vent control assemblies to > trade if anyone needs them... > > Mo > > ------------------------------------------- > Introducing NetZero Long Distance > Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 23 00:36:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8N4aZ329370 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:36:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:36:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230436.g8N4aYA29366@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Pinzgauers & The African Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wellll, my truck was also owned by a few other Mendo characters: 1)Jimmy Patrick (published Aluminum Workhorse a few times. Also got the truck's Landrover heritage certificate). 2)Walt Swain (installed the steel sidewalled Michelins for a cancelled trip to Central America?). 3)Matt Jackson's dad (Jeff(?). Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW (owned since '97) Cotati, CA ..I can't believe how far the African has come since Granville owned it, Stirling... but isn't it amazing folks? If there is a LR that seems a real part -- institution -- of mendo_recce, I think the African is pretty high on that list. What other LRs can others remember being part of the group that long? - -Brian Foster __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 23 09:55:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NDtKD31979 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:55:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:55:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231355.g8NDtKV31975@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Door for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have for sale a right rear door for a 109 SW. The door is bare and primed. No rust. Asking $250 RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Mon Sep 23 11:38:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NFcM032662 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:38:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:38:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231538.g8NFcMP32658@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Tom Gross To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Sighting in Laguna Beach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Spent the day at Laguna Beach yesterday. Saw a very nicely done red Series 2A 109 with a tan (limestone?) sunsheet, anybody on the list? Also saw a dark green D90 in downtown Laguna. It had lots and lots of "offroad" stuff hanging off it. Also, the usual bevy of newer model (SUV-like) Range Rovers, and Discos. Tom Gross From bens Mon Sep 23 11:58:56 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NFwum00435 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:58:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:58:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231558.g8NFwuo00431@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: XZL Tires (was-Tires are a pain!) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jon, My experience is not a good example since I had them for a drive across the US in my 101fc. The XZL's I had were 9.00 16's and I got them used. I actually got 6 tires with two of them with irregular wear(cupped). Any ways I thought it would be a good idea to run the irregular tires on the rear to help wear them back to flat on my 3600 mile journey instead of wearing two of the good tires. Well the cupping actually got worse as I drove so the tires rode a bit rough; but in a 101 it was kind of hard to tell. Sold the 101 after the trip so didn't ever get any real experience with the tires. I have however heard good reports from a couple of people running the 8.25's and hope to buy a set for one of my rovers soon. At 11:37 AM 9/20/02, you wrote: >"Shane - have you run the XZL, and what did you think? > >Jon From bens Mon Sep 23 12:09:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NG9XX00510 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:09:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:09:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231609.g8NG9Wc00506@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Brian Horner To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bob, That has to be the coolest thing I have ever seen. I truly wish I would have had the opportunity to big on such a unique and useful item. Thanks for sharing! Brian On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 12:07 PM, Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi Zacky, > Here is an EBAY for an 88 top that opens. > It is already sold but you can probably still see it. I know I can. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853578944& > rd=1 > > Bob B > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.roverme.org Land Rover Community, Links and Email Services From bens Mon Sep 23 12:38:46 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NGckA00775 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:38:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:38:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231638.g8NGck200771@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....I truly wish I would have had the opportunity to bi[d]...." It looks like you still DO have a chance Brian. Looks like the auction closed with the reserve not met. Contact the seller and see what's up. -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 23 12:58:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NGwHh00969 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:58:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:58:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231658.g8NGwHn00965@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Have you talked to the seller. The bid did not get up to the upset price, it could still be available. Aloha Peter O. --- Brian Horner wrote: > That has to be the coolest thing I have ever seen. > I truly wish I would > have had the opportunity to big on such a unique and > useful item. > > Thanks for sharing! > > Brian > > Hi Zacky, > > Here is an EBAY for an 88 top that opens. > > It is already sold but you can probably still see > it. I know I can. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853578944& __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 23 13:37:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NHbjs01343 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231737.g8NHbiP01339@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Curtin, Gerald" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Selling my Marine Blue 72 NAS Series III Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Folks, I hate to say it, but after a torrid 4 year love affair [with my truck] I've decided (this week) to sell my 1972 NAS Series III. I wanted to run it past everybody on the list this week before I try to sell it in the paper in about 1-2 weeks from now because I would love to keep it in the area. Some of you might have seen it at the most recent Mendo (Marine Blue with white tropical top and galvanized roof rack), or at the Palo Alto car show a couple of weeks ago. Here are the details: It has been in Southern & Northern California for all but 1 year of its life (I bought it in Chicago, and brought it out here). THERE IS NO RUST! It is in great condition and is my daily driver (I'll let the pics speak for themselves). Overall, the engine is strong (for an unmodified 2.25) and clean with a bunch of new parts that I have put on, and a recent tune-up. Vapor-lock has been a random annoyance when it gets really really hot out, or when sitting around and engine heat builds up (happened at Mendo), but I have a fuel pump rebuild kit that should solve the rare problem. It has about 105K miles on it from what I can tell. With the exception of a finnicky 2nd gear synchro during downshift (you have to double clutch for this gear), the transmission is strong off and on road. Fairey Overdrive will get you between 60-65 MPH on the road--this does not include hills! :) Interior is clean with seats and other upholstery in excellent condition--majority is original (I don't have the door panels). Dunlop Mud Rover Tires have about 3/4 of their tread still on--fantastic tires for off-roading. Also included is a full soft top set with rear hatch that is in excellent condition (refer to pictures). All in all, this is a very capable, straightforward, well loved, and clean rover. I am looking for approx. $8800 dollars for it, OBO within reason. For those who are interested, you can give me a call to discuss details and take a look at it/test drive it at 408 839-3495 (cell)-- I live in Palo Alto. You can also check out high resolution pictures (click on them to enlarge) at: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/geraldcaca/rlst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//pho tos.yahoo.com/bc/geraldcaca/lst%3f%26.dir=/Series%2bIII%26.src=ph%26.view=t New engine pics will be posted shortly as I have replaced the radiator with a new one... And yes, I will be getting another Rover because I am a convert--it's just a matter of time!!! :) -Gerald This email contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose this message to anybody or the information contained herein. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From bens Mon Sep 23 13:46:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NHkQG01429 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:46:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:46:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231746.g8NHkPP01425@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Brian Horner To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, Yeah, I sent him an e-mail but he already sold it. ;o( The X-Panda Cab totally reminds me of my old VW Westfalia, what good times I had with that thing... One thing can be for sure, I will never miss another X-Panda Cab that hits eBay again. ;o) Wish me luck! Brian On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 09:38 AM, Gomes, David wrote: > > "....I truly wish I would have had the opportunity to bi[d]...." > > It looks like you still DO have a chance Brian. Looks like the auction > closed with the reserve not met. Contact the seller and see what's up. > > -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 23 14:08:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NI8Nt01600 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:08:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:08:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231808.g8NI8N701596@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires are a pain! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I find tire shops vary a lot in whether they will sell you other tires for Range Rovers -- some insist on the genuine ones and some don't care. Even within chains (such as Wheelworks) there is variability -- I got my 245/75 Bridgestone MTs at one of them. Cheers John James Howard wrote: > I have not had the problem with getting different sizes installed. I have > 245/70R16s on right now, which are a little wide for my taste. The only > reason I have that size is someone sold 5 almost brand new tires to me for > $100. > > I had a local shop that I loved - fixed flats for free, even when I ddin't > get the tires there. They got me some 165R14's for my MGB when noone else > would. They have a new manager now who wouldn't listen to me when I told > him what I wanted for the Range Rover. [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 23 14:12:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NIC1U01641 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:12:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:12:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231812.g8NIC1G01637@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Selling my Marine Blue 72 NAS Series III Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:37 AM 9/23/2002, Gerald Curtin wrote: >And yes, I will be getting another Rover because I am a convert--it's just a >matter of time!!! :) Hi Gerald, If you are going to get another in time, I wonder why the heck you would sell this one (No rust etc.) Bob B From bens Mon Sep 23 14:12:04 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NIC4W01655 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:12:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:12:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231812.g8NIC4q01651@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Brian, I imagine a handy person could separate the roof from the galvanized gutters and add hinges and locking snaps and canvas to make your own. (canvas from an upholstery shop of course!) BTW, if you get in contact and buy this top, let us know. I didn't notice that it didn't sell. I probably should have mentioned it on the list when I first noticed it but I didn't realize someone might be interested in it. I had it in My watch it list on EBAY. Bob B At 09:09 AM 9/23/2002, you wrote: >Bob, > >That has to be the coolest thing I have ever seen. I truly wish I would >have had the opportunity to big on such a unique and useful item. > >Thanks for sharing! > >Brian > [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 23 14:17:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NIH1F01698 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:17:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:17:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200209231817.g8NIH1L01694@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, Speaking of conversions, I recall seeing a writeup in Pop Mechanics or POP Science lots of years ago of a west coast company that put a cab over camper into/onto a 109. Bob B At 10:46 AM 9/23/2002, you wrote: >Dave, > >Yeah, I sent him an e-mail but he already sold it. ;o( > >The X-Panda Cab totally reminds me of my old VW Westfalia, what good >times I had with that thing... One thing can be for sure, I will never >miss another X-Panda Cab that hits eBay again. ;o) > >Wish me luck! [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 23 18:09:49 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NM9na03703 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:09:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:09:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232209.g8NM9no03699@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Range Rover Seat Switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....I figured I'd install suppression diodes...." I was going to use a capacitor across the switch contacts. You know, kind of like the condenser placed across the breaker points to stop arcing there. But I am the farthest thing from electrically capable, so let me know if I'm wasting my time. -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 23 18:27:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NMRPI03854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:27:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:27:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232227.g8NMRPw03850@minbar.fourfold.org> From: BSharp4601@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 27 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 9/23/2002 3:12:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, owner-mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org writes: > BTW, if you get in contact and buy this top, let us know. I didn't notice > that it didn't sell. I probably should have mentioned it on the list when I > > first noticed it but I didn't realize someone might be interested in it. I > had it in My watch it list on EBAY. > Bob B > I think Rovers West (Tucson) may have had one a while back. I don't know what kind of shape it is in. If any one is interested I could contact them. Bob Sharp Tucson, AZ The slumbering herd on the Rover Ranch: 52 Series I 80" 53 Series I 80" 60 Series II 88" 63 Series IIa 88" 71 Series IIa 109" 96 Discovery Series I "Why is it that every project you complete on a Land Rover results in knowledge and skills you hope you never need to use again?" From bens Mon Sep 23 18:37:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NMb8A03910 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:37:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:37:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232237.g8NMb8q03906@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Front Series Driveshaft Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I threw out a relatively brand new driveshaft (6K miles) because my friendly driveline shop didn't mention the slip joint was bone dry and to grease before any usage. Those bellow boots do a good job of covering everthing up....... Now I'm running another new driveshaft (end to end) with the scraper type slip yoke seal. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW .......Anybody have a good condition Series IIA/III front driveshaft they will part with? Mine had some slop in the splined joint and is chattering in 4wd. I have a pair of mint condition NOS Series III vent control assemblies to trade if anyone needs them... Mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 23 18:47:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NMlsV03999 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:47:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:47:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232247.g8NMlsf03995@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Sighting in Laguna Beach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Spent the day at Laguna Beach yesterday. Saw a very nicely done red Series >2A 109 with a tan (limestone?) sunsheet, anybody on the list? Also saw a >dark green D90 in downtown Laguna. It had lots and lots of "offroad" stuff >hanging off it. Also, the usual bevy of newer model (SUV-like) Range >Rovers, and Discos. > >Tom Gross There's a guy in Laguna with a dormie that has seen better days. He has a homemade canoe rack welded to the roof so that the top won't even open. RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Mon Sep 23 18:59:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NMxKq04072 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:59:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:59:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232259.g8NMxJ404068@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Kieckhefer To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: Bell housing for Sale.... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I realize that there is little demand, but in cleaning out my Garage, I stumbled uponI the Bell Housing from my 1967 109 NADA 6cyl. It is prestine ! and I would like to get 50 bucks for it . John K 67 109 Mutt From bens Mon Sep 23 19:40:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8NNeUT04295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:40:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:40:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209232340.g8NNeTT04291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: My semi-noisy lifter just went permanently noisy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org __________________________________________________ The suspect: '90 RR - 3.9 The mileage: 160k - but unknown engine history, other than it has that "dark-gold" coating inside the rocker covers. It was either rebuilt a few years ago, doubtful from the overall look of the engine. Or it was a swap-out from unknown source. The issue: A lifter on #1 piston (farthest forward, drivers side) thinks its in a diesel. This lifter has been problematic for months as it would clackety-clack for several seconds on start-up, but always went quiet. Until now. I drove up to Auburn Fri. afternoon and when I stopped in town, the lifter clackety-clack could not be ignored. Oil level was about 3/4 down from full...topping off didn't lessen the noise. Drove back down to Land Rover Rocklin to have the service dept. take a look. Thus the diagnosis, at no charge to me. Well, they COULD have nailed me for a $95 diagnosis, but no need to tear into anything at that point They said it could be driven as any damage has already happened and it won't hurt to drive it , but take care of it A.S.A.P. Better to hear from them than "Luke's Goodyear Tires and Sandwich's" The question now is what to do. Anyone with experience in lifter repair please comment. Thanks, eric From bens Mon Sep 23 21:37:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O1bUB04918 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:37:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:37:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240137.g8O1bTW04914@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On the way home, on the light rail in San Jose, I saw across St. James Park going south on Second street a dark green 109 three door panel truck, couldn't tell what series it was cause I could only see it from side on. And then while walking home from the light rail I saw ANOTHER dark green series, again couldn't tell what series cause it was side on... but this one was an 88" with a drab paint job, the 109 was pretty shiny. Anyone?? Oh, and I saw an H2, also dark green. Is someone trying to tell me something?? Stirling. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Mon Sep 23 22:04:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O246105058 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:04:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:04:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240204.g8O246K05054@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Selling my Marine Blue 72 NAS Series III Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm sorry to see that there'll be one less Rover in the neighborhood! I can attest to this vehicle's road speed. I have to think about it to keep up with Gerald (from my 110) when we end up on 101 together. C Curtin, Gerald wrote: >Hey Folks, > >I hate to say it, but after a torrid 4 year love affair [with my truck] >I've decided (this week) to sell my 1972 NAS Series III. I wanted to run it >past everybody on the list this week before I try to sell it in the paper in >about 1-2 weeks from now because I would love to keep it in the area. Some >of you might have seen it at the most recent Mendo (Marine Blue with white >tropical top and galvanized roof rack), or at the Palo Alto car show a >couple of weeks ago. Here are the details: It has been in Southern & [ 40 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 23 22:28:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O2SvE05231 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:28:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:28:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240228.g8O2SvI05227@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Bell housing for Sale.... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hang it from a tree with a clapper and a piece of birmabright to catch the wind. Should make a cool low dunk noise. When we were grad students living on Olive Dr. (for all you ex-Davis folks), someone had a similar thing, pretty neat. cheers, On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 03:59 PM, John Kieckhefer wrote: > > I realize that there is little demand, but in cleaning out my Garage, I > stumbled uponI the Bell Housing from my 1967 109 NADA 6cyl. > It is prestine ! and I would like to get 50 bucks for it . > > John K > 67 109 Mutt > From bens Tue Sep 24 00:10:40 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O4Ae406718 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:10:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:10:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240410.g8O4Aeq06714@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Have you talked to the seller. The bid did not get up > to the upset price, it could still be available. > > Aloha > Peter O. I have sent him 2 emails already. He is local to Seattle. Also asked a few others in the club if they knew about it. Nothing yet, but hoping. Pete From bens Tue Sep 24 01:13:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O5Dco07759 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:13:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:13:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240513.g8O5DbA07755@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Miles O'Leary Mulcare M.O.M." To: Subject: Re: Does anyone know a good Land Rover mechanic in the Portland, Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know a good Land Rover mechanic in the Portland, OR area? If possible please email me directly @ mulcare@lclark.edu . MILES 503.768.8132 From bens Tue Sep 24 01:21:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O5LhU07818 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:21:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:21:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240521.g8O5Lgl07814@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Stirling Anderson wrote: > > On the way home, on the light rail in San Jose, I saw > across St. James Park going south on Second street a > dark green 109 three door panel truck, couldn't tell > what series it was cause I could only see it from side > on. And then while walking home from the light rail I > saw ANOTHER dark green series, again couldn't tell > what series cause it was side on... but this one was > an 88" with a drab paint job, the 109 was pretty [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Cool! don't know of these two....unless the 88" was Mable? or did it get re-painted? can't recall anymore.. > Oh, and I saw an H2, also dark green. Ugg! ;-( I like the Hummer (wouldn't own one, but can appreciate the hum-vee varient...the H2 is justy not equal in looks....maybe i'll end up liking it in years? nah! > Is someone trying to tell me something?? Yes! keep The African! ;-) .......and if you have the desire for a green one, feel free to come by and drive Elgie whenever you want! ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 24 01:57:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O5vhC07976 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:57:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:57:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240557.g8O5vh407972@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi Brian, > I imagine a handy person could separate the roof from the > galvanized > gutters and add hinges and locking snaps and canvas to > make your own. > (canvas from an upholstery shop of course!) hmmmm! not what I had imagined actually. I have alays thought it'd be better to have the hinge-point below the galvy capping to give more strength to the raised roof...but it may be fine w/o doing that. another idea I'd like to try would be to make a fiberglass mold of a good strait roof, than take a dinged up one and cut away all except for the few inches in from the galv....than ecer so slightly bend this sction in to make room for the canvas...and than add the new fiberglass roof section as Bob suggested. Have a look at Teriann's site. there should be some other options there. incl a german fellow who came up with a side folding version of this. Paul > >That has to be the coolest thing I have ever seen. I > truly wish I would > >have had the opportunity to big on such a unique and > useful item. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 24 02:11:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O6B8A08061 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:11:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:11:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240611.g8O6B8H08057@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Paul Archibald wrote: > Ugg! ;-( I like the Hummer (wouldn't own one, but > can > appreciate the hum-vee varient...the H2 is justy not > equal > in looks....maybe i'll end up liking it in years? > nah! I don't like them much either... it's not utilitarian looking enough... as it should be. IMHO > > Is someone trying to tell me something?? > Yes! keep The African! ;-) > .......and if you have the desire for a green one, > feel > free to come by and drive Elgie whenever you want! I don't know... all that Merc horsepower would scare the hell out of me. :) Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 24 03:10:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8O7ApA08282 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:10:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:10:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209240710.g8O7Ap508278@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I like the H2 as a mall cruiser and may trade the Porsche and series in on one! TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day > > > --- Stirling Anderson wrote: > > > > On the way home, on the light rail in San Jose, I saw > > across St. James Park going south on Second street a > > dark green 109 three door panel truck, couldn't tell > > what series it was cause I could only see it from side > > on. And then while walking home from the light rail I [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Sep 24 09:30:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8ODUM810089 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241330.g8ODUMT10085@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I like the H2 as a mall cruiser and may trade the Porsche and series in on >one! > Save your money. The H2 is mostly Chevy Tahoe parts under that sexy brick-like skin. Spend the same $ on a used "real" hummer. Just a thought. Then again you could just buy a Tahoe... RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Tue Sep 24 11:26:13 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OFQDd10780 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:26:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:26:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241526.g8OFQDo10776@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Joshua M. Sosbee" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: History Question for the List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know if Land Rover ever produced the "Gun Tractor" or "Big Lightweight". I don't know its official name or if it ever made it past prototype, but this thing is awesome! I just found it in my Hayne's manual and looked it up on the web. Check it out if you haven't seen it! http://4wd.sofcom.com/LandRover/Proto/3LgunT.html Josh Sosbee "Drippy" 98 Disco From bens Tue Sep 24 11:50:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OFoBH10948 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:50:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:50:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241550.g8OFoA210944@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "Mendo Recce (E-mail)" Subject: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 56 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" There are some lots of bulk shirts and hats for sale on ebay. I don't need 73 shirts or 54 hats, but at that price I would be interested in some of them. If a few of you would like to split this we could all get a great deal, and I would be willing to make the purchase / bring to the mendo rally. 