From bens Sat Feb 1 01:27:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h116RQ825383 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:27:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:27:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302010627.h116RQl25379@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Need Help on trails 02 and 21 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob, Bryan, Et al.: In case anyone who's going to do the trail clearing sees this message before he goes: I got my big saw sorted out so will be brining three chainsaws, from small to largish. All sharpened and ready to cut! John and I are planning to meat up at the intersection of Hwy 20 & Walker Ridge Road, about 8:30am, then head down to Bear Valley & Lodoga, to Goat Mtn Rd, etc. See you there! Granny From bens Sat Feb 1 06:11:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11BBRl26748 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 06:11:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 06:11:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302011111.h11BBQ026744@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: The Russ Rant Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It's in the truck... back seat by the manual. RW On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 08:44 PM, Charles R Irvin wrote: > > ...yeah: Russ wants you to clean it up and store it in HIS Dormie! > > :) > > Charles > P.S. BTW Russ...I don't see that replacement wiring harness in my > livingroom where it was supposed to have been dropped off this > afternoon..... [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 1 10:08:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11F87J27697 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:08:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:08:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302011508.h11F87b27693@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: diesel 88 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sounds like one that was on EBAY a while back. Other than the VW engine, I forget what else was wrong. Bob B At 08:48 PM 1/31/2003, you wrote: >I looked at an early SIIA 88 for sale up the road from >me. It has a 6 cyl volvo/VW turbo diesel engine >installed. If I buy the truck, would anyone want the >engine? >Thanks, >Joe Mulqueen >'67 SIIA >Cotati, CA > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 1 10:49:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11FnIF27950 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:49:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:49:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302011549.h11FnHH27946@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Speaking of Mendo, when is it? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Life with a kid is so uncertain... If you are going to have a kid, you have to be prepared to be unable to do anything you want to do for at least 18 years. No movies, no romantic dinners, no rover outings... except when what is good for the kid happens to be good for mommy and daddy... And there ain't much of a better experience for a kid than hanging with roverfolk. (well, maybe the VCF (www.vintage.org) but it's close.) So, if Jared is up for it, and it works out, we'd love to be able to bring him to Mendo. But, having a kid also means no last minute, spur-of-the-moment stuff, so we need to start getting ready now... So anyone have any idea when Mendo will be this year? Thanks... --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Sat Feb 1 13:33:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11IXCI00732 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302011833.h11IX7K00728@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: floorboard sealer Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I like your idea better than my 3m gunk. Thanks Mo I like to use the foam tape (double sided) that is intended to seal camper-shells on pickups. 1.5" x 1/8" x 25' rolls can be bought at Orchard Supply Hardware. It squishes as you bolt down the floor boards and does not absorb water. Removal is really easy if needed. -Mo From bens Sat Feb 1 15:02:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11K2vS01138 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:02:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:02:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302012002.h11K2vO01134@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Military bumperette 4sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bill, Is your rear military Bumperette for the left or right side? Joe Mulqueen has one as well. I wonder if you two have a set?? Thanks. Mark. Gbrovers@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/30/03 8:44:01 PM, joemulqueen@yahoo.com writes: > > << I have ONE rear military bumperette for sale. >> > > I have one too in case someone wants to make a pair of them! > > Bill > GBR From bens Sat Feb 1 15:57:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11KvPg01433 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:57:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302012057.h11KvPP01429@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: noise Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] Hi, all, More and more frequently, I hear a squelchy noise when my 6 109's engine revs up, especially right after shifting gears and engaging clutch back from the lower back engine area. Yesterday, it almost happens consistantly when I drove it. Would anyone know what might be happening so I can check it up myself first? Thanks. Charles Phu '67 109 SW --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From bens Sat Feb 1 17:20:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11MKYP01839 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:20:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:20:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302012220.h11MKYP01835@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Tuffy Cup Holder 4 sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, I have a Tuffy metal cup holder I have no use for. 5$ plus UPS. Thanks, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Cotati, CA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Sat Feb 1 17:21:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h11ML1f01848 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:21:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:21:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302012221.h11ML0T01844@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > More and more frequently, I hear a squelchy noise when my 6 109's > engine revs up, especially right after shifting gears and engaging > clutch back from the lower back engine area. Yesterday, it almost > happens consistantly when I drove it. Would anyone know what might be > happening so I can check it up myself first? Thanks. have you considered a loose fan belt? TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Sat Feb 1 21:16:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h122GLQ02774 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:16:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:16:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020216.h122GK902770@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: floorboard sealer Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Head to NAPA, get some 'windsheild sealant' that comes in rolls. It's the same stuff that Rover used from the factory. Stays soft and malleable, but also provides a water-tight seal. It's black, is hard to get off of your fingers, but it does the trick. Caviat: Don't use it too thick, or your floorboards won't bolt together flush. The foam rolls, IMO, just end up breaking down and turning to crumbled up foam. I remember what a yucky mess it is everytime my dad takes off his camper shell off of his truck. Michael >From: "Mehdi Saghafi" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: RE: floorboard sealer >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:07 -0500 > >I like your idea better than my 3m gunk. Thanks Mo > > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Sat Feb 1 21:21:04 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h122L4W02818 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:21:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:21:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020221.h122L4N02814@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Gbrovers@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Military bumperette 4sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark I'll check to see and let you know. I am kind of hoping its a match with Joe's. We probably will both have a better chance of selling them if it is. Bill GBR From bens Sat Feb 1 22:41:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h123fSG03172 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:41:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:41:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020341.h123fSl03168@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hiya, Friday afternoon, sitting in the chair of the Olive Drive Barber shop (on Olive Dr.., Davis, almost across the street from In n Out burger), I spotted a Disco Series 1, green, with NCRC sticker, Cal 4 WD sticker (the big round yellow one) and some other big sticker. Dino, was that you? John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Sat Feb 1 23:52:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h124qtG03426 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:52:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:52:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020452.h124qsb03422@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jon Turner" To: "Mendo Recce" Subject: Brake job, mendo cleanup Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ah, sitting here enjoying a beer in my NCRC beer glass. . . So today I changed all my brake pads on the RR today and bled new fluid through the system. Really glad I did this, the rears were down to almost nothing. I guess I'm used to things being difficult. This was so simple that I was almost afraid I was doing something wrong - it was so easy. Amazes me that the stealership wants ~$500 for the job, cannot figure that one out... How did the mendo cleanup go today? Cheers, Jon From bens Sun Feb 2 00:11:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h125Bc004203 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:11:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:11:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020511.h125BbU04199@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tuffy Cup Holder 4 sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a cup holder that is of little use at times but I just can't afford a divorce right now.... RW On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:20 PM, joe mulqueen wrote: > > Hello, > I have a Tuffy metal cup holder I have no use for. 5$ > plus UPS. > Thanks, > Joe Mulqueen > '67 SIIA 109 SW > Cotati, CA > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 2 00:19:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h125JVW04795 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:19:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020519.h125JUs04791@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] TeriAnn, I checked the fan belt this afternoon and adjusted the dynamo position to tight up the belt to spec tension. Then the noise is gone. Thanks for pointing out. Charles Phu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From bens Sun Feb 2 00:31:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h125V3H04870 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:31:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:31:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020531.h125V2M04866@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 109 NADA Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 8 lines filtered. ] >So do the other 109 NADAs out there have similar extra >numbers? Or >just the normal 8 digits plus a character? I'm trying to see if there >is >a pattern here. >Ben Ben, As far as I've seen on my car, I've not found the latter number format. Anyone else has seen that format? Charles Phu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From bens Sun Feb 2 02:01:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1271YU05367 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:01:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:01:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020701.h1271Ys05363@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel E. Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Truck Cabs!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Daniel! Well, we did it. Left Ventura at 3:10am, drove to Daniel's house in SF and picked up 3 pick-up cabs and were home by 7:15pm. Anyone see a little white Nissan Sentra south bound on the 101 with Rover Roofs stacked on the trunk? Can you believe it...I put 3 in my 1989 2door Nissan Sentra! I removed the back seat so that it was just one big hole behind Cyndi and I all the way back to the trunk. The uprights went in the car and the roofs rested on the trunk with a bicycle rack holding up what hung over. Some tie-downs and I was on my way. Anyway, Daniel's 130 is one cool monster! A crew cab with a box on the bed that matches the Rover body so well I think Rover made it...didn't ask. I saw a FOR SALE sign in the window too! Now it's back to bed, Daniel E. Smith __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Sun Feb 2 02:38:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h127c3A05531 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:38:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:37:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020737.h127bwg05527@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: Re: Truck Cabs!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 5 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Multipart/Alternative; ] [ Text/Plain; ] [ Text/HTML; ] [ image/gif ] [ Image/jpeg ] [ 232 lines filtered. ] --------------Boundary-00=_GF3OQL80000000000000 From bens Sun Feb 2 02:57:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h127vTO05633 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:57:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:57:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200302020757.h127vSn05629@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: truck cabs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 25 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Daniel, This qualifies for the "stale cookie and 1/2 full can of warm soda" = award. Great meeting you, and your sweetie. Super day of driving, and congrats on your new purchases.. Cheers, Daniel Blair, yours is ready to go. Carl, thanks, & good luck. From bens Sun Feb 2 11:28:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12GSbh07824 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:28:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:28:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302021628.h12GSbU07820@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Trail clearing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We had a very successfull trail clearing yesterday. Thanks to John, Granny, and Bryan. I met Bryan at the motorcycle staging area, and we headed up 26 to meet Granny and John at the intersection of 26/21. We hit the trail shortly after 10. 21 was mostly clear, with only a few little trees bent over the road. When we got to 02, we headed left down the mountain and found a few places to clear, but not that much. So we turned around at the interesection where you turn right and head toward the really steep stuff. Then we found what the FS was talking about when heading up 02. 3-4 large downfalls which took a bunch of sawing and clearing. 3-4 medium falls, and 2 big lone trees. We hit M5 at just after 5 pm, and I was tired, and today I am sore. Thanks to Bryan for the Chainsaw lessons. -Rob From bens Sun Feb 2 11:37:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12GbMc07879 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:37:22 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:37:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302021637.h12GbMU07875@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Cruise Control on RR LWB Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cynthia was driving the LWB yesterday when the cruise she it just started to slow down while using cruise control. She turn it off and back on it and worked for a little and then stopped again. The third time she said she heard clicking coming from the dash or steering wheel. Later that day after it had been parked it seemed to work fine. Where should I start looking? -Rob From bens Sun Feb 2 13:49:51 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12Inpb08585 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:49:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:49:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302021849.h12Inoo08580@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Things seen to/from Vegas... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, I forgot to mention my Vegas trip of last week! Visited the Hoover Dam & took the tour: unfortunately, since 9/11 they no longer offer the "hard hat tour" that takes you REALLY deep into the thing. Instead, they only go as far as the Nevada-side generators.Still impressive as hell, though. We won our Superbowl bets! (that's all I'll say about that!) We stayed at the Rivera: folks, considering the price of things there vs. quality, I would reccomend Motel 6 instead of this place! The Rivera looks as if it's NEVER been renovated since it's been in existance (including the two buildings that appear to have been built much later than the original ones), the food is way overpriced & not that good, and there is "no gravity" in gambling there (the machines suck your money out of you!). One night, we went into old downtown Vegas, and gambling was very good for us at the Four Queens, and also the Horseshoe. Only interesting sighting there during the 5 days we were there, was a convertible Freelander on Highway 95, heading towards Boulder City. It was AA Yellow, and already had Nevada license plates on it! (seems that the DMV moves pretty fast in Nevada: I picked up my car trailer at the end of November, and I JUST got my license plate from the Ca. DMV yesterday!) Tried calling a Mr. Slade the first night we were there, but it seems that he was suffering the wrath of angry children, and forgot to call back...:) BTW...we got to drive down the Boulevard of Dreams on the way to Vegas! Interesting place... Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Sun Feb 2 13:49:51 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12InpS08581 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:49:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:49:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302021849.h12Inor08574@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Cruise Control on RR LWB Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob, Clicking from the dash would normally mean a relay is going (they're located behind/under the dash) - but this isn't usually the cause of the cruise control failing (but it could be): the usual causes are... 1. Spiral cassette in the steering wheel...this consists of a series of wires in a ribbon that are wrapped around themselves several times. Sooner of later they wear through, and short out. This is the most common failure. 2. vacum pump: It may build up pressure & then it bleeds off as pressure is being lost. Check all the vacum hoses that go to/fro, and the electrical connections at the pump. 3. There is a vacum operated valve that controls engine speed located at the throttle linkage on the plenum - I forget its official name: this little thingy can spring a leak, also causing it to bleed off pressure, in turn causing the engine to "lose it's cruise". It has a rubber-ish cap around one side of it - if it's leaking, this rubber will be cracked. Easy way to check this one (and most of the vacum lines, in fact) is to disconnect a vacum line at the pump that leads to it: puch the throttle end of the cap inwards (opening the throttle) then placing your thumb over the end of the hose: if the valve holds position, then its okay (along with the vacum line). 4. Speed transducer: according to most people I talked to when I was diagnosing my own cruise control, this almost never fails, and should be ignored unless everything else was replaced & the system still doesn't work. 5. cruise control ECU: located under the dash, this guy can fail once in a while. AFAIK there are two different types that are used, so 'ya gotta pull it to see which one you have, if this is suspect. You're lucky: I replaced my spiral cassette (after replacing the cruise control ECU under the dash!), and it worked for a month - then it failed again! Charles - still cruiseless... On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:37:22 -0500 "Kerner, Rob" writes: > > Cynthia was driving the LWB yesterday when the cruise she it just > started to slow down while using cruise control. She turn it off > and back on it and worked for a little and then stopped again. The > third time she said she heard clicking coming from the dash or > steering wheel. Later that day after it had been parked it seemed > to work fine. > > Where should I start looking? [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Sun Feb 2 13:59:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12IxbY08679 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:59:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:59:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302021859.h12Ixbd08675@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: foam tape and Mendo '03 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Roger - Joe Lucas just reminded me that "MENDO" is always the last weekend (Saturday) in April at Cedar Camp. The foam tape from OSH is gray and doesn't seem to break down at all in my experience. I used it on my hardtop cap to sides, windshield gap etc. A putty knife easily removes leftovers. -Mo From bens Sun Feb 2 17:11:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12MBlb09748 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:11:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:11:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200302022211.h12MBl109744@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: springs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ image/jpeg; name="Rollo tic springs.JPG"; ] [ 1140 lines filtered. ] --=====================_21477250==_ Hi Bill, Here's a picture of the springs on the rollover I bought from Matt Francis. Are these considered 2 leaf or three? Are they TIC? The third leaf in this case is an overload that doesn't touch. The springs are way too stiff. If I bought them, I would be not very happy with them. I thought they would give a better ride. But My 88 with 109 regular rear springs minus the overload leaves ride much better and articulate way better. Thanks, Bob B --=====================_21477250==_ From bens Sun Feb 2 17:33:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12MXIN09843 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:33:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:33:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302022233.h12MXHC09839@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Trail clearing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob wrote: >clearing. 3-4 medium falls, and 2 big lone trees. We hit M5 >at just after 5 pm, and I was tired, and today I am sore. Man! I was worn out by the time we reached M5! Rob (young guy) was in the lead all the way down 21 and down the lower part of 02. When we turned around (at the point where 02 heads completely out of the woods) to head back up, I (grey-haired old fart) was in the lead. Being in the lead means that you see the downfall first and get out with your saw and start clearing first. As Rob mentioned, an awful lot of the major clearing was on that upper part of 02. I got to where I was beginning to pray for "no more!--increasingly--as we got near the end and kept finding one more nest of downfall and one more and still more. Also, increasingly, I kept handing my saw to Bryan (another young guy). John didn't do so much chainsawing (lacking experience) but lots of muscling the cuttings (some up to 2' diameter) out of the way. At the end of the day, we concluded that an ideal crew would be about 4-5 Rovers, each with two workers and one chainsaw. Maybe then we'd even have the time and energy to shoot a few photos of the work. At the M5, Rob & Bryan headed northeast and John & I headed southwest. We stopped briefly at Cedar Camp and all appeared to be well (no one there). We then headed out via M5 to Pacific Ridge to Indian Ridge to Bartlett Springs/Mountain, to Nice. We had gone in via Walker Ridge Road to Bear Valley/Lodoga/Goat Mtn Rd, to the Little Stony staging, up Trail 26 to 21. Aside from the clearing (which was great fun and satisfying), the four-wheeling was super-fun and "just right." Once on that hairpin on 21 (where John and G. Mugele have had to be recovered in the past), I almost had to be snatched and later, on our return up 02 after turning around, Bryan almost had to be snatched (at "XCL Hell" where J. Brabyn had to snatch C. Dow a few years ago). But we all made it with only a bit of sage advice and Range Roverly faith & fortitude. Bryan brought his '99 4.6 HSE, black with chromed 18" wheels with v. low-profile street tires, to see what it could do. He was certainly not disappointed! It was an excellent day for all, I feel. I was truly exhausted when John & I got to my place. Today I am a little sore but not that bad, considering that I'm an old geezer. I might actually do a few chores today. A pleasant side note: John and I, heading up Bartlett Mountain on Bartlett Springs Road, overtook a convoy of 1 Toyota pickup, one Jeep Cherokee, and one D90. John and I talked to the D90 couple. I think we might see them at Mendo this year. Granny From bens Sun Feb 2 17:35:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12MZY009872 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:35:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:35:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302022235.h12MZYp09868@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: foam tape and Mendo '03 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Morgan wrote: > Roger - Joe Lucas just reminded me > that "MENDO" is always the last > weekend (Saturday) in April at > Cedar Camp. Hmm, I thought it was the last FULL weekend of April. Maybe the difference hasn't yet been an issue? Granny From bens Sun Feb 2 17:49:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h12MnIv09924 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:49:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:49:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302022249.h12MnIi09920@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter McIntosh To: mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org Subject: D-90 Tail light corrosion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --Boundary_(ID_X+ahJThrXOyiiP+D6QU5+Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have severe tail light corrosion on the all six rear lights on my 97 D90. The dealer doesn't have the actual wire housing that the bulb housing plugs into. Has anybody had this issue and know where I can locate these so I can fix my brake lights? 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Picked up my race packet at Fleet Feet in Davis. Ran my first 5K for 2003 in 28:31. Four more payments & D1 belongs to me and maybe I can start adding goodies like ARB bumper w/winch, rock sliders, & skid plates. Take Care, Dino From bens Sun Feb 2 21:01:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1321ux10777 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:01:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:01:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030201.h1321uD10773@minbar.fourfold.org> From: B C To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Trail clearing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org First of all I want to thank Rob, Granville and John. They all made me feel very welcome. Even though it was my first trip I would have to agree that the trail clearing was successful. I have been eagerly wanting to see what my new Range Rover could do, and I am overwhelmed with amusement on how well it did. I never expected a completely stock vehicle could ever do what it did. It definitely helped having some expert guides! I spent the morning washing off the fancy chrome wheels and trying to buff out the scratches. With just a quick hand wax about 99% of them were gone. Granny please e-mail me the pictures you took. By the way does anyway know where I can get a replacement tail light for a '99 4.6 for a decent price? Later, bryan --- "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > > We had a very successfull trail clearing yesterday. > Thanks to John, Granny, and Bryan. I met Bryan at > the motorcycle staging area, and we headed up 26 to > meet Granny and John at the intersection of 26/21. > We hit the trail shortly after 10. > > 21 was mostly clear, with only a few little trees > bent over the road. When we got to 02, we headed [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Sun Feb 2 22:41:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h133fi511447 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:41:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:41:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030341.h133fis11443@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Speaking of Mendo, when is it? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Roger, > Life with a kid is so uncertain... If you are going to have a kid, you > have > to be prepared to be unable to do anything you want to do for at least > 18 > years. No movies, no romantic dinners, no rover outings... Wow that's the truth. I love them dearly but it would be nice to get out once in awhile. We all tried to see a movie last night but by the time we got everyone together and in the car the movie was sold out. We popped corn and all watched Stuart Little II at home. If we went on a traveling camp out with everyone we'd get left behind while we were packing our stuff to bug out! ;^). We're going to try to make it this year if I'm not traveling for work. Cheers, Keith From bens Sun Feb 2 22:47:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h133l3a11483 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:47:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:47:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030347.h133l3611479@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 109 NADA Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ben, > So do the other 109 NADAs out there have similar extra numbers? Or > just the normal 8 digits plus a character? I'm trying to see if there > is > a pattern here. I checked out Indiana and she just has the 343xxxxxx serial number on the horn, nothing else. Cheers, Keith 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Sun Feb 2 23:01:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1341nO11551 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:01:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:01:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030401.h1341nU11547@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Rover V8 oil pump mods Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hmm. With a new spring and good clearances between bearings, you should be getting 55 - 60 psi line pressure. What you really need is a high-volume pump, not more pressure. If you need more than 60 psi, something is inherently wrong with the engine design. I know guys who race the Al 215 (or 3.9/4.6l) run dry sump and an external pump. This gives the high volume they need. I believe you can get an American pump rebuild kit from Summit Racing. I know the British spring steel has a problem with taking a set (valve springs, leaf springs, etc.). They have had problems with the release valve sticking. It's not a problem of pressure going too high, but sticking open so there is no pressure! Polishing the bore / valve helps eliminate this problem. Better yet would be to hard anodize the piston area! Later, Kelly Minnick > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:06:50 -0500 > From: "Hannaford, Morgan" > Subject: Rover V8 oil pump mods > > I have gleaned from some websites and casual discussion > that the pre-'95 (internal) oil pump can be modified to get > greater oil pressure. Something about installing > a stronger pressure relief spring or polished shuttle valve? > Maybe even a spacer-washer on the spring? [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 3 00:53:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h135rEK13659 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 00:53:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 00:53:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030553.h135rEo13655@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm looking for a heater motor. The later style from a series III is what I'm on the look out for... LHD naturally. If anyone knows of a parts truck with a heater motor, let me know. RW From bens Mon Feb 3 01:43:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h136htX13969 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:43:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:43:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030643.h136htu13965@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Russ, Are you sure you couldn't make one from a RHD truck work? I have ALL of the parts needed for a RHD heater assembly conversion. This was all out of an '83 RHD Defender. Michael >From: Russ Wilson >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: heater motor >Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 00:53:14 -0500 > >I'm looking for a heater motor. The later style from a series III is >what I'm on the look out for... LHD naturally. If anyone knows of a >parts truck with a heater motor, let me know. [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Russ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Mon Feb 3 01:44:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h136iMP13984 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:44:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:44:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030644.h136iLQ13980@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 109 NADA Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, When I parted out a wrecked 74-109 CKD from Costa Rica, it had the serial number on the LEFT front spring hanger along with a second set of 4-5 numbers below. Bob B At 07:47 PM 2/2/2003, you wrote: >Ben, > > > So do the other 109 NADAs out there have similar extra numbers? Or > > just the normal 8 digits plus a character? I'm trying to see if there > > is > > a pattern here. >I checked out Indiana and she just has the 343xxxxxx serial number on >the horn, nothing else. > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 3 04:50:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h139o0M14930 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:50:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:49:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302030949.h139nxE14926@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Parts for sale- but not for Rovers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone on the list have a BMW 1600 or 2002? Before Rovers I was into the Teutonic stuff. Since we just moved into our new house I've been unpacking all sorts of forgotten miscellany: I have a pair of NOS door handles to fit 1600-2002 models from '67-76. They retail for $47 apiece, you can have 'em both for fifty bucks before they go on ebay. If not, please forgive the German Invasion... Mo From bens Mon Feb 3 11:41:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13GfuL16793 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:41:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031641.h13GftD16789@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yesterday on the way down to the Peninsula I saw a well equipped white '04 D90 with a fiberglass top and license plate SIRDAR. Anyone we know (he also had a yellow heavy duty locking hook on the end of his winch cable)? Kevin P.S. I also saw an amazing restored/modified red 60's Unimog on the freeway yesterday... From bens Mon Feb 3 11:59:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13GxQ816870 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:59:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:59:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031659.h13GxQ516866@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, What about me? I want to put a RHD heater in my RHD Dormie. There is a heater on ebay, in the UK, old and used. On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:43 PM, Polla Slade wrote: > > Russ, > > Are you sure you couldn't make one from a RHD truck work? I have ALL > of the > parts needed for a RHD heater assembly conversion. This was all out > of an > '83 RHD Defender. > [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Mon Feb 3 12:09:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13H9Bv16944 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:09:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:09:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031709.h13H9Bo16940@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Range Rover Tail Lights Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bryan wrote: >By the way does anyway know where I can get a >replacement tail light for a '99 4.6 for a decent >price? Look on eBay, I just sold all four of my OEM tail lights from the 1998 HSE for less than $30 after I bought a set of the 2000-2002 lights with the clear turn signals... Kevin From bens Mon Feb 3 12:15:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13HFx316990 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:15:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:15:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031715.h13HFxd16986@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, You make me your 'absolutely final lowest price bottom end offer and I'll say 'ok'. Michael >From: John Hess >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: heater motor >Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:59:26 -0500 > >Hey, > >What about me? I want to put a RHD heater in my RHD Dormie. [ 28 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Mon Feb 3 13:10:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13IAN017364 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:10:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:10:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031810.h13IANk17360@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I'm looking for a heater motor. The later style from a series III is > what I'm on the look out for... LHD naturally. If anyone knows of a > parts truck with a heater motor, let me know. last I looked series III blower motors were still available new. LR part # MRC6256 TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Mon Feb 3 13:35:24 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13IZOU17570 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:35:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:35:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031835.h13IZOc17566@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: 109 SW fuel tank for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a 109 WS fuel tank for sale . $50. No rust inside. Has some surface rust outside, and the PO had but another draw tub on its side, so I opted for a new aftermarket from BP. If I had known, I would have kept mine. The brackets were wrong, I had to pay someone to cut and reweld the adapter, so it would fit. Was off by 1 inch. From bens Mon Feb 3 14:09:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13J9ix17771 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:09:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:09:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031909.h13J9hJ17767@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #968 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have had a very similar problem. Fortunately the wiring housing had not rotted out. I know of one fix which involves drilling holes in the light housings to allow better drying out randy At 11:42 03-02-03 -0500, Mendo_Recce digest: wrote: >Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:49:18 -0500 >From: Peter McIntosh >Subject: D-90 Tail light corrosion > >- --Boundary_(ID_X+ahJThrXOyiiP+D6QU5+Q) >Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > >I have severe tail light corrosion on the all six rear lights on my 97 D90. [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 3 14:16:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13JGBb17839 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:16:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:16:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302031916.h13JGBa17835@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: Rover V8 oil pump mods Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It may not be a good idea to increase the oil pressure too much. One of the American websites for Buick v-8 rebuilds mentioned a problem with the cam. The higher pressure was pushing the journal against the cam bearing, causing pre-mature wear. They make a custom cover plate and tweek the oil pump for higher pressure. I'll try to find the website. From bens Mon Feb 3 15:43:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13Khj618495 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:43:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:43:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032043.h13KhiD18491@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hmmm... a "04 D90", you must the first one to see next years model. :-) I've seen that Mog before. Amazing is right. Beautifully done work and a real attention getter, impossible to overlook. Bruce Kevin Kelly wrote: > Yesterday on the way down to the Peninsula I saw a well equipped white '04 > D90 with a fiberglass top and license plate SIRDAR. Anyone we know (he also > had a yellow heavy duty locking hook on the end of his winch cable)? > > Kevin > > P.S. I also saw an amazing restored/modified red 60's Unimog on the freeway > yesterday... From bens Mon Feb 3 16:10:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13LAXl18935 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:10:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:10:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032110.h13LAXM18931@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: oil pressure sender thread?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know the thread size to install an oil pressure sender on a V8 oil pump (Range Rover classic - external pump). I want to replace the warning light with a guage. I would prefer to replace the stock sender unit - is that 1/2" UNF? Is the adjacent plug 9/16" UNF? It sure isn't NPT......I will need an adapter to accept the 1/8" NPT oil sender fitting. -Mo From bens Mon Feb 3 16:19:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13LJei19117 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:19:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:19:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032119.h13LJet19113@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: oil pressure sender thread?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I thought it was BSP. You can get adapters from BSP to NPT whatever from mcmaster.com. Hannaford, Morgan wrote: > Does anyone know the thread size to install an oil pressure > sender on a V8 oil pump (Range Rover classic - external pump). > I want to replace the warning light with a guage. > I would prefer to replace the stock sender unit - is that > 1/2" UNF? Is the adjacent plug 9/16" UNF? > It sure isn't NPT......I will need an adapter to accept > the 1/8" NPT oil sender fitting. > From bens Mon Feb 3 16:20:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13LKTh19162 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:20:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032120.h13LKTo19158@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: oil pressure sender thread?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A post in the D-90 FAQ seems indicate the spare hole is 1/2-20 as you guessed. There's a bit of info there in the FAQ section, under instrumentation - pressure gages Also a link to alan dobbs' effort. http://www.d-90.com -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 3 18:07:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13N7Jh19890 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:07:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:07:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032307.h13N7JS19886@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Mendo '03 dates Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I agree with Granny-- the date is April 25-27 this year, right? Cheers. From bens Mon Feb 3 18:17:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h13NHqi19977 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:17:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:17:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302032317.h13NHqh19973@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Mendo '03 dates Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...the date is April 25-27 this year..." Bummer for me. We'll be on our way back from Hawaii that weekend. I'll have to celebrate a little early with Peter O. We'll look east and raise a pint to you, Granny. :^) -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 3 20:23:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h141N9421198 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:23:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:23:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040123.h141N9W21194@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: foam tape and Mendo '03 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 01:59 PM 2/2/03 -0500, you wrote: >Roger - Joe Lucas just reminded me >that "MENDO" is always the last >weekend (Saturday) in April at >Cedar Camp. Excellent! That's the weekend *after* Jared's birthday, so we may be able to make it! We'll certainly try! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 3 21:34:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h142YkN21629 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040234.h142Ykd21625@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Trail clearing Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 101 lines filtered. ] --------------000100090509040001010702 Dear Mendo-ites, As the only member of the trail clearing expedition who has not yet posted, I would really like to thank all the others who participated -- we had a great day. Thanks to Granny for all-round comradeship and expertise, as well as supplying 3 of the 4 chainsaws used. Thanks to Rob for leading us on the whole jaunt and being patient when Granny and I were late arriving. And thanks to Bryan for supplying his forestry and chainsaw expertise (he really knows his stuff). We were all impressed with Bryan's bravery at accompanying us in his brand new HSE, and getting scratches on it as well as tackling a couple of situations that nearly required a tow strap for some or all of the convoy. By the end of the day, even we were impressed with what those 18 inch wheels with stock low profile Michelin tires could do when attached to a Range Rover! We apologize about the broken tail light due to the rest of us insisting that Bryan reverse down XCL hill and try again with more "welly" (he was successful). I also enjoyed revisiting the scenes of past adventures, including the notorious hairpin on Trail 21 mentioned by Granny, where on a previous occasion in my Classic I reversed a wheel off the bank in my 3 point turn attempt and had to winch back up again. This time I was more fortunate, with Rob and Granny as spotters -- they got me around without even spinning a wheel. The tree clearing was good excercise too, and all in all we had a wonderful time. Thanks again to all -- Best wishes John B C wrote: >First of all I want to thank Rob, Granville and John. >They all made me feel very welcome. > >Even though it was my first trip I would have to agree >that the trail clearing was successful. I have been >eagerly wanting to see what my new Range Rover could >do, and I am overwhelmed with amusement on how well it >did. >I never expected a completely stock vehicle could ever [ 41 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --------------000100090509040001010702 From bens Mon Feb 3 23:31:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h144Vto22187 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040431.h144VtF22183@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Mendo '03 dates Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave G wrote: > Bummer for me. We'll be on our way back from Hawaii that weekend. I'll > have to celebrate a little early with Peter O. We'll look east and raise a > pint to you, Granny. :^) Hey, thanks, man! Drink one for me (I can always use another!). We'll miss you. Granny From bens Tue Feb 4 00:06:20 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1456KN22535 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:06:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:06:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040506.h1456Jh22531@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, Anyone using AT&T mMode GSM/GPRS phones? I heard a few months ago that the service wasn't very good but maybe someone now has good news. Frank From bens Tue Feb 4 01:38:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h146cUw00743 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:38:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:38:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040638.h146cP600739@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- Last year was our 20th anniversary and we postponed going to Scotland... So, we are heading there come mid May. Anyone have any recommendations on where to stay in London for a decent price? Sadly, we won't be going to Solihull (sp?)... Take care, Kelly Minnick From bens Tue Feb 4 01:59:20 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h146xKT00566 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:59:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:59:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040659.h146xJ600562@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org How about a side trip to the west, taking in the New Forest and Beaulieu? Nice car museum there and there's a quaint little village on the edge of the new forest with a Ferrari dealer. Very Napa like, except English. I hired a bike and rode to the museum, and was passed by 2 new Bentley sedans. While you're out that way, stop by Dormobile LTD and say hi to Simon and pick up a box for me? In Scotland, Pitlockery is a nice place with a couple distillers who give tours. The Highlands in May? I don't know what they'll be like. Too early for the heather to be blooming. St Andrew's is neat. The long train ride from London to Dundee crosses through mile after mile of english country side, with some metropolitan stops. Email me if you want to talk more, On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 10:38 PM, kminnick wrote: > > Hi guys- > Last year was our 20th anniversary and we postponed going to > Scotland... So, > we are heading there come mid May. Anyone have any recommendations on > where > to stay in London for a decent price? Sadly, we won't be going to > Solihull > (sp?)... Take care, [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Tue Feb 4 02:04:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1474JW00700 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:04:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:04:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040704.h1474IM00691@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Frank, I've been using a T-Mobile phone since August, and I couldn't be happier with them: they have NOT lied to me, they never fed me a sales pitch, and the price that I was given has been the price that I've paid each month - not to mention, their customer service has been excellent. The clarity of their signal isn't quite what PCS signals are, but it's still very good, and their coverage area is what they say it is. Charles On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:06:19 -0500 "Franklin H. Yap" writes: > > Hi, > > Anyone using AT&T mMode GSM/GPRS phones? I heard a few months ago > that > the service wasn't very good but maybe someone now has good news. > > Frank > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 4 02:04:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1474JD00701 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:04:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:04:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302040704.h1474In00693@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: ...Anybody want to buy a 109SW??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...NOT MINE!!!!! However, I've recently (yesterday) stumbled onto one that's for sale. If anybody is interested I'll get the details...I won't look into it for "myself" because I already have two. Charles - off to Visalia again... ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 4 08:47:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14DlnF02392 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:47:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:47:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041347.h14Dlng02388@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Dick Lague" To: Subject: RE: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 40 lines filtered. ] I switched to T-Mobile a couple of months ago and I could not be happier. Was with Verizon for years and when my wife's phone just flat wore out, I asked them what they could do for me in a new phone. best deal was $75 and a 2 year commitment for a terrible phone. I brought it back in 2 days and got 2 great 3 band GSM phones from T-Mobile. phones were free with rebate and we could not be happier. Third band will work in Europe [but at $1.00 a minute] I have a GSM phone from them that I picked up in the Czech Republic in September that I just activate in Europe and buy minutes. It is about $.20/minute for minutes. I live in the country and Verizon was not working within 6 miles of my house. T-Mobile uses the Cingular system here and the local antennas from Mulholland Highway reach us. Nationally Verizon may have better service, but so far it has worked fine. My wife and I now have free service between us, even if she is in CA, and I am in NY!! Dick Lague From bens Tue Feb 4 10:26:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14FQ1n02833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:26:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:26:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041526.h14FQ1l02829@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Franklin H. Yap wrote: >Anyone using AT&T mMode GSM/GPRS phones? I heard a few months ago that >the service wasn't very good but maybe someone now has good news. > > GSM in the US is definitely not the best service, but I use it because I like the idea of using the same phone system as the rest of the world (except Japan). It was really cool when I worked in Stockholm for one week/month and had a phone that just worked (note that you need a dual- or tri-band phone for that). Since everyone's GSM service uses the same cells (the billing & network info is embedded in the protocol so this works), it's unlikely that mMode or T-Mobile are any better than Cingular as far as availability or signal strength. TMS & I have used a couple of companies, and generally had the best experience with Verizon. She still uses them, and I would have stuck with them if I hadn't had the afformentioned Stockholm issue. C From bens Tue Feb 4 12:27:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14HRLK03876 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:27:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:27:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041727.h14HRK203872@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org where did you want to go - scotland or London or both??? personally i'd stay well away from london (except to fly into), i've always found it far too busy and well over priced. you only have to travel about 50 miles south and you in the English countryside - Sussex, Surry, Hamphshire, Berkshire (where i'm from) are all really nice places to visit and as john said the New Forest is a lovely place to visit. I guess it really depends on what you're interested in - i'd say your best bet whould be to contacted the tourist board for info, and then contact indivdual tourist info in different areas for hotel guides etc - you can normally find plenty of place to stay - london will be really expensive, but out side you'll find places like the 'Travel Lodge' which are simular to 'Days Inn' (about £45 per night) If you want to go to Scotland then your best bet would probably to fly to either Heathrow or Gatwick and then get an internal flight up to Scotland (not sure which airport) this should save you a lot of time in driving - unless you want to explore a little? to be honest theres enough in Scotland to keep you amused - i've only been there once but its a fanstastic place - you might be lucky weather wise in May - but then again its the UK and it may well snow !!!! give us an e-mail if you have any other qu's Tim >From: "kminnick" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "Mendo" >Subject: Travel to London >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:38:25 -0500 > >Hi guys- >Last year was our 20th anniversary and we postponed going to Scotland... >So, [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk From bens Tue Feb 4 13:01:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14I1Hr04144 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:01:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:01:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041801.h14I1C704139@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Quite right. I am a Limey and I would get right out of London at once. To see only London is like visiting the US and seeing only Los Angeles. See the Southwest, Cumbria, Scotland (West) and the Rural home counties around the South East. Go to pubs, enjoy the small country lanes. Be amused at the ridiculously huge amount of land rovers that you see everywhere. Be surprised at 99% of the owners NOT being enthusiasts because they are nothing special over there. (like Jeeps here) Kind regards, Mark tim boorman wrote: > where did you want to go - scotland or London or both??? > > personally i'd stay well away from london (except to fly into), i've always > found it far too busy and well over priced. > > you only have to travel about 50 miles south and you in the English > countryside - Sussex, Surry, Hamphshire, Berkshire (where i'm from) are all > really nice places to visit and as john said the New Forest is a lovely > place to visit. [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 4 13:34:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14IYhW04364 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:34:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041834.h14IYhW04360@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Good grief, so much London bashing? London's a great city for people that have never been there before in exactly the same way that Paris, New York, Barcelona, San Francisco, Sydney etc are. It may not be somewhere people want to live but it's certainly right up there in terms of things to see from lifestyles, architecture, shops, history, theatre and shows etc. If you want to find some good deals on places to stay a friend of mine just got back there from spending Christmas in a 4* London hotel for ~$100 a night, check out http://www.londontown.com/ and http://www.londontown.co.uk/. I agree with you should try and see some of the countryside, I just happen to think London is an amazing place in it's diversity of culture. Bruce (London born and bred before moving to Surrey and living on the common where the first martians landed :-) Mark Pilkington wrote: From bens Tue Feb 4 13:50:32 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14IoWG04566 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041850.h14IoWo04562@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Tranny capacity for RR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know the transmission takes 10 quarts. But I assume that is when the system is empty. If I just drained the sump, how much would I put in to get it close before checking it? -Rob From bens Tue Feb 4 13:53:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14IrhN04592 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:53:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:53:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041853.h14Irg304588@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yep gsm coverage in the us is not as good as the cdma of sprint/verizon. There is generally good gsm coverage in cities, but it drops off strongly once you move to outlying areas (they all do, gsm just more than others). Tmobile and cingular now share networks (which is why you can now buy a tmobile phone in ca - most of the coverage is actually cingular, although tmobile is adding cells). Tmobile is moderate here in the bayarea, good in southern california and excellent on the east coast. If you do want gsm for international use, youneed to buy a international gsm phone. The us uses a different frequency for gsm than most of the rest of the world (I think there are three main gsm frequencies). I think a lot of your choice depends on how you plan to use the phone? If you want it for emergencies/widest possible coverage, then I'd recomend a dual analog/digital phone (cdma). Verizon worked really well for me. If you want a fancy phone then gsm can be good as well as the sprint 3g stuff. I personally use tmobile, but that's because I like to use my fancy sidekick so I can get email/web/pda as well. I used to have a triband analog/digital startac through verizon - for me that worked very well and had excellent coverage. Like most things, as you look at it in more detail, it gets more complicated. The main thing is to try to buy a phone/carrier that suits your needs. Shannon On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 5:59AM -0800, Christopher Dow wrote: From bens Tue Feb 4 14:01:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14J1QC04663 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:01:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:01:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041901.h14J1Q104659@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm about to order the ignition amplifier module as suggested by Blair and Chris earlier, but I wanted to mention some details about the 110s current mechanical problem and see if it sheds any additional light on how to fix it. Basically it will not start at all now. It takes turning the key at least 10 times or more to get the engine to start up. The engine clicks and wurrs, but won't catch and start up. When it does start up, after a very brief period of acting fine it enters into a rough idle and then cuts out and dies in mid rev, often while in motion. Sometimes it cuts out totally without any rough idle or warning at all. The point being, it won't maintain itself without dying for more than a few minutes. In the past week we haven't been able to drive more than 5 blocks without the truck stalling out completely and refusing to start again. Chris or Blair, does this problem sound like the one you had before you changed/rerouted your ignition amplifier module? BTW, the battery seems fine - an optima red top. Lights work fine and are bright, radio functions, flashers function, no indication that the battery is low or dying. We recently checked the fuel filter and it was fine, even though we still replaced it. We have not checked fuel pressure at the engine nor have we checked the fuel pump. We are also ordering new OEM spark plugs to install as well. Rotor, cap and plug wires are all new and look/seem totally fine. jpipes From bens Tue Feb 4 14:05:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14J5FU04726 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:05:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:05:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041905.h14J5EU04722@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If you wanted to go the other direction you could stay at Ian Chapman's hotel in Canterbury, Kent. For those that don't remember, he directed most of the Camel Trophies. I stayed there last fall with other LR friends and it turned into a real chest thumping LR experience. It's amazing to see him when he gets wound up! Isn't he a Scott? Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Cotati, CA Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:38:25 -0500 From: "kminnick" Subject: Travel to London Hi guys- Last year was our 20th anniversary and we postponed going to Scotland... So, we are heading there come mid May. Anyone have any recommendations on where to stay in London for a decent price? Sadly, we won't be going to Solihull (sp?)... Take care, Kelly Minnick __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 4 14:34:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14JYLB05060 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:34:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:34:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041934.h14JYLR05056@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org One thing you could do Jason, is to have a timing light handy, and when the truck stalls or won't start, throw the timing light on it and just use it to see if the engine's getting spark DURING the time that it's acting up. Others please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the result of the ign module failure is a no-spark condition. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 4 14:39:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14Jd6l05174 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:39:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:39:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041939.h14Jd5I05170@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tranny capacity for RR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org About 5 qts in the 4spd auto boxes I've done (4hp22? or something). I add 4qt and then check at 1/2 pt. intervals. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 4 14:56:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14Ju0A05424 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:56:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:56:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041956.h14Ju0R05420@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craigreece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, When I first got my '95 D90, it was hard to start, and got progressively worse. What it turned out to be was the pickup module *inside* the distributor (the amplifier module had been relocated already.) Craig Jason Pipes wrote: > I'm about to order the ignition amplifier module as suggested by Blair and > Chris earlier, but I wanted to mention some details about the 110s current > mechanical problem and see if it sheds any additional light on how to fix > it. > > Basically it will not start at all now. It takes turning the key at least 10 > times or more to get the engine to start up. The engine clicks and wurrs, > but won't catch and start up. When it does start up, after a very brief > period of acting fine it enters into a rough idle and then cuts out and dies [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 4 14:56:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14Jus405442 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:56:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:56:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302041956.h14Jusx05438@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I recently bought an AT&T GSM/TDMA phone. This has the advantage of the legacy TDMA coverage and the getting there GSM coverage but still suffers drop offs in the outlying areas. Side to side comparisons with a friends T-mobile are showing better coverage from the AT&T but not as good as the Sprint PCS. That said in built up areas the AT&T wipes the floor with the Sprint phone for quality. I got rid of my Cingular service because one of the things that Cingular have got badly wrong is capacity planning. Try making a call anytime between 4-7 and there's a high chance of getting a busy signal, they also have very poor corridors, whereby you can go from 5 bars to none in the space of a few hundred yards on places you just wouldn't expect to lose coverage, such as the 101 around Menlo Park.. This may be a side effect of allowing T-mobile to piggy back off their cells. I do know AT&T are investing a lot of money into GSM so expect to see the infrastructure improve dramatically over the next year or so. Cheers, Bruce Shannon Holland wrote: From bens Tue Feb 4 15:27:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14KRdh05683 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:27:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:27:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042027.h14KRdr05679@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: engine hoist for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I no longer have need of the engine hoist I bought from Scotty. It's in excellent shape, comes apart easily, and is offered at the = amazing price of $75. Would like to have it in your hands today or = tomorrow. Call me at 415-282-5500 or e-mail back. Cheers, Daniel From bens Tue Feb 4 15:29:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14KTq705698 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:29:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:29:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042029.h14KTqB05694@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: For Fil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 29 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Fil, call me (415-282-5500) if you are still interested in a cab top..three = left, and someone wants all three, but is willing to pass on one of them = if you want it. You indicated some interest, so I thought I'd get back = to you... sorry to the list, I don't seem to have Fil's e-mail.. Cheers, Daniel From bens Tue Feb 4 15:32:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14KWCQ05735 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:32:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042032.h14KWCa05731@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: Re: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org How did you fix this? Replace the entire distributer? Did you do this yourself by chance? Thanks for the help!! jpipes > When I first got my '95 D90, it was hard to start, and got progressively worse. > What it turned out to be was the pickup module *inside* the distributor (the > amplifier module had been relocated already.) > > Craig From bens Tue Feb 4 15:39:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14Kd8s05833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:39:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:39:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042039.h14Kd8X05829@minbar.fourfold.org> From: jarrod wyrick To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 62 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-4--493720275 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The GSM phone you choose will also impact coverage. I have a T68i and it works okay. However, I have a friend that has a nokia (model #?) GSM phone that consistently gets a better connection. we both have AT&T. -Jarrod On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 11:56 AM, Bruce Grove wrote: > > > I recently bought an AT&T GSM/TDMA phone. This has the advantage of > the > legacy TDMA coverage and the getting there GSM coverage but still > suffers drop offs in the outlying areas. Side to side comparisons with > a friends T-mobile are showing better coverage from the AT&T but not > as good as the Sprint PCS. That said in built up areas the AT&T wipes > the floor with the Sprint phone for quality. I got rid of my Cingular [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Annette --Apple-Mail-4--493720275 From bens Tue Feb 4 15:43:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14Khlq05883 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:43:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:43:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042043.h14KhlT05879@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craigreece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, Britalia in Berkeley diagnosed the problem (after I'd needless replaced plugs, wires, cap and rotor and given up) and fixed it. They didn't replace the entire distributor - just the pickup module. I never even looked at the distributor after they'd finished to see if I could've done it - but I can't imagine it would be too difficult to you yourself. Craig Jason Pipes wrote: > How did you fix this? Replace the entire distributer? Did you do this > yourself by chance? > > Thanks for the help!! > > jpipes > > > When I first got my '95 D90, it was hard to start, and got progressively > worse. [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 4 15:48:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14KmjQ05937 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042048.h14KmjE05933@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is a good point, I got the Siemens S46 (which was coming with a $100 rebate so effectively worked out free) and it seems to have most excellent signal, the price for which is that it's a slightly larger phone than some of the Nokia's and Ericsson's. Bruce jarrod wyrick wrote: From bens Tue Feb 4 16:04:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14L4ZX06109 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:04:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:04:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042104.h14L4Zn06105@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ya know....this keeps popping up again and again on all lists... What I have gleaned so far, is .......even though the new technology is coming along, Verizon still has better coverage/reception by far in the US. I have NEVER heard anyone who had Verizon EVER complain of coverage, or quite frankly any other problems. Do ANY of you really NEED a cell phone for extensive international travel? if so than it may make sense to buy a phone for that purpose(or better yet, have employer do so!) personally I don't care if the phone has a calculator, video games, wipes your rear when needed.....etc....a cell phone is to be used as a phone....my cameras are cameras, teh cassiopia does all teh pda stuff when needed, the old Garmin xl-45 does all the gps I need for now... Paul (been with Verizon/GTE since '97 or so still using the same samsung CDMA phone I bought from GTE back in '98 and it gets better coverage than any family/friends phones of any vintage/brand/expense....what does that tell you?) of course I also have been using the same sony spp-150 cordless in the house since '1987 which still works better than some of teh new ones....go figure... --- Christopher Dow wrote: > > Franklin H. Yap wrote: > > >Anyone using AT&T mMode GSM/GPRS phones? I heard a few > months ago that > >the service wasn't very good but maybe someone now has > good news. > > > > [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 4 16:05:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h14L5j006143 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:05:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:05:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302042105.h14L5j606139@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Oil pressure guage a la Morgan Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, I'm on board with Morgan's question. I'm almost completely done with my 4.2 swap and want to put in a mechanical oil pressure guage just like Morgan wants to. Any help will be appreciated by me as well. Tom Durango From bens Tue Feb 4 19:49:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h150nMt07952 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:49:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:49:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050049.h150nM307948@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: hoist is sold (nm) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 13 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" From bens Tue Feb 4 19:57:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h150vP108058 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:57:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050057.h150vPq08054@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org there are a lot of nice hotels and B/B near the Earl's court underground area fil >From: joe mulqueen >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo >Subject: Travel to London >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:05:14 -0500 > >If you wanted to go the other direction you could stay >at Ian Chapman's hotel in Canterbury, Kent. For those >that don't remember, he directed most of the Camel [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From bens Tue Feb 4 20:00:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1510Yr08106 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:00:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:00:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050100.h1510XU08102@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Engine stand Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well now that someone has a new used engine hoist, I have a used engine stand to go with it. If someone wants to pick it up I have a heavy duty engine stand. How does $45 sound? TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Tue Feb 4 20:59:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h151xV508502 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:59:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050159.h151xVb08498@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah - definatly go to the pubs!!!!! thats something i really miss, a good local pub, with the old boy sat in the corner smoking (yes smoking inside!!!) his pipe talking about the old days!!! theres some really nice country pubs to be found hidden away - probalem is they're hidden away - but its a good excuse to drive around!! You're right about the Land rover drivers - when i owned a serise vehicle i'd always get a wave or a nod from passing land rovers - but when i got the 90 it didn't happen so much - although you tend know which are enthusiasts and which are not by the way the vehicle is tricked out, but i have been cought out a few times! I guess back home we look at Land rover as more a work vehicle than an expedition vehicles - they're used a lot by farmer, construction companies, tree crews, etc etc - as they do make excellent work trucks. When are you heading over there - i go back to the UK around mid may - give us a shout if you fancy hooking up?? tim >From: Mark Pilkington >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Travel to London >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:01:12 -0500 > >Quite right. I am a Limey and I would get right out of London at once. >To see >only London is like visiting the US and seeing only Los Angeles. See the [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 From bens Tue Feb 4 21:10:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h152AIL08577 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:10:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:10:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050210.h152AIU08573@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "tim boorman" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Bruce - How long have you been over here for?? what part of Surrey did you live in - i lived right on the boarder of Surrey, Hampshire and Berkshire (place called Little Sandhurst inbetween Bracknell and Camberley - ring any bells??) your right about London though - it is a nice place to visit for culture etc but i couldn't live there - brought up in the sticks which suits me fine - i guess its the same as SF - i really enjoyed visiting the place as everything was different and exciting. I dont mean to put people off london, but there are some really nice places to visit just a few miles out side the M25!! especially the pubs!!!!!!!!!! Tim >From: Bruce Grove >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Travel to London >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:34:43 -0500 > >Good grief, so much London bashing? London's a great city for people >that have never been there before in exactly the same way that Paris, >New York, Barcelona, San Francisco, Sydney etc are. It may not be [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk From bens Tue Feb 4 21:58:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h152wGB08815 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:58:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:58:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050258.h152wGV08811@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: 20kv wire (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Casey, am working on Elgie, and remembered we never did do the fender flair thing. any chance you are around tonight? ;-) I think I will be starting swapping things over in next two weeks. Paul cell 408-313-1289 --- Casey McMullen wrote: > > Paul, > I'd love to help on your frame-swap! That way I can also > give you those fender flares I've been promising ;) > > >Me neither...and I'm afearin' it will happen again while > I > >do the frame-swap on Elgie in the next few weeks! wanna > >come and help? ;-) I gotta get it done fast!!!! [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 4 22:05:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1535Ap08886 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:05:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:05:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050305.h1535AS08879@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Elgie's frame swap.....was RE: 20kv wire (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OOPS! that was supposed to go just to Casey, buuuuuuut I am going to be getting serious about Elgie's wap over onto the SIII frame over the next two weeks. If anyone is interested in coming over to BS while watching me work, or even roll up their sleeves. I really need ot get it finished ASAP before the Fremont PD get on my back about all the stuff in front of the house. ;-) either week-day or week-end help would be appreciated if any available. I figure thay've been hastling Fil over th last year, now thye will be coming back to hastle me if I don't get things in order NOW! ;-( Paul --- Paul Archibald wrote: > > Hi Casey, > am working on Elgie, and remembered we never did do the > fender flair thing. any chance you are around tonight? > ;-) > > I think I will be starting swapping things over in next > two > weeks. [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 4 22:53:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h153r2Z09125 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:53:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:53:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050353.h153r1209121@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: For Fil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Daniel, I saw somebody took away three cab tops and now you are selling three more? Does this mean you cleaned out Africa's supply of cab tops? Bob B Hi Fil, >call me (415-282-5500) if you are still interested in a cab top..three = >left, and someone wants all three, but is willing to pass on one of them = >if you want it. You indicated some interest, so I thought I'd get back = >to you... > > >sorry to the list, I don't seem to have Fil's e-mail.. > >Cheers, [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 4 23:17:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h154HMp09237 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:17:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:17:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050417.h154HLV09233@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org craigreece wrote: >Jason, > >Britalia in Berkeley diagnosed the problem (after I'd needless replaced >plugs, wires, cap and rotor and given up) and fixed it. They didn't replace >the entire distributor - just the pickup module. I never even looked at the >distributor after they'd finished to see if I could've done it - but I can't >imagine it would be too difficult to you yourself. > > I had to have both replaced as well. I think that a good mizewell (as in "if you're gonna do this you mizewell do that") situation for replacing the dizzy, but I have a scorched-earth policy regarding components in that (meaning the BP--not RN) price range. Note that my symptoms were not identical to yours. G just wouldn't run more than about 30 minutes when it was hot. Once he started up, he ran fine until the temp whacked the pickup. >Jason Pipes wrote: > >How did you fix this? Replace the entire distributer? Did you do this >yourself by chance? > > I did not replace it myself, but that's v. long story involving a 15-hour trip from Lassen to Shallow Alto. C From bens Tue Feb 4 23:27:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h154RCk09283 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:27:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:27:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050427.h154RBi09279@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Shannon Holland wrote: >Yep gsm coverage in the us is not as good as the cdma of sprint/verizon. >There is generally good gsm coverage in cities, but it drops off >strongly once you move to outlying areas (they all do, gsm just more >than others). > Since I use my phone primarily for work, that's a feature :-). I can always use 2M for emergencies. >Tmobile and cingular now share networks (which is why you can now buy a >tmobile phone in ca - most of the coverage is actually cingular, >although tmobile is adding cells). Tmobile is moderate here in the >bayarea, good in southern california and excellent on the east coast. > I'm pretty sure that AT&T GSM uses the same network, as well, as the phones are on the same freq (1900MHz). >If you do want gsm for international use, youneed to buy a international >gsm phone. The us uses a different frequency for gsm than most of the >rest of the world (I think there are three main gsm frequencies). > The three freqs are 1900MHz, 1800MHz, and 900MHz. If you get a dual-band phone (like the Ericsson T28World or R380 World), you'll be on 900MHz in Europe, and I noticed it didn't sound as good as the 1900 in the US did. A tri-band phone will give better Euro performance. >I think a lot of your choice depends on how you plan to use the phone? >If you want it for emergencies/widest possible coverage, then I'd >recomend a dual analog/digital phone (cdma). Verizon worked really well >for me. > Agreed. I used the switch to GSM to GOMLA and get a HAM license. >If you want a fancy phone then gsm can be good as well as the sprint 3g >stuff. > I think Sprint has surpassed the services available via the GSM/GPRS services, but there's not any real reason why they can't do it--Sprint is just trying harder right now. Verizon offers some pretty neato services now, too. >I personally use tmobile, but that's because I like to use my fancy >sidekick so I can get email/web/pda as well. I used to have a triband >analog/digital startac through verizon - for me that worked very well >and had excellent coverage. > Same here. I had analog signal on the entire Mojave Road in '99. >Like most things, as you look at it in more detail, it gets more >complicated. > Oh, man, is that ever true. In my last job, I had to dig into wireless protocols, and it turns out that the Marketing terms (TDMA/CDMA, etc.) are actually much more generic than you might think, so when you start talking to propeller heads at companies like Ericsson, you end up sounding like a moron to them. >The main thing is to try to buy a phone/carrier that suits your needs. > Yep. C > > From bens Tue Feb 4 23:30:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h154Ukf09318 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:30:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:30:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050430.h154UkZ09314@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org jarrod wyrick wrote: >The GSM phone you choose will also impact coverage. I have a T68i >and it works okay. However, I have a friend that has a nokia (model #?) >GSM phone that consistently gets a better connection. we both have AT&T. > Ericsson is just getting started in the internall antenna market. The Ericsson phones with the stylized antenna (T28, T29, R380) generally have much better reception than the Nokia phones with internal antennae. Nokia has been doing the internal thing longer and has it down better, from my observations. C From bens Tue Feb 4 23:35:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h154ZMK09349 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:35:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:35:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050435.h154ZMf09345@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Travel to London Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org tim boorman wrote: > > Hey Bruce - > > How long have you been over here for?? what part of Surrey did you live in - > i lived right on the boarder of Surrey, Hampshire and Berkshire (place > called Little Sandhurst inbetween Bracknell and Camberley - ring any > bells??) > erm yes, vaguely familiar ;-) I worked in Bracknell, and Camberley, and Farnborough, and Basingstoke, and Slough, etc, etc. I used to live on Horsell Common on the outskirts of Woking literally 250 yards away from the sandpit the martians first hit in War of the Worlds (the book, not the film :-) I've been out here nearly three years now. > your right about London though - it is a nice place to visit for culture etc > but i couldn't live there - brought up in the sticks which suits me fine - i > guess its the same as SF - i really enjoyed visiting the place as everything > was different and exciting. > exactly.. > I dont mean to put people off london, but there are some really nice places > to visit just a few miles out side the M25!! especially the pubs!!!!!!!!!! > Definitely, nowt better than sittin' outside coun'ry poob on warm summer's evening overlooking t'village green and watching nice gentle game of cricket. ... I have to say the lack of pub culture was one of the hardest transitions for me when I moved over and I still miss it badly.. Bruce From bens Tue Feb 4 23:44:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h154iGF09389 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:44:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:44:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050444.h154iGA09385@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Christopher Dow wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure that AT&T GSM uses the same network, as well, as the > phones are on the same freq (1900MHz). > Yes. > >If you do want gsm for international use, youneed to buy a international > >gsm phone. The us uses a different frequency for gsm than most of the > >rest of the world (I think there are three main gsm frequencies). > > > The three freqs are 1900MHz, 1800MHz, and 900MHz. If you get a > dual-band phone (like the Ericsson T28World or R380 World), you'll be on > 900MHz in Europe, and I noticed it didn't sound as good as the 1900 in > the US did. A tri-band phone will give better Euro performance. > Beware of this term. In Europe tri-band means the three digital frequencies you listed above, over here it often means a US digital, a European digital and a US analogue (or in the case of the Siemens a US TDMA digital), confused yet. I think the Euro performance sounds more like a phone problem, I've only ever had 900MHz phones for Europe and I always notice when I go back how much better the quality and coverage is, but these are European spec phones. > I think Sprint has surpassed the services available via the GSM/GPRS > services, but there's not any real reason why they can't do it--Sprint > is just trying harder right now. Verizon offers some pretty neato > services now, too. > Currently, but it's a tit for tat market. GPRS is about to make some major leaps forward which os one of the reasons AT&T has moved over to GSM. Either way unless it's a key feature for you now I wouldn't worry too much about the internet services currently on offer, that's a market with a lot of maturing to do. I'd worry more about coverage and basic services.. Bruce From bens Wed Feb 5 01:34:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h156YHQ11295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:34:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:34:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050634.h156YGx11291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: RE: London / Scotland trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- Well, we fly into London and are there for a mere 3 days, then take the train to Scotland (Edinburgh). From there to the Highlands to do some hiking. (Isle of Skye, etc.) Then back to Edinburgh to fly home. You can really only do so much in 14 days. sigh. Scotland seems to be the killer deal compared to London (price wise). Take care, Kelly Minnick From bens Wed Feb 5 02:47:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h157lEl11670 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:47:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:47:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050747.h157lDG11666@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SIII heater motor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] RW writes: > I'm looking for a heater motor. The later style from a series III is > what I'm on the look out for... LHD naturally. If anyone knows of a > parts truck with a heater motor, let me know Try Rovers Down South (www.roverdownsouth.com), I believe they carry them. My SIIa now has a Detroit Locker in the rear diff and hardened 24 spline axles, courtesy of Bill Davis At GBR. Karen Sindir From bens Wed Feb 5 02:59:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h157xjJ11716 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:59:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:59:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302050759.h157xjh11712@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ...Anybody want to buy a 109SW??