73 Land Rover golf shirts - $583.27 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717390585 54 Land Rover hats - $215.46 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717391973 13 Polar Fleece vests http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717391564 Jon Jon Turner '01 RR 4.6 HSE '93 NAS 110 412/500 From bens Tue Sep 24 11:54:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OFsIY10982 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:54:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:54:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241554.g8OFsHX10978@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: mmulcare@mac.com Subject: Re: Does anyone know a good Land Rover mechanic in the Portland, Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Aloha. Not sure about Portland, but the best Rover mechanic in the NW is Gord'n Perrot of G&G Services in Seattle.206 361 7002 If the 2 hour drive is too far, give him a call and ask if he knows of one. Gord'n is also the president of the Pacific Coast Rover Club, so if anyone would know of someone in Portland, he would. Do you live in Portland or just broke down there? > Does anyone know a good Land Rover mechanic in the Portland, OR area? > > If possible please email me directly @ mulcare@lclark.edu . > > MILES > > 503.768.8132 > > From bens Tue Sep 24 11:59:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OFxNx11033 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:59:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:59:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241559.g8OFxNc11029@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah.. Now that the H2 is on the market, the military is now allowed to surplus H1's. Seems that the typical asking price from surplusers at present, is $27,500 for a really nice one. Charles On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0400 Russ Wilson writes: > > >I like the H2 as a mall cruiser and may trade the Porsche and > series in on > >one! > > > Save your money. The H2 is mostly Chevy Tahoe parts under that sexy > > brick-like skin. Spend the same $ on a used "real" hummer. Just a > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From bens Tue Sep 24 12:10:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OGAgR11117 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:10:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:10:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241610.g8OGAgK11113@minbar.fourfold.org> From: David Guinivere To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="us-ascii" ] [ 57 lines filtered. ] --=====================_407566299==_.ALT Jon, I'd be willing to take some off your hands.... 2 Shirts XL - any 2 colors except red 1 Vest XL - any color 1 cap or hat If you end up buying these and can fill my order (in part or in full) let me know. -DTG (daveg@globes.com) At 11:50 AM 9/24/2002 -0400, you wrote: > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 56 lines filtered. ] >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >There are some lots of bulk shirts and hats for sale on ebay. I don't need [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --=====================_407566299==_.ALT From bens Tue Sep 24 12:33:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OGXgc11230 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:33:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:33:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241633.g8OGXgt11226@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow, not bad at all! I did the math, if 36 people each chip in 6 bucks each of the 36 would get two LR shirts. Not bad at all. Count me in as long as we can get 34 other people to do the same. So? Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Tue Sep 24 12:35:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OGZiu11262 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:35:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:35:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241635.g8OGZia11258@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: LA SUVs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I thought I'd share this. It really cracked me up, and since they do talk about the Range Rover and H2 in the article, I thought some here might be interested. Rest assured that, although the overall numbers are smaller, and the percentage using them off-road is even smaller yet, there are still some folks using Gs the way they were intended (though mostly older ones, not so much the G500s). This article is a real hoot though. :^) If it doesn't come through, I might have to tweak it a bit and retry. Dave G. September 15, 2002 The Beverly Hills-Mobile By MICHAEL WALKER LOS ANGELES -- Driving an intimidating vehicle is the leitmotif of personal style in Los Angeles, where acts of brazen self-possession are as prevalent as Botoxed brows. So it's not surprising that the Mercedes-Benz G500 S.U.V. has found a happy home here. Los Angeles practically created the urban S.U.V. craze in the aftermath of the 1992 riots, when navigating the city in an armored personnel carrier of the mind suddenly seemed prudent and, once the dust had settled, roguishly stylish. Until recently, the G500 was not regularly seen in the United States. It is a gentrified version of the Gelaendewagen, or G-Wagen, built in Austria since 1979 under the Mercedes badge and sold in Europe, primarily to the military. The only way Americans could secure one was to pay as much as $135,000 to have a European model upgraded to comply with safety and emission standards in the United States. Because of the price and logistics involved, the trickle of G-Wagens into this country collected in places with buyers for whom cost is largely conjecture, which is to say East Hampton, Beverly Hills and Malibu. None of this was lost on DaimlerChrysler, the parent of Mercedes-Benz, which in December began offering the G500 through its American dealers at a list price of about $73,000. The company had hoped to sell 1,500 G500's this year; it now expects to sell 2,200 to 2,300. "It's beyond our wildest expectations," Fred Heiler, a spokesman for Mercedes-Benz USA, said. In Los Angeles, the G500 has supplanted, in spirit if not in numbers, the hunter-green Range Rover and the tuxedo-black Lexus, BMW and Mercedes sedans as the dominant power vehicle. "All the celebrities have this car," said Cassio Mastropietro, valet manager at the Ivy, the Beverly Hills power-lunch institution. "J.Lo, Eric Clapton." He pauses. "Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit." Mr. Mastropietro said his valets park two to three G500's a day, casual evidence that it is successfully hitting its low-key Q ratings. Ted Mason, director of new car sales at Mercedes-Benz of Beverly Hills, said, `We're getting sticker, and sometimes two or three grand over sticker" price for the vehicles. Diane Keaton purchased a G500 from his dealership, Mr. Mason said, and Brad Pitt just bought two. Mercedes will allocate 40 G500's to his dealership this year, compared with 400 of its cheaper M-class S.U.V.'s - which, for the typical G500 buyer, is the point. "This vehicle's status, besides the Mercedes-Benz status, is that there are so few of them on the road," Mr. Mason said. The G-Wagen is suited to Los Angeles's marble-floored-garage demographic, which seeks a vehicle owned by as few as possible but which compels contemporaries to buy one, leading to everybody in the caste driving the same three or four models of car before the cycle begins anew. "Arnold Schwarzenegger shows up with one, and the next thing you know some movie producer calls up and says, `Got any more?' " said Russell Leabch, sales director for Europa International Inc., the New Mexico company that imported and modified the European-spec G-Wagens. Karl Brauer, editor in chief of Edmunds.com, an automotive Web site, made the point: "In L.A., it's most important to drive a vehicle you don't see every 10 minutes, that manages to break out of the typical Southern California motoring atmosphere. And it's not easy to do that." Evi Quaid, a producer and director, said she waited nine months for a G500, which she leases. "I think it's the ultimate mix of basic and luxury," she said, "so for me it's like the perfect pair of jeans." Mrs. Quaid, who is married to the actor Randy Quaid, said her husband's reaction was: "How can you drive that car? It's a nerdmobile." A friend told her that all the powerful female producers and agents of Beverly Hills drove them. Mrs. Quaid insisted the car's status holds no appeal. "But there is something very tempting in something so well made," she said. "I've had my Kelly bag for 17 years. This car, it feels solid. I expect to have it 10 years." As a fashionable antifashion statement, the G500's boxy, Bauhaus-Teutonic silhouette, which also evokes Hemingway on the savanna, could scarcely be mistaken for the modern, wind-tunnel-derived luxury S.U.V.'s from Lexus, BMW and Mercedes itself. And while the G-Wagen is legendary for soldiering through off-road conditions that would maim lesser vehicles, few of those sold will tangle with terrain more daunting than the Pasadena Freeway, a point driven home by the G500's interior, which rivals the Mercedes S-class sedan for opulence. "The contrast," Mr. Brauer said, "is one of the most bizarre dichotomies I've ever experienced driving a car." But all the burled wood and leather in the world can't stop the G500's origin from revealing itself, said Larry Webster, Car and Driver magazine's technical editor. "The G500 is a very utilitarian vehicle with a spruced-up luxury element," Mr. Webster said. "It's nowhere near the luxury of a Range Rover. You get into a Range Rover, it's like a car, it's comfortable. The G500 just isn't. Ergonomically, there are some flaws. The doors are hard to open. If the G500 had come out 10 years ago when S.U.V.'s were in their infancy, it would probably be O.K." "Today," Mr. Webster continued, "you've got the Range Rover, BMW X5, Mercedes ML55. The way to look at the G500 is that it's a perfect example of conspicuous consumption. There is no reason to drive it other than not everybody has one." Mr. Heiler, of Mercedes-Benz USA, says that nevertheless, the G500 "is still a very usable car," adding, "There are no tradeoffs in having a bulletproof vehicle to go down to the grocery store, in some luxury, to get a gallon of milk." Mr. Mastropietro, of the Ivy, hoots with derision when asked to compare the G500 with the Range Rover. "It's a lot better than the Range Rover," he said. Now that hoi polloi can shamble into a Mercedes dealer and acquire a G500 for the price of, well, a Range Rover, will it lose its "It" edge? More to the point, will it share the cachet-killing ubiquity of the Mercedes M-class, a favorite of Beverly Hills soccer moms that looks like a kiddie car by comparison? Once supply catches up with demand, it will lose its luster, Mr. Mason predicted. And what about the redesigned Hummer H2 - the civilian spawn of the United States armored vehicle in the Persian Gulf war - which lately has been turning heads around town at the sorts of places the G-wagen has had to itself? It is fitting that a pair of former military vehicles may be poised to do battle on the streets of Los Angeles, using buzz instead of bullets. Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company From bens Tue Sep 24 12:41:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OGfVg11306 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:41:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:41:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241641.g8OGfUh11302@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LA SUVs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not just LA. There are 3 new G500s in the neighbourhood - all driven by soccer moms. Frank ----------------------------------------- Gomes, David wrote: >I thought I'd share this. It really cracked me up, and since they do talk >about the Range Rover and H2 in the article, > From bens Tue Sep 24 12:41:58 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OGfwC11323 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:41:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:41:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241641.g8OGfwC11319@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: My semi-noisy lifter just went permanently noisy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, Could it possibly be just a bit of crud that's blocked the oil passage into the lifter? I know there are engine (internal) cleaners on the market. Maybe try one of those? If that doesn't work you'll need to pull the intake and rockers from the offending side to get the lifter out. I have also always been advised not to run new lifters on an old cam, or vice-versa since the faces need to wear-in to mate to each other and a cam lobe that's worn in to another lifter will wear out a new lifter very quickly, introducing wearing metal into the oil stream all the while. It might be prudent to consider replacing the cam and all lifters as a set, especially in a higher mileage motor of questionable prior care. The cam will mean quite a bit of extra work though as you have to pull the radiator, water pump/front cover off the motor to get it out. -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 24 13:05:08 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OH58511473 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:05:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:05:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241705.g8OH57t11469@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: My semi-noisy lifter just went permanently noisy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org David, Thanks for replying and helpful as usual. I may end up doing this myself, but I have a few questions. I was advised to run about a 5 to 1 ratio of oil to ATF in the engine for about a thousand miles. The ATF will dissolve any varnish or other crude in the passages. Some else would run a qt. of diesel instead of ATF... that sounds too severe. Maybe, maybe not. Im running 20-50 Amsoil now, and have been for the last 8K miles. Maybe the synthetic oil broke something loose? Any harm in switching back to dino oil with ATF for awhile? I wouldn't think so. How long can the RR be driven in its present condition without causing harm to other components. The service dept. implied what's done is done and you can drive it indefinitely. If you can stand the noise. I'll start with the fluids, and go from there. Thanks Again, Eric >>> david.gomes@gambrobct.com 09/24/02 09:41AM >>> Eric, Could it possibly be just a bit of crud that's blocked the oil passage into the lifter? I know there are engine (internal) cleaners on the market. Maybe try one of those? If that doesn't work you'll need to pull the intake and rockers from the offending side to get the lifter out. I have also always been advised not to run new lifters on an old cam, or vice-versa since the faces need to wear-in to mate to each other and a cam lobe that's worn in to another lifter will wear out a new lifter very quickly, introducing wearing metal into the oil stream all the while. It might be prudent to consider replacing the cam and all lifters as a set, especially in a higher mileage motor of questionable prior care. The cam will mean quite a bit of extra work though as you have to pull the radiator, water pump/front cover off the motor to get it out. -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 24 13:35:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OHZCr11992 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241735.g8OHZC611988@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK, I'm good for up to $10, for 2 shirts. 33 more? cheers, On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Jason Pipes wrote: > > Wow, not bad at all! > > I did the math, if 36 people each chip in 6 bucks each of the 36 would get > two LR shirts. Not bad at all. Count me in as long as we can get 34 other > people to do the same. > > So? > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Sep 24 13:35:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OHZNg12010 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241735.g8OHZNH12006@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: My semi-noisy lifter just went permanently noisy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hiya, When I thought my Tiger had a sticky lifter (wasn't) there was a particular product recommended to me to dissolve goo and potentially free sticky lifters. Instead of ATF or Diesel, I would check the additive aisle of your local autoshop. Sorry I can't remember the name, but it came in a plastic oil bottle and you used it like a quart of oil. throw some suggestions out, I bet I'll remember. Of course, as mentioned, you really shouldn't change one lifter but the whole shippfitter's thing starts pretty quick: change lifters, change cam (possible with engine in car?), change what else? cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Sep 24 13:39:20 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OHdKv12042 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:39:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:39:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241739.g8OHdKY12038@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: My semi-noisy lifter just went permanently noisy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thinning the oil with ATF as a cleaning agent is something I've done myself with no ill effects (on a chevy 4.6 V8). I was just reluctant to offer it as "advice". The commercially available cleaners are probably a better idea, IMHO. I think Amsoil even has a product they sell as a cleaner to be used before you make the switch from dino to synthetic. With so much potential work on the line, I'd want to have my best chance of success with the cleaners before I dismiss them as not effective. I'd probably spend a few bucks for a good commercial cleaner like the one from Amsoil. Maybe even discuss it with their tech people. I'd feel better about the need for the tear-down if the decision was based on effectiveness (or lack thereof) of a commercial cleaner used as directed vs a home brew. Just my own feeling. As far as how long you can go without further problem....No telling. I have driven cars with clattery hydraulic lifters thousands of miles. But, you are certainly outside of the design specification window and who knows how much margin is in the tolerance stack-ups of the rest of the parts in the chain. Can't help with that one. -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 24 14:12:25 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OICP412480 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:12:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:12:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241812.g8OICPr12476@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LA SUVs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Gomes, David" wrote: Los Angeles > practically created the urban > S.U.V. craze I saw something on tv this weekend... maybe Car and Driver television, that younger people aren't buying SUV's anymore because that's what Mom drives... Brad Pitt just > bought two. Great story... I had a friend in Bozeman Mt, who was on mental-medical disability, and Brad Pitt came into the coffee shop there... he told us about this, and we were saying, "Wow, that's cool, what'd you do??" and so on asking whether he talked to him or anything. He looked at us straight in the face, calm as could be, and said: "I spit on him." as if we should have known that's what you're supposed to do to a famous Kaliforian in Montana. Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Tue Sep 24 14:23:16 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OINGC12555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:23:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:23:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241823.g8OINGQ12551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: mechanics in Portland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Doug Shipman 503-525-5566, none better Daniel From bens Tue Sep 24 15:04:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OJ4XJ12873 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:04:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:04:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241904.g8OJ4Wm12869@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: LA SUVs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...."I spit on him."...." Totally priceless! -Dave G. From bens Tue Sep 24 15:19:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OJJZt13006 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:19:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:19:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209241919.g8OJJZK13002@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > >I like the H2 as a mall cruiser and may trade the Porsche and series in on > >one! > > > Save your money. The H2 is mostly Chevy Tahoe parts under that sexy > brick-like skin. Spend the same $ on a used "real" hummer. Just a > thought. Then again you could just buy a Tahoe... I'm aware of that, I don't want a real hummer, I think it looks cool! TomW > > > RW > -- > Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat > From bens Tue Sep 24 17:22:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OLMMB13915 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:22:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:22:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209242122.g8OLMLn13911@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: History Question for the List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, > Does anyone know if Land Rover ever produced the "Gun Tractor" or "Big > Lightweight". I don't know its official name or if it ever made it > past prototype, but this thing is awesome! Sorry to say, that awesome LR was not produced. Granny From bens Tue Sep 24 17:33:34 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OLXYw13976 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:33:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:33:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209242133.g8OLXXf13972@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: History Question for the List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200209242122.g8OLMLn13911@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > Does anyone know if Land Rover ever produced the "Gun Tractor" or "Big > > Lightweight". I don't know its official name or if it ever made it > > past prototype, but this thing is awesome! > Sorry to say, that awesome LR was not produced. One sad thing about that LR (now at Dunsfold) is that one of the 101 power trailers (the one that Dunsfold has), had it's diff and drivetrain removed and a pintle ring welded on for testing with that Big Lightweight. So that power trailer is in poor shape. Ben From bens Tue Sep 24 18:07:15 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8OM7Fu14288 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:07:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:07:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200209242207.g8OM7Ed14284@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: D110 aircon: epilogue Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I received quite a few suggestions from many of you when I asked a while back about whether to make the switch from R12 to R134a after my receiver/drier sprung a leak. Thanks for the input-- I went for the conversion, driven by my concern for the ozone layer (plunking down $$$ for now- and future-needed R12 had nothing to do with it, really). The conversion went fine from a technical perspective, though subjectively, the output at the vents does not seem as cool as before (in an NAS D110 the output is never really COLD). Had a problem in the parts though-- the original receiver is now NLA and superseded. Of course that requires a new high pressure switch and wiring harness. Not a big deal. BP got them (genuine) cheaper than RN (which is interesting because in my experience genuine from BP is almost always more expensive than RN). Problem was that receiver/drier arrived (in a rather battered, taped and re-taped genuine LR box) with the input/ouput pipe caps missing! Which likely meant the receiver/drier had probably already done all the drying it was ever going to do while sitting on the shelf! BP overnighted me a new one a couple days later. In other news, about a month ago I replaced my aging OME springs with new ones-- same as before: HD front, MD rears. I also replaced my worn out OME shocks with Bilsteins. With the truck empty or lightly loaded, the ride is great. But with heavier loads, I feel the shocks are not providing as much damping as I would like-- funny because I feared they would be too stiff. Plus, Chris D scared me with his comments about downright bad handling with a similar spring/shock combo on G. Overall, I am quite happy, though if OME shocks were longer-lived, I'd go with them again next time. Cheers, Blair From bens Wed Sep 25 00:06:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8P46Sa16094 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:06:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:06:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200209250406.g8P46S516090@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Turner, Jon [LFS]" wrote: > There are some lots of bulk shirts and hats for sale on > ebay. I don't need > 73 shirts or 54 hats, but at that price I would be > interested in some of > them. If a few of you would like to split this we could > all get a great > deal, and I would be willing to make the purchase / bring > to the mendo > rally. John, count me in for two large shirts, a large fleece vest, and a hat! ;-) the more teh merrier interesting how they do not have any imags on ANY of their auctions... Paul > 73 Land Rover golf shirts - $583.27 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717390585 > > 54 Land Rover hats - $215.46 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717391973 > > 13 Polar Fleece vests > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=717391564 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Wed Sep 25 01:34:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8P5YU917736 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:34:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:34:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200209250534.g8P5YTX17732@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: lro@koan.team.net Cc: "Mendo_Recce" Subject: Off Road Adventure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just wanted to pass this along. If you are looking for something a bit different, feel like a trip to Seattle, and have the weekend free Oct 12th, take a look at www.pcrc.net and sign up for the North West Challenge. This is a Rover only off road event. A long difficult weekend, possibly even damaging, but worth the adventure. Pete From bens Wed Sep 25 10:06:00 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PE60E20177 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:06:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:06:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251406.g8PE60X20173@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Chair with side table Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 30 lines filtered. ] charset="us-ascii" I know many have envied my folding chairs with side tables. I have looked and looked and cannot find them anywhere. Here is a Cabelas chair that has one side table... =20 http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml? id=3D0006815514185a&navAction=3Djump&navCount=3D11&indexId=3D&podId=3D000= 6815&cata logCode=3DQN&parentId=3D&parentType=3D&rid=3D =20 -Rob From bens Wed Sep 25 14:25:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIPbS22097 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:25:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:25:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251825.g8PIPbJ22093@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am trying to put the truck back together. Notice I said TRY!! I have new T frames and they don't exactly fit in. What are tricks or ways of making tem fit? Where the meet the tub (the up right section) does not meet up. Any ideas? T frames are from RN. Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 25 14:35:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIZX822238 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:35:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:35:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251835.g8PIZXH22234@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Bulk Land Rover shirts / hats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am in Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 25 14:39:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIdUR22285 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:39:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251839.g8PIdUd22281@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: jjp4th@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mehdi, I think I remember Joe Palacek going through this not too long ago. Also think he got several suggestions from the list. Good luck, Bob B At 11:25 AM 9/25/2002, you wrote: >I am trying to put the truck back together. Notice I said TRY!! I have new >T frames and they don't exactly fit in. What are tricks or ways of making >tem fit? Where the meet the tub (the up right section) does not meet up. >Any ideas? T frames are from RN. > >Mehdi From bens Wed Sep 25 14:43:32 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIhWK22338 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:43:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:43:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251843.g8PIhVr22334@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: diagnostic advise? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 42 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" I've not cured the ills with the drive train on the D130:=20 The car won't move in an un-locked center diff, only with the diff = locker engaged. However, the front prop shaft turns when the transfer case is = unlocked....so..... I think I have a problem, NOT with the transfer case, but with the front = diff or CV joints. Does anyone have suggestions on how to further identify the source of = the problem, so that I can go about the repairs. Would draining the diff = oil, and looking for strands/chunks of metal be a good next step? And = doing the same at the wheels if nothing is revealed at the diff? Hmmmmm? Any ideas? Thanks, Daniel From bens Wed Sep 25 14:53:12 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIrCL22416 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:53:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:53:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251853.g8PIrC922412@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, Do you subscribe to the LRO list? My friend Bill Rice (on that list I think) replaced the t-pieces on his 109, and I think he had the new ones galvanized before he put them on. So if anyone should know about "adjustments" to get them to fit, it would be him. That's one part of his rebuild that I wasn't present for though, so I can't say for sure just what he did, or the exact order of attachment to get them all happy. I think he started with the attachment of the t-pieces to the tub and worked his way forward to the bulkhead, and then finally attached the tub to the chassis with whatever spacers were necessary. Does that make sense? -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 25 14:57:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PIvov22467 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:57:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251857.g8PIvof22463@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: diagnostic advise? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org jack up one front wheel(opposite wheel must be on ground) off the ground and attempt to spin. If wheel spins check to see if driveshaft is also spinning. If DS is not spinning problem is along that axle/CV. If vehicle is in gear then the wheel should not spin but will have a fair amount of movement to rock back and forth. >The car won't move in an un-locked center diff, only with the diff = >locker engaged. >However, the front prop shaft turns when the transfer case is = >unlocked....so..... > >I think I have a problem, NOT with the transfer case, but with the front = >diff or CV joints. > >Does anyone have suggestions on how to further identify the source of = [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Sep 25 15:11:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PJBcX22625 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:11:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:11:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251911.g8PJBc822621@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: diagnostic advise? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sounds like you're on the right track suspecting the front axle. With both wheels on the ground you should NOT be able to spin the front drive shaft. Your best bet is probably to put the thing up on four jack stands, and then verify expected behavior of individual components independently. You'll need a friend to help. 1- transmission in gear, park brake OFF, center diff open 2- hold one front tire stationary and spin the other 3- front prop shaft should spin, and rear prop shaft should spin opposite direction 4- lock center diff 5- repeat step 2 and front and rear prop shafts should spin same direction 6- apply park brake 7- repeat step two, the prop shaft should not spin, and you should not be able to spin the other tire If either front tire can be spun with the other held stationary, diff locked, trans in gear, and park brake ON, then you have something (CV, axle, splines, drive flange) gone amis in the front axle. Of course, it could just as well be a problem at the rear (axle, spline, flange), but it's a little tougher to test that as you have to hire a neighborhood kid to act as the park brake on the front drive shaft. Either that or let the front wheels down and chock them after you've verified the front end is working properly. -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 25 15:53:30 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PJrUj22942 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:53:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:53:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209251953.g8PJrUk22938@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am not on the LRO list. Can you give me his eamil please. What you describe is a bit hard to do, but I can see it. you have to have your bulkhead pulled forward, put everything in and then pull the bulkhead back. Mehdi I think he started with the attachment of the t-pieces to the tub and worked his way forward to the bulkhead, and then finally attached the tub to the chassis with whatever spacers were necessary. Does that make sense? -Dave G. From bens Wed Sep 25 19:19:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8PNJpI24078 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:19:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:19:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209252319.g8PNJoH24074@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Brian Foster" To: Subject: OT: Is someone on mendo near Flagstaff AZ? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Seems to me someone on mendo_recce was in/near Flagstaff. I am considering asking a huge favor (non-LR car for sale inspection). Contact me directly at roundel@hotmail.com - Brian Foster From bens Wed Sep 25 23:41:54 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8Q3fsD25256 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:41:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:41:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200209260341.g8Q3frM25252@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I am trying to put the truck back together. Notice I said TRY!! I have new >T frames and they don't exactly fit in. What are tricks or ways of making >tem fit? Where the meet the tub (the up right section) does not meet up. >Any ideas? T frames are from RN. > >Mehdi Rivit to the tub then use leverage to bolt them up to the bottom of the bulkhead. RW -- Blaming Guns for Crime is Like Blaming Spoons for Rosie O'Donnell Being Fat From bens Thu Sep 26 16:30:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QKUoo31821 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:30:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:30:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262030.g8QKUos31817@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: rover rivets Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I lost all mail a while back. There is a place in SF for getting quality rivets. Can someone that has the message or the info, send a copy to me? I would appreciate the part the numbers and the phone number. Thanks Mehdi From bens Thu Sep 26 18:02:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QM2m132367 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:02:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:02:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262202.g8QM2m832363@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the day off work in order to get my brake and lamp inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. You would not believe the trouble involved in what I would think should be a simple procedure. Again, I am shocked and amazed at the loss of resident rights here. After several places telling me that they cannot perform it on The African because it is too old, and they do not have a book that shows the specs for the shoes, and other misc information, I finally found someone who was actually polite, who had some customer service skills, spoke fluent english, and would even take a look at it. He informed me it would take three hours, and walked around The African pointing out a cracked lens saying it would not pass, pointed at a turn signal and said it was too faded to pass... etc. etc. etc. *SIGH* So, it's to BP I call in order to spend around a hundred dollars in order to make my 1960 Land Rover have 2002 turn signals and brake lenses so that I can legally drive it in this police state. Which don't fit the way mine do, and will just look silly next to the old faded, scratched, dented paint. It's really unfortunate the way people haven't noticed the slow, creeping ivy of the loss of thier personal rights, and only shout for more laws in order to be controlled more and more by a government that has gotten too engorged for it's own good, and the good of it's citizens. I'm a little pissed... if you couldn't tell. Take care everyone! Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 18:05:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QM5m932403 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:05:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:05:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262205.g8QM5mn32399@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the day off work in order to get my brake and lamp inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. You would not believe the trouble involved in what I would think should be a simple procedure. Again, I am shocked and amazed at the loss of resident rights here. After several places telling me that they cannot perform it on The African because it is too old, and they do not have a book that shows the specs for the shoes, and other misc information, I finally found someone who was actually polite, who had some customer service skills, spoke fluent english, and would even take a look at it. He informed me it would take three hours, and walked around The African pointing out a cracked lens saying it would not pass, pointed at a turn signal and said it was too faded to pass... etc. etc. etc. *SIGH* So, it's to BP I call in order to spend around a hundred dollars in order to make my 1960 Land Rover have 2002 turn signals and brake lenses so that I can legally drive it in this police state. Which don't fit the way mine do, and will just look silly next to the old faded, scratched, dented paint. It's really unfortunate the way people haven't noticed the slow, creeping ivy of the loss of thier personal rights, and only shout for more laws in order to be controlled more and more by a government that has gotten too engorged for it's own good, and the good of it's citizens. I'm a little pissed... if you couldn't tell. Take care everyone! Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 18:23:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QMNtu32513 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:23:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:23:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262223.g8QMNtX32509@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stirling, don't worry, there are many of us here who obviously love CA and the Bay Area but who are also not so fond of the police state that has grown (and is growing) up all around us, from the little things to the big things. You are 100% correct though, most people are content to ask for or sit idle while new laws and regulations are created and put forth by the dozens that further restrict our rights and freedoms. And no, I'm not a right wing wacko either, just a level-headed guy without any political or religous affilitaions that is tired of people on both sides of the spectrum making my life more and more difficult. Sorry, now you've got me started. Anyway, sorry you had a bad day!! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com 1993 NAS Land Rover Defender 110 #165/500 From bens Thu Sep 26 18:49:36 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QMnaq32725 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:49:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:49:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262249.g8QMnaH32721@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, Don't wory, it'll go back together! I replaced my RH T frame with the same LR "110 style" unit. Mine eventually went in OK to the point where I could easily take it out a few times just to make sure I was properly sealing it. Anyway, the only true fixed datum point was the bulkhead attachment to truck frame mounting pin. Is your alignment concern regarding the T frame's length or "twist"? If features aren't aligning lengthwise, your reinstalled bed may need to be pushed around a bit. If the problem is with twist, then the T frame may need twisting in another direction (for that matter, maybe the T frame was bent "shorter" during transit). Are the rear crossmember to bed mounting tabs (visible from rear of truck) straight? Is the problem on one side or both sides of truck? Do you want me to come over? Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW ps. Those new T frames have 10mm captive nuts for the seatbox attachment. Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:25:37 -0400 From: "Mehdi Saghafi" Subject: Help_109 T frame and Tub I am trying to put the truck back together. Notice I said TRY!! I have new T frames and they don't exactly fit in. What are tricks or ways of making tem fit? Where the meet the tub (the up right section) does not meet up. Any ideas? T frames are from RN. Mehdi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 18:53:22 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QMrMK00303 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:53:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:53:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262253.g8QMrLt32767@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Stirling Anderson wrote: > > Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the > day off work in order to get my brake and lamp > inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. > You would not believe the trouble involved in what I > would think should be a simple procedure. Again, I am > shocked and amazed at the loss of resident rights > here. After several places telling me that they > cannot perform it on The African because it is too [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] That is fuqued up! (hey is't not swearing if I mis-spell, right?) Also the reason Elgie is now on temp tags! with-out the elgie66 plates I paid for twh yeaers ago! ;-( I'm still looking for a shop that isn't such a nazi place and will realisticly look at an old truck and pass it on it's merrits! Supposedly one somewhere in Hayward... So did you have to replace all the lenses? ;-0 I epoxy'ed my cracked brake lens with a hole, hoping that would pass, but now I fear it wil not! If I need to replace all, I will go back to my favorite old-styld glass military screw-in ones as Surely had, but that's another $100 also... ;-( what a PITA! > will just look silly next to the old faded, scratched, > dented paint. how do you dent paint? it's too thin to dent! ;-) Sounds like we may need to get together tonight drive our temp-tagged oil dripping beasties in front of a pub somewhere and have a pint? give me a call! Paul cell 408-313-1289 Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 19:52:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8QNqV100634 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:52:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:52:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200209262352.g8QNqVX00630@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Brian Horner To: untzu_2002@yahoo.com Cc: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stirling, Our laws are centered around the concept that we are all raving idiots with no common sense, intelligence or self control. They assume if their is no law in place to prevent people from killing themselves, we will all go kill ourselves. I was just in Bali and it was so refreshing to climb over huge temples with no big yellow guard rails to prevent me from jumping to certain death. I held onto the back of a bus going 50MPH through crowded villages, went SCUBA diving without filling out a waver and it felt great. We have sued and voted all the fun things out of our daily lives and thus removing personal choice from the individual. A perfect example of personal rights loss is the fact that I can't buy a Defender because it does not have an airbag - isn't that supposed to be my choice? Anyway - I totally see your frustration. I just read Michael Moore's new book "Stupid White Men" and now I just have to laugh at it all. Anyway - good luck with the African... Brian On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 03:02 PM, Stirling Anderson wrote: > > Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the > day off work in order to get my brake and lamp > inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. > You would not believe the trouble involved in what I > would think should be a simple procedure. Again, I am > shocked and amazed at the loss of resident rights > here. After several places telling me that they > cannot perform it on The African because it is too [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.roverme.org Land Rover Community, Links and Email Services From bens Thu Sep 26 20:32:47 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R0WlH00825 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:32:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:32:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270032.g8R0WlP00821@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stirling Anderson wrote: >Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the >day off work in order to get my brake and lamp >inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. > What requirement is this? Frank From bens Thu Sep 26 20:52:44 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R0qiZ00916 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:52:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:52:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270052.g8R0qip00912@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Franklin H. Yap" wrote: > > Stirling Anderson wrote: > > >Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the > >day off work in order to get my brake and lamp > >inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. > > > > What requirement is this? They now require a brake and light inspection for any old land-rover owned by me apparently! ;-( .....but seriously, it's for when vehicles are off teh books for either a long time or after getting a salvage title apparently. The African had been off the books for twenty-odd years or so.....and even though I do have a full legal standard "rainbow" (used to be pink...) slip for Elgie, the p/o's insurance managed to file a salvage claim for it months later(even though they legally only have thirty days to do so.......) Now they required me to turn in my valid non salvage reg. in exchange for a salvage one, and are requiring that I get a brake-n-light inspection, as well as verification by a policeman or DMV nazi etc... This is all bull-shit! and I have decided to try to fight it now as it was not my mistake, but the insurance company and DMV. Not that I care, but the resale value of Elgie is severly inpinged by having a salvage title! ;-( I don't plan on ever parting with either of my cirrent Rovers, but it's the whole principal of the thing. A friend in the spridget community is going otr get me in tough with the Cal-DMV attournet who just happens to have a midget himself so is going to hopefully be favorable to a fellow british car enthusiast...