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, The truck is located in Blythe, Ca. >From what I saw the other day: '65 109SW Tropical top SOLID chassis, bulkhead, and T-pieces: chassis has been re-painted, but no sign of ever having any rust recently re-covered seats (only 1 inward-facing bench in the truck) 2.25 petrol with Rochester carb has a hand throttle said to run & drive - and is currently registered has a towbar (jeep type) on front bumper it's LHD has spare mount on deluxe bonnet - mount on rear door missing Things I noticed: needs a rear muffler...dunno what the rest of the exhaust looks like has a full-width step welded onto the rear crossmember, with gas can holders at each corner has gas can holders on the rear quarter panels, aft of the rear wheels(!) front marker lights on wings are one: in place, are a pair of amber reflectors, and a pair of big-rig tail/stop lights that are recessed into the wings! (would have to replace the fronts of the wings to make it right again - otherwise, not a scratch there) truck is painted camoflauge - even the galvanizing spare tire mounted on strange (but very cool) mounting bracket inside R.H. side of bed, in place of the missing bench seat could probably use top seals some day (top windshield seal not there at all!), though sliders on top have the aluminum channels I talked with the owner today, and here's what he sez: Truck has a rebuilt block/bottom end, compliments of Wise Owl, and he still has the old engine - it goes with the truck if sold gearbox has been rebuilt, but from talking to the owner, it may have a slightly loose mainshaft nut (it was rebuilt locally, so this is possible) it does run & drive Has a charging problem: from talking to him, it may be a regulator, as he replaced the battery & had the generator rebuilt - then connected everything back to positive ground (it was negative ground when he bought it) owner/seller is remodelling house, and thus is asking $4500 for the truck, though he still isn't sure if he wants to sell it: claims no local "group support" (I guess he means therapy), & wife would like to see it gone since he only ever replaces stuff on it, and never takes it off-road! Reason it's painted camoflauge, is because owner was a paratrooper (not just a paratrooper, but a career man & saw action in Panama...we talked for nearly 2 hours, because after hearing what he had to say, there's a slight chance we may have crossed paths in other places...) He sez that he REALLY doesn't want to sell it, but I think the wife is pushing him: maybe if Gerry & others from Phoenix coax him out on a run (soon), he may be persuaded to keep it & join the group? His phone is 760-921-2720, and his name is Angel: he has a son of the same name, so ask for Angel senior. I mentioned Mendo to him, though it's a bit far for him to do on a weekend & with kids, but you never know. BTW...he mentioned that there's a "crusty old fart" in his area that also owns a 109SW that appears to have been sitting in the same spot for 15-20 years, but he doesn't want to even talk about selling it! YMMV Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 5 13:14:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15IEvg15578 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:14:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:14:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051814.h15IEuM15574@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Horn question... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, do any of you out there know, if the horn wiring must be changed in any way on a IIA, if going from positive ground to negative ground??? Am curious, as I don't want to fry another wiring harness that doesn't belong to me! Thanks, Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 5 13:34:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15IYZm15750 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:34:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051834.h15IYYD15746@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Horn question... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, No need to change the horn wires. But one thing I do is to add a horn relay to the circuit. You can use the two existing wires to activate the relay, and only need to add a wire from the relay to the horn. Then you could also use a one wire junkyard horn. Bob B At 10:14 AM 2/5/2003, you wrote: >Folks, > >do any of you out there know, if the horn wiring must be changed in any >way on a IIA, if going from positive ground to negative ground??? > >Am curious, as I don't want to fry another wiring harness that doesn't >belong to me! > >Thanks, [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 5 14:02:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15J2JR16095 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051902.h15J2J416091@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Oil pressure guage Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Here is what I plan to do. I will take some pictures for anyone interested. The external oil pump has the extra fitting (probably for an oil temp guage) just below and behind the oil pressure idiot light sender. This plug is threaded 1/2"-20 or UNF. There is no adapter bushing made that I can find.... so, I will take a spare plug (they come in the oil pump rebuild kit) and drill an 11/32" hole through it and run a 1/8" NPT tap through it. Most oil pressure guages (mechanical or electric use a 1/8" NPT fitting). Easy enough. If you have a suffix B engine and the oil pump is integral with the timing cover I can't help there. The plug for the stock sender is too small for an 11/32" hole (I think it is 7/16"UNF). -Mo From bens Wed Feb 5 14:09:24 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15J9OH16137 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051909.h15J9OO16133@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: 110 woes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason and Petra, I think I'm going to put the tofu on the BBQ anyhow- you are having such a bad string of luck. The description of yr problems sound to me to be way beyond "plugs, wires, cap, rotor" so I still maintain it is the amp and/or pick-up gone south or fuel pump (money is still on the former two). Dave G's advice re timing light sounds good. I did not replace the amp/pickup myself, but it did not take long for the mechanic to do it. I had both changed out at the same time so I never knew which one (maybe both?) caused the problem. Good luck, Blair From bens Wed Feb 5 14:19:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15JJgN16212 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:19:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:19:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051919.h15JJfI16208@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Software QA engineer needed (no LR content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We are looking for a software QA engineer. The job spec is wrong here http://www.interasset.com/jobs/index.html, but you can get the general idea. Email me directly if interested. Cheers. From bens Wed Feb 5 14:27:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15JR7M16312 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:27:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:27:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051927.h15JR7l16307@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Horn SPOTs... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...only need to add a wire from the relay to the horn...." And a wire from the relay to the battery. Don't do what some knucklehead did on my G and jumper the relay's primary hot to the secondary hot, and then on to the horn. I got a good laugh out of it though. :^)))) -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 5 14:43:32 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15JhWi16525 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051943.h15JhWB16521@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Oil pressure gauge Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....I will take a spare plug (they come in the oil pump rebuild kit) and drill an 11/32" hole through it and run a 1/8" NPT tap through it...." Good on ya. This way one can either leave their old idiot light, or augment it with a dual sensor in the new hole (or both). Datcon makes a huge line of nice gauges with integral warning lamps that work off of dual sensors (IE don't depend on contacts within the gage to light the light - an utterly silly concept, IMHO). And if anyone is in need of an adapter to go from 7/16 UNF to 1/8 NPT, I can make them easily enough. -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 5 14:46:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15JkY616574 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051946.h15JkYR16570@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Tranny capacity for RR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Rob- As I recall, it's something like 6 - 6.5 quarts to change the pan & filter. Hope this helps. Kelly Minnick > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:50:32 -0500 > From: "Kerner, Rob" > Subject: Tranny capacity for RR > > I know the transmission takes 10 quarts. But I assume that is when the > system is empty. If I just drained the sump, how much would I put in to > get it close before checking it? > > - -Rob From bens Wed Feb 5 14:47:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15Jlhh16589 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:47:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:47:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302051947.h15Jlhe16585@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Horn SPOTs... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The existing wires are: One from the battery via the distribution post on the starter button/solenoid, And one from the horn button that supplies ground when pressed. These are enough to activate a relay. I repeat you only need to add a wire from the relay to the horn. I've done at least three now. I even used a spare Datsun pickup horn relay. Bob B At 11:27 AM 2/5/2003, you wrote: >"...only need to add a wire from >the relay to the horn...." > >And a wire from the relay to the battery. Don't do what some knucklehead >did on my G and jumper the relay's primary hot to the secondary hot, and >then on to the horn. > >I got a good laugh out of it though. :^)))) > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 5 16:35:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15LZjN17297 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:35:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:35:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302052135.h15LZjY17293@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: new address Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org my new address will be msandcdg@sbcglobal.net Ben, can you correct your list for me. Thanks Mehdi From bens Wed Feb 5 16:50:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15Lox417408 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:50:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:50:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302052150.h15LowD17403@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce Subject: Fw: On British Car Magazine Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ I edited the greating that majordomo thought was spam -Ben ] Thought I'd forward this for those that haven't heard. Charles --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) To: (Recipient list suppressed) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:58:06 -0800 Subject: On British Car Magazine Message-ID: Dear F******* and R*******, I was as surprised and concerned as you all were when the word about the Motorsport Marketing Inc. buyout of British Car Magazine started to spread on the web. After all, I have been a writer and later on the Editorial Board since Dave Destler started the publication over 100 issues ago. I was just as surprised when Dave sold the magazine to Gary Anderson, but having known Gary and Genie for over 20 years through the SF Bay Area Healey Club and our Palo Alto British Car Meet, I knew that we were in good hands. The internet is a wonderful communication tool that has the ability to get ahead of itself, and since I am on most British car lists, I get to see the buzz from all over right away. Gary called Monday to say he was sorry that all of us had to hear the info before we were personally contacted - but that's the way the web is woven. As I understand it, even though British Car Magazine was getting creatively and journalistically better with each issue, a ceiling had been reached and the magazine had pretty much been built to it's potential. They had acquired most of the interested subscribers that there were, all of the advertisers willing to put their money into a hobby builder, and a size (amount of pages) that this level of participation could commercially support. I have edited club pubs, local neighborhood pubs and put in my time as editor, feature editor and production editor at Convertible Magazine, Collector Car News and Victory Lane vintage racing magazine. I know how much production costs and how limiting a tight budget and smaller pool of enthusiasts can be. Two of these mags went belly up while I was working there (damn, maybe it's ME!) and the other was bought out and changed while I was off to organize the California British Car Meets. I came back to find a bunch of strange staff in the office and my trusty Mac replaced with a PC and a new production editor to operate it!!! I talked with Editor Gary at length and what I got from the conversation is that we are in good hands with the new owners and we will be able to do more and better work with what we have been doing with our British cars plus get the additional information about similar, competitive cars from other parts of the world. This merger of the minds and editorial policy is based from the editor's interest in vintage racing, where a primarily British lineup is augmented with cars from around the world. These are the cars that competed in the marketplace, on showroom floors and race tracks around the world. Just because the new Classic Motorsport will now include cars from other countries than the UK does not mean that this will become a scattershot, all marque affair with hot rods, '57 Chevys, and moody dark reflective pix of late model Ferraris and babes lounging on Porsches. The new mag is to feature classic Porches, Alfas, Datsun roadsters and 240Zs. Maybe I'll be able to sell them a VW/Morris Minor comparison article. I personally have owned a number of BMWs, Citroens, Datsun 510s and a Peugeot along with my MGs, Rileys, and over 50(!) Morris Minors - these cars are all fun and quite similar (except for the Citroen DS21 - I think that it was designed on Mars!). American cars will be more like classic Corvettes, Z28 Cameros and Boss 302 Mustangs, the cars that went fender to fender (OK, wing to wing!) with our Jags, Cobras and Sunbeam Tigers on the track. We enthusiasts have to realize that as the old car hobby condenses into a smaller group that will then break again into show-ers, racers and backyard tinkers and then again into smaller groups of rodders, restorers and modernized cruisers, we are going to have to combine certain aspects of the hobby to maintain our special interest publications. This one should be painless. Please don't winge about the loss, be happy about the fact that we are still here and are going to be bringing you more and better info on your favorite Britiron as well as additional info on cars from other parts of the world. Thanks for listening - the Official Word is included below. Cheers, Rick Feibusch writer/editor/show coordinator/local politician (more business cards than W.C.Fields!) Venice , CA - ----------------------------------------------------- Press Release Ormond Beach, Florida, January 31, 2003 Motorsport Marketing, Inc., Publishers of Grassroots Motorsports, has announced their purchase of British Car Magazine on January 30. British Car will be relaunched this spring as Classic Autosport, with British Car's Gary Anderson as editor. Classic Autosport magazine will offer classic car enthusiasts more depth in its technical coverage and a wider range of classic performance automobile coverage, British, as well as European, American, and others. Classic Autosport will be all-color, perfect-bound and will start with at least 100 pages. >From his office in Los Altos, California, Gary Anderson, editor and publisher of British Car Magazine since 1996 said "I'm really looking forward to editing the new magazine. With the strong technical and publishing resources of Motorsport Marketing, we'll be able to provide more detailed information on our favorite British cars while covering the other marques that were so much a part of the sports car hobby as we knew it in the fifties, sixties, and seventies." In making the announcement, Tim Suddard, president of Motorsport Marketing and publisher of Grassroots Motorsports, said "As classic car enthusiasts ourselves, we have had a dream for over ten years of adding a classic car magazine to our activities. With the acquisition of British Car, we have the core around which to create the kind of magazine we have always wanted ourselves, in the same way we have built Grassroots Motorsports." The expanded magazine will give British Car readers more tech features, emphasizing ways to improve reliability, safety, and performance of classic cars. In addition, Classic Autosport will be building its own project cars like those that Grassroots Motorsports is famous for building. Classic car meet and vintage racing coverage will be expanded. All of this will be added while the magazine will still maintain the enthusiasm for classic cars that British Car readers have come to expect. The first project cars planned for the new publication include an MG Midget and Porsche 911, while the magazine will also campaign a pair of vintage racers: Publisher Tim Suddard will continue to run his Triumph TR3 at East Coast events, while Editor Gary Anderson will campaign an MGA on the West Coast. The April/May issue of British Car will be the last one to carry the old name and logo. British Car readers will see no interruption of service, as they will be the first to receive this new and expanded publication. The first issue of Classic Autosport will be mailed in late May and on the newsstands by 3 June. For more information on the new magazine, a sneak preview of the new editorial calendar, and an opportunity to chat with the staff, as well as to find subscription information, check the Web site, www.classicautosport.net. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------- End of Forwarded Message From bens Wed Feb 5 17:46:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15MkQb17776 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:46:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:46:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302052246.h15MkQ317772@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Fw: On British Car Magazine Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 04:50 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote: >British Car will be relaunched this spring as Classic Autosport... Damn! And I had just re-subscribed (thinking that if Jared was going to be into cars -- he loves to watch them go by -- it might as well be the right kind of cars. Now I'll have to cancel the sub before it even gets started. 8^( (I'm sorry, I'm just not into ferraris and corvettes and especially citroens.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Wed Feb 5 18:20:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h15NKI518118 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:20:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:20:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302052320.h15NKI518114@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 won't start or maintain idle... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, your symptoms sound similar to the ones I was just fighting with on the Range Rover. Before spending any more money, I would try resetting the computer. On the 89 Range Rover that means disconnecting the battery for a half hour or so. I suspect it may be similar on your 110. After replacing every ignition component, and it was still not running, I reset the computer and it fired right up. The pickup coil on the inside of the distributor is easy to swap out. I have a spare one which you can have. There are some tests in the shop manual to see if it is good or not. James From bens Thu Feb 6 00:37:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h165b2321771 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:37:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:37:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302060537.h165b1f21767@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: '04 D90/'03 Disco II Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bruce wrote: >Hmmm... a "04 D90", you must the first one to see >next years model. :-) It was just a square taillight '94 (it looks like my finger missed the "9" key. I did get a chance to drive a '03 Disco II for the last few days in San Diego. I was down there for a commercial lending conference and when I called Hertz a couple weeks back I asked for a SUV since I might end up hulling a bunch of people around. I was expecting an Explorer (what I usually get from Hertz) and I sure was surprised to get an Oxford blue (the same color as my HSE) Disco II. The '03 Discos have the Bosch injected 4.6L engine and the Disco II felt faster than my Range Rover with the Lucas injected 4.6L engine. Kevin From bens Thu Feb 6 02:04:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1674Qu22295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:04:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:04:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302060704.h1674Qw22291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was working throughout western Europe last July and our camera assistant bought an unblocked dual band Nokia 3360 over the internet for $100 and change. When we got to wherever it was, we'd hit say an Orange store (Italy/Denmark) or some other European carrier and buy a card and some minutes. We were off and running- it was pretty darn easy. The minutes were WAAY cheaper than what ANY US carrier would charge for international cell calls. I can't see the advantage of using your US phone there cuz you couldn't find a carrier anyway. -Lou Weinert _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Thu Feb 6 02:09:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1679no22324 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302060709.h1679m922320@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: London / Scotland trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There is a pedestrian street parallel to Princess Street in Edinburgh (the main drag in town) Well it seems like a good two kilometers of pub to pub- a serious crawl. Real old school stuff as well. Prices based on alcohol content of the beer. Or at least thats what I remembered. -Lou Weinert >Hi guys- >Well, we fly into London and are there for a mere 3 days, then take the >train to Scotland (Edinburgh). From there to the Highlands to do some >hiking. (Isle of Skye, etc.) Then back to Edinburgh to fly home. You can >really only do so much in 14 days. sigh. Scotland seems to be the killer >deal compared to London (price wise). Take care, > >Kelly Minnick _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Thu Feb 6 11:59:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16Gx7q25746 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:59:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:59:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061659.h16Gx7u25742@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Flakey tach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The RR has a flakey tach. When I started it up yesterday, the tach was sitting on the needle. If I revved the engine the tach would raise up and then drop back to the needle. If I raise the rpms a little it is jumpy and seems to be reading low. When I raise the rpm above 1000 it seems to jump up to the correct rpm and is fine. The Alternator is 4 months old, so am I looking at a tach going south or is there something else other than the alternator that could affect it? Could this affect the cruise control? -Rob From bens Thu Feb 6 12:30:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16HUVn25947 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:30:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:30:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061730.h16HUV325943@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Flakey tach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Performance like that has come and gone a few times on Cheryl's '92 as well. I never dug any deeper into it (it also has a new-ish alternator). No effect on cruise control (or drivability otherwise) though. -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 6 12:45:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16Hjk726184 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:45:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:45:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061745.h16HjkW26180@minbar.fourfold.org> From: nicholas harteau To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Flakey tach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You're absolutely sure the alternator belt isn't slipping below 1000rpm? you could try tightening it just a tad and/or spraying some of that belt-grab stuff on it and see if that fixes things. Kerner, Rob wrote: > > The RR has a flakey tach. When I started it up yesterday, the tach was > sitting on the needle. If I revved the engine the tach would raise up > and then drop back to the needle. If I raise the rpms a little it is > jumpy and seems to be reading low. When I raise the rpm above 1000 it > seems to jump up to the correct rpm and is fine. The Alternator is 4 > months old, so am I looking at a tach going south or is there something > else other than the alternator that could affect it? Could this affect > the cruise control? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- nicholas harteau nrh@ikami.com From bens Thu Feb 6 13:13:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16IDRp26446 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:13:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:13:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061813.h16IDQK26442@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Flakey tach Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....sure the alternator belt isn't slipping....?" An interesting thought.... FWIW, I haven't noticed the problem since I replaced the belts. Many of them were pretty glazed. And the times I DID notice the problem before, it was in the first few minutes of driving, when alternator load would be high. Or it could be that I just ignored the tach after that.... :^) Never got a squeal from the belts, but I'm not sure that means anything considering their condition. -Dave G From bens Thu Feb 6 13:24:51 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16IOpW26541 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:24:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:24:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061824.h16IOpM26537@minbar.fourfold.org> From: jarrod wyrick To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: mendo- about the time of G4 Challenge? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi All, Anyone know the date(s) for the G4 Challenge in Moab. The event ends May 2nd, but I do not know the exact dates because the G4 wabsite is not loading the flash player. Is anyone planing on attending? It looks like it might be abut the same time as mendo. -Jarrod 00' Disco II From bens Thu Feb 6 14:00:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16J0Mu26829 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:00:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:00:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061900.h16J0Ls26825@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: mendo- about the time of G4 Challenge? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jarrod, The exact dates are being firmed up as we speak. I'll be attending the leg from Vegas to Moab. Anyone else planning on going? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From bens Thu Feb 6 14:48:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16Jm5627332 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:48:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302061948.h16Jm5I27328@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Re: mendo- about the time of G4 Challenge? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >> I'll be attending the leg from Vegas to Moab.<< Mike are you still sworn to secrecy and if not what interesting stuff can you tell us about the G4? FWIW I applied but had an awful time getting their online application to work. I think I made about 10 separate attempts but it was really buggy. (I thought the whole website was long on gloss but short on function.) I have my doubts as to whether my app was ever really submitted in complete form. Mo From bens Thu Feb 6 15:03:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16K3Vk27439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:03:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:03:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302062003.h16K3VX27435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: mendo- about the time of G4 Challenge? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hmmm....interesting stuff.... Well, I *think* what I can tell you (what little I know that is...) is that basically the rules stipulate that you have to travel from Vegas to Moab, camp at several different pre-determined campsites, use a mininum of X of the different available modes of travel you have (car, bike, kayak, climbing...), and get there first. I don't know if they have checkpoints along the way, or if the fact that they can actually navigate from A to B is the judging. That's what I know as of today. The final stages of the planning have been kind of, well, let's just say they are fluid. So, things might have changed that I don't know of. I am WAAAAAYYYYYY WAAAAAYYYYY down the ladder of information, and so all of the above should be taken with a BIG grain of salt (there, now I've protected myself from being completely wrong). Michael _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Thu Feb 6 16:02:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16L2iN27950 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:02:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:02:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302062102.h16L2ig27944@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: cell phones again (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Lou Weinert wrote: > > minutes. We were off and running- it was pretty darn easy. The minutes were > WAAY cheaper than what ANY US carrier would charge for international cell > calls. I can't see the advantage of using your US phone there cuz you > couldn't find a carrier anyway. > Weeeelll, yes if you're making local European calls but if someone's dialling you from the US then ultimately someone has to pick up the international phone bill. The two reasons I carry a US phone with me in Europe is so that people here can dial my locla US number and still reach me, I can then sort out calling back via a cheaper option, and text messaging, which I use a lot. As for finding a carrier, that's exactly what roaming agreements are for, I can take a Cingular phone or an AT&T phone and it will work in Europe via Vodaphone, Celnet, Telefonica, Bougeytel etc, and T-Mobile seem to be doing even better on the seamless roaming front and their call charges are pretty reasonable under the circumstances (in fact on reflection I wish I'd chosen T-Mobile over AT&T) Bruce From bens Thu Feb 6 18:41:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16Nftr29435 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:41:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302062341.h16NftJ29431@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Virtual Library Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I would like to donate my Hardcastle Tuning the Rover V8 book to the mendo list virtual library. Anyone interested in checking it out email me and I'll send it to you. When you're done with it, send it on to whomever would like it next. So first email offline gets it first. Tom Durango From bens Thu Feb 6 18:57:41 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h16Nvfe29572 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:57:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:57:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200302062357.h16Nvfo29568@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Hardcastle book - virtual library Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Eric Johnson was mighty quick on the keyboard and will be checking the book out. He'll let the list know when he is done with it for the next mad dash on the book. Tom Durango From bens Fri Feb 7 02:22:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h177MLs01203 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:22:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:22:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302070722.h177MLp01199@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave Road - small report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Threw up some pics and some text about the Mojave Road Trip. http://www.tawayama.com/safaris/recent%20trips/Mojave%20Road/mojaveroad.html Gerry, and everyone else, thanks again for a wonderful experience. It's now in my menu of trips. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Fri Feb 7 02:34:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h177YiS01250 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:34:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302070734.h177Yhn01246@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: rovers@mbz.org, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Going off the lists for a while... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, the time has come to unplug computers, and move them - and their desks - to Visalia: hopefully, this will be done before Janet kills me! (she's not too happy at present, due to the slow pace of the move which was supposed to be finished at the end ot last year...) I'll be on until Friday eve, and will continue to check email until then. I'll probably be off both lists until the end of the month at the latest, so Ben and Davide, please don't bump me off the lists. Thanks, Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Fri Feb 7 13:32:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h17IWej05243 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:32:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:32:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302071832.h17IWen05239@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sighting... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...Right around the corner from me! A SIII SWB painted poppy red with a limestone top, and black roof rack. White license plate 4SST155 that has been painted black/yellow. Weller 8-spoke wheels in chrome, with wider than original tires. What looked like a Bellveue winch on it - maybe an old Warn. It also had some funny looking bumperrettes on it - like those from a tow truck. Anybody??? Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Fri Feb 7 15:34:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h17KYsL06055 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302072034.h17KYsj06051@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: V8 oil pressure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The 1991 RR GDE is back together - I added all new lifters, complete rocker arm assemblies (only $69 each from RN), and pushrods - rebuilt the oil pump with new spring and valve, and now running a quart of ATF with the fresh oil to clean the oilways.... The tapping noise is gone! I suspect it was #8 exhaust lifter in combination with generally worn rocker arms. After tapping the oil pump plug for a mechanical shop guage - the oil pressure is 30psi at 2500 rpm and 12psi at idle (750 rpm) - with engine warm. The low oil pressure light is still turning on and off - and flickering throughout the pressure range. The oil light sender seems to be operating properly (multimeter test - open curcuit at idle, closed when off) so I assume this fault is the "logic unit" for the oil light. I am installing a VDO guage, so I will try to bypass the oil light or somehow turn it off. Other work on this thing has included: Removed the headliner and painted it with textured paint Installed OME medium duty springs and shocks Added BFG All-Terrains 245-75-16 Removed all the rear carpeting and rear load panels to increase dog area Repaired the sunroof I still need to get the seat adjustment motors to work properly and put a bottle of Grey Poupon in the tool kit. Cheers, -Mo From bens Sat Feb 8 01:42:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h186g7h11325 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:42:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:42:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302080642.h186g7u11321@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #972 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mo- The low oil pressure might possibly be because of the very light oil (ATF added), but that pressure is quite low. Most idiot lights come on in the 12 - 18 psi range. Not good for the engine. Usually low oil pressure is indicative of worn bearings as they are allowing the oil to seep out too fast. With a rebuilt pump, I wonder what the pump is able to put out. (wondering out loud if it's a pump Vs bearing issue). I'm assuming both gears were replaced and the retaining plate was flat? Also, did the check valve move freely in the bore? (my new piston did not and had to be polished). Also, a 20-50Wt oil would help the pressure and is good down to 0 degrees F. Take care, Kelly Minnick > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:54 -0500 > From: "Hannaford, Morgan" > Subject: V8 oil pressure > > The 1991 RR GDE is back together - I added all new lifters, > complete rocker arm assemblies (only $69 each from RN), > and pushrods - rebuilt the oil pump with new spring and valve, and > now running a quart of ATF with the fresh oil to clean the oilways.... > The tapping noise is gone! I suspect it was #8 exhaust lifter in [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Clip... > > Cheers, > - -Mo From bens Sat Feb 8 03:19:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h188JXS11675 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 03:19:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 03:19:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302080819.h188JXV11671@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: 109 FS in Santa Rosa Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A fellow British car nut wrote: :> Just have to brag a little bit........ My Marcos has been :> selected as Car of the Month on the British Car Forum :> :> http://www.britishcarforum.com/ :> :>Just click on the picture of my car in the lower right :> corner of the page. He also wrote: :> FYI: There's a Series II for sale in the Press Demo. I checked on pressdemo.com and found: 1964 LAND ROVER Series IIA, 109 Wagon, all original $8500/ofr (707) 527-1043 & 291-4330 (in "Automobiles Classic & Antique") Granny From bens Sat Feb 8 04:11:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h189BFl11994 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:11:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:11:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302080911.h189BEW11990@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 109 FS in Santa Rosa Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Granville Pool wrote: > > A fellow British car nut wrote: > > :> Just have to brag a little bit........ My Marcos has > been > :> selected as Car of the Month on the British Car Forum > :> > :> http://www.britishcarforum.com/ > :> [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] What a beaut!!!!!! I'm jealous! maye I can finish spritsing up these two midgets and someday pick one up! I only know of the red one around the bay area. good to see there are two at least. Paul two midgets two Land-Rovers two vw vanagons(ok, three, but none are mine...) almost two ducati ....and the only one that runs wortha darn is the adventurewagon synchro I am selling for my brother....go figure __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Sat Feb 8 05:01:51 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h18A1p412244 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:01:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:01:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200302081001.h18A1pR12240@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Range Rover Classic Seats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Morgan wrote: >I still need to get the seat adjustment motors to work >properly Odds are that Morgan's seat motors are fine and he just has dirty switches. You can usually get the Range Rover seats to move by blasting a little contact cleaner in the holes and moving the switch back and forth. I always carry a spray can of contact cleaner and it came in handy this summer after my 5'2" friend Megan drove the Range Rover with the seat all the way forward. For detailed instructions on how to take apart and clean the switches go to: http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/seatcontrols.htm Kevin From bens Sat Feb 8 16:33:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h18LXNG15818 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:33:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:33:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302082133.h18LXNO15814@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Range Rover Radiator Hose and Detailing Kit Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a new "3 Leg" Range Rover Classic lower radiator hose that I bought to keep as a spare but never used. I want to pass it on to someone that can use it for $5 if you pick it up ay my apartment in SF or office in Mill Valley (I think they are about $30 places like AB and BP and over $50 at the dealer) or $10 if I mail it (postage will be close to $5). I also have an Automotive detailing kit that I got from the owner when I bought my HSE. None of the seven products in the big box has been used (wash concentrate, glass cleaner, spot remover, cleans-all, paint renewer, leather renewer and interior shampoo) and there is also a chamois and wool wash mit. The guy said the detailing box cost $100 at the dealer, I'll sell it for $5 but you have to pick it up since it is too big to easily mail. I'm sure everything in the kit works fine, but I have real brand loyalty with the car care stuff I use. I have been buying most of the products I use from Car Care Specialties, Inc. for years and if any one wants to read some great articles on car care go to the site below and click on how-to articles. http://www.carcareonline.com Kevin From bens Sun Feb 9 23:20:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A4KsQ26223 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:20:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:20:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100420.h1A4KsL26219@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: V8 oil light mystery solved Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The low oil light mystery on my '91 GDE has been solved. I used a multimeter to check the ohms of the circuit at the light in the instrument panel - after finding that darn "white w/brown tracer" wire. Contact good (0.2ohms) with engine off - circuit open with wire disconnected from oil pressure switch. Start the engine. Circuit opens with oil pressure for about 10 seconds - then reads high resistance (2 MegOhms) and fluctuates. Disconnect the wire from the sender and it still reads a contact. The wiring diagram shows the heated front windscreen relay and oil level logic unit taps into this wire. I'm assuming the windscreen uses it to override the relay with the engine off - the logic unit I could not find. Anyway, I rewired the oil switch directly to the light on the instrument cluster and voila!! Oil pressure light now functions properly. Thanks need to go to John Brabyn's website for pointing out this possible problem - and override solution. -Morgan From bens Sun Feb 9 23:25:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A4P6J26254 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:25:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:25:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100425.h1A4P6126250@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: V8 oil presssure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org 30psi at 2500rpm is within spec - albeit low spec. 12psi at idle (warm) is normal from what I gather - most VDO oil switches operate at under 7-8psi. I suspect the factory switch switches off above 8psi. -Morgan From bens Sun Feb 9 23:40:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A4exq26369 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:40:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:40:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100440.h1A4exD26365@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Range Rover Seat switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin is correct - here is how I fixed the seats. 1. Read the website article on how to carefully disassemble the seat switches. 2. Proceed to destroy the passenger switch with a big screwdriver - sending springs and bearings everywhere. Only half-destroy driver's side switch. 3. Blow the fuse trying to "hotwire" the seats with a piece of wire. 4. Find the fuse after studying the factory workshop manual. 5. Wonder if Land-Rover employs small children or dwarfs to install relays and fuses in Range Rovers. 6. Use driver seat switch as a model and figure out how contacts work 7. Properly "hotwire" the switch using 2 pieces of wire simultaneously to adjust seat in acceptable position. 8. Purchase used seat switches from Mike Slade's parts Rangie. I think I'm getting the hang of this plushie mechanics stuff! -Mo From bens Mon Feb 10 00:55:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A5t5M28153 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:55:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:55:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100555.h1A5t5p28149@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: V8 oil presssure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hannaford, Morgan wrote: >30psi at 2500rpm is within spec - albeit low spec. >12psi at idle (warm) is normal from what I > > Yeah, that was hard to get used to in G. I was used to the light coming on at 20PSI in R. C From bens Mon Feb 10 00:55:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A5tdH28177 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:55:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:55:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100555.h1A5tdx28173@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover Seat switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hannaford, Morgan wrote: 8< >I think I'm getting the hang of this plushie mechanics stuff! > > I'll say! C From bens Mon Feb 10 01:30:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A6UEX28337 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:30:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100630.h1A6UEo28333@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Spotted a white Range Rover classic, possibly an '88? (40th anniv sticker, exposed hinges) in San Bruno by Long's Drugs (Bayhill Plaza). Interesting thing was the row of badges on the front, including a South African Automobile Assn, RAC, Midland Auto Club (or something like that), and a couple of others. Didn't have a chance to look too closely, though. Also, I've seen a newer range rover (not the newest type, but it had handles like our Disco II) with the plate "SF ROVER". This was in (duh) SF. Lastly, in Walnut Creek, spotted a Disco with the plate "ROER". --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 10 01:30:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1A6UF228345 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:30:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302100630.h1A6UFD28341@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone have any thoughts on mounting a hi-lift jack on a disco? I'm thinking that standing up on the rear bumper, on the hinge side might work, but I haven't really looked to see if there's room. We're probably going to go with a roof-top tent rather than a rack, so the rack mount isn't an option. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 10 08:38:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ADc3O30288 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:38:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:38:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101338.h1ADc3E30283@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Dick Lague" To: Subject: RE: Range Rover Seat switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 30 lines filtered. ] Well done....makes me grateful my 1991 GDE is only a fond memory and not sitting in my driveway. I got enough broken stuff to fix!! From bens Mon Feb 10 09:28:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AES6T30581 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:28:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:28:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101428.h1AES6V30577@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: V8 oil light mystery solved Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....Oil pressure light now functions properly....." Well, sort of.... Isn't the light supposed to also function as an oil level light? Sounds like that's the part that was broken/malfunctioning. If you choose to bypass the circuit rather than repair it, keep some permanent record of what you did. Added wiring strung around the vehicle is less obvious to the next person trying to troubleshoot than say, the old electrical tape on the instrument cluster. :^) -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 10 09:50:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AEoDk30732 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:50:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:50:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101450.h1AEoDB30728@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a roof top tent, a Hannibal and it's great. The tent goes on a rack and although yes, the tent does take a lot of the real estate up there you still have some room. I recently had a friend put my hi-lift up there on the side of the rack. I put notes on how it's mounted (pretty simply) on my webpage on the 'about my landrover' page. http://homepage.mac.com/nancyehart Nancy nancyehart@mac.com '97 blued90 #0047 On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 10:30 PM, Roger Sinasohn wrote: > > Anyone have any thoughts on mounting a hi-lift jack on a disco? I'm > thinking that standing up on the rear bumper, on the hinge side might > work, > but I haven't really looked to see if there's room. We're probably > going > to go with a roof-top tent rather than a rack, so the rack mount isn't > an > option. Thanks! [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] nancyehart@mac.com '97 blued90 #0047 From bens Mon Feb 10 10:12:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AFClT30890 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:12:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:12:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101512.h1AFCkZ30886@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I recently had a friend put my hi-lift up there on the side of the rack...." Will your friend be available to get it down? :^) Just kidding. I have mine on the rack too and like that 'cause it stays relatively clean and thus works when I need it. But it is a bit more of a challenge to lift it so high and keep it from falling on you as you disconnect the fastenings. A well designed mounting will take care of most of the latter, but it's still kind of a pain to lift it up there, relative to some other mountings like on a spare tire carrier or bumper. The mount that attaches it to the center of the spare tire is probably okay if you only use it when going off road. It's a bit too much weight to leave hanging on the door all the time, IMHO. The mount for the top of an ARB bumper is nice if you have one, as is makes it very easy to load/unload the jack. But you need to keep a cover on it or something up there if you'll drive with it there all the time as it will get dirty and rusty in a hurry from road grime. Good excuse to get a new rear bumper that can offer better rear body protection, take the spare off the door, and add capacity for hi-lift, jerry can(s) and maybe a little jamboree rack. No where to mount the hi-lift? Drop $1500 on a bumper! :^) -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 10 10:29:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AFT6t31039 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:29:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:29:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101529.h1AFT6Q31035@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Actually :) Joe has a system for getting heavy things down from on top of his camper which I plan on also using for things on my rack. He claims it works easily. Use a boat type rope (with a loop) and use that in a pulley system to get it down/up (making sure the window is covered and cleared). I plan on trying that because that hi lift is darn heavy but perhaps with two ropes to balance the jack. btw, I also have a siphon hose so I never have to take the jerry cans down either... just connect the hose up to the cans on the rack. I decided against the door mount also because I have kids getting in and out of the back and with the spare tire on the door it's already too heavy. Nancy On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 07:12 AM, Gomes, David wrote: > > "...I recently had a friend put my hi-lift > up there on the side of the rack...." > > Will your friend be available to get it down? :^) Just kidding. I > have > mine on the rack too and like that 'cause it stays relatively clean > and thus > works when I need it. But it is a bit more of a challenge to lift it [ 32 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 10 11:54:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AGs0T32200 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:54:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:54:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101654.h1AGs0W32196@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Isaac Fain To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org fwiw, i've taken to strapping mine down on the forward rear-seat railing in the back seat floor-board instead of fooling with the rack. (strap it down well, you don't want it bouncing around in there) there's an aesthetic benefit here as well in that it keeps the j**prs guessing (and cussing) as you cheerfully bounce 'n rock down the trail . . . cheers, isaac / "gatsby" / seattle --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "...I recently had a friend put my hi-lift > up there on the side of the rack...." > > Will your friend be available to get it down? :^) Just kidding. I have > mine on the rack too and like that 'cause it stays relatively clean and thus > works when I need it. But it is a bit more of a challenge to lift it so > high and keep it from falling on you as you disconnect the fastenings. A > well designed mounting will take care of most of the latter, but it's still [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bens Mon Feb 10 14:42:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AJgV101313 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:42:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:42:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101942.h1AJgVY01309@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Joe Ward To: mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org Subject: Repair shop recommendations (tangential L-R content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry to take up bandwidth with an off-topic request, but I was hoping someone could reccomend an honest and competent repair shop for my wife's Dodge Caravan in or near Oakland. (I haven't been happy with any of the places I've tried yet.) The tangential Land-Rover content is that if I can find a place to take care of the wife's car, I'll have more time to lavish affection on my Land-Rover. Thanks in advance, Joe Ward 67' 109" SW From bens Mon Feb 10 14:48:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AJmiJ01353 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:48:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:48:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302101948.h1AJmiP01349@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: 1997 Range Rover I might buy. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There was actually a Range Rover in the local Flagstaff paper this weekend. This happens once a year. It is a 1997 4.0 SE. I went to test drive it, and here are my impressions: It is almost as slow as my 1989 Range Rover. The engine seems to have more power, and it revs to a little more that 5000 rpm before it shifts. Mine shifts at 4000. The extra power is offset by the greater weight, I presume. It handles a little bit better. It certainly rolls less, and after seeing the size of the front antiroll bar I know why. Shifting into low range is not as quick as I expected. Does it do it electrically? I think I like the two lever arrangement of earlier rovers better. The air suspension is fun to play with. There are a lot of detail differences that are nicer. The rear seat and rear cargo area are a lot bigger. It is a lot quieter, but I was surpised how much wind noise there was at 75 mph. It seems to come from the A-pillar, although it may be from the brush bar. The transmission filter sure loots a lot easier to change. I could only find three things wrong with it. An oil cooler hose leaks. There are some small surface cracks in the front air springs. Does that mean they are due for replacement, or will it soldier on for a long time like this? One of the front fog lights has a crack in the lens. I can't decide if I want a RRII, or if I want a good Classic LWB. From bens Mon Feb 10 15:53:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AKrXL01858 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:53:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:53:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102053.h1AKrXu01850@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:12 AM 2/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >can(s) and maybe a little jamboree rack. No where to mount the hi-lift? >Drop $1500 on a bumper! :^) Well, a complete set of SafariGard body armour is in the plans -- it's just not in the budget right now. 8^/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 10 15:53:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AKrXV01859 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:53:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:53:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102053.h1AKrXl01851@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hi-lift on a disco? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 09:50 AM 2/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >I have a roof top tent, a Hannibal and it's great. The tent goes on a >rack and although yes, the tent does take a lot of the real estate up >there you still have some room. I recently had a friend put my hi-lift >up there on the side of the rack. I put notes on how it's mounted >(pretty simply) on my webpage on the 'about my landrover' page. >http://homepage.mac.com/nancyehart Nice vehicle! Unfortunately, the tent at which we're looking (the Columbus model at ) pretty much precludes a roof rack. Plus, after a little unintentional off-roading in Foster City, I'm not sure I want to be tempted into loading too much stuff up there. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 10 17:32:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AMWB302753 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102232.h1AMWBd02749@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Scott Bronson" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: MHANNAFORD@ShastaCollege.edu Subject: Re: Range Rover Seat switches Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys. I'm convinced that it's inductive arcing that kills the switches. If you solder two 16V zener diodes attached back-to-back across each of the 4 pairs of posts underneath the switch, you probably won't ever have to replace it again. |\ /| O----| >----< |-----O |/ \| Apparently, when Land Rover adopted the Mercedes switches, they adopted different, much higher-inductance motors. It's too bad their engineers didn't do the math. $2.50 worth of diodes (16x$0.15) diodes can save $180 (Mercedes prices) or $300 (Land Rover prices) worth of seat switches. It takes a long time to solder, though. :) If I had a digital camera, I'd send pics. Apologies. OK, back to lurking... > > Kevin is correct - here is how I fixed the seats. > 1. Read the website article on how to carefully > disassemble the seat switches. > 2. Proceed to destroy the passenger switch with > a big screwdriver - sending springs and bearings > everywhere. Only half-destroy driver's side switch. > 3. Blow the fuse trying to "hotwire" the seats with > a piece of wire. [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 10 18:01:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AN11g02963 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:01:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:01:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102301.h1AN11m02959@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR Stereo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If you were replacing the head unit of your stock RR stereo, what would you be looking at? Criteria. Plays nicely. Has Changer controls. High power. My big problem is from the subwoofer and amp. My plan is to buy a reasonably good head unit with a smaller changer, and bypass the woofer and amp. If I can get a small changer and mount it vertically, I'll pull the woofer and amp and get all that extra cargo area. So far I am looking at the Pioneer DEH350 with changer. ~$400 for both. I will also probably replace the stock speakers when I get a chance. I was going to have this professionaly installed since they will run better speaker wires, and do all the AMP subwoofer bypass stuff. It is worth the $100, becuase it would probably take me all day. Any advice accepted. -Rob From bens Mon Feb 10 18:06:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1AN6Fp03001 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:06:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:06:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102306.h1AN6FI02997@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR SHocks replaced with Bilsteins Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I replaced the Original shocks this weekend with Bilsteins. Here are my observations. 1. Bushings were in terrible shape. One of the rear ones, the shock was wearing the hole larger. 2. It is easy, except for the top nut on the front shocks, becuase the shock spins. In the rear I just put a large wrench on the shock to hold it. That wouldn't work on the front. First I tried my the air rachet, but that just spun the shock too. Then I tried the impact gun. It had enough speed to spin off the nut. 3. Install would have been easy except that Bilstein sent ONE wrong nut for the front. They should have sent M12X1.5 like all the rest of the hardware, but one nut ended up being M12X1.75. This mistake cost me a black eye when the wrench slipped off and I hit myself in the face, then I had to go get the right nut. GRRRRR. Yes I know not to have my face there, I just forget sometimes. 4. Ride is much improved. The old ones were definitely weak. -ROb From bens Mon Feb 10 18:18:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ANIbL03126 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:18:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:18:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102318.h1ANIan03122@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Stereo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org forgot to mention. My Merc has an Eclipse unit mounted in the trunk, 8 disk changer mounted vertically. every once in awhile, the right combination of bumps will make it skip, but I consider it to be great and for D90 or other oflks who want vertically mounted, this one is. I'll also plug Rolling Thunder in San Rafael for their work. Definitely not a $100 install, but maybe that's what they would charge to put a replace a deck. cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Mon Feb 10 18:19:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ANJsb03145 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:19:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302102319.h1ANJsA03141@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Stereo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Kerner, Rob wrote: > > If you were replacing the head unit of your stock RR stereo, what would > you be looking at? If it is a RR Classic, beware of the following: The angle the head unit is mounted makes some displays difficult to see, especially in the daytime. The available mounting depth is rather shallow. From bens Mon Feb 10 23:29:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1B4T0S05398 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:29:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:29:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302110429.h1B4T0v05394@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 1997 Range Rover I might buy. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org beware of the air suspension, they tend to leak and expensive to fix cheers, fil >From: James Howard >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" >Subject: 1997 Range Rover I might buy. >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:48:44 -0500 > >There was actually a Range Rover in the local Flagstaff paper this >weekend. This happens once a year. It is a 1997 4.0 SE. I went to >test drive it, and here are my impressions: [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Tue Feb 11 12:00:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BH03811379 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:00:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:00:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302111700.h1BH03111375@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: V8 Oil pressure switch - now injectors Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This 1991 GDE (actually a 1990 with an MA###### VIN) Does not have an oil level sender (I would have seen it when I removed the sump to check the bearings). I cannot find where else that wire goes except the light and the windscreen relay - but, as DG suggests I used yellow electricians tape to mark the wire where I cut it and identified what it is. Now onto the next problem......I think the #8 injector is leaking and has been leaking - the sparkplug is wet (not oily) and has some carbon deposits on it. Remember, this was the cylinder that had 210 psi compression - whereas the rest were within spec at 170-180psi (btw - that is the spec range according to the factory workshop manual). Probably carbon buildup from running too rich. Anyway, the injectors are a mixed bag of all-black and green stripe units. According to the BP web Range Rover parts guide 1990/1991 changed over the type of injectors used - ETC6264 (black) for pre1990 and ERR722 (green stripe) for 1991 on. Hmmmm. I wonder if the blacks are original and previous mechanics swapped in later one.....does it matter? The injectors are identical! But I suspect the EFI unit sends different signals to them. Regardless the "check engine" light came on last night (it did once before - but I cleared the display) when I really romped on the throttle to test the upshift at freeway speed. I need to read the code tonight, but I'm betting it is an O2 sensor saying I am running too rich on the right (even) bank of cylinders. The saga continues. -Mo From bens Tue Feb 11 12:01:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BH1S511406 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:01:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:01:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200302111701.h1BH1S811402@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Gbrovers@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR SHocks replaced with Bilsteins Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 2/10/03 4:07:14 PM, Kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu writes: << 2. It is easy, except for the top nut on the front shocks, becuase the shock spins. In the rear I just put a large wrench on the shock to hold it. That wouldn't work on the front. First I tried my the air rachet, but that just spun the shock too. Then I tried the impact gun. It had enough speed to spin off the nut. >> Heres a tip to make this easier, use a pipe wrench and slip it in between the coils on the coil springs to hold the shock from spinning. Bill GBR From bens Tue Feb 11 14:01:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BJ1RV12105 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:01:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:01:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302111901.h1BJ1Rs12101@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 1997 Range Rover I might buy. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi James -- To answer a few of your questions -- The vehicle is indeed as slow as older models if not slower, but it's deceptive as I have found faster and more effortless A to B times due to being quieter, more relaxing to drive and much easier to hold in a single lane above 50 mph! Also the engine is much smoother and quieter so you can use the upper rev ranges easier, eg leave it in third up to 90 mph etc or when going over the Sierras. Unlike the 3.9, the power band does not kick in til 3,000 rpm but stays there til 5,000. However there is no doubt it could do with an extra 100 HP. You could look for a 4.6 model to make up a small part of the deficit but it really needs a 6.0. Slow shifting into low range is normal, and you have to be stationary. All shifting of the tranny and case is done electrically. The wind noise should not tbe there, maybe the seal on the A pillar is defunct or the door needs adjusting. The sunroof is another potential source of noise if it is not adjusted right. The cracks on the springs probably just indicate age rather than leaks, but if they have not been renewed they are probably about due (even coil springs have to be replaced after a few years if you want to matain ride height). Nowadays you can replace just the rubber bags for about $90 each (British Pacific sells them). The air suspension can cause problems and is expensive to fix. However if you are choosing between a 4.0 and a LWB, the latter has more frequent air suspension problems, as Land Rover was just learning on it. Especially, it is much more prone to give up and lower itself to the bump stops at the first sign of trouble. Good luck in whatever you decide Cheers John James Howard wrote: >There was actually a Range Rover in the local Flagstaff paper this >weekend. This happens once a year. It is a 1997 4.0 SE. I went to >test drive it, and here are my impressions: > >It is almost as slow as my 1989 Range Rover. The engine seems to have >more power, and it revs to a little more that 5000 rpm before it shifts. > Mine shifts at 4000. The extra power is offset by the greater weight, >I presume. > [ 32 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 11 14:58:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BJwrj12477 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:58:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:58:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302111958.h1BJwqB12472@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: V8 Oil pressure switch - now injectors Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Morgan, You can take your injectors to a Bosch Diesel service center and have them checked for flow. They disassemble and clean the internal filter then check flow against the correct rate. At 160K, mine were shot. They were out of spec. by around 15%. 7% is the worst case that's still acceptable. (Seems kinda high to me) If you need new ones, they have the best prices by FAR. Only guy close is RPi, in England. It was only $35 to check them - (you're cost may vary.) Where do you live and I'll give you the nearest service center, if you're interested. eric >>> MHANNAFORD@ShastaCollege.edu 02/11/03 09:00AM >>> This 1991 GDE (actually a 1990 with an MA###### VIN) Does not have an oil level sender (I would have seen it when I removed the sump to check the bearings). I cannot find where else that wire goes except the light and the windscreen relay - but, as DG suggests I used yellow electricians tape to mark the wire where I cut it and identified what it is. Now onto the next problem......I think the #8 injector is leaking and has been leaking - the sparkplug is wet (not oily) and has some carbon deposits on it. Remember, this was the cylinder that had 210 psi compression - whereas the rest were within spec at 170-180psi (btw - that is the spec range according to the factory workshop manual). Probably carbon buildup from running too rich. Anyway, the injectors are a mixed bag of all-black and green stripe units. According to the BP web Range Rover parts guide 1990/1991 changed over the type of injectors used - ETC6264 (black) for pre1990 and ERR722 (green stripe) for 1991 on. Hmmmm. I wonder if the blacks are original and previous mechanics swapped in later one.....does it matter? The injectors are identical! But I suspect the EFI unit sends different signals to them. Regardless the "check engine" light came on last night (it did once before - but I cleared the display) when I really romped on the throttle to test the upshift at freeway speed. I need to read the code tonight, but I'm betting it is an O2 sensor saying I am running too rich on the right (even) bank of cylinders. The saga continues. -Mo From bens Tue Feb 11 15:09:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BK9LX12542 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:09:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:09:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112009.h1BK9LQ12538@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Help-need picture of actual wiring connections on RR alt Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone out there willing to email me a jpeg photo of the back of their classic RR alternator with connections in place? Three months ago I disconnected it at the start of my 4.2 swap odyssey. Now, it is the only thing that I can not confidently re-connect. I get the two ring terminal connections easy enough, but I have two white wires coming out of the harness (not alt) one with a male spade conn and one with a female spade conn (one actually comes out of the other) and a note to myself that it should connect to a blue wire. The two suppressors have blue wires but at this point they are connected to spade connectors on the back of the alt. I suspect that I may have connected one of the suppressor spade connectors to the back of the alt in an effort to keep wires out of the way. According to the shop manual the suppressor on the left (viewed from back of alt) is the positive suppressor and it kinda looks like this is the blue wire I should connect to. Anyway, any and all advice and direction will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Tom Durango 88 RR with finger on ignition switch! From bens Tue Feb 11 15:32:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BKWuJ12745 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:32:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:32:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112032.h1BKWuL12741@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Winch Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know many of you talked about buying winch rope, but did this ever happen. I still need a winch cable and was looking at the masterpull.com page. $233 is a little pricey, and I would want an extension, but was hoping someone actually has done this. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 11 15:36:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BKaY612778 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:36:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:36:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112036.h1BKaY612774@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Help-need picture of actual wiring connections on RR alt Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Tom, e-mail me at home tonight hipine@worldnet.att.net after 6 if you still need it and I'll snap a pic of the alt. on Cheryl's truck for you. Why not switch to a Delco as part of this whole deal? Cheaper in the long run. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 11 15:51:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BKpJ012869 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:51:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:51:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112051.h1BKpJi12865@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, my Disco is currently sat in the Sun car park next to the first brand new customer Unimog in the US, and it is hyooooge. It is considerably bigger than the older Unimogs. Pictures to follow as soon as we get our ragginfragginshmagin webserver back up and running. Bruce From bens Tue Feb 11 16:01:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BL1Qe12967 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:01:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:01:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112101.h1BL1Q912963@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Winch Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Maybe check these guys, it's where I'll be going when I take the plunge for synthetic line: http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 11 18:12:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1BNCPe13664 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302112312.h1BNCPE13660@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Isaac Fain To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Winch Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org check your local commercial fishery supply stores - i bought 3/8's Amsteel for 1.18/ft a couple of years ago, and had them do marine grade loops and rope work for $15 an end. the 3/8's gray is rated for 14,400lbs min. breaking strength, as I recall; you don't need the blue necessarily. cheers, isaac / seattle --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > Maybe check these guys, it's where I'll be going when I take the plunge for > synthetic line: > http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm > > -Dave G. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 11 21:36:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C2avF14744 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:36:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:36:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120236.h1C2avG14740@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Help-need picture of actual wiring connections on RR alt Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, If you still need the pic tomorrow let me know. I can zap one to you pretty easily. Michael _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Tue Feb 11 21:44:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C2i2C14784 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:44:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:44:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120244.h1C2i2914780@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Re: 1997 Range Rover I might buy. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I can't decide if I want a RRII, or if I want a good Classic LWB. Well, FWIW, as someone who works on both I'd never by a RRII. Jeremy P.S. Yes the air springs are headed to the dumpster. From bens Tue Feb 11 21:51:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C2pxi14856 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:51:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:51:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120251.h1C2pxe14852@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "lindab" To: Subject: sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 16 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" This made me laugh today: yellow d90 in Berkeley, license plate reading = "MR FART." Anyone want to claim it? From bens Tue Feb 11 22:08:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C38MA14944 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:08:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:08:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120308.h1C38LZ14940@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...Picked up a copy of Brit Car Magazine today: in it there's a pic of a Rover P3 (I think) sitting on the lawn at Palo Alto last year...there's a Disco XD sitting next to it. ...The honerable Mr. Shukait, I presume? Charles - still moving crap... ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 11 23:26:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C4QdV15479 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:26:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:26:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120426.h1C4Qda15475@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James Howard wrote: >There was actually a Range Rover in the local Flagstaff paper >this weekend. This happens once a year. It is a 1997 4.0 SE. Take a look at the eBay sold vehicles to get an idea of values. The value of the Range Rover P38 models have been in a free fall since the new Range Rover came out last year. I'm seeing most older (pre 1998) 4.0 models that are pushing 100K selling for close to $10K. If the air bags are cracked you will need new ones soon. It will probably cost twice as much to keep a 4.0 on the road than a LWB since many repairs require a testbook and most parts cost a lot more. My mechanic Philippe laughed when he heard I bought the 4.6 and told me he sold his 4.6 and bought another Classic since he couldn't afford to keep buying all the expensive P38 Range Rover parts (he spent over $3K in parts at his wholesale price in 6 months)... Kevin From bens Wed Feb 12 00:16:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C5G6U17103 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:16:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:16:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120516.h1C5G6s17099@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: Mendo List Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Take a look at the eBay sold vehicles to get an idea of values. The value > of the Range Rover P38 models have been in a free fall since the new Range > Rover came out last year. I'm seeing most older (pre 1998) 4.0 models that > are pushing 100K selling for close to $10K. If the air bags are cracked you Every once in awhile, I think about a Rangie Classic, doing something like Mo, actually using it for dogs and guns, pulling up to the pheasant club. Haven't seen any other Rovers, out there, just mine. But what's a P38, besides a wwII fighter? cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Wed Feb 12 02:19:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C7JIF17717 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:19:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:19:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120719.h1C7JHq17713@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "T&S Bennett" To: Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Any suggestions how we can simply open the driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the outbuildings were razed to the ground during the massive January 18 firestorm here. We saved the 88s and the 109 was kept doused with spray and foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? (And are we correct in figuring we'll be more easily able to sort the ignition key loss once we've opened the vehicle?) I know from previous losses with the 88 Ute that some of our old Mini Minor and Riley keys fit various parts, in that good ol' British fashion. However, begging and borrowing keys from classic BMC owners seems daunting. Theodore Ted and Solange 66 88 Plus 35 S2A Bronze Ute;70 S2A 109 Limestone SafSW; 77 S3 88 Green HT Ute apg@bigfoot.com.au One De Graaff Pl, Canberra_ ACT 2611_AUSTRALIA From bens Wed Feb 12 02:50:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C7o9t17841 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:50:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:50:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120750.h1C7o8T17834@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ted, Presuming your keys were the originals - as were the locks, the ignition switch should have the key code stamped in it: with a pair of binocs, you may be able to read it from outside the vehicle (presuming the doors are locked!). Any decent Land Rover shop should be able to tell you where you can have them duplicated, if they can't do it for you. (a locksmith can do it provided they have the key code book - and the blanks, cutter, etc.) The original keys should have consisted of only one key for all locks, though somebody could have changed this for you. Again - one key should work all locks unless door latches - or the ignition switch - have been changed. It's also possible that the door lock will have the key code stamped on it, though I've never seen this on a Land Rover before. Other than that - break a window: it's flat glass, and easily replaced...:( Good try on using other keys: the ignition key for my diesel 109 also fits a certain Jaguar D-Type race car! If no Land Rover shops nearby have the key codes or the cutter, try Noel Anderson at Sportscar Spares, in Girraween, at 2-9631-9279, and tell him I sent you - he's a friend of mine: he may have one of these key kits. Note: it may be cheaper to simply replace the door latches, rather than to have a locksmith come out. Charles On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:19:17 -0500 "T&S Bennett" writes: > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were > melted > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when > the > outbuildings were razed to the ground during the massive January 18 > firestorm here. We saved the 88s and the 109 was kept doused with > spray and [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 12 02:50:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1C7o9d17845 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:50:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:50:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302120750.h1C7o9k17840@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, P38 is the factory designation for the second generation bodystyle, as SD1 was to the "new" (1976) Rover 3500 saloon that replaced the P6/P6B (Rover 3500 saloon) of the late 60's/early 70's. Charles On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:16:06 -0500 john hess writes: > > But what's a P38, besides a wwII fighter? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 12 09:56:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CEuM020222 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:56:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:56:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121456.h1CEuMG20218@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > does anyone have an alternative? Why not unbolt the hinges? > (And are we correct in figuring we'll be more easily able to sort the > ignition key loss once we've opened the vehicle?) Most LR locks require the key in place before the barrel comes out. But it is a lot cheaper to take the lock to the lock smith. If a new key is too expensive you should be able to purchase a new set of lock barrels all set for the same key from a LR parts place. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Wed Feb 12 09:59:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CExL620295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:59:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:59:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121459.h1CExLV20291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Other than that - break a window: it's flat glass, and easily > replaced...:( It is a series rig for gosh sakes. Hinges outside the door? Bolt heads on top of the door hinges? From bens Wed Feb 12 10:07:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CF79420383 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:07:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:07:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121507.h1CF79S20379@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Why not unbolt the hinges?..." What a great idea! Just pull the two hinge pivot bolts and you're done, if they're the early type hinges, or like TAW says, if it's worst case and they're the later flat hinges, just un-bolt from the body. Captured nuts should stay in place if they're not too rusty. In the latter case, it'll take some time to re-align the door, but in the former, you won't even need to worry about that! Good on ya, TAW! I won't even ask if it's the voice of experience.... :^) -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 12 10:52:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CFqJ920727 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:52:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:52:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121552.h1CFqJs20723@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ah. So we have classic rangies, p38s and the NEW shark gilled series 2 rangies? On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 11:50 PM, Charles R Irvin wrote: > > John, > > P38 is the factory designation for the second generation bodystyle, as > SD1 was to the "new" (1976) Rover 3500 saloon that replaced the P6/P6B > (Rover 3500 saloon) of the late 60's/early 70's. > > Charles John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Wed Feb 12 11:27:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGR6c20978 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:27:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:27:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121627.h1CGR6220974@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 2:50 AM -0500 2/12/03, Charles R Irvin wrote: >etc.) The original keys should have consisted of only one key for all >locks, though somebody could have changed this for you. Again - one key >should work all locks unless door latches - or the ignition switch - have >been changed. It's also possible that the door lock will have the key >code stamped on it, though I've never seen this on a Land Rover before. I suspect this is not true. I bought my 69 SIIa 88 new and from the factory it had three unique separate keys/tumblers, one for the ignition, one for the driver's door and one for the back door. The passenger door did not have a key lock. All the late SIIa LRs (all 88s) I saw in the US were the same. I doubt they did it much differently for the OZ market. OTOH, the locks are easily picked and the doors can be removed at the hinges, or as Charles suggests, the glass is fairly cheap and easy to replace. Gerry *** There are 10 kinds of people; those who understand binary and those who don't. From bens Wed Feb 12 11:30:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGUD321037 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:30:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:30:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121630.h1CGUDC21033@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yup: there are production codes for the other two, I just don't know what they are. Charles On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:52:19 -0500 John Hess writes: > > ah. So we have classic rangies, p38s and the NEW shark gilled > series 2 > rangies? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 12 11:30:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGUFq21051 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:30:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121630.h1CGUFp21047@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey...I was tired! Charles On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:59:21 -0500 TeriAnn Wakeman writes: > > > Other than that - break a window: it's flat glass, and easily > > replaced...:( > > It is a series rig for gosh sakes. Hinges outside the door? Bolt > heads on top of the door hinges? > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 12 11:32:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGWAL21094 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:32:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:32:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121632.h1CGWAg21090@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: LRNA car cover for the D110?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know if LRNA ever made/offered a car cover for the NAS D110? I have a chance to purchase one from someone I met sight-unseen but am sceptical it's really for the D110. I can't imagine LRNA really made anything to fit the size of the NAS D110, what with it's roll cage and rack! jpipes From bens Wed Feb 12 11:43:20 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGhKm21205 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:43:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:43:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121643.h1CGhKQ21201@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin Kelly wrote: > It will probably cost twice as much to keep a 4.0 > on the road than a LWB since many repairs require a testbook and most parts > cost a lot more. You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. Seems like you ought to be able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. From bens Wed Feb 12 11:45:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CGjjt21238 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:45:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:45:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121645.h1CGjja21234@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org T&S Bennett wrote: >... >(And are we correct in figuring we'll be more easily able to sort the >ignition key loss once we've opened the vehicle?) > Pull the ignition and take it to a locksmith. My local localsmith charged about $8 to find/cut a key to fit. Frank From bens Wed Feb 12 12:00:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CH0dP21323 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:00:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:00:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121700.h1CH0dQ21319@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Frank, Along these lines, My wife's 91 Seville STS has the complete computer(s) on board. By pressing the right buttons on the dash panel Drivers Information Center also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! Of course I won't use him ever again. Bob B At 08:43 AM 2/12/2003, Franklin wrote: >You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety >computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. Seems like you ought to be >able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that >costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. From bens Wed Feb 12 12:15:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHF1a21424 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121715.h1CHF0J21417@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Any British car FS series Key should fit. I used to have an MG whose boot ky would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. You will be surprised at how many will open it. Kind regards, Mark T&S Bennett wrote: > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the > outbuildings were razed to the ground during the massive January 18 > firestorm here. We saved the 88s and the 109 was kept doused with spray and > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 12 12:19:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHJrq21456 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121719.h1CHJq121452@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Ian Gregory" To: Subject: RE: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If you have a post 96 then a cheap OBDII scanner goes a long way to helping you do that, not as good as Testbook, Rovacom, Autologic, etc. of course but it helps. Mine runs from my laptop and cost $140, does all OBDII interface standards. Not much use on a 95 or earlier though. Ian > You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a > propriety > computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. Seems like you > ought to be > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the > Rover that > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 12 12:23:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHNDu21494 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:23:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:23:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121723.h1CHNDC21490@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. Cheers, Blair (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) From bens Wed Feb 12 12:27:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHRI021558 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121727.h1CHRIs21554@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... When I got my Gillian, the door locks were not marked with the key code, however the same key worked on all locks - even the ignition. Gillian came from the U.K. by way of South Africa. Charles On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:27:06 -0500 "G. Mugele" writes: > > > I suspect this is not true. I bought my 69 SIIa 88 new and from the > > factory it had three unique separate keys/tumblers, one for the > ignition, one for the driver's door and one for the back door. The > passenger door did not have a key lock. All the late SIIa LRs (all > 88s) I saw in the US were the same. I doubt they did it much > differently for the OZ market. [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Wed Feb 12 12:49:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHnXd21683 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:49:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:49:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121749.h1CHnXg21679@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Indiana came with no keys at all. I thought I'd grab the numbers of the locks and call BP for new keys, but there are none. Mille has them so I'm not sure why Indiana doesn't. Could it be they've been replaced with after market cores? My plan is to drive her off a cliff and hope the rear door pops open, (kidding). I'll take the door off and remove the lock assembly and bring the ignition and the door locks to a locksmith. Any idea if my lock cores are after market? Thanks as always, you're good folk! Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Reece List Digest Version Dormobile Owner Register 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Feb 12 12:53:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CHrjO21719 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:53:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:53:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121753.h1CHrjL21715@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org An 8' garage door should work fine for a truck. Might even fit one with a roof rack but measure carefully before attempting the fit. Both my 88 and 109 with 235/16s and parabolic springs fit through 7' doors though I did have to adjust opener so it pulled the door all the way up. Problem with fitting an 8' door is having the room for the header beam. Depending on your house design, might have to raise the roof by a foot ot two all around. Shouldn't cost more than a few tens of thousands dollars to do that. What's the snow load on one of those plastic covered shelters? Costco has them for around $200 and look like a good solution for a garage. They are blossoming all around here. Seems most people have their garages so stuffed with junk that the car is orphaned to the driveway. Aloha Peter O. --- Blair Peterson wrote: > > Jason, > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho > have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives > under one. > > Cheers, > Blair [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 12 13:10:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIA3121835 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:10:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:10:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121810.h1CIA3k21831@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New Defender for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone want to buy my newly imported legal registerable (except CA) Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks to spare on a new 110!! :-) Kind regards, Mark Pilkington Blair Peterson wrote: > Jason, > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) From bens Wed Feb 12 13:11:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIBg221874 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121811.h1CIBg421870@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Does anyone have a brochure of a the 1967 Land-Rover line up? I'd like to make a copy or buy it from you for a deal I'm trying to put together. I have a brochure of the 1963 line up in color that's really cool if someone wants to check it out or trade. Thanks! Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Reece List Digest Version Dormobile Owner Register 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" "There's more PC than Macs, there's also more roaches that people, but shear numbers don't denote a higher form of life. Everyone's lining up to jump off the bridge are you?" From bens Wed Feb 12 13:15:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIFuc21914 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:15:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:15:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121815.h1CIFus21910@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Ebay Series I Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone notice this incredible '51 on Ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat egory=6296 From bens Wed Feb 12 13:20:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIKb821965 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121820.h1CIKab21961@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....most people have their garages so stuffed with junk that the car is orphaned to the driveway...." Guilty as charged. Garage is for motorcycles and non-running cars only. :^) -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 12 13:37:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIbxD22054 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:37:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:37:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121837.h1CIbxV22050@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > By pressing the right buttons on the dash panel Drivers Information Center > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > Of course I won't use him ever again. From bens Wed Feb 12 13:40:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIeJ722079 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121840.h1CIeJ722075@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ebay Series I Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You don't know how incredible. The truck is essentially brand spanking new. The truck was made from scratch with NOS and new manufactured parts. The owner got the bug to do a resto. and found all the parts were still available. Rather than fixing up someone's POS he just bought a new frame and started hanging NOS parts off it. So you have a brand new 1951 88, probably way better built than any Rover ever rolled out of the factory. The truck has been for sale for awhile. Can't remember the asking price but it was above $30,000. He claims he's losing money at anything less than $50,000 Aloha Peter O. > Anyone notice this incredible '51 on Ebay? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 12 13:49:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CInnG22151 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:49:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:49:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121849.h1CInnJ22147@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ebay Series I Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200302121815.h1CIFus21910@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Anyone notice this incredible '51 on Ebay? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". Ben From bens Wed Feb 12 13:51:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CIpAl22208 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:51:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:51:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121851.h1CIpAt22204@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ebay Series I Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200302121840.h1CIeJ722075@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > The truck has been for sale for awhile. Can't > remember the asking price but it was above $30,000. > He claims he's losing money at anything less than > $50,000 Which is why restorations rarely are profit making. Ben From bens Wed Feb 12 14:03:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CJ3AR22436 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:03:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:03:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121903.h1CJ39L22432@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Plastic and Tape (off topic sorry) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Here's a better and cheaper idea than large quantities of plastic tarp and duct tape you'll need to protect yourself from a biological or chemical attack. We can get clear plastic garbage bags and duct tape them around our necks! This way we'll be mobile and won't be stuck in the house all day. Here's hoping our current administration takes me up on my idea. And now for the legal disclaimer: Please note that this is was a joke, never put a plastic bag over your head and duct tape it around your neck, YOU WILL SUFFOCATE AND DIE. As someone that has been through NBC (Nuclear, Biological & Chemical) training in the Army and Air Force I really can't believe our government told us to go buy plastic tarps and duct tape. This is so wrong, on so many levels, I can't believe they said this... My plastic tarp is keeping Indiana dry in the rain. I really hope they were kidding. I really hope folks aren't working on sealing up a room with plastic. If someone does a really good job they might suffocate themselves and their kids, this would be a real tragedy. Most people have enough common sense, but others are going to get hurt. Cheers, Keith Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Reece List Digest Version Dormobile Owner Register 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Feb 12 14:15:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CJFAa22567 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:15:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:15:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302121915.h1CJFAR22563@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Joe Ward To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Plastic and Tape (off topic sorry) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 40 lines filtered. ] In case of nuclear attack: Remove all sharp objects from your pockets, Put your head between your knees, And KYAGB. Wasn't that what the gov recommended at the beginning of the cold war? Joe From bens Wed Feb 12 15:50:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CKoGO23339 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:50:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:50:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302122050.h1CKoG123335@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Young To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James Howard wrote: > You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety > computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. Seems like you ought to be > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at the dealer is simply a laptop running a touchscreen interface. I've connected my laptop to my Disco II and read standard OBDII data, but none of the special Land Rover stuff, of course. I believe what one really needs is the Testbook CD that the dealer has. Shouldn't be too hard to burn a copy of it, as well. John Young From bens Wed Feb 12 16:05:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CL5RP23478 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:05:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:05:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302122105.h1CL5QS23474@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Dormobile Elsan Chemical Toilet Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I'm looking for the original toilet that was an option in my Land-Rover Dormobile. I found Elsan's website in the UK: http://www.elsan.co.uk/ but it's very poor with every link to info broken. I'd like to check with everyone on the list to see if you have the following information: Note: I placed an ad on LRX.com with a picture of the complete toilet or you can check out John Hess or TeriAnn Wakeman's websites to see it in greater detail: TeriAnn Wakeman: http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/G_DormobileRovers.htm (scroll down and you'll see it) John Hess: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/dormobile_features/cabinets.html (scroll down to the bottom) 1. Does anyone have one for sale? 2. Do you know anyone, who has one, that would sell it? 3. I'll pay a finders fee of $50 USD, it has to be complete and in semi good condition. There has to be a Dormobile in the UK sitting in a field with a Elsan Chemical Toilet waiting to be found. 4. Is there a person on the list that could find the address and telephone number for Elsan in the UK for me, maybe Elsan has an old one sitting around? Thank you very much, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Reece List Digest Version Dormobile Owner Register 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Feb 12 16:07:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CL7e223515 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302122107.h1CL7eM23510@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well I feel it is wasted in a Cadillac because how many Cad owners will even care about DIY? They usually just go to the dealer. Of course I really like having it. I even used it when a cam sensor went bad. Also when I knocked a vac hose off the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier to diagnose. This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. Bob B At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > >Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > > By pressing the right buttons on the dash panel Drivers Information Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 12 16:07:41 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CL7fc23529 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200302122107.h1CL7fk23525@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Geeze, I wonder if the testbook CD is available on EBAY yet? Everything else is. Bob B At 12:50 PM 2/12/2003, you wrote: >James Howard wrote: > > > You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety > > computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. Seems like you ought to be > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 12 16:27:58 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1CLRwR23639 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:27:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302122127.h1CLRwP23635@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A rather humorous website about this can be found at http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Testbook.htm Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > Geeze, > I wonder if the testbook CD is available on EBAY yet? > Everything else is. > > Bob B > > At 12:50 PM 2/12/2003, you wrote: > > [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 12 19:25:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D0P9N24701 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:25:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:25:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130025.h1D0P9a24697@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo Subject: shop for radiator repair Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] Hi, all, Does anyone have any recommendation on radiator shops in Bay Area, preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. Charles Phu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day From bens Wed Feb 12 21:13:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D2DcY25241 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:13:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:13:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130213.h1D2DbH25237@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: radiator shop Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 27 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Alois on Divisidero, just past Fell. They do a great job on Series = radiators. British Motors takes all of thier radiators there. Good luck. From bens Wed Feb 12 21:34:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D2YPn25401 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:34:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:34:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130234.h1D2YP025397@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: shop for radiator repair Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org radiatorland! They do good work, adn there should be one near you. I have used them exclusively for years. Paul --- charles phu wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] > [ 7 lines filtered. ] > > > Hi, all, > > Does anyone have any recommendation on radiator shops in [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 12 21:49:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D2nuj25475 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:49:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:49:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130249.h1D2ntT25471@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James wrote, "You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. " I got a laugh out of that. If you only new. You're assuming that the proprietary computer is efficient. Half the time you're better off guessing. A tenth of the time it actually induces faults in the system. A quarter of the time it just won't communicate at all. What a piece of shit. Jeremy From bens Wed Feb 12 22:17:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D3HJ925587 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:17:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:17:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130317.h1D3HJW25583@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Range Rover Code Names Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John wrote: >But what's a P38, besides a wwII fighter? The second generation Range Rover was designed at Solihull in building "P38A". On the CSO list we used to be able to post about "Old/Classic" Range Rovers and "New/Current" Range Rovers, but now that there is a third model that has taken over the "New/Current" name we have been using "P38" or "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing to do with a building... Kevin From bens Wed Feb 12 23:37:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D4bgQ26104 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130437.h1D4bgt26100@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter Ogilvie wrote: >Seems most people have their garages so stuffed with junk that the car is >orphaned to the driveway. > > Hey! I resemble that remark! The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. C From bens Wed Feb 12 23:40:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D4e6G26130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:40:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:40:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130440.h1D4e5p26126@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Land Rovers on PBS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Saw a promo today for an African wildlife documentary called "The Leopards of Yala". It's premiering on PBS April 20. The filmmakers are jaunting around in a Bronze Green 109 soft top. Looks pretty cool, plenty of shots of the Rover in the promo. Set those VCRs... Mo From bens Thu Feb 13 00:35:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D5ZV127746 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:35:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:35:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130535.h1D5ZUV27742@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Pam Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, That was my XD in the picture and it was me, the Honorable MRS. Shukait! Mr. had his Series truck next to me. Sounds like he didn't get in the picture! As the kids say...too bad, so sad! I will have to get a copy of the magazine. > Picked up a copy of Brit Car Magazine today: in it there's a pic of a > Rover P3 (I think) sitting on the lawn at Palo Alto last > year...there's a > Disco XD sitting next to it. > > ...The honerable Mr. Shukait, I presume? > > Charles - still moving crap... Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce List Digest Version 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" From bens Thu Feb 13 00:44:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D5inx27919 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:44:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:44:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130544.h1D5inC27915@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover Code Names Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Personally I ignore all of the traditional naming schemes. I simply am sticking with the traditional LR naming strategy of adding a I, II, III, etc...to the name. RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be catching on. Michael >From: "Kevin Kelly" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "Mendo List" >Subject: Range Rover Code Names >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:17:19 -0500 > >John wrote: > > >But what's a P38, besides a wwII fighter? [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Thu Feb 13 01:25:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1D6PF528159 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:25:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:25:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302130625.h1D6PFE28155@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Detroit Electrac? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone heard anything about this beast? Seems rather interesting - operates normally as a limited slip diff, full-lock can be turned on through a 12V switch. Assuming (hate that word!) it works, seems like it would be pretty ideal - substantially improved traction with very little side-effects under most circumstances then if you get really stuck, hit the button to get full lock. Have found a few sites on the web that mention it, but no real reviews. One such is: http://www.tellico4x4.com/axle/electrac.htm Shannon From bens Thu Feb 13 09:17:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DEH7B31012 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:17:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:17:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131417.h1DEH6r31008@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....What a piece....' Gee Jer, tell us how you really feel... :^))) Long day today? -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 13 10:43:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DFhFB31776 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:43:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:43:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131543.h1DFhFB31772@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 1967 Land Rover Brochures Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I;ve got a red, one page Land Rover piece of paper that mentions each model and I've got a multipage brochure that is only about the the 109 (publication 705). On the back it lists Land Rover publications 704, 706, and 707 (regular, Station Wagon and forward control models, respectively). I also have a 6 cylinder brochure (not NADA). cheers, On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 10:11 AM, shukait@mac.com wrote: > > All, > > Does anyone have a brochure of a the 1967 Land-Rover line up? I'd like > to make a copy or buy it from you for a deal I'm trying to put > together. I have a brochure of the 1963 line up in color that's really > cool if someone wants to check it out or trade. > > Thanks! [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Thu Feb 13 10:55:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DFtN131869 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131555.h1DFtNJ31865@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Land Rovers on PBS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "I Dreamed Of Africa" has been on Bravo recently also.... Cheers, Gerry From bens Thu Feb 13 13:07:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DI78h32637 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:07:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131807.h1DI78x32633@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No. A garage is what you keep two D-90's in so they aren't wet inside after it rains. Bruce Christopher Dow wrote: > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. From bens Thu Feb 13 13:35:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DIZVM00410 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:35:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:35:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131835.h1DIZVw00406@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was wondering about that. Once I parked my D-90 over night at the Oakland Airport, came home after a rainstorm to find the passenger front mud mat completely filled with about 1/4 inch standing water, but the windows were closed, the air vents were closed, the sun roof was closed, the seats were dry, etc. It was very mysterious! Rovers: "Water leaks in while the oil leaks out." Randy At 13:07 13-02-03 -0500, Mendo_Recce digest: wrote: >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:07:08 -0500 >From: "Bruce R. Bonar" >Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 > >No. A garage is what you keep two D-90's in so they aren't wet inside after >it rains. > >Bruce > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 13:54:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DIsEt00592 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:54:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:54:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131854.h1DIsD900588@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org on the desert trip, I spoke to Jason about a leak he had. Seems there is a seal at the bottom of the air vent on the top(!) of the wing. Water drains down the air vent, past the seal and into the floor. Apparently, the seal can look good and leak. Amazingly, this feature is missing from series trucks! > Once I parked my D-90 over night at the Oakland Airport, came home after a > rainstorm to find the passenger front mud mat completely filled with about > 1/4 inch standing water, but the windows were closed, the air vents were > closed, the sun roof was closed, the seats were dry, etc. > john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Thu Feb 13 13:55:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DItSa00620 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:55:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:55:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131855.h1DItRv00616@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Skywagons! (was: S2A 109 keys) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark, I read yr post about keys, which mentioned Cessnas, then saw yr email address, then remembered you live in Placerville, then thought about all the Trade-A-Plane ads in which I lusted after what I consider must be the flying 109, a C-185. Are you coming to Mendo (I hope)? What could be better than a conversation around the campfire that toggles between Rovers and Skywagons? Zack and I have done it before, but it was even more arcane: 88s with No-Stuk and Luscomes (or some other taildragger). Cheers, Blair From bens Thu Feb 13 14:17:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DJHR200748 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:17:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:17:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131917.h1DJHQR00744@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Land Rovers on PBS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] Recently (not very, actually) a footage has been seen on National Geographic channel about the guy, which I forgot his name, who is a professor of Paloentology from Chicago and also who found the super croc with their LRs in mid Africa not long ago. In the footage, they have three D110s and lots of close shots on 110s and interactions between the crew and their D110s. Another one on NG recently too describes a family of four or five including two or three kids having a mission of some sort, in 80s, I believe, in Africa. It also tells lots of interactions between this Caucasian family, native people, and their D110. Pretty interesting. Charles --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day From bens Thu Feb 13 14:22:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DJMT900786 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:22:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:22:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302131922.h1DJMTJ00782@minbar.fourfold.org> From: charles phu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: shop for radiator repair Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 5 lines filtered. ] Thank you both for the input, Dan and Paul. Charles --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day From bens Thu Feb 13 15:01:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DK1qO01035 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:01:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:01:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132001.h1DK1q301031@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bruce Grove wrote: > > Pictures to follow as soon as we get our ragginfragginshmagin webserver > back up and running. > since we haven't sorted the webserver, here's some yahooified pics of the new Mog... http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/paddleyay/lst?.dir=/unimog&.view=t Cheers, Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 15:07:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DK7ZI01076 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:07:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:07:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132007.h1DK7ZH01072@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org john hess wrote: > > on the desert trip, I spoke to Jason about a leak he had. Seems there is > a seal at the bottom of the air vent on the top(!) of the wing. Water > drains down the air vent, past the seal and into the floor. Apparently, > the seal can look good and leak. > It's not uncommon to have this on old Volkswagen combi's and the source is usually the windscreen rubber, even though it looks fine.. > Amazingly, this feature is missing from series trucks! > On the other hand I discovered I could leave the back sunroof on the Disco open during the last major storm and come back to find it completely dry inside, which is just as mysterious, you'll be pleased to know it does leak oil though :-) Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 15:17:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DKHHI01166 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:17:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:17:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132017.h1DKHHQ01162@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bruce Grove wrote: > > Bruce Grove wrote: > > > > Pictures to follow as soon as we get our ragginfragginshmagin webserver > > back up and running. > > > > since we haven't sorted the webserver, here's some yahooified > pics of the new Mog... [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and again with the link fixed so people can actually see it... http://photos.yahoo.com/paddleyay/ sorry, Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 15:28:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DKSmi01265 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:28:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:28:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132028.h1DKSmD01261@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Unimog, full size Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org and for full size pics thanks to Nicholas http://nbccwi.com/pics/index.cgi/unimog/ From bens Thu Feb 13 15:45:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DKjVv01363 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:45:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:45:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132045.h1DKjU101359@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John said > Amazingly, this feature is missing from series trucks! Not missing from my series truck!!! -Rob From bens Thu Feb 13 16:09:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DL9Ma01539 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:09:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:09:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132109.h1DL9L101535@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ah yes... i have the same feature in my D90 also, although it was soft top originally, i added a fiber and this feature came with it, in the soft top mode i thought the water on the driver side floor was part of the truck itself when it rains so i never bothered, i am still not sure where the water is coming from when it rains hard, btw the passenger side does not have this feature cheers, fil >From: john hess >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Wet D-90s >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:54:13 -0500 > >on the desert trip, I spoke to Jason about a leak he had. Seems there is >a seal at the bottom of the air vent on the top(!) of the wing. Water >drains down the air vent, past the seal and into the floor. Apparently, [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Thu Feb 13 16:17:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DLHU101630 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:17:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:17:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132117.h1DLHUd01626@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Joe M's seats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe what seats do you have in your 109? Do you like them? I am seriously thinking about replacing Regents seats. His current aftermarket Cobra seats are great off road, but don't give me enough lower back support, and can be a pain around town. -Rob From bens Thu Feb 13 16:44:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DLi0U01909 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:44:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:43:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132143.h1DLhxa01905@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Joe M's seats Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 16 lines filtered. ] He has Defender seats. You will not be able to recline them!! Mehdi for Joe From bens Thu Feb 13 16:46:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DLkEV01939 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:46:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:46:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132146.h1DLkD601935@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Skywagons! (was: S2A 109 keys) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blair, I will come, I just have to know when and where. I have a nice Series IIa that I want to drive a bit. I like beer, campfires, British cars, planes and muddy tracks. So does my wife. How do we find out about Mendo? Kind regards, Mark Blair Peterson wrote: > Mark, > > I read yr post about keys, which mentioned Cessnas, then saw yr email address, then remembered you live in Placerville, then thought about all the Trade-A-Plane ads in which I lusted after what I consider must be the flying 109, a C-185. Are you coming to Mendo (I hope)? What could be better than a conversation around the campfire that toggles between Rovers and Skywagons? > > Zack and I have done it before, but it was even more arcane: 88s with No-Stuk and Luscomes (or some other taildragger). > > Cheers, > Blair From bens Thu Feb 13 18:04:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DN4nK02354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:04:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:04:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132304.h1DN4mj02350@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: BP Deal of the Day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org 94-97 Disco 1 owners, BP has a set of 3 wiper blades for only 17 smackers. Mine are toast so I ordered a set. Cheers, Keith From bens Thu Feb 13 18:16:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNGgs02418 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:16:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:16:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132316.h1DNGgD02414@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I was wondering about that. > Once I parked my D-90 over night at the Oakland Airport, came home > after a > rainstorm to find the passenger front mud mat completely filled with > about > 1/4 inch standing water, Golly and I have been thinking about upgrading to Defender door seals. > Rovers: "Water leaks in while the oil leaks out." Now you know one of the reasons I do not bolt my floor panels down. It lets the water flow right back out. >> No. A garage is what you keep two D-90's in so they aren't wet >> inside after >> it rains. Never having lived in a house with a functional garage I was wondering what their use might be. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Thu Feb 13 18:30:24 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNUOu02510 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:30:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:30:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132330.h1DNUO902506@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm not sure if this is the same leak, but I had a continual problem with rain coming in at me from the top left corner driver's side (and the passenger's side did not leak). I kept thinking it was the side gutter or the window seal but it was the very front of the top gutter. Rovers Accessories put some caulking up there and I haven't had it leak since. Nancy On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:09 PM, Fil F. wrote: > > ah yes... i have the same feature in my D90 also, although it was soft > top > originally, i added a fiber and this feature came with it, in the soft > top > mode i thought the water on the driver side floor was part of the truck > itself when it rains so i never bothered, i am still not sure where the > water is coming from when it rains hard, btw the passenger side does > not [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:33:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNXJv02528 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132333.h1DNXIP02524@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:33:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNXT902543 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132333.h1DNXSq02539@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:33:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNXeO02558 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132333.h1DNXdP02554@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:36:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNanY02587 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:36:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:36:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132336.h1DNam902583@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:37:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNb1o02602 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:37:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:37:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132337.h1DNb1402598@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:38:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNcHn02622 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:38:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:38:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132338.h1DNcG902618@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mark you should sell the how to bring in a d119 for a $1,000 a crack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 18:53:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1DNrCr02700 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:53:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:53:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302132353.h1DNrBS02696@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "National 4X4" To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Has anybody got a damaged or mechanically poor Range Rover, looking for 1988/95 have D90/110 chassis and running gear to swap or cash either way . Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendo_Recce digest:" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #976 > > Mendo_Recce digest: Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 976 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:15:00 -0500 > From: Mark Pilkington > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ky > would fit all the Cessna's we have in stock and even start the engines of most!! > Try a few other keys if it is a single blade FS series Key that you have lost. > You will be surprised at how many will open it. > Kind regards, > Mark > > T&S Bennett wrote: > > > Any suggestions how we can simply open the > > driver's or rear door of our 70 109 SW? The keys - both sets were melted > > beyond recognition and were lost along with a lot of our stuff when the [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] and > > foam. Now, however, beyond going the expensive route of bringing in a > > locksmith (first inquiries suggested the locksmith would want to drill the > > door and barrel out and that he'd then need to get new locks and keys from a > > supplier!) does anyone have an alternative? > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:52 -0500 > From: "Ian Gregory" > Subject: RE: New Range Rover > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:18 -0500 > From: Charles R Irvin > Subject: Re: S2A 109 keys > > Aaaahhhhhhh, but there's always the one add truck... > [ 106 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Epsom Green TD5 Defender 110? She's a beauty, but she has to be $58,000 > because of all the federalisation costs and EPA, DoT conformity papers etc etc etc. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it if anyone has a few bucks > to spare on a new 110!! :-) > Kind regards, > Mark Pilkington > > Blair Peterson wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > > > Cheers, > > Blair > > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:11:42 -0500 > From: shukait@mac.com > Subject: 1967 Land Rover Brochures > > All, > [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > egory=6296 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:36 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: LRNA cover for D110 > > "....most people have [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > > cooling fans, And watch the oxygen sensors output while running. I used > > this knowledge to keep a smog station from cheating me by telling me we > > have a sluggish O2 sensor. I merely keyed in the tests and showed him the > > things in action. He backpedaled and said Wow! my tester must be failing., > > Come back tomorrow to finish the test after I get it fixed! > > Of course I won't use him ever again. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:40:19 -0500 > From: Peter Ogilvie > Subject: Re: Ebay Series I > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2403351497&cat > > egory=6296 > > It's nice and all, but $20,000 for an opening bid (and less than > reserve) is a bit steep. Especially in this economy. > > I'll have to keep looking for my dream 1948 or 1949 80". > > Ben > [ 160 additional quoted lines pruned. ] off > the egr and then soon had errors pointing to the egr. This made it easier > to diagnose. > This would be most useful for the average guy in a chevy or pontiac or ford. > > Bob B > > At 10:37 AM 2/12/2003, James wrote: > > > >You would think "The World's Most Travelled Vehicles" would have an aid > >such as this to help you in the middle of Lower Slovovia. > > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Center > > > also known as the "DIC"(in the book), I can display error codes, change > > > specs if necessary, and run many diagnostics. For example start and stop > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:41 -0500 > From: Bob & Sue Bernard > Subject: Re: New Range Rover > > Geeze, [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] be > > > able to buy a box that connects between your laptop and the Rover that > > > costs a few hundred bucks. I know you can for Hondas and Toyotas. > > > >No special hardware required, AFAIK - it's all in the software (aside > >from the serial cable to connect to the OBD port). The Testbook at > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > ------------------------------ > [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] preferably around Penninsula and SF area? I am trying to get sort out the radiator of my 109. The needle of the water temp tends to run high close to the red zone when driving fast long enough on highway. Thanks. > > Charles Phu > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? [ 81 additional quoted lines pruned. ] or > "P38A" to refer to the 1995-2002 second generation/MkII Range Rovers. The > new (BMW Powered) Range Rover is also know as the L322, but L322 has nothing > to do with a building... > > Kevin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:37:42 -0500 > From: Christopher Dow > Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 [ 65 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I, > II, III, etc...to the name. > > RR Series I (which I do call a Classic from time to time), RR Series II > (P38A) and RR Series III (whateveryamaycallit). I figure that since it's > worked for the older trucks (until Defender, which I still sometimes call > Series IV), and the Discovery, it'll work just fine with the Range Rovers. > > But...my naming convention is just a personal thing, it doesn't seem to be > catching on. [ 114 additional quoted lines pruned. ] after > it rains. > > Bruce > > Christopher Dow wrote: > > > The garage is for the tools you use to work on the cars in the driveway. > > Oh, yeah, and for e-type roadsters. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 19:18:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E0I9v02844 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:18:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:18:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140018.h1E0I9O02840@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: RE: Unimog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bruce is that YOUR new baby? Holysmokesthatissostinkincool!!! WOW. I want a ride in that thing! Mo From bens Thu Feb 13 19:27:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E0RUD02895 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:27:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:27:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140027.h1E0RUT02891@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bruce > Well, my Disco is currently sat in the Sun car park next to the > first brand new customer Unimog in the US, and it is hyooooge. It > is considerably bigger than the older Unimogs. My friend Gene at work has a 1970 416 DOKA (Double cab) Unimog. He's having problems getting insurance for is as it's rated over one ton. Farmers won't insure anything over 1 ton, they told him to get commercial insurance. Do you know the guy with the new Mog? Can you ask what insurance provider he's using? Does any one have any good ideas for getting non commercial coverage on it? What's the rating on the 101 and are they hard to insure. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce List Digest Version Dormobile Owner Register 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1969 Land Rover Series IIA ExMoD 109 Regular "Millie" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Thu Feb 13 19:36:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E0ahM02942 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:36:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:36:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140036.h1E0agU02938@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans!!! That thing is huge!! (10 different dirty jokes just popped into my head but I'll let them pass...) I would love to see one of the new mogs up close and since I'm here in LA LA land, the land of lots of cash and silicone, I'm sure I'll see some studio dimwit driving one around because the guy in the next space has a Hummer.... RW On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Grove wrote: > > > > Bruce Grove wrote: >> >> Pictures to follow as soon as we get our ragginfragginshmagin >> webserver >> back up and running. >> [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 19:41:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E0fcY02983 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:41:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:41:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140041.h1E0fcG02979@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Unimog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org mpatrykus wrote: > > Bruce is that YOUR new baby? Holysmokesthatissostinkincool!!! Sadly no, it's a friend of mine's, he's the guy I bought the Disco from. My Disco has a license plate holder that says "My other truck is a Unimog" which I never got round to taking off. Now he's got this, as well as a 1950's Swiss army Unimog I can give it back to him and he can put it on one or other of them :-) > WOW. I want a ride in that thing! > Me too, not for people with vertigo though :-) Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 19:43:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E0hxr03002 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:43:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:43:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140043.h1E0hxI02998@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org shukait@mac.com wrote: > > My friend Gene at work has a 1970 416 DOKA (Double cab) Unimog. He's > having problems getting insurance for is as it's rated over one ton. > Farmers won't insure anything over 1 ton, they told him to get > commercial insurance. Do you know the guy with the new Mog? Can you > ask what insurance provider he's using? Does any one have any good > ideas for getting non commercial coverage on it? What's the rating on > the 101 and are they hard to insure. > Walks down corridor, silence ensues, returns to desk State Farm, but yes it's insured as a commercial vehicle, but you don't need a CDL to drive it because it's under 27,000lbs or whatever the limit is :-) Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 20:02:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E12ri03097 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:02:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:02:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140102.h1E12r203093@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Joe Ward To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 29 lines filtered. ] Does it come in a "Station Wagon" model? And speaking of the anti-suv backlash, I noticed someone cleverly defaced the big Hummer billboard with a "D". They did a good job too, you can barely tell the letter isn't original. Joe From bens Thu Feb 13 20:46:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E1ken03417 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:46:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:46:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140146.h1E1ket03413@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting, OHMYGOD!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe Ward wrote: > Does it come in a "Station Wagon" model? > I think you can park a station wagon in the back and just put the kids in it... > And speaking of the anti-suv backlash, I noticed someone cleverly defaced > the big Hummer billboard with a "D". They did a good job too, you can barely > tell the letter isn't original. > In fact you oculd probably park a Hummer in the back :-) Bruce From bens Thu Feb 13 22:01:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E31dx03954 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:01:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:01:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140301.h1E31dL03950@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Subject: RE: Detroit Electrac? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Shannon- They are just starting to ship (I think the end of Jan). They use the Torsen-type limited slip - no clutches! (similar to the Hum-Vee, Audi Quatro, etc.). Made by Detroit Locker but only for a few axles right now. They have followed them pretty close in all the American 4wd mags. Later, Kelly Minnick > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:25:15 -0500 > From: Shannon Holland > Subject: Detroit Electrac? > > Anyone heard anything about this beast? Seems rather interesting - > operates normally as a limited slip diff, full-lock can be turned on > through a 12V switch. Assuming (hate that word!) it works, seems like > it would be pretty ideal - substantially improved traction with very > little side-effects under most circumstances then if you get really [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 13 22:03:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E33uP03973 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:03:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:03:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140303.h1E33uw03969@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Cc: Subject: Radiator Repair Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles wrote: >Does anyone have any recommendation on radiator shops >in Bay Area, preferably around Peninsula and SF area? Try A-1 Radiator in San Mateo at 317 South Norfolk just east of 101 at the 3rd Avenue exit 650-347-0731. Ask for the owner Ray Esposto and tell them that Jim Fatooh's nephew Kevin told you about them (My Uncle Jim is good friends with Ray). Kevin Kelly From bens Thu Feb 13 22:24:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E3Oek04105 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:24:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:24:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140324.h1E3Oe304101@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Randy Katz wrote: >I was wondering about that. >Once I parked my D-90 over night at the Oakland Airport, came home after a >rainstorm to find the passenger front mud mat completely filled with about >1/4 inch standing water, but the windows were closed, the air vents were >closed, the sun roof was closed, the seats were dry, etc. > > IIRC, you have a Station Wagon. I, too, had this problem in Guildenstern the 110. It was alleviated when door latch adjustments resulted in v. tight seals for all doors concerned. I now have no water leaking though the door seals making puddles on the floor mats. I do, however, have a leak where the roll cage goes through the roof just above the passenger front seat. Oh yeah, and I'm leaking coolant if I turn the heater lever to hot, but have a new core waiting to go into G this weekend. Nothing like nice dry weekend weather for working out in the driveway! C From bens Fri Feb 14 02:05:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E75DZ06470 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:05:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:05:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140705.h1E75Dl06466@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: Wet D-90s Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org D90 Soft tops also leak from where the canvas top meets the top front corner of the door top (could I have worked in one more instance of the word, "top"). Anyhoo, the water runs off the top around the rounded corner of the canvas near the front snap and then drips onto the seat and floor. The leak can be especially aggressive if the truck is parked on a slight incline. I always keep something in the truck to wipe the wet seat. on 2/13/03 10:54 AM, john hess at jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us wrote: > > > on the desert trip, I spoke to Jason about a leak he had. Seems there is > a seal at the bottom of the air vent on the top(!) of the wing. Water > drains down the air vent, past the seal and into the floor. Apparently, > the seal can look good and leak. > > Amazingly, this feature is missing from series trucks! > [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 14 03:25:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1E8PSe06900 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:25:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:25:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200302140825.h1E8PSP06895@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Elsan chemical toilet Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 21 lines filtered. ] Keith Shukait writes: > 4. Is there a person on the list that could find the address and > telephone number for Elsan in the UK for me, maybe Elsan has an old one > sitting around? > Keith: Try this link, perhaps this company can help as they seem to list company contacts. http://www.kellysearch.com/company-82204342.html Karen Sindir From bens Fri Feb 14 11:40:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EGeY709483 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:40:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:40:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141640.h1EGeYW09479@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey gang, I have a presentation to give next month in front of a large group and I'm trying to decide between two options. 1. Getting slides made of all the digital files I want to show, and using a traditional slide projector. 2. Getting the slides I want to show scanned (most of them are already), using all of the digital files that currently exist and use some kind of presentation software (powerpoint???) and an LCD projector. I have absolutely no experience with either powerpoint or an LCD projector. I know there are a lot of techhies in this group, so I thought I'd toss it out there. Anyone that can help would be tremendously appreciated! Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From bens Fri Feb 14 12:20:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EHKUE09725 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:20:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141720.h1EHKTv09721@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Rose, Randy" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] Michael For an electronic presentation, PowerPoint is the usual, but I have also seen Acrobat used for detailed technical slides. By a large group, if you mean 50 or more, try to use a projector of at least 3000 lumens. Unfortunately, rental for bright projectors can be expensive, so beg, borrow if you can. For your slides to look their best, set your computer's screen resolution to match the native resolution of the projector. That's generally 1024x768 for a larger projector, 800x600 for small ones. If possible, find out the projector's specs ahead of time. The small portables that are around 1000 lumens and 800x600 wont' be dazzling, but come to think of it, they will probably be on par with an incandescent slide projector with a 300 watt bulb. Good luck! Randy Rose California Institute of Technology Audio Visual Services (626)395-3840 rsrose@caltech.edu From bens Fri Feb 14 13:05:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EI53C09928 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141805.h1EI53W09924@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org my vote is for a digital solution. I have carried zip disks and cds to meeting to give talks to groups of ~100 (Gordon conference) or ~200 (eyeball meeting). There is no comparison between carrying a carosel of slides, or a couple disks. that said, I have used power point, very simple, slide to slide to slide. I know that the slides can be made to add points, or show movies, but I have found simple to work fine. I have never had to carry a laptop and projector, those have been provided. but we have a projector in our department confernece room, and i'm kinda impressed that it plugs into PC or mac laptops and shows the picture on the screen. I'm pretty sure everyone around here uses powerpoint, but now apple has keynote and I might try that. the profs here are adopting a completely digital solution, getting lecture slides digitized and giving lectures by computer. I think the future will be digital for most things and since you've been snapping digital pictures, might think about making the switch? cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Fri Feb 14 13:14:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EIEXo10198 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:14:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:14:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141814.h1EIEWA10194@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 35 lines filtered. ] They now have USB memory stick. I bought 256MB for $80 and 512 mb for $170 at work. You walk in to the meeting, insert you memory stick in and start your presentation. No driver necessary if running 2000 or XP. Mehdi From bens Fri Feb 14 13:19:50 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EIJoj10227 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141819.h1EIJol10223@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow! I love the internet. Specifically, this list. I knew a few people would know what I needed, but I didn't expect such overwhelming immidiate response. Very cool. Ok, so powerpoint it is. I have the laptop already, and I can scan the remainder of the slides I need (thanks for the offer Medhi). I have a Nikon scanner that works very well. So, now the question remains, what type of projector is good? As part of my trips I'll be taking clients on, I want to have a portfolio presentation in the evenings. I want my clients to bring their work to show the group, talk about what they do, ask questions, get advice, etc....I had planned on using my slide projector and telling them to bring a carousel of slides, but now I'm starting to think I might change that tactic and make the switch. Can an LCD projector packed in a Pelican case survive trip after trip over roads like we had on Mojave? How much is this thing going to cost me? How much is powerpoint? How many questions do I have to ask before you guys realize that I don't know squat about this stuff? Thanks again. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Fri Feb 14 13:19:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EIJrS10242 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141819.h1EIJrN10238@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi what brand stick did you buy for $170? Is it USB2.0? -Rob From bens Fri Feb 14 13:34:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EIYcH10325 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:34:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:34:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141834.h1EIYcK10321@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Joe Ward To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 35 lines filtered. ] If you don't have your own projector, you may want to go with the slide route. Low tech and the failure points are limited, understandable and maneageable (kind of like an old Land Rover). FWIW I've seen many presentations derailed by inability to get the projector to communicate with the computer, and the presenters were reduced to pushing different combinations of keys over and over again hoping that THIS TIME it would work... If you are thinking of buying your own projector, be warned that they are upwards of $3000. Joe Ward From bens Fri Feb 14 13:58:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EIwCj10599 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:58:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:58:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302141858.h1EIwCU10595@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have had problems in the past with different LCD projectors displaying different colors differently. Also, they frequently do not display things as well as your computer monitor. I think I would try the powerpoint, but take the slides with you just in case. James From bens Fri Feb 14 16:01:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1EL1de11394 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:01:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:01:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302142101.h1EL1dK11390@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All the projector concerns of compatibility and colors, etc, are eliminated if you have your own (as you seem to be talking) and know how to use it. As far as asking folks to bring their own stuff, I think you're still stuck with viewing jpgs from a floppy. Even asking people to bring slides is harder for most folks than just asking for a "picture disk" when they get their snapshots developed. They can drag and drop from there to assemble their own floppy of pictures for the show. Maybe I missed the boat and your "clients" are more sophisticated, and able to bring zip disks with ppt presentations and the like. But if you find yourself a little program that can make a quick "slideshow" rotation of a folder full of JPGs (shareware is out there), it'll be easy for folks to bring a picture disk. With half a dozen clicks, you can have a slideshow type arrangement where they can talk about their own shots. The picture disk files aren't print quality, but they are monitor display quality and should work okay from an LCD projector. -Dave G. From bens Fri Feb 14 18:34:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ENY1R12327 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:34:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302142334.h1ENY0G12323@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No USB1 It has the word media on it. I'll look it up on the PO when I go to work. Mehdi Mehdi what brand stick did you buy for $170? Is it USB2.0? -Rob From bens Fri Feb 14 19:43:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1F0hEd12721 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:43:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:43:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302150043.h1F0hD612717@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Range Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So, I guess it would be better in the long run to get a 16 channel A to D card, plug it in my laptop, and intercept all the signals going to the ECU? Probably a lot cheaper, too. Jeremy Bartlett wrote: > James wrote, > > "You know, my biggest complaint with the Rovers is you need a propriety > computer do efficiently diagnose some parts. " > > I got a laugh out of that. If you only new. You're assuming that the > proprietary computer is efficient. Half the time you're better off > guessing. A tenth of the time it > actually induces faults in the system. A quarter of the time it just [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 14 20:14:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1F1EZ512912 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:14:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:14:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200302150114.h1F1EZL12908@minbar.fourfold.org> From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Elsan chemical toilet Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen, > Try this link, perhaps this company can help as they seem to list > company > contacts. Thanks, I've posted this to DOR and LRO with no response, thanks again for the info. Cheers, Keith From bens Sat Feb 15 02:15:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1F7FTo15725 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:15:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:15:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302150715.h1F7FTt15721@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Detroit Electrac? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > They are just starting to ship (I think the end of Jan). They use the > Torsen-type limited slip - no clutches! In other words, a driver-lockable version of the Tru Trac. If I didn't already have a Tru Trac that I'm about to have installed in the front of Ziggy, I'd be lusting for one of those. For the rear, I think I'd still prefer an open/driver-lockable diff . I don't trust any type of limited-slip in the rear, at least until I've seen one work flawlessly. So far, I haven't. Granny From bens Sat Feb 15 02:28:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1F7SNc15776 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:28:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:28:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302150728.h1F7SM015772@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Detroit Electrac? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Granville Pool wrote: > > > They are just starting to ship (I think the end of > Jan). They use the > > Torsen-type limited slip - no clutches! > > In other words, a driver-lockable version of the Tru > Trac. If I didn't > already have a Tru Trac that I'm about to have installed > in the front of [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Hey Granny! am I reading wrong? You had a Quaif! Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Sat Feb 15 03:01:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1F81SL15920 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:01:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:01:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302150801.h1F81Rg15916@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Powerpoint presentations Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 23 lines filtered. ] Joe Ward writes: > FWIW I've seen many > presentations derailed by inability to get the projector to communicate > with > the computer, and the presenters were reduced to pushing different > combinations of keys over and over again hoping that THIS TIME it would > work... > For really important presentations I bring my own disk or CD in case the preloaded stuff doesn't work and if feeling particularly paranoid, transparency charts. The guiding rule is stuff happens, so have backup. Best of luck, Karen Sindir From bens Sat Feb 15 14:29:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1FJTkH18905 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:29:46 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:29:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302151929.h1FJTk618901@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Detroit Electrac? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That, too. > Hey Granny! am I reading wrong? You had a Quaif! From bens Sat Feb 15 18:45:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1FNjFP19977 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:45:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:45:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302152345.h1FNjEe19973@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 110 Heater Core Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I started smelling coolant in G while the temp control lever was in the "hot" position on the way back from the New Year trailer trip. One day in January, when I got to work, a bunch of coolant spewed out on the tarmac. Things seemed OK while the lever was in the cold position, but I didn't want to risk it, so G sat in the driveway 'til I could be bothered to fix it. That was today. It's a fairly involved job, but doesn't have to be quite so involved as the repair manual states. I'll write it up and put it on my web page. It seems pretty 110-specific, so I don't think it justifies a newsletter article. One thing I did discover, though, is that the solution of placing the temp lever in the cold position does, in fact, work. There's a switch that is contoled by the arm that moves the door between the A/C and heat side of the "black box", and that switch controls an electically-operated valve which regulates water to the heater core. C-with two warm LRs and no foggy windscreens. From bens Sun Feb 16 11:57:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1GGveM25861 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:57:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302161657.h1GGvee25857@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Headlights/DUMMER Billboard Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Last night on the way back from Tahoe in the rain it seemed like every guy with a lifted late model pickup or SUV had either high wattage low beams or the really annoying blue painted fake HID headlights. Someone posted about a "HUMMER" billboard that was converted to a "DUMMER" billboard a while back and I just past one going from 580 to the Bay Bridge. The guys did a great job and the "D" looks like it belongs there. Some people must have a lot of free time when they can leave home and figure out how to get through barb wire to climb a 5 story billboard and modify it in a way that only one in every 10,000 people will even notice... From bens Mon Feb 17 01:37:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1H6bGT31254 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:37:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:37:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302170637.h1H6bGK31250@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Please remind me of the name, address, and telephone number of the place in Oakland that does hot-dip galvanizing. I understand that it's the closest place to me that does it. Thanks in advance, Granny From bens Mon Feb 17 03:51:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1H8pi631851 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:51:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302170851.h1H8pik31847@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Locking diffs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 29 lines filtered. ] Granny writes: > I don't trust any type of limited-slip in the rear, at least until I've seen > one work flawlessly. Yes, it is a pain and can be downright hazardous if you are not prepared for it. I was used to the original Land Rover locker in the rear of my SIIa, but it was very hard to steer around corners in wet conditions as it would cause the entire rear end to sway badly and the noise it made was frightening. The Detroit Locker is a distinct improvement, but causes a shimmy and when it activates it's still a bit disconcerting. BTW I opened up the housing of the old Land Rover locker from the SIIa today to check out the extent of the damage inside. It had a total of 6 spider gears, 4 small ones and two larger pinion types and all had extensive chipping and gouging of the teeth and marks on the pieces enclosing them. Worse still were the 2 spindles (instead of a single one in a regular diff) for the 4 smaller spider gears which both cracked in the middle section. It was a surprise that I was able to drive the truck home, though I admit I had to take corners at about 5 mph or less to avoid puncturing the axle casing with broken gears. The axle splines did not seem affected, though after what I saw I will examine them very closely. Karen Sindir From bens Mon Feb 17 11:04:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HG4QI01545 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:04:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:04:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302171604.h1HG4Qd01541@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: 110 Heater Core Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....One thing I did discover, though, is that the solution of placing the temp lever in the cold position does, in fact, work. There's a switch that is controlled by the arm that moves the door between the A/C and heat side of the "black box", and that switch controls an electrically-operated valve which regulates water to the heater core....." The important thing to remember in general (not 110 specific) is that the valve only stops FLOW through the core. It would take two valves to isolate the core from system PRESSURE. So if you're really worried about it, the best bet is to pop the radiator cap and twist it back to the detents. This'll lower the system pressure significantly and lower the chance of blown components. As long as your coolant is up to snuff, you shouldn't need to worry about boiling over due to the lower pressure. -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 17 12:40:28 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HHeSe02046 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:40:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:40:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302171740.h1HHeNJ02038@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 Heater Core Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ooooh I like it. Physics in action. Never would have though about running the radiator cap that way. tip of the pint glass to you, > the core from system PRESSURE. So if you're really worried about it, > the > best bet is to pop the radiator cap and twist it back to the detents. > This'll lower the system pressure significantly and lower the chance of > blown components. As long as your coolant is up to snuff, you > shouldn't > need to worry about boiling over due to the lower pressure. > > -Dave G. [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Mon Feb 17 16:19:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HLJUJ03062 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:19:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302172119.h1HLJU303058@minbar.fourfold.org> From: craigreece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Granny, It's Pacific Galvanizing, 715-46th Avenue, Oakland, 261-6161. And they're right around the corner from Krug's Coliseum Sandblasting, which is ever so convenient. Craig Granville Pool wrote: > Please remind me of the name, address, and telephone number of the place in > Oakland that does hot-dip galvanizing. I understand that it's the closest > place to me that does it. > > Thanks in advance, > > Granny From bens Mon Feb 17 17:06:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HM6ZH03248 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:06:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:06:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302172206.h1HM6Y303244@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Granny, Craig is so right....and the great folks at Pacific will even take the stuff to the sandblaster. I recommend you inventory all parts, and give the them a copy...so they will pay extra attention to the retrieval of parts.. I had 86 parts done for $95.sandblasting on some totaled $50, and they took care of it....all I had to do is write two checks, count the pieces, and bada bing, bada boom..away I went cheers, d ----- Original Message ----- From: "craigreece" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland > > Granny, > > It's Pacific Galvanizing, 715-46th Avenue, Oakland, 261-6161. And they're > right around the corner from Krug's Coliseum Sandblasting, which is ever so > convenient. > > Craig > > Granville Pool wrote: > > > Please remind me of the name, address, and telephone number of the place in > > Oakland that does hot-dip galvanizing. I understand that it's the closest > > place to me that does it. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Granny > From bens Mon Feb 17 17:16:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HMGQQ03305 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302172216.h1HMGPA03301@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Locking diffs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen wrote: > Yes, it is a pain and can be downright hazardous if you are not prepared for > it. I was used to the original Land Rover locker in the rear of my SIIa, but > it was very hard to steer around corners in wet conditions as it would cause > the entire rear end to sway badly I've had two scary episodes like that, in the wet, with my Dakota 4x4 pickup. On an icy I-90 in Idaho, our Peugeot station wagon swapped ends and crashed into the K-rail. But long before I became aware of the drawbacks on-road, I realized that a rear limited-slip has serious drawbacks off-road. Crossing side-slopes, the rear end wants to walk downhill. Worse than that is trying to climb a steep trail that is out-sloped. The rear end again wants to walk off the edge, defeating its usefulness in helping give traction to climb. I almost ended up in the abyss because of that on more than one occasion in our '66 Scout (Powr Lok LS front & rear). A trail that had always frustrated me because I simply could not climb it in the Scout, I walked right up in my first Land-Rover, a clapped-out Series II 88, with a barely working front axle (stripped splines on the half-shaft due to a cracked drive-piece in an old POS Dual-Matic hub) and really lousy tires. Looking forward to Mendo, Granny From bens Mon Feb 17 17:17:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1HMHMT03314 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:17:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:17:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302172217.h1HMHC303310@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks, Craig! > It's Pacific Galvanizing, 715-46th Avenue, Oakland, 261-6161. And they're > right around the corner from Krug's Coliseum Sandblasting, which is ever so > convenient. From bens Mon Feb 17 19:46:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1I0kmq03933 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:46:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:46:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302180046.h1I0kmq03929@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Granny, (et al.) Is anyone making a galvanizing run anytime soon? One of the hinges on the CrewCab has cracked and I want to get another one sandblasted and galvanized. The eyelet on the lower hinge cracked in two places, so I do need to at least replace it. Getting it galvanized to match the rest would be just the ticket. Anyone??? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bens Mon Feb 17 22:58:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1I3wVA04775 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:58:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:58:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302180358.h1I3wV904771@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org did you catch the wise owl christmas flyer? I got mine in january, but they were doing a swap; your hinge for a "new" galvanized one. $12 each. I was tempted to do all mine, but I have other issues. cheers, On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:46 PM, Polla Slade wrote: > > Granny, (et al.) > > Is anyone making a galvanizing run anytime soon? One of the hinges on > the > CrewCab has cracked and I want to get another one sandblasted and > galvanized. The eyelet on the lower hinge cracked in two places, so I > do > need to at least replace it. Getting it galvanized to match the rest [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Tue Feb 18 00:29:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1I5TnB06426 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:29:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:29:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302180529.h1I5Tmc06422@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Alive! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It's ALIVE! Yes, it true. 15 months after taking delivery of my galvanized frame, Gambrinus took a short cruise up and down Charles Irvin's driveway under it's own power. Many thanks to Charles who solved the mystery of the engine, along with a million other things like painting and wiring.. There may be light at the end of the tunnel after all. RW From bens Tue Feb 18 01:11:35 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1I6BZ607194 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:11:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:11:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200302180611.h1I6BZI07190@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alive! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Since Mo is probably wondering what the problem was: Rule # 1...ALWAYS check everything else before the carb! I had Russ pull the cap off the dizzy to check the points, and found that they were correctly set...while doing this, I could have sworn for a second, that the drive wasn't moving, but looked at it again, and it was. Then, we checked the plug gaps - two of them were a bit tight, and one was pretty badly fouled, so it got cleaned up. Then, I double-checked the position of TDC versus where the rotor was pointing, and it was 180 degrees off! Russ insisted that he and Mo had this positively set, but I showed it to him, then proceeded to loosen the dizzy so that timing advance corrections could be made once everything was set correctly. That was when I noticed..... ...the dizzy wasn't seated into the pinch plate completely, and was hardly making contact with the drive gear inside the block!!!!! I happened to look at the drive again while we were moving the truck in gear, and it wasn't turning, so I grabbed it and was able to spin it freely! Not sure how this happened, but I showed Russ how the dizzy should seat itself, and tightened things down. The drive gear inside the block is in fact 180 degrees off, so it didn't matter that the dizzy was loose - NOTE: I have heard from a few people in the last several years, that depending on which shop manual you use when rebuilding the 2.25 engine, that you can follow the instructions to the letter and still end up with the dizzy drive gear in this position, but never really paid attention to this "urban legend". Anyway, we made up a set of plug wires to fit the existing position on the cap since it's easier than removing the oil filter assembly and playing with that grub screw (had enough of that a year ago with Gillian!), put the old Rochester back on, adjusted a few things on it, and fired her up - no drama at all, and the engine runs great! No coolant leaks, no backfiring, no dieseling when you shut it off, and the temp is even good. Charles On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:29:48 -0500 Russ Wilson writes: > > It's ALIVE! Yes, it true. 15 months after taking delivery of my > galvanized frame, Gambrinus took a short cruise up and down Charles > Irvin's driveway under it's own power. Many thanks to Charles who > solved the mystery of the engine, along with a million other things > like painting and wiring.. There may be light at the end of the > tunnel after all. > > [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 18 13:28:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IISFp11442 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:28:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:28:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302181828.h1IISFU11438@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I. To answer you question, I will be making a run in few weeks. II. Wise Owl is full of it. That is why I stopped using him altogether. I called him right away and he did not have any. He said that he will put my name down and call me. He advertises a handful as if he has got a ton. This has happened with him a few times and I have got parts that were used where they should have been new and used parts in good condition, where they were just about to die. His parabolics squeak just like him. Mehdi -did you catch the wise owl christmas flyer? I got mine in january, but -they were doing a swap; your hinge for a "new" galvanized one. $12 -each. I was tempted to do all mine, but I have other issues. -cheers, From bens Tue Feb 18 13:51:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IIp2411663 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:51:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:51:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302181851.h1IIp1111659@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alive! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Russ, Congrats! Now you need to do all teh last few things and make sure it'll get you to MENDO!!!!!!! We'll be expectin' you! Paul (I'll be there somehow..either by geting Elgie's manifolds finished, or if I sell my brother's synchro adventurewagon this week maybe in the disco with it's new lungs!) ;-) ......hoping! --- Russ Wilson wrote: > > It's ALIVE! Yes, it true. 15 months after taking > delivery of my > galvanized frame, Gambrinus took a short cruise up and > down Charles > Irvin's driveway under it's own power. Many thanks to > Charles who > solved the mystery of the engine, along with a million > other things [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Tue Feb 18 15:16:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IKGL212500 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:16:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:16:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182016.h1IKGKk12496@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org well, I have to say that in the last couple of weeks, I have heard similar criticisms. My dealings with Ray (very small orders, new parts) have always been fine. The other criticisms I heard also concerned the condition of used parts. Thanks for the note, that's the great thing about this list. > > II. Wise Owl is full of it. That is why I stopped using him altogether. I > called him right away and he did not have any. He said that he will put my > name down and call me. He advertises a handful as if he has got a ton. > This has happened with him a few times and I have got parts that were used > where they should have been new and used parts in good condition, where they > were just about to die. > > His parabolics squeak just like him. [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Feb 18 15:40:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IKexP12771 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:40:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:40:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182040.h1IKexN12767@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll second the "feast or famine" nature of dealings with Ray. I always had good luck. Got some real nice front axle shafts and drive flanges for a song. The only problem I had was when he accidentally mailed some MC rebuild kits to Dave Gage instead of me. I guess we're together in his directory. :^) Dave forwarded them to me and all was well though. But I know Pete Hope had some trouble with an unfairly represented used tub or something like that if memory serves. Oh well. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 18 16:12:32 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ILCW512966 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:12:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:12:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182112.h1ILCWw12962@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: Re: LRNA cover for D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks for the info Blair. Thanks also for the offer to BBQ still - we've almost got the 110 issues sorted out now. We've been so busy moving into a new place and with my new job and my younger brother being here that we've hardly had time to do much of anything as of late. We did order the ignition control module though and it should be here this afternoon. I do have a question for you though, you mentioned having the 110 car cover, but never using it. If that's the case, would you consider selling it to Petra and I? We really would like one and would be interested in buying it from you should you want to sell it. Anyway, let me know what you think. Also, should we set up another Emeryville lunch for sometime in the next few weeks? Talk soon, jpipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: LRNA cover for D110 > > Jason, > > Yes, one was made for the truck-- I have one tho have never used it and I think Frank's 110 lives under one. > > Cheers, > Blair > (who's remodel contractor is having fits because I'm insisting on 83" clearance for the garage door--otherwise I WILL start using the car cover) > From bens Tue Feb 18 16:30:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ILUj213129 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:30:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:30:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182130.h1ILUjv13125@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: was Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI, I've bought a few used items from Ray and they were fine. Part of the problem might be that everything is so rusted up there. Bob B At 12:16 PM 2/18/2003, you wrote: >well, I have to say that in the last couple of weeks, I have heard similar >criticisms. My dealings with Ray (very small orders, new parts) have >always been fine. The other criticisms I heard also concerned the >condition of used parts. > >Thanks for the note, that's the great thing about this list. > > > > > II. Wise Owl is full of it. That is why I stopped using him altogether. I [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 18 17:22:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IMMmm13564 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:22:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:22:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182222.h1IMMmW13560@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Corgi series 1 fire engine Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Yesterday I found and bought a Corgi Series 1 86" fire engine at Wally World for all of about $4. Part of some "Fire engine Heroes" series. I got the only one on the wall. Now my kids want to play with it! I won't share. Tom From bens Tue Feb 18 18:03:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1IN3BR13827 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:03:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:03:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182303.h1IN3Bq13823@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR master Cylinder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So while replacing all the vacuum lines I can find to try and fix the cruise control, I had the drivers lower dash panel off replacing the vacuum line that goes to the brake pedal. I noticed the insulation right by the brake pedal where it attaches to the servo is wet. The wetness looks like brake fluid. The boot on the servo has a drip on it. So my assumption is I need a master cylinder, as it is leaking through the servo? Is there any other explanation? I havn't ever had to add brake fluid. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 18 18:44:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1INidY14045 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:44:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:44:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182344.h1INid314041@minbar.fourfold.org> From: leslie dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WAAAAYYYY OT- powerpoint and LCD projectors??? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes, you have truly tapped in to an amazing font of presentation knowledge! I would only add that using PDF is often a better choice than a raw powerpoint format. This is especially true if you use a more recent version of powerpoint to create your presentations than the prensentation computer has istalled. The only issue here is that the resolution can be a bit poorer. So I typcially, create my presentations in my working format (Office XP) then export them in Office 95 and also 'print' them as a PDF(and select for a pre version 5.0 reader). That way I am totally covered. When you create the Office 95 version, you will often lose all of your nifty animations and transitions but if push comes to shove you have a presentation. If you are really really paranoid (and I am) you can always carry overheads in addition to slides, too. This is really an issue in Europe where the slides are fatter and our cheap US slides can get really chewed up in the European slide projectors. Also watch the colors, LCD projectors are usually lighter and so light colors do not show well. The best I've found is yellow text on blue background. Yep, I do this a lot. 8-) leslie Polla Slade wrote: >Hey gang, > >I have a presentation to give next month in front of a large group and I'm >trying to decide between two options. > >1. Getting slides made of all the digital files I want to show, and using a >traditional slide projector. > >2. Getting the slides I want to show scanned (most of them are already), [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 18 18:50:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1INoJA14095 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:50:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:50:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302182350.h1INoJx14091@minbar.fourfold.org> From: leslie dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: NO LR CONTENT-----powdercoating in PA Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone have a favorite place in the south bay ('round PA) for media blasting and powder coating? This is not for the LRs but for some vintage furniture that is threatening to rust away. These are smallish items like a chair, ottoman etc. thanks leslie From bens Tue Feb 18 19:55:24 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J0tOV14455 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:55:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:55:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190055.h1J0tOp14451@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Auto Transmission woes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org List, Upon starting my fresh 4.2 engine, I discovered than my transmission will not engage in any gear (R, D, 1,2,3). When I pulled the old 3.5, the torque converter came out with it as I did not know to unbolt it at the flex plate. Consequently it emptied about half or more of it's ATF contents onto my garage floor. Before starting up the 4.2 I thought it would be a good idea to replace the Auto trans filter as it had not been done in too long a time (60K or so). I drained the ATF from the pan and was then occupied by family stuff and couldn't get back to the job until the next day. So the trans drained all night long. I think the AT pump has lost prime because the ATF fluid level has not changed on the dip stick and I know a lot should be getting into the torque converter. I tried to force it to prime by setting up a drill pump on the return line of the ATF cooler and sending ATF from a quart bottle through the system. ATF started to come out the cooler stub and also from the filler tube, but I still did'nt get anything when I selected gears. My next step is to tow it to a trans shop and have them bail me out, unless someone has a BTDT suggestion to get the old Rover up and running again. Prior to the engine swap the trans was running strong. Help! Suggestions? Tom Durango From bens Tue Feb 18 20:19:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J1JHa14586 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:19:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:19:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190119.h1J1JHh14582@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Auto Transmission woes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No definite answers here but I'd try calling the shops first. Maybe they can tell you something you can do yourself. Call a couple of places. Phone calls are free. You've got a 4x4 joint out there where a fella named Adam something or other used to work. Drove a built up Rangie. Do you know him? Maybe he knows somebody who knows somebody.... Call in some favors if you have to. Hate to have them tell you that you have to pre-fill the converter, meaning pull the trans.... -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 18 21:35:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J2Z3b14958 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:35:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:35:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190235.h1J2Z3N14954@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > > > II. Wise Owl is full of it. That is why I stopped using him altogether. I > > called him right away and he did not have any. He said that he will put my > > name down and call me. He advertises a handful as if he has got a ton. > > This has happened with him a few times and I have got parts that were used > > where they should have been new and used parts in good condition, where they > > were just about to die. > > > > His parabolics squeak just like him. Mehdi, How did the S3 transmission work out, I got that from Wise Owl, I never got to use it ( as you knew ), so I hope it worked out for ya! TomW From bens Tue Feb 18 21:55:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J2tNV15106 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:55:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:55:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190255.h1J2tNt15102@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A thing to keep in mind is what one person considers "used but usable" another person turns his nose up at because there may be a spot of rust visable.. Buying used parts from anyone is a crap shoot. The only way to protect yourself even a bit is to get pictures if possible. I have to say that in my project I've bought a ton of used bits, some from Ray, and have been lucky so far. RW On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 12:16 PM, john hess wrote: > > > well, I have to say that in the last couple of weeks, I have heard > similar > criticisms. My dealings with Ray (very small orders, new parts) have > always been fine. The other criticisms I heard also concerned the > condition of used parts. > > Thanks for the note, that's the great thing about this list. [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 18 22:50:04 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J3o4N15587 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190350.h1J3o4C15583@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org tom, r u back or still in SD fil >From: "Tom Walsh" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:35:03 -0500 > > > > > > > II. Wise Owl is full of it. That is why I stopped using him >altogether. [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Wed Feb 19 00:14:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J5Ebo16784 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:14:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:14:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190514.h1J5Eam16780@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: 110 heater core Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris, Look again at that valve controlling water flow to the heater-- the line coming out of it ain't wire-- but tubing. The valve is vacuum controlled. Cheers, Blair From bens Wed Feb 19 02:38:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J7c2J18098 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:38:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190738.h1J7c1A18094@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: tires... here we go again Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org hi all, looking for the collective suggestion of the list, the tires on the D90 are worn out, i am looking at a new set but i am looking to not to use the stock size, i have stock gear 3.54 and about 2 inch lift(OME HD springs and de-carbon shocks) i am looking at 255/85/16 - a bit skinnier but taller than stock or 285/85/16 - is this too big and heavy, the model i'm looking at are the MT's and the MTR's apologize for the bandwidth fil _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bens Wed Feb 19 02:59:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J7xnW18183 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:59:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:59:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190759.h1J7xmE18179@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: tires... here we go again Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Fil F." wrote: > > > hi all, > > looking for the collective suggestion of the list, the > tires on the D90 are > worn out, i am looking at a new set but i am looking to > not to use the stock > size, i have stock gear 3.54 and about 2 inch lift(OME HD [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Fil, I think those of us with them will all aggree the dunlop mud rovrs are great!!! Why not drive accross town saturday or so andborrow mine to try them on to see? than you can test them somewhere around fremont to see how they feel/sound? There's got to be some good diryt/mud somewhere! ;-) Mine are that wonderfull 255/85/16 and do not feel like they rob any power on either the disco or Elgie! Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 19 03:39:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J8dRS18430 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:39:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:39:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190839.h1J8dRZ18426@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm here waz up :) TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fil F." To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland > > tom, > > r u back or still in SD > > fil > > > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 19 04:41:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1J9fFS18777 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:41:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:41:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302190941.h1J9fFY18773@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: a spin in a Jeep Rubicon. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Was driving by the local Honda/Mercedes dealer today and spotted what looked like a new Rubicon Wrangler. Swung in to take a look and it turned out to be a trade in with only 7,000 miles on the clock. Took it for a spin and was a little surprized by the closed in feeling of the truck. The windshield panel is so high, I couldn't see the front of the truck without leaning way forward. I'm not tall but have a long torso so haven't had a problem seeing out of any other car. The roll up window doors also seem to be higher than a series truck with door tops on. I'd be looking at a way to raise the seat if I owned one. Anyway, won't do any complaining about the lack of forward visibility in a Series with the tire on the hood. It's way better than front viz. in a Jeep. The seats have good bolsters and keep you in place on rock and roll roads way better than series deluxe seats. Ride is smoother than my Series with parabolics though can't get away from the hobby horsing resulting from the short wheelbase. Haven't driven a new Jeep before, but tracking and steering is way better than the CJ7 I drove a while back, no bump steer. Tracks almost as well the Series. Was under impressed by the power of the inline 6. Would not pull my test hill in 5th and floored or nearly floored to do 55 in 4th going up the hill. My 109 will do the hill in forth though it slows to 45mph and has to be floored from bottom to top. To be fair, the air conditioning was on going up the hill so that did rob some power. Believe the tires were 245/75/16 Wrangler MT's and gave better ground clearance than a stock Wrangler. Still no great shakes and don't know whether the truck needs a lift to fit 33" or larger tires. Didn't have a chance to check out the locking differentials. The truck had just been detailed and think my relatively benign test drive gave the salesman a little angst about having to wash the truck, again. In conclusion, would I buy it for $22,000?? If I could find a d90 for $22,000 with 7,000 miles on the clock, no way. With the locking diffs, A/C, and other goodies, it beats the hell out of a high mileage D90 without locking diffs, however. Would probably embarass a D90 unless the Rover had locking diffs, also. Thought you all might want to hear about the latest from the competition. Aloha Peter O. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 19 05:15:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1JAFsG18949 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:15:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:15:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302191015.h1JAFsH18945@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] it is as I got it. Want it back? Mehdi From bens Wed Feb 19 10:58:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1JFwLk20349 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:58:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:58:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302191558.h1JFwKm20345@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: a spin in a Jeep Rubicon. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Pete, Did the Rubicon have lockers both ends? And the center? or is it part time? What kind of lockers are they? I haven't been in one, but there was one outside of work the other day and it looked like just another wrangler with a real shiny winch. Don't be too sure about it whipping up on D90s. In most of the tougher stuff I've been on with both the D90 suspension works much better. Having driven the fully lockable G for a while now, I can say with some confidence, they aren't the answer to everything, or a license for no-brainer driving. The Defender's suspension is pretty darned good out of the box and THAT, IMHO, is where off road capability is really made or broken. Just one man's opinion. -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 19 17:23:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1JMNFp23250 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:23:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302192223.h1JMNFs23246@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes, buying used parts is a crap shoot. Some people don't seem to know the difference between surface rust and corrosion that goes all the way through. Ray sold me a bulkhead that supposedly had a little rust in the foot wells. Actually, the footwells were in pretty good shape. The drip rail was rusted through in a dozen places, the bulkhead face behind the rail did a nice imitation of Swiss cheese and the door posts were holed. Also bought a 109 bed at the same time that turned out to be in much worse condition than the pictures showed. Ray also removed parts from it that he sold separately, unbeknowst to me. Didn't matter that they left gaping holes in the aluminum. The way the pictures were taken, it hid the damage and it was hard to believe that they weren't purposely posed to cover up the damage. What really hurt, though, is earlier Ray had sold a supposedly very good bulkhead to 'Cornflake' that he had promised to me. It's one thing to misrepresent parts but to stick it to a customer in favor of Charles Kellogg, that's unforgivable. In Ray's favor, his new stuff is fine. I just wouldn't buy anything used from him that I haven't seen in person. Also, have been stuck by other used parts sellers, always from the North East. Bought a supposedly rust free breakfast that had most of the lower area rusted away but puttied over. Nothing in the photos that showed the rust, just looked like discoloration in the digitals Specifically queried the seller about rust and was assured there was no rust, yeah right, and his mother is a virgin, also. Shipping charges made it too expensive to ship back. Bought a head from another north east seller that had a major chunk out of the #1 combustion chamber. It was toast. Seller didn't have digital photo capability, wonder why?? He also never answered any of my mail to explain how he could be so dishonest. BTW, He's the one that's advertising on LRX trying to sell an acre of Rover parts. Think his name is Boisvert. There's a lot of misguided folks selling used parts out there, be careful, awfully careful. Aloha Peter O. --- Russ Wilson wrote: > > A thing to keep in mind is what one person considers > "used but usable" > another person turns his nose up at because there > may be a spot of rust > visable.. Buying used parts from anyone is a crap > shoot. The only > way to protect yourself even a bit is to get > pictures if possible. I [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From bens Wed Feb 19 18:36:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1JNaGw23735 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:36:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:36:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302192336.h1JNaGH23731@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > it is as I got it. Want it back? > Mehdi No not at the moment ( unless my transmision sundenly blows up! ) Why haven't you used it yet? TomW From bens Wed Feb 19 18:58:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1JNwLw23947 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:58:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:58:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200302192358.h1JNwKm23943@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: was: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 18 lines filtered. ] I got it to put in my 109 SII temporary with my spare engine, while I restore/rebuild the original to put back. Well the blue 109 is not back together yet and finished, so the yellow rover "OL YELLER" awaits on the side line. There are many sort of nuts and addicts. I have it for cameras and rovers. I am planning to cut one back to moderation soon. The blue 109 and the OL Yeller. Of course, Christine has said I can trade the OL yeller for a Linhof Technorama 617 SIII any day, but I can not bring myself to sell it. It is the 91st left hand drive rover built in factory yellow. Don't ask me when I will restore that, because neither the money or the time is there in the near future. Did that answer your question? From bens Wed Feb 19 19:14:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K0Et024058 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:14:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:14:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200014.h1K0Etf24054@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Think his name is Boisvert. http://shopping.yahoo.com Buy used Rover parts from Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys at your peril. From bens Wed Feb 19 19:15:04 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K0F4w24078 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:15:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:15:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200015.h1K0F3824074@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....I can trade the OL yeller for a Linhof Technorama 617 SIII any day, but I can not bring myself to sell it....." Hee Hee! To say we are a "Land Rover Club" is such a radical over-simplification. The odd statement like that above proves that many of us are alike in so many ways that have nothing to do with Rovers, that in a certain light, we'd all be considered clones. :^))))) -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 19 19:28:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K0SgL24201 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:28:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:28:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200028.h1K0Sgx24197@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Of course, Christine has said I can trade the OL yeller for a Linhof > Technorama 617 SIII any day, but I can not bring myself to sell it. It is > the 91st left hand drive rover built in factory yellow. Don't ask me when > I will restore that, because neither the money or the time is there in the > near future. > > Did that answer your question? > Ah! Repeat after me: My name is ( fill in your name ), I am a Rover addict :) TomW From bens Wed Feb 19 21:02:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K22eA24741 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200202.h1K22ew24737@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >> "....I can trade the OL yeller for a Linhof >> Technorama 617 SIII any day, but I can not bring myself to sell >> it....." > The odd statement like that above proves that many of us are alike in > so > many ways that have nothing to do with Rovers, that in a certain > light, we'd > all be considered clones. :^))))) Not really, we all have differences in opinions. For instance I think a Wisner or better yet a Deardoff fits the personality of a series rig a lot better. A Linhof is more of a coiler owner's kind of camera. I really put a roof rack on the Green Rover as a shooting platform. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Wed Feb 19 22:02:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K32n025030 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:02:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200302.h1K32mq25026@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Now now TeriAnn, I've owned a Wisner, and a Deardorff, both while having leafers *and* coilers. So, that'll throw a fly in the ointment!~ ;) The Linhoff, depending on the year can *definitely* be in character with a series truck. Personally my next camera will probably be a Folmer & Schwing 12x20 (from the 1920's) to go onto my Reis tripod (from the 40's). I'll shoot 'Polaroid's' for it with the Nikon D1x. Hows that for a contradiction. I really liked Dave G's assesment that to just call us a Land Rover Club is way oversimplified, and almost kind of degrading. There is soooooo much more to what we all do than *just* Land Rovers. Reedeming fact is that if it weren't for the LR's, we probably would be complete strangers. :( I'm kind of in line with Medhi. Smitten with Rovers *and* cameras. I've scaled back on the cameras in recent years, now I'm trying to scale back with the Rovers. I have the one 1990 RR I'm still parting out, but it'll be gone quickly. Then, it's on to getting more cameras (the 12x20) and start doing my own platinum and carbon prints (another 19th century process). I keep my feet firmly planted in the digital revolution while at the same time keeping them rooted in the past. Make sense? Michael PS I do need to get in on whomever is making the next galvanizing run. I have to get a lower upper hinge sandblasted and galvanized. >From: TeriAnn Wakeman >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland >Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:02:40 -0500 > > >> "....I can trade the OL yeller for a Linhof > >> Technorama 617 SIII any day, but I can not bring myself to sell > >> it....." [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Thu Feb 20 00:39:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K5de327137 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:39:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:39:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200539.h1K5deb27133@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 110 heater core Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blair Peterson wrote: >Chris, > >Look again at that valve controlling water flow to the heater-- the line coming out of it ain't wire-- but tubing. The valve is vacuum controlled. > > Odd. Mine has a red wire going to it. There may be a vacuum hose, as well, but there's definitely a red wire which goes back to the switch and is actuated by the same lever that moves the flap which controls the aiflow across the heater coils vs. the condenser. C From bens Thu Feb 20 00:59:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K5x7G27247 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:59:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:59:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200559.h1K5x6s27243@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Polla Slade wrote: > I've owned a Wisner, and a Deardorff, both while having > leafers *and* > coilers. So, that'll throw a fly in the ointment!~ ;) > The Linhoff, depending on the year can *definitely* be in > character with a > series truck. hmmmm! I tend to think a Calumet C-1 is right in line with a series rover personally......the D and L cameras are wonderfull, but more art/technological where the calumet is....just like a series... ;-) ....ok, it may weight a little less, but still more than most of my tripods can be happy with...for roverin' a good ol' speed-graphic does the job just fine though! nice and durable, not so ridiculously expensive and fragile either. ;-) > I really liked Dave G's assesment that to just call us a > Land Rover Club is > way oversimplified, and almost kind of degrading. There > is soooooo much > more to what we all do than *just* Land Rovers. > Reedeming fact is that if > it weren't for the LR's, we probably would be complete > strangers. :( I know....it'd be sad to not have met all of you through mendo! Definately glad I joined mendo way back when! ;-0 Paul evolving series and a fuqued-up coiler! ;-0 .....and a boatload of misc obscure cameras to play with __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Feb 20 02:19:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K7JBF27824 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:19:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:19:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200719.h1K7JAw27820@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: tires... here we go again Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org paul, i am considering the 255/85/16 tire size, now i have to deal with the brand, how's Joe and his rangie doing?, are the rover m/t noisy cheers, fil _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From bens Thu Feb 20 02:53:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K7rk928044 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:53:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:53:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200753.h1K7rkL28040@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: tires... here we go again Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Fil F." wrote: > > > paul, > > i am considering the 255/85/16 tire size, now i have to > deal with the brand, > how's Joe and his rangie doing?, are the rover m/t noisy not while sitting in the driveway! ;-( ....but seriously...depends what you are comparing to really. I never concidered them to be loud, but more so than the at's Joe's rangie is on the back burner behind my rovers which are behind the mg's which are behind joe's vanagons(two of which are at my place, so...) ;-( Paul (dang! I want to go play in a rover!) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Feb 20 02:57:40 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K7vem28077 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:57:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200757.h1K7veS28073@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I found myself stuck with the Wisner Technical Field for the "fun" camera and a Mamiya 7 for the "point and shoot"... Sick sick sick! So TerriAnn, when's are we doing a Rover photo trip? Shannon On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 09:59 PM, Paul Archibald wrote: > hmmmm! I tend to think a Calumet C-1 is right in line with > a series rover personally......the D and L cameras are > wonderfull, but more art/technological where the calumet > is....just like a series... ;-) ....ok, it may weight a > little less, but still more than most of my tripods can be > happy with...for roverin' a good ol' speed-graphic does the > job just fine though! nice and durable, not so ridiculously > expensive and fragile either. ;-) From bens Thu Feb 20 03:16:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K8G2h28203 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:16:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:16:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200816.h1K8G1O28199@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Powdercoating on the Peninsula Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Leslie wrote: >Anyone have a favorite place in the south bay ('round PA) >for media blasting and powder coating? Call Warren at Accurate Powder Coating in San Carlos at 650-802-8180. He is near 101 in San Carlos and next door to a media blasting place. I have used him a bunch of times over the past 10 years and he has always done good work at a good price. Kevin From bens Thu Feb 20 04:12:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9C5N28553 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:12:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:12:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200912.h1K9C5228549@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: New Mog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We have a guy on the Mog list who just bought a U500. Check out his rig: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcbrutus/U500/ He took it to Hollister and seemed to have fun with it! As an aside, we're just about done with my son's BMW 2002 engine and then back to my Mog. :) (more important mogs!) Take care, Kelly Minnick From bens Thu Feb 20 04:22:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9M6U28606 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:22:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:22:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200922.h1K9M6U28602@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org -Not really, we all have differences in opinions. For instance I think -a Wisner or better yet a Deardoff fits the personality of a series rig -a lot better. A Linhof is more of a coiler owner's kind of camera. -I really put a roof rack on the Green Rover as a shooting platform. -TeriAnn J. Wakeman For social landscape those cameras are bit too slow for me, but for landscape and still life and portrait they are more becoming. Mehdi From bens Thu Feb 20 04:26:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9Q6H28646 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200926.h1K9Q5i28640@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org -Then, it's on to getting more cameras (the 12x20) and start doing my own -platinum and carbon prints (another 19th century process). I keep my feet -firmly planted in the digital revolution while at the same time keeping them -rooted in the past. Make sense? -Michael I just ordered some chemical for coating my paper and making platinum prints!! And go ahead and send the hinges to me. 521 Talbot Ave Albany CA 94706 From bens Thu Feb 20 04:26:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9Q7I28659 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200926.h1K9Q6w28649@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: New Mog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I should not ask, but how much are they new? Mehdi From bens Thu Feb 20 04:26:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9Q5W28641 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200926.h1K9Q5S28633@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org __when's are we doing a Rover photo trip? --Shannon Can we make it late summer, so my 109 will be ready? Mehdi From bens Thu Feb 20 04:45:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9j7w28740 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:45:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200945.h1K9j7728736@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Auto Transmission woes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Tom The transmission should be self-priming if it's full and the pump is working. If the pump isn't getting fluid, you will hear a distinctive howling noise! Anyhow, did you remove the TC from the flex plate when re-installing the motor, or install it with the engine? It's best to install separate as you are then sure the 'fingers' on the TC are aligned with the pump. This also allows you to put 1 - 2 quarts of fluid into the TC. Also, are you sure the shift cable has not slipped and that you are in fact moving the selector shaft inside the trans? If need be, you can verify this by dropping the pan (I know, not easy and messy...) and moving the lever and then checking inside and see if the selector shaft did indeed move. As I recall, there is also an external pressure tap on the trans so you can measure the pump pressure. This can be done with a mechanical gauge to see where the problem is. Another area to check (if you do drop the pan) is to make sure you didn't leave out the 'O'-ring that seals the pick-up/screen to the valve body. Just some thoughts. Some simple checking could save you big bucks at $65/hr. Take care, Kelly Minnick > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:55:24 -0500 > From: Thomas Joyner > Subject: Auto Transmission woes > > List, > > Upon starting my fresh 4.2 engine, I discovered than my transmission > will not engage in any gear (R, D, 1,2,3). > [ 29 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 20 04:50:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1K9oU828784 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:50:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:50:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302200950.h1K9oTg28780@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: "David Gomes" Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #981 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Dave- Electric lockers at both ends with Torsen limited. 