(crossing fingers) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 21:48:31 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R1mVF01244 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:48:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:48:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270148.g8R1mUn01240@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Stirling Anderson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Paul Archibald wrote: requiring that I get a brake-n-light > inspection, as > well as verification by a policeman or DMV nazi > etc... > This is all bull-shit! Yes, rightly so. I took a nap, and calmed down a bit... :) What he told me they are going to check is to make sure I have enough material on my shoes, enough drum material left, the wiring needs to be checked, said something about the width of the brake lines, the flex hoses... etc. etc. Where he is going to get all this information besides the Green bible, I haven't got the foggiest. I wonder if the horn is included in this... I still haven't got a new one. However, otherwise I should be good, thanks to all the work you did Paul. Thanks! :) I'll keep everyone posted. Stirling __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Thu Sep 26 22:44:42 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R2igR01568 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:44:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:44:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270244.g8R2ifI01564@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: re. Help_109 T frame and Tub Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I will be at it Sat. If you are around the area, stop by. I will confirm the size and twist with the old T frame first, then attach it to the tub and then the bulkhead. or any other possible combo. Mehdi From bens Thu Sep 26 22:45:37 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R2jbu01605 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:45:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:45:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270245.g8R2ja601601@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: When did it get this bad?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stirling, Sorry to hear. My experiences in Davis have been much more pleasant, licensing Elvis without a title from Maine, because it was too old. they don't title things over 10 years (?) but the rest of the paperwork checked out. Titling a wreck in my garage that hadn't been registered in 15 years. even got to keep the old black plates! The state is amazing. On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 03:02 PM, Stirling Anderson wrote: > > Well, honestly, it hasn't been a good day. I took the > day off work in order to get my brake and lamp > inspection done, and get it "verified" at the DMV. > You would not believe the trouble involved in what I > would think should be a simple procedure. Again, I am > shocked and amazed at the loss of resident rights > here. After several places telling me that they > cannot perform it on The African because it is too [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Sep 26 23:03:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R33QM01718 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:03:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:03:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270303.g8R33Pd01714@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 88 conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 16 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 9/23/02 9:10:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brian@roverme.org writes: > Bob, > > That has to be the coolest thing I have ever seen. I truly wish I would > have had the opportunity to big on such a unique and useful item. > > Think about hitting 60 on some long downhill, and the top flying. Wow! Airbrakes! Zack From bens Thu Sep 26 23:22:33 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R3MXr01811 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:22:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:22:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270322.g8R3MXK01807@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Yet more Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 15 lines filtered. ] While about the State's business driving down Hwy 49 south of Mariposa en route Oakhurst. Sighted ; A LR series Ambulance parked at a home about 1 mile south of the rental yard. A impeccable Series 2-A at the gravel yard in Oakhurst at the intersection of Hwy 49 and Hwy 41. A blue series with bare aluminum roof on 49 between the two prior sightings. Spoke with the owner of the 2-A at the gravel yard. He'd been the mechanic at the LR dealer in Oakhurst, back in the days of British Leyland. Woo! Neat. From bens Fri Sep 27 00:38:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R4cZ403485 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:38:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:38:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270438.g8R4cY603481@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: NCRC RALLY POSTPONED Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bad news for all planning on attending the NCRC rally. I'm having to postpone the dates to a currently undetermined time. Due to recent significant vehicle damage (no major personal damage fortunately) I've been unable to do the final prep and scouting for the rally and won't have a suitable vehicle in time to run the event. Rather than run an event that wouldn't be much of a challenge and probably less fun for those involved, I've decided to postpone the event until I can run one that I think will be worth attending. I'll be contacting all the registrants individually over the next day or two . If you have any questions by all means contact me off list and I'll do my best to answer them in a timely manner. Sorry folks, Jeremy From bens Fri Sep 27 02:20:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8R6KZh03926 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 02:20:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 02:20:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200209270620.g8R6KYV03922@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Folding chairs with side tables Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 13 lines filtered. ] Rob writes: > I know many have envied my folding chairs with side tables. I have > looked and looked and cannot find them anywhere. Here is a Cabelas > chair that has one side table... > COSTCO had the same chairs for $14.99 each, very good quality, so we bought 4. However, such items are seasonal (summer) and depend on their ability to acquire them at a good price (I asked). Karen Sindir From bens Fri Sep 27 06:03:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RA3fR04981 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:03:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:03:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271003.g8RA3f804977@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Th & S Bennett" To: Subject: Re: Rear diff filler plug 'mystery' Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 60 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Help! Can anybody help point me towards a solution to a differential = without an apparent filler plug? I've just bought a 'new' Series 3 SWB and after getting it home and = checking the oils and cleaning up around the underside I've discovered = an anomaly, I think: there's no rear diff filler hole or plug. Now, it's = really not a Salisbury - nor a Jeep or an Oka, even. Moreover, I've = since opened the workshop manual, and confirmed that all Rovers have a = differential filler plugs and holes - the rear housings have a plug at = about the 8 o'clock position looking back from around the gearbox. Have = I missed something? Has anyone had a similar experience? (The only known = history before I bought it was that a previous owner had replaced the = differentical centres with units from a Range Rover.) Could a previous = owner may have assembled two dissimilar components, and might the only = way to get oil in be through the end of the axle by taking a halfshaft = out and jacking up that side? Does anyone have a suggestion - apart from pouring the oil down through = the axle housing and eventually rebuilding the housing? I have taken low res photographs back, top, and front if anyone can help = off-list. Please?=20 Solange=20 apg@bigfoot.com.au=20 S2A 88, S2A 109, S3 88, S3 88 (I think) From bens Fri Sep 27 09:37:35 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RDbZS06005 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:37:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:37:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271337.g8RDbZf06001@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: NCRC RALLY POSTPONED Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" Jeremy - Sorry to hear about your problems! Hope everything will be okay? Jon From bens Fri Sep 27 10:03:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RE3f606167 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:03:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:03:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271403.g8RE3fe06163@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: rover rivets Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, Here's a company in SF where I bought my rivets. http://www.rjleahy.com/ Bob B At 01:30 PM 9/26/2002, you wrote: >I lost all mail a while back. There is a place in SF for getting quality >rivets. Can someone that has the message or the info, send a copy to me? I >would appreciate the part the numbers and the phone number. > >Thanks >Mehdi From bens Fri Sep 27 10:07:38 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RE7ce06196 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:07:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:07:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271407.g8RE7cM06192@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: NCRC RALLY POSTPONED Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org :( << From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rear diff filler plug 'mystery' Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, I recall someone having this same problem a while back. I think it was on the LRO list. All I recall is someone else said some front diffs didn't have the filler plug because there is a filler in the front housing. So those couldn't be used in the rear. It doesn't make sense to me to have two different units though. Bob B At 03:03 AM 9/27/2002, you wrote: >Help! Can anybody help point me towards a solution to a differential = >without an apparent filler plug? > >I've just bought a 'new' Series 3 SWB and after getting it home and = >checking the oils and cleaning up around the underside I've discovered = >an anomaly, I think: there's no rear diff filler hole or plug. Now, it's = >really not a Salisbury - nor a Jeep or an Oka, even. Moreover, I've = >since opened the workshop manual, and confirmed that all Rovers have a = >differential filler plugs and holes - the rear housings have a plug at = [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 27 10:14:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8REESD06284 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:14:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271414.g8REERv06280@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Rear diff filler plug 'mystery' Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not that this applies to LR. But Morris Minors had fill plugs in different locations depending on the year. One location is on the axel casing pumpkin, and the other is on the diff unit. If you by chance mixed an axel casing and a diff from the wrong years you could get a non fillable diff.... Possible this happened to LR too? -Rob From bens Fri Sep 27 11:47:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RFlhL07184 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:47:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:47:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271547.g8RFlgK07180@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Yet more Re: Extra eventful sighting day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Zack, There was a member of the old LROA who lived down that way. He had a good number of series trucks,and a few years ago he bought two more from a guy in Nevada city. Did you notice the OLD wrecking yard on the right side of 49 Several miles south of Mariposa? There were a lot of very old cars up in the woods. I forget the name though. Bob B At 08:22 PM 9/26/2002, you wrote: >While about the State's business driving down Hwy 49 south of Mariposa en >route Oakhurst. Sighted ; > >A LR series Ambulance parked at a home about 1 mile south of the rental yard. > >A impeccable Series 2-A at the gravel yard in Oakhurst at the intersection of >Hwy 49 and Hwy 41. > >A blue series with bare aluminum roof on 49 between the two prior sightings. [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 27 12:14:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RGEpX07349 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:14:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:14:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209271614.g8RGEp607345@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rear diff filler plug 'mystery' Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I ran into this problem in Africa when one of the guys had a rear diff failure(or was that 2). Anyways LR made both housings with the filler hole and housings without. The housings without had the filler hole in the 3rd member. Since you've had the 3rds swapped out for RR units you have to fill it through the axle or fix it by: getting a housing with the filler hole. cutting and welding in a filler hole cutting and welding a new "sewer cap" cover with a filler hole. swapping back to the series diff with the filler hole. or filling through the axle end. PS I might have a rear housing, I'd have to check to see if it has the filler hole. regards, Shane >Help! Can anybody help point me towards a solution to a differential = >without an apparent filler plug? > >I've just bought a 'new' Series 3 SWB and after getting it home and = >checking the oils and cleaning up around the underside I've discovered = >an anomaly, I think: there's no rear diff filler hole or plug. Now, it's = >really not a Salisbury - nor a Jeep or an Oka, even. Moreover, I've = >since opened the workshop manual, and confirmed that all Rovers have a = >differential filler plugs and holes - the rear housings have a plug at = [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Sep 27 18:30:28 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RMUSm10115 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:30:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:30:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272230.g8RMUR810111@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: rover rivets Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Bob, can you give me the part number or the specs? Thanks Mehdi From bens Fri Sep 27 18:36:17 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RMaH710160 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:36:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:36:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272236.g8RMaH810156@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Joe Kobe" <32jrw66@yahoo.ca> To: mcfynnan@erols.com, eric-rivera@uiowa.edu, ers1@web-fx.net Subject: Have tax problems? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org
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32jrw66 From bens Fri Sep 27 18:58:26 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RMwQg10297 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:58:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:58:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272258.g8RMwP210293@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: rover rivets Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I also like RJLeahy (especially their online catalog) but Byler Rivet in Texas has a much nicer variety of structural pop rivets. Plus, they sell rivet set tools for the solid rivets. You need to request a catalog though, to see the goods. http://www.bylerrivet.com Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:03:41 -0400 From: Bob & Sue Bernard Subject: Re: rover rivets Mehdi, Here's a company in SF where I bought my rivets. http://www.rjleahy.com/ Bob B At 01:30 PM 9/26/2002, you wrote: >I lost all mail a while back. There is a place in SF for getting quality >rivets. Can someone that has the message or the info, send a copy to me? I >would appreciate the part the numbers and the phone number. > >Thanks >Mehdi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 27 19:19:19 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RNJJC10416 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:19:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272319.g8RNJJu10412@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I noticed an increasing amount of free play in my D-90's steering. Since I am have an extended warranty, I brought it in to the dealer (BMC) to check it out. They identified that the steering box was failing and they replaced it (normally a $1000 job!--no charge under the warranty). Now the steering feels much tighter, but the home position of the steering wheel does not correspond to wheels straight ahead. Straightahead is about 30 degrees off of the horizon. I find this rather disconcerting while driving, and suspect that this could be a problem off road when you really want to know where the wheels are going. I am somewhat surprised that the technicians at BMC would allow it out the door in this condition. Is this an easy adjustment? Something for concern? Randy From bens Fri Sep 27 19:27:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RNRBU10471 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:27:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:27:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272327.g8RNRBg10467@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org hi randy (cool name!) you should be able to take the steering wheel off, pop the badge of the frount of the steering wheel and there's a nut underneath, undo it pull the wheel off (can take a bit of jigging around till it comes off) Then make sure the wheels are straight and put the steering wheel back on in the correct position - job done (if only that simple!) hhhmmmm, just thought - have you got air bags fitted in this country??, not to sure what the score is with them, but there should be a way to do it? hope this helps! - tim >From: "Randy Katz" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Dodgey Defender Steering >Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:19:19 -0400 > >I noticed an increasing amount of free play in my D-90's steering. >Since I am have an extended warranty, I brought it in to the dealer (BMC) >to check it out. [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From bens Fri Sep 27 19:34:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RNYvi10517 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:34:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:34:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272334.g8RNYv110513@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- tim boorman wrote: > > hi randy (cool name!) > > you should be able to take the steering wheel off, pop > the badge of the > frount of the steering wheel and there's a nut > underneath, undo it pull the > wheel off (can take a bit of jigging around till it comes > off) [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Not in Defenders yet....just the plushies.... or you could just drive witht eh wheel slightly cocked...I've gotten used to it. When I replaced the steering u-joint I put it back ~five degrees to the right.....after a while i took it of and adjusted...now it's five degrees to the left! ;-0 I think I will disconnect the airbag in the disco and do as Tim suggests with the wheel(have planned ithat for ages, but am a lazy bugger...0 Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Fri Sep 27 19:48:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8RNmoV10621 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:48:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:48:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209272348.g8RNmnW10617@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From: Paul Archibald >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering >Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:34:57 -0400 > >--- tim boorman wrote: > > > > hi randy (cool name!) [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] just add it to the long to do list - i know what you mean though about getting the wheel straight, took me ages to get it in the right position so i just gave up and got used to it - was actually quite good in the end cos my hand would rest in the grove in the steering wheel when my elbow was resting on the window sill (altohugh its not that often i had the window open back home or i'd get wet!!!!!!) so whats the score with the air bag???, do defender have them over here, does it make it a pain in the arse to get the wheel off??? >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From bens Fri Sep 27 20:02:41 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8S02fi10735 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:02:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:02:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200209280002.g8S02fj10731@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 56 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-2--970416603 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Randy, Sounds like they forgot to re-align it after they installed the steering box. It's a simple adjustment of the steering control rod, and you could do it yourself. But I would have the dealer fix it since it was there mistake. On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Randy Katz wrote: > > I noticed an increasing amount of free play in my D-90's steering. > Since I am have an extended warranty, I brought it in to the dealer > (BMC) > to check it out. > They identified that the steering box was failing and they replaced it > (normally a $1000 job!--no charge under the warranty). > Now the steering feels much tighter, but the home position of the > steering [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Eric --Apple-Mail-2--970416603 From bens Fri Sep 27 20:41:06 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8S0f6c10956 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:41:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:41:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200209280041.g8S0f6S10952@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Dodgey Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Randy, Two things could be the culprit for your steering out-of-center: 1) steering wheel wasn't placed back correctly (easily remedied but requires a 2-bolt puller -- DON'T USE A HAMMER) 2) When steering box was replaced the proper procedure wasn't used to center the steering box, then properly attach the steering arm with wheels centered, then properly attach the steering wheel at its center position. More involved to check and resolve. clarke At 07:19 PM 9/27/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >I noticed an increasing amount of free play in my D-90's steering. >Since I am have an extended warranty, I brought it in to the dealer (BMC) >to check it out. >They identified that the steering box was failing and they replaced it >(normally a $1000 job!--no charge under the warranty). >Now the steering feels much tighter, but the home position of the steering >wheel does not correspond to wheels straight ahead. >Straightahead is about 30 degrees off of the horizon. 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To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #858 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Test On 9/27/02 3:30 PM, "Mendo_Recce digest:" wrote: > > Mendo_Recce digest: Friday, September 27 2002 Volume 02 : Number 858 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:02:48 -0400 [ 709 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Miles O. Mulcare Lewis & Clark College 615 SW Palatine Hill Road M.S.C. 1376 Portland, OR USA 97219 Dorm: 503.768.8132 Mobile: 503.332.3794 Home: 655 Marina Blvd. San Francisco, CA USA 94123-1022 415.567.1470 Alternate: milesmulcare@earthlink.net AOL Instant Messenger: milesmulcare PLEASE NOTE: This message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information. Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited by state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. From bens Sun Sep 29 05:54:09 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8T9s9g22628 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 05:54:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 05:54:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200209290954.g8T9s9J22624@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: Mendo Subject: Arrrghhh!!!!! ;-( So i's a water-pump at minimum..... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I went out for a couple drinks with friends, and started coming home and heard funny noises....but it was running fine... my room-mate mentioned smoke? coming out the rear? the water temp started coming up to 30 percent.... we were a mile from home when this happened, and realized it was condensation from the water on the manifold, so I kept going...2 blocks from home it dies dead! ;-( I open the bonnet, and find coolant everywhere. I fill the resivoir and see it pour out just as fast fromt eh pump area...looked and see the pump pulley is all cocked, so teh shaft broke I guess? (for a second the tach died, but came back...must have been whent eh chaft snapped?) we walked home, got Elgie and towed the disco home...leaving both in the street. I'll ahve to see if it will start enough when cold to pull in the drive... the engine si not hot, so I hope it was just water splashed into teh distributor...crossing fingers...I can't afford a rebuild top end if the heads warped, but it's not that hot.... oh well I'll get up in a few hours and find out I guess. anyone in the bay area have a spare coiler water pump? and as usual I will br out in the drive on Sunday wrenching on rovers, so if anyone wants to come by and watch, let me know.. looks like I'll be driving Elgie again, so it's time to re-weld the manifold which broke again.....sixth time so far....may be time to do more than patchwork on it? The problem is Clifford is the only place tha even makes a manifold for this engine, and last time I talked to them, they were waiting for more orders before making any more, hence the welding over the last two years...I just need to take it off, shorten about eight inches, weld in a new collector, and it should be better.....maybe.....but need a new collector first....and better welding skills... when it rains it pours...maybe I should finish the midget engine install first, and drive that? Paul 510-657-9637 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sun Sep 29 11:53:43 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8TFrh224067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:53:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:53:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200209291553.g8TFrgK24063@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Dodgy Defender Steering Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Randy, Whoever put your steering box in didn't center your steering properly. It's part of the job; it doesn't take that long so I'd take it back and ask to have it done without charge. If the steering is out by a large amount it may exceed the adjustment available on the drag link and then either the steering shaft needs to be recentered or the steering wheel needs to be. Jeremy (currently working at BMC) From bens Sun Sep 29 13:27:57 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8THRvY24474 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:27:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200209291727.g8THRvL24470@minbar.fourfold.org> From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: OT: Looking for "small" auto transport Ohio to SF Bay Area Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello- This is off-topic but I thought I'd ask if anyone was shipping anything from the Akron, Ohio area to the SF bay area who could help me get a microcar home? Barring that, I'd appreciate suggestions for an auto transport company. I know Keith Sukait has suggested TNTauto transport, are there any other good ones? The car (Vespa 400) is approx. 50" wide, and less than 10 feet long. thanks in advance, Carl Kruger San Jose, CA 07:19 PM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Seems to me someone on mendo_recce was in/near Flagstaff. I am >considering asking a huge favor (non-LR car for sale inspection). >Contact me directly at roundel@hotmail.com - Brian Foster From bens Sun Sep 29 13:36:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8THajc24532 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:36:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:36:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209291736.g8THaii24528@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Looking for "small" auto transport Ohio to SF Bay Area Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 66 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-1--820773718 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Carl, Wow! A vespa 400. I didn't know there were any in the states. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions for shipping, but I just think those micro cars are interesting. I have several vespas myself (none are cars). I wouldn't mind checking it out some day (if you get it here). Eric On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 10:27 AM, carl kruger wrote: > > Hello- > > This is off-topic but I thought I'd ask if anyone was shipping anything > from the Akron, Ohio area to the SF bay area who could help me get a > microcar home? Barring that, I'd appreciate suggestions for an auto > transport company. > > I know Keith Sukait has suggested TNTauto transport, are there any other [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Eric --Apple-Mail-1--820773718 From bens Sun Sep 29 14:15:01 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8TIF1n24705 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:15:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:15:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209291815.g8TIF0h24700@minbar.fourfold.org> From: jory@org.org To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Looking for "small" auto transport Ohio to SF Bay Area Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org i'd like to see it too. last year i shipped an isetta (partially disassembled) from sf to georgia by general shipping in a crate for around $1K (if the auto guys balk at the odd size.) though i guess that would be pretty price for a 400, as i recall the are still relatively affordable? ::jor At 10:27 AM 9/29/2002, you wrote: >Hello- > >This is off-topic but I thought I'd ask if anyone was shipping anything >from the Akron, Ohio area to the SF bay area who could help me get a >microcar home? Barring that, I'd appreciate suggestions for an auto >transport company. > >I know Keith Sukait has suggested TNTauto transport, are there any other >good ones? The car (Vespa 400) is approx. 50" wide, and less than 10 feet [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Sep 29 15:23:05 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8TJN5O25061 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:23:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:23:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200209291923.g8TJN4e25057@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Arrrghhh!!!!! ;-( So i's a water-pump at minimum..... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ok, so this morning it started up enough to pull in the drive and shut down fast as it's w/o coolant (or anything else powered by teh serpentine belt(turning was a bitch!!!) so it appears the water pump shaft didn't break...but apparently the impeller came off the end!! ;-0 it's hanging out as faaar as it can, blades of teh fan resting against the freshly re-built radiator with no damage! I'll take off the bad water-pump after lunch and than see what to do.....again, anyone in the area with a spare pump I could buy/borrow/etc. to get me back on the road, I'd be appreciative. The dealer is too pricy and since I have thrown away my credit cards, I can't buy from BP unless sending a cheque by mail, and that takes even more time...which I really do not have right now. I fear that the pump dying may have caused me to toast the engine. ;-( se'll see after I get a replacement pump in there, but when the waterepump went of my audi, I had to re-do the top end....so it looks like I may have two 3.9 engined coilers to re-do the heads now as I was just about to tear the heads off Joe Ernests this week. maybe I'll get a package deal? ;-) (hopefully mine are ok though Paul --- Paul Archibald wrote: > > I went out for a couple drinks with friends, and started > coming home and heard funny noises....but it was running > fine... my room-mate mentioned smoke? coming out the > rear? > the water temp started coming up to 30 percent.... we > were > a mile from home when this happened, and realized it was > condensation from the water on the manifold, so I kept [ 53 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bens Sun Sep 29 21:36:51 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8U1ap727160 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:36:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:36:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200209300136.g8U1apd27156@minbar.fourfold.org> From: postmaster To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Undeliverable mail--"win.window.focus()" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 3 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ application/octet-stream; ] [ application/octet-stream; ] [ 1749 lines filtered. ] --Nj90Q689U5 From bens Mon Sep 30 01:38:48 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8U5cm129697 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:38:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:38:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200209300538.g8U5clv29693@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: Looking for "small" auto transport Ohio to SF Bay Area Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Carl, I'm a little late getting to this, but I just used Dependable Auto Shippers to ship a car from North Carolina. They were recommended to me buy a buddy who builds (and ships) race cars around the country, usually in enclosed transporters, due to their value, but when he's shipping something more in my price range this is who he uses. I dealt with Armando - it's 800-226-1083, ex. 661. He's in their Gardena, CA office. They've been great so far - car's not here yet - you can check back in about a week and I should know if it made it on time and one piece. Craig carl kruger wrote: > Hello- > > This is off-topic but I thought I'd ask if anyone was shipping anything > from the Akron, Ohio area to the SF bay area who could help me get a > microcar home? Barring that, I'd appreciate suggestions for an auto > transport company. > > I know Keith Sukait has suggested TNTauto transport, are there any other > good ones? The car (Vespa 400) is approx. 50" wide, and less than 10 feet [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Sep 30 10:42:02 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UEg2Y32563 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:42:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:42:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301442.g8UEg2332559@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Oluwafunmi Williams" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Goodday Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Attn: mendo_recce , My name is Oluwafunmi W, the manager, credit and foreign bills of Ecobank Plc. I am writing in respect of a foreign customer of my bank with account number 14-255-2004/utb/t who perished in a plane crash [Korean Air Flight 801] with the whole passengers aboard on August 6, 1997. Since the demise of this our customer, I personally has watched with keen interest to see the next of kin but all has proved abortive as no one has come to claim his funds of usd.20.5 m, [twenty million five hundred thousand united states dollars] which has been with my branch for a very long time. On this note, I decided to seek for whom his name shall be used as the next of kin as no one has come up to be the next of kin. And the banking ethics here does not allow such money to stay more than Six years, because money will be recalled to the bank treasury as unclaimed after this period. In view of this I got your contact through a trade journal after realizing that your name and country is similar to the deceased. I will give you 25% of the total. Upon the receipt of your response, I will send you by fax or e-mail the application, bank's fax number and the next step to take. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this business is hitch free and that you should not entertain any fear as all modalities for fund transfer can be finalized within five banking days, after you apply to the bank as a relation to the deceased. When you receive this letter. Kindly send me an e-mail signifying Your decision including your private Tel/Fax numbers for quick communication. Respectfully submitted, Oluwafunmi W, From bens Mon Sep 30 10:51:18 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UEpIU32661 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:51:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:51:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301451.g8UEpIl32657@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Turner, Jon [LFS]" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Goodday Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 23 lines filtered. ] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Wow, we're rich! More Land Rovers for everyone! :) Jon -------------------------- Jon Turner LifeScan, Inc. 408.956.4457 sent via Blackberry From bens Mon Sep 30 10:52:23 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UEqNc32677 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:52:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:52:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301452.g8UEqNf32673@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Hope" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Goodday-----RIGHT :) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > claim his funds of usd.20.5 m, [twenty million five > hundred thousand united states dollars Cool. So does this money get split into equal shares by all members of the mendo rec list, or is it to be divided based upon number of posts to the list? Pete From bens Mon Sep 30 11:37:11 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UFbBt00456 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:37:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:37:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301537.g8UFbBB00452@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: fuel injector maintenance - check the electric plug Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi All (injected V-8 owners), While tearing down my engine to observe the internal condition, one has to unplug the fuel injection electrical harness. Lo and Behold...almost half the connections were rusty inside, like someone had sprinkled cinnamon dust inside the plugs. Also, the dirtier intake ports on the heads seemed to correlate to the rusty plugs. Duh! Ah, electrical connections...the bane of the British. I understand that Bosch diesel service centers will rebuild the injectors. Has anyone done this? Eric From bens Mon Sep 30 11:52:21 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UFqLp00684 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:52:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:52:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301552.g8UFqL300680@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Need a new Cam...what are California options? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am resigned to the engine tear down, and just posted something to look for on the injectors. Still need to remove the radiator and all the parts in the front of the engine. As to the cam...what can we in California use, that is better than the stock cam, and not get in trouble with the B.A.R.? Mike Greene puts in a Crane, then there is RPI and their Piper cams. Anyone have non-stock cam and not in trouble with the B.A.R.? eric >>> david.gomes@gambrobct.com 09/24/02 09:41AM >>> Eric, Could it possibly be just a bit of crud that's blocked the oil passage into the lifter? I know there are engine (internal) cleaners on the market. Maybe try one of those? If that doesn't work you'll need to pull the intake and rockers from the offending side to get the lifter out. I have also always been advised not to run new lifters on an old cam, or vice-versa since the faces need to wear-in to mate to each other and a cam lobe that's worn in to another lifter will wear out a new lifter very quickly, introducing wearing metal into the oil stream all the while. It might be prudent to consider replacing the cam and all lifters as a set, especially in a higher mileage motor of questionable prior care. The cam will mean quite a bit of extra work though as you have to pull the radiator, water pump/front cover off the motor to get it out. -Dave G. From bens Mon Sep 30 14:50:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UIodV02100 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:50:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:50:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301850.g8UIodb02096@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Goodday Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's funny. I got this twice--once through mendo and once through my direct email. I'm really loaded now!!! From bens Mon Sep 30 14:57:55 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UIvtm02190 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:57:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:57:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200209301857.g8UIvtD02186@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Tom Gross To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #860 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry, for the personal post. Daniel Oppenheim, if you're out there, could you send me an email. I seem to remember that you'd like to sell your 130, and I have someone who is interested. Thanks, Tom Gross tgross@esri.com From bens Mon Sep 30 16:01:39 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UK1dI02560 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:01:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:01:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200209302001.g8UK1dk02556@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Brian Foster" To: Subject: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have used InterCity a number of times to ship Microcars (Messerschmidts, Isettas, BMW 600s, a Vespa 400 -- yes, I owned one, DKWs, and other similar small cars). I have owned numerous and restored a couple too. I have used others, but InterCity was the easiest. BTW, there is a good website at www.movecars.com Another thought if they are close to a central rail yard is to ship it by rail. I did this with one of the BMW 600s when it was sent to Boston. The trick to any delivery method is notifying them in advance how far the wheels are apart. Many have vehicles that are spaced too far apart to get the car's wheels on/in. One time, I had someone send a service that actually loaded a BMW 600 sidways on the truck by using wheel rollers to pull it up and on the wheel tracks on the tow truck they were using. Just some thoughts, Brian Foster From bens Mon Sep 30 18:37:50 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g8UMboF03529 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:37:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:37:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200209302237.g8UMbnq03525@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Brian Horner To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Slick Rock Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I am going to Slick Rock this weekend and a buddy of mine sent me a link to some pretty nice maps. Thought I should pass them along incase any of you might want to print them out as well. http://www.californiajeeper.com/slickroc/trail-maps.htm Enjoy... 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