4:1 low range transfer case. No center locker - sigh. I hear you about the fully locked vehicle. I've had my Mog sit there and hop with all fours trying to climb some silly rock/hill. Usually a hill I shouldn't even try to go up! Articulation does help a lot. Now if I could only find a $6K D-90! :)... Well, there are a lot of wrecked RR classics out there and lots of rusted out Series vehicles back East.... Later, Kelly Minnick > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:58:20 -0500 > From: "Gomes, David" > Subject: RE: a spin in a Jeep Rubicon. > > Hey Pete, > > Did the Rubicon have lockers both ends? And the center? or is it part > time? What kind of lockers are they? I haven't been in one, but > there was [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 20 05:30:41 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KAUf028941 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:30:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:30:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201030.h1KAUeq28937@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: 109 For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Saw this ad on LRX. The truck is polished Birmabright. Not a bad price either: Advertisement to SELL; Product: 1964 SERIES IIA; Price: $7,500; (Currency: US Dollars); 1964 Series IIA 109 Wagon All original, 4 cylinder, new tires, installed seat belts that are bolted directly to frame, motor solid and turns over easily. Can email pictures. Serious inquires only. Suzy Holleran. Santa Rosa, California, United States of America - 17 February 2003 From bens Thu Feb 20 10:55:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KFtkV30306 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:55:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201555.h1KFtku30302@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Mog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org kminnick wrote: >http://home.earthlink.net/~mcbrutus/U500/ > > I saw that rig near Moffet on 101 while on my way to work last week. He was northbound and I was southbound. It's pretty cool. C From bens Thu Feb 20 11:06:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KG65M30375 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:06:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:06:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201606.h1KG65g30371@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:02 PM, Polla Slade wrote: > Personally my next camera will probably be a Folmer & Schwing 12x20 > (from > the 1920's) Oh fantasies of making palladium prints you can actually see from farther than an arm's length away. That's one of the problems working with those tiny four inch by five inch negatives. Considering the size of the film it is going to cost a chunk of change to click the shutter. Talking about a chunk of change, I noticed that as of yesterday it would cost me $88 to fill up the Green Rover at my local gas station. Someone is making a heck of a lot of money off a war scare. People complain to the politicians, and the politicians seem to be unable to follow the money and just quote generalizations to calm the sheep...I mean voters. I wonder why that is? TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California twakeman@cruzers.com http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Thu Feb 20 11:08:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KG8Nv30394 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:08:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:08:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201608.h1KG8Nn30390@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....evolving series and a fuqued-up coiler! ;-0 .....and a boatload of misc obscure cameras...." And another thing we have in common....never enough time. Paul's so tied up he didn't even mention motorcycles, kayaks, machine tools, etc.... :^) -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 20 11:26:19 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KGQJH30555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:26:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:26:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201626.h1KGQJS30551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:57 PM, Shannon Holland wrote: > I found myself stuck with the Wisner Technical Field for the "fun" > camera and a Mamiya 7 for the "point and shoot"... Well golly, I too have a Wisner Technical Field for "fun" but a Pentax 67 as my small "point and shoot" I am beginning to wonder if there is anyone on the list shooting smaller than 120 film and where was everyone with real cameras when I lead the red rock photo tour? > So TerriAnn, when's are we doing a Rover photo trip? I need to be able to afford fuel for a trip first. I can see a tour through the four corners are running at least $1000 in fuel and I do not want to take more than 10 vehicles (5 vehicles max/guide) into Canyon de Chilly at a time. It takes about $1000 for a 10 vehicle 3 day 2 night tour of the canyon. But if you get the lighting and exposure right it is worth it. Maybe I should consider it. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California twakeman@cruzers.com http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Thu Feb 20 11:40:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KGexx30686 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:40:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201640.h1KGewU30682@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn writes... >Oh fantasies of making palladium prints you can actually see from >farther than an arm's length away. That's one of the problems working >with those tiny four inch by five inch negatives. We actually made a few platinum prints with 35mm negs to make sure we were coating the paper right and getting the exposures correct. Kind of like a 'test strip'. > >Considering the size of the film it is going to cost a chunk of change >to click the shutter. > Yeah, that's why I have th D1x to pre-visualize the shot. I can't afford to be exposing film if I don't know it's going to be good. In the words of Ron Wisner (creator of wonderful wooden view cameras), "If you're not going to create a masterpiece, don't bother setting up the 12x20". He said that to me last year during a phone conversation regarding his version of the 12x20. It was an interesting perspective. >Talking about a chunk of change, I noticed that as of yesterday it >would cost me $88 to fill up the Green Rover at my local gas station. >Someone is making a heck of a lot of money off a war scare. > Yeah, it's gonna cost a pretty penny to do Death Valley this weekend. Good thing I bought my gas 2 weeks ago when it was cheap! 1.61 seems rather inexpensive now. I wonder how steep fuel will be inside the park! The 40 gallons in the truck and the extra 30 in jerry cans should get me through the weekend. >People complain to the politicians, and the politicians seem to be >unable to follow the money and just quote generalizations to calm the >sheep...I mean voters. I wonder why that is? No comment. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Thu Feb 20 11:42:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KGgMt30704 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:42:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:42:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201642.h1KGgLE30700@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >> __when's are we doing a Rover photo trip? > Can we make it late summer, so my 109 will be ready? Hmmm There is a spot in Bryce I want to have a camera set up at sunset the day before the full moon in September. Camping's real cold (20s or teens), but the picture could be worth the trip. If you like a full moon hanging next to salmon coloured hoodoos side lit at sunset that is. Catching aspens in fall colours is not for the thin blooded. I keep promising myself that I will build an off road capable trailer with a film processing lab inside. I can already process E6 in a motel room on a trip. Add electricity, water and a holding tank to a trailer, build a portable film drying box and one could see how the pictures came out before leaving the area. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Thu Feb 20 12:26:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KHQ3i31035 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:26:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:26:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201726.h1KHQ3N31031@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....build an off road capable trailer with a film processing lab inside..." I'll just bracket. I can buy a lot of film for the cost of that trailer and hauling it around, plus, when the moment's gone, it's gone forever. Of course, I'm not even beginning to think about making dinner menus at 1:1 like Michael. :^) Imagine the neat stuff some poor soul is going to turn up when he searches the archives for a "Galvanizer in Oakland" a year from now.... :^))) -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 20 13:01:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KI16E31344 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:01:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:01:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201801.h1KI15x31340@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'lro@koan.team.net'" Subject: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a couple of bulkheads that need to go. One has had the door-post already replaced and is ready for footwells. I'd like $200 for it and I'll include the footwells for another $50. The other is in better shape but something heavy fell on it and dented the storage shelf. That should be easy to repair. I don't think it needs footwells but honestly don't recall. I'd like $350 for it but that's dependent on the footwells of course. I have one pallet so I can strap one of them down and take it to a shipper for you. From there, it's your cost. If you want to see pictures of either, let me know! If they don't sell here or on LRX, I'll e-bay them in 30-days. Cheers, Gerry Phoenix AZ From bens Thu Feb 20 13:22:06 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KIM6631511 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:22:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:22:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201822.h1KIM6Q31507@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Gerry, Does this mean you finished your restore project? Or Abandoned it??? Cheers, Bob B At 10:01 AM 2/20/2003, you wrote: >I have a couple of bulkheads that need to go. One has had the door-post >already replaced and is ready for footwells. I'd like $200 for it and I'll >include the footwells for another $50. The other is in better shape but >something heavy fell on it and dented the storage shelf. That should be >easy to repair. I don't think it needs footwells but honestly don't >recall. I'd like $350 for it but that's dependent on the footwells of >course. I have one pallet so I can strap one of them down and take it to a >shipper for you. From there, it's your cost. > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 20 13:22:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KIMii31526 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:22:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:22:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201822.h1KIMi731522@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 60 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-10-880439050 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:40 AM, Polla Slade wrote: > We actually made a few platinum prints with 35mm negs to make sure we > were > coating the paper right and getting the exposures correct. Kind of > like a > 'test strip'. You can cheat by purchasing precoated paper from Bostick & Sullivan http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/main/Index.htm > Yeah, that's why I have th D1x to pre-visualize the shot. I can't > afford to > be exposing film if I don't know it's going to be good. 20x24 tri-x at $519 per 25 sheet box is just a tad out of my range unless I know each exposure would be perfect and each image a winner. Lets see, cut the film in half...That comes to $10.38 each time you clicked the shutter. Considering the price and my inability to make a masterpiece each time I trip the shutter, I think I would settle for 4X5 originals, a contact interpositive then a 12X20 negative from the interpositive. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California twakeman@cruzers.com http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 --Apple-Mail-10-880439050 From bens Thu Feb 20 13:33:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KIXMX31608 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201833.h1KIXMv31604@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Does this mean you finished your restore project? Or Abandoned it???..." Oh, C'mon Bob! What resto project is ever really completely finished, or abandoned! :^) Gerry's just tired of looking at those old bulkheads. :^))) -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 20 13:51:05 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KIp5M31769 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:51:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:51:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201851.h1KIp5q31765@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:33 AM 2/20/2003, you wrote: >"...Does this mean you finished your restore project? Or Abandoned it???..." > >Oh, C'mon Bob! What resto project is ever really completely finished, or >abandoned! :^) OOHH!! I figured these were the replacements he bought. Bob B >Gerry's just tired of looking at those old bulkheads. :^))) > >-Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 20 13:54:18 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KIsIE31790 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201854.h1KIsHE31786@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I'll just bracket. It costs me over a dollar to trip the shutter not counting chemistry (Which is WAY cheaper than commercial processing). I do not bracket unless I really think a slight change in exposure will make a real difference and an uncertain as to the correct exposure. And if Michael is spending over $10 to trip the shutter plus chemistry, he is likely to be even less apt to bracket. > I can buy a lot of film for the cost of that trailer and > hauling it around, I think the break even point for me would be between 1000 and 2000 exposures assuming none of the prints get sold. I personally think the cool quotient of an off road mobile E-6 lab would be way high. > plus, when the moment's gone, it's gone forever. Not if you are shooting landscapes. Well mostly not. And there is a big difference between staying in one place and reshooting something the following day and discovering days or weeks later and 1000 miles from the shoot location that you did not get as good a picture as you thought you were going to get. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Thu Feb 20 14:08:16 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KJ8GB31950 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:08:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:08:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201908.h1KJ8FO31946@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Our good friend Bob B writes, "Does this mean you finished your restore project? Or Abandoned it???" Abandoned? NEVER. Just taking my time. :-) And the wife has decided that we can proceed (read: spend mo' money) later this year. Finances has held it up as well as other costs & diversions like motorcycles, ham radio, marriage, new car for the wife, etc, etc, etc. Actually, one of these is the original and the other is one that I picked up from Tucson. Then, as luck always works out, I picked up a "perfect" bulkhead that was fully repaired, primed and ready to go for a song. Actually, Dave G is close to the answer. We have a small two-car garage and just finished installing cabinets down one side of it. That meant moving a lot of items and clearing out the garage. I just don't have room for 3 bulkheads and would rather sell them than ... well...you know. If you're truly bored, you can see before and after pictures at http://photos.yahoo.com/gelam30092 under "Garage". The cabinets weren't expensive and I assembled and installed them myself. I also just wired two more outlets for more light and 'lectricity. (HA, there's one project I actually finished!) Now I can get two cars easily in and out but working in the garage still means parking one car in the street. My neighbor allows me to park in his driveway overnight if necessary. Cheers, Gerry (One more note: I'm planning a ride down to Copper Canyon in Mexico in late Oct. If anyone is interested, let me know. I'll be on the bike but LR's would be welcome also.) From bens Thu Feb 20 14:09:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KJ9cn31973 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:09:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:09:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201909.h1KJ9cK31969@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...the cool quotient of an off road mobile E-6 lab would be way high...." "....there is a big difference between staying in one place and reshooting something the following day and discovering days or weeks later and 1000 miles from the shoot location that you did not get as good a picture as you thought you were going to get...." Totally agreed on both points. Plus there's always the argument for just slowing down. How nice it would be to have it be part of the PLAN to be shooting part of each day, developing another part, adjusting and adapting along the way. Very nice. Too bad stuff like having to make money so we can eat and buy gas has to intrude on that idyllic notion. :^) -Dave G. From bens Thu Feb 20 14:45:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KJjui32262 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:45:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:45:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302201945.h1KJjus32258@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 31 lines filtered. ] That would be a possibility. If you take the back road to come into Zion from Cedar city, it is filled with Aspens. It is a dirt road with great views. Mehdi From bens Thu Feb 20 15:26:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KKQNS32576 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:26:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:26:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202026.h1KKQN532572@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: jeepart Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi All, I have a fiberglass pickup top from an 83 Jeep Scrambler that I want to give away. It should fit a number of years 80 up ? And also fit a Wrangler for the stubby look. I will be in San Francisco monday and tuesday and can bring it. Anyone??? Bob B From bens Thu Feb 20 16:10:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KLACs00564 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:10:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:10:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202110.h1KLAB600559@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: 110 Cover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason and Petra, I think I'll keep the cover for now (it may be used on the 109 if the 110 fits in the garage, or vice versa! Cheers. From bens Thu Feb 20 16:21:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KLLgX00653 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:21:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:21:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202121.h1KLLg500645@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: what/when is Mendo? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark, Been off-line for a while and I think no one answered yr question about Mendo. Get yourself up to Cedar Camp in the Mendocino Nat'l Forest on the weekend of April 25-27 and you can meet alot of folks on this list and see a lot of our Rovers! Trail runs, big campfire, big potluck, etc. Joe Lucas usually posts details/directions closer to the event. Cheers, Blair From bens Thu Feb 20 17:41:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KMfDa01886 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:41:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:41:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202241.h1KMfCo01882@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Alloy wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 20 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone have a set of stock alloy wheels they want to let go real = cheap? ( disco, defender, classic rangie style, doesn't matter ) TomW From bens Thu Feb 20 18:18:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KNIHM02121 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202318.h1KNIHa02117@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: Re: Alloy wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a set of 4 nearly brand new Disco alloys for sale. Contact off list for specifics. How cheap is real cheap? ;) jpipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Walsh" To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Alloy wheels > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 20 lines filtered. ] > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone have a set of stock alloy wheels they want to let go real = > cheap? [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 20 18:43:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1KNh0W02295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:43:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:43:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302202343.h1KNh0N02291@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shane Ballensky To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alloy wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a set of the RRC 3 spoke style I could be persuaded to sell quite easily. Want tires too? >Does anyone have a set of stock alloy wheels they want to let go real = >cheap? >( disco, defender, classic rangie style, doesn't matter ) > >TomW Shane From bens Thu Feb 20 22:46:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L3krX04018 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:46:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:46:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210346.h1L3krA04014@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: 110 heater switch (was core) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris, Squeeze that red wire...then look at the switch actuated by the lever/cable-- pneumatic. If you push the button on the switch you'll hear a faint hiss releasing vacuum. Pretty sure I'm right about this (I can't say that too often on tech subjects on this list!). If I'm wrong, I'll put a Burmese curry turkey sausage on the BBQ for you at Mendo... right next to Jason and Petra's tofu... Cheers, Blair Leica IIIF (series camera) Leica M6 (coiler camera) From bens Thu Feb 20 22:51:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L3pEX04051 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:51:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:51:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210351.h1L3pDA04047@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Alloy wheels... err steel wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK, major brain fart, after getting a few sets replied in my price range a buddy of myne reminded me the alloys won't fit over my GKN torque limters ( which I forgot about! ) So hmmm, whoes got some cheap steel wheels? TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Walsh" To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Alloy wheels > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 20 lines filtered. ] > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone have a set of stock alloy wheels they want to let go real = > cheap? [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 20 23:24:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L4Okg04305 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:24:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:24:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210424.h1L4OkT04301@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alloy wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom Walsh wrote: >8< >Does anyone have a set of stock alloy wheels they want to let go real = >cheap? >( disco, defender, classic rangie style, doesn't matter ) > >TomW > > I have four from a Disco with which you have some familiarity. C From bens Thu Feb 20 23:33:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L4XjF04366 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:33:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:33:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210433.h1L4XjR04362@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Used Wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom W. posted about low price alloy wheels: Take a look at the site below. It seems to always have a lot of used wheels at good prices. http://www.roverconnection.com/swapmeet.html Kevin From bens Thu Feb 20 23:34:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L4Y8A04382 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:34:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:34:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210434.h1L4Y8g04378@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alloy wheels... err steel wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom Walsh wrote: >OK, major brain fart, after getting a few sets replied in my price range a >buddy of myne reminded me the alloys won't fit over my GKN torque limters >( which I forgot about! ) > >So hmmm, whoes got some cheap steel wheels? > > Damn. I've been wanting to shed those alloys for five years! C From bens Fri Feb 21 00:02:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L52ck04728 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:02:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:02:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210502.h1L52cM04724@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: RE:SIIA Bulkheads for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >>Actually, one of these is the original and the other is one that I picked up from Tucson.<< Gerry, did you get that one from Rovers West? That place is a piece of work! Mo From bens Fri Feb 21 00:15:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L5FlX05881 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:15:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:15:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210515.h1L5Fke05877@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Alloy wheels... err steel wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was figuring to hear from you as I thought you still had those rims! I'm running 37 boggers with beadlocks and my 35 on steelies are in storage.... so I have a pair of 34 bfg AT, ko's I took off the F350 ( its a dually now with 35 inch industrial truck tires )... And I fugured a bunch of folks were harboring alloys that I could use... A good idea, but I forgot they won't fit with the torque limiters! Duh! TomW, the guy with really wobbly loud ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Dow" To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Alloy wheels... err steel wheels > > Tom Walsh wrote: > > >OK, major brain fart, after getting a few sets replied in my price range a > >buddy of myne reminded me the alloys won't fit over my GKN torque limters > >( which I forgot about! ) > > > >So hmmm, whoes got some cheap steel wheels? > > > > > Damn. I've been wanting to shed those alloys for five years! > > C [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 21 00:26:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L5Qnx06107 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:26:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:26:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210526.h1L5Qmo06103@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce Subject: (fwd) Re: [lro] SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Someone from the LRO list responding to a cross post. Ben ------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:08:49 -0600 From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: [lro] SIIA bulkheads for sale Hi Gerry, I requested info from work, but sometimes that email glitches. I'm interested in the dented shelf unit. Andy "andylit@covad.net" wrote: > I'm interested. Can you shoot photos of the better one? ------- End of Forwarded Message From bens Fri Feb 21 01:17:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L6Hr406491 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:17:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:17:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210617.h1L6Hq206487@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" wrote: > If you're truly bored, you can see before and after > pictures at > http://photos.yahoo.com/gelam30092 under "Garage". The > cabinets weren't > expensive and I assembled and installed them myself. I > also just wired two > more outlets for more light and 'lectricity. (HA, > there's one project I > actually finished!) Hmmmm! I'm worried gerry! That doesn't look like a series owner's garage!!!! ;-0 more like a BMW owner's! ;-0 Shall I post images of mine to show you what to aim for? ;-)....or to not aim for......someday again, a rover will fit in.....but your's just looks a mite too organized/clean now! ;-) the trip down south on a bike sounds like a good idea! If I have a good working dual-sport again by than, I'll be interested! Paul > (One more note: I'm planning a ride down to Copper > Canyon in Mexico in late > Oct. If anyone is interested, let me know. I'll be on > the bike but LR's > would be welcome also.) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 02:12:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L7CUQ06807 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:12:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:12:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210712.h1L7CUA06803@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #982 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mehdi- I've heard numbers like $125K (up to about $135 - depending on options...). Later, Kelly Minnick > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:26:06 -0500 > From: "Mehdi Saghafi" > Subject: RE: New Mog > > I should not ask, but how much are they new? Mehdi From bens Fri Feb 21 02:21:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L7L7x06852 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:21:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:21:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210721.h1L7L7C06848@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- Wow - lots of discussion on this list! All these fancy cameras makes me feel camera poor! Actually I have more toys that I really can use!. Yes Teri Ann, I have a simple 35mm Nikon. But it can capture people in the most inopportune moments... It's nothing fancy, but seems to take good pictures. I think a Mog radio box would make you a fine mobile dark room (much better than a trailer) and you can set up your tripod on the roof! I remember a year or so ago a large discussion on expensive watches. And then there are those esoteric motorcycles... I guess I live a sheltered life. It's funny how much you can learn from this list. Oh, and the Rover content... I bought a '61 Alfa Giulietta spider that I'm restoring. I just thought Rover parts were expensive! Try buying parts for a vehicle that they only made 12,000 of and 40 some years ago. Shoot, even a R.Rover would be cheap. :) Later, Kelly Minnick From bens Fri Feb 21 03:42:51 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1L8gpf07370 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:42:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:42:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302210842.h1L8goI07366@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Misc ramblings was: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- kminnick wrote: > > Hi guys- > Wow - lots of discussion on this list! All these fancy > cameras makes me feel > camera poor! Actually I have more toys that I really can > use!. Yes Teri Ann, > I have a simple 35mm Nikon. But it can capture people in > the most > inopportune moments... It's nothing fancy, but seems to [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Hey Kelly, don't stress the nikon, or 35mm...Amongst all teh different cameras, I have half a dozen old nikons. I still swear by them(swear at the modern ones...)the rest are just toys to me..... > then there are those esoteric motorcycles... esoteric? ;-) well if you want a non esoteric one, I'm selling my suzuki RL-250! ;-) > I guess I > live a sheltered > life. It's funny how much you can learn from this list. zat's what makes it so wonderfull! ;-) > Oh, and the Rover > content... I bought a '61 Alfa Giulietta spider that I'm > restoring. ooh! cool! Photos? ;-) I just > thought Rover parts were expensive! that's why I now have the two freebee mg midgets instead of my dream alfa...even use the same distributor as the rover! .....well not mine, but you know..... Paul rovers, mg's, murder-syckles, all sorts of cameras....and the nose-piece from an alfa spider waiting for the rest of it to someday appear in the drive! ;-) passed up the '80 spider for $500 last month for the free unmolested '73 midget. I think I made the right choice! and I'll be getting motorcycle type mileage!!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 07:34:04 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LCY4i08326 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:34:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:34:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211234.h1LCY4Y08322@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Yes Teri Ann, > I have a simple 35mm Nikon. But it can capture people in the most > inopportune moments... You know at that time I was hot, tired and the front of my left leg was swollen up from a staff infection I picked up from a skin puncture about 4 days earlier in the Mono lake basin. Just slightly run down and a tiny bit outa sorts. I keep hoping you would trash that image. > I think a Mog radio box would make you a fine mobile dark room (much > better > than a trailer) It probably would as would a radio body 101 or a military Carawagon command vehicle with all the blackout thingies in place. > I bought a '61 Alfa Giulietta spider that I'm restoring. I just > thought Rover parts were expensive! I had a friend once with an Alfa Sprint Speciale. He used to complain about the Porshe 356 owners because they got to drive their cars fast on curvy roads while his was in the shop draining his bank account yet again. Cheerup, you could be paying to restore a Sprint Speciale or an Alfa Montreal TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Fri Feb 21 11:44:41 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LGifm09728 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:44:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:44:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211644.h1LGifJ09724@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: SIIA Bulkheads for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nope. There was a guy in Tucson but isn't associated with RW who had one for sale. To call this bulkhead a piece of art is almost an understatement and it puts the rest of the truck to shame. :-) Our good friend Bob Sharp turned me on to it. And the price was RIGHT. Cheers, Gerry From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale, BMW for sale too. :-) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It's a Brazilian thing I guess. The house is now spotless and almost 100% organized. It's amazing. I love for you to join me on the ride down south. By then, I hope to be on a Suzuki V-Strom. The '01 Dakar is up for sale if your interested in a bike: Here's the description: 2001 F650 Dakar for sale. ~12,500 miles, great condition. Touratech extras: footpegs, dual headlights, handlebar risers, front stainless steel brake hose. Custom Corbin seat, jesse bag mounts (jesse bags not included), rear hyperlights. Full printed repair manual & CD-ROM. Caterpillar cruise control. :- ) I also have all of the old items removed from the bike.... I think. $6400 ono, located in Phoenix AZ. Not-so-recently married & we need a larger bike. I hate like heck to sell this but don't have time to maintain a second bike. Can help deliver if you help with airfare back. :- ) This is the red/white/blue version and runs simply great! I'd start on a round-the-world trip tomorrow on this bike without hesitation if I could! There have been no warranty issues with this bike either. I can send you pictures also upon request. Cheers, Gerry >Hmmmm! >I'm worried gerry! That doesn't look like a series owner's >garage!!!! ;-0 more like a BMW owner's! ;-0 From bens Fri Feb 21 11:52:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LGqca09801 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:52:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:52:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211652.h1LGqcS09797@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: NCRC Newsletter submissions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The next edition of the newsletter should be out shortly, both on the web site and in your local post office. I currently have Zero submissions for the next newsletter, so if you have been thinking about submitting something please get at it. Deadline for the next newsletter is the May 1st. That way if no one submits anything it can be an all Mendo archive. -Rob Kerner NCRC Newsletter bloodhound. From bens Fri Feb 21 13:44:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LIi1B10496 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:44:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:44:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211844.h1LIi0e10492@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: SIIA bulkheads for sale, BMW for sale too. :-) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" wrote: > > It's a Brazilian thing I guess. The house is now > spotless and almost 100% > organized. It's amazing. aha! I forgot about that! Yeah! I have a feeling that is is a big part of my problem with Maria...all teh clutter...oh well....maybe next time I can find womeone willing to help me get it all back organized. Honestly, I really prefer it all neat and organized, but this stuff just happens...it stays organized for a few weeks, than... ;-0 hmmm! regarding the bike? not now unfortunately...still underemployed...I do want a R100 PD someday, but... ...also like the yamaha super teniere....and "lucky strike" Cagiva Elefant but realisticly, the honda xr650L with desert tank and all is really the best for serious dual-sporting... may be my target if ai can find one that is a steal! Paul Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 14:03:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LJ3b310775 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:03:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:03:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211903.h1LJ3bN10771@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #982 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] Outrageous. With that kind of money, I would travel the world with the family. Mehdi From bens Fri Feb 21 14:40:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LJe8g11078 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:40:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211940.h1LJe8I11074@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've noticed that in the last week, my GPS acquisition time has gone from about 3-5 minutes to about 30 seconds. Have any of you noticed a change? C From bens Fri Feb 21 14:48:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LJmmg11156 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:48:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:48:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211948.h1LJmmb11152@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Christopher Dow wrote: > > I've noticed that in the last week, my GPS acquisition > time has gone > from about 3-5 minutes to about 30 seconds. Have any of > you noticed a > change? Yeah! last week or so! I was amazed as the ol' garmin XL45 somtimes really takes a bit to get 'em! Just realized why it may be better......the dang persian gulf area thingie? Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 14:53:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LJrDS11211 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:53:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:53:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302211953.h1LJrDb11207@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul Archibald wrote: >--- Christopher Dow wrote: > > >Yeah! last week or so! I was amazed as the ol' garmin XL45 >somtimes really takes a bit to get 'em! > >Just realized why it may be better......the dang persian >gulf area thingie? > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] That's what I suspect, since the JDAM uses GPS guidance, and probably can't acquire while it's inside a B1/2/52's bomb bay. C From bens Fri Feb 21 15:01:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LK1bk11277 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:01:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200302212001.h1LK1a011273@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:20AM -0800, Paul Archibald wrote: > Yeah! last week or so! I was amazed as the ol' garmin XL45 > somtimes really takes a bit to get 'em! > > Just realized why it may be better......the dang persian > gulf area thingie? Weird. I hadn't noticed, but my gps tends to be on all the time. I would expect the gulf to make things take longer or else accuracy go down if they turn selective availability back on. Shannon From bens Fri Feb 21 15:23:31 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LKNVn11494 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:23:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:23:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200302212023.h1LKNV811490@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Christopher Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Shannon Holland wrote: >Weird. I hadn't noticed, but my gps tends to be on all the time. I would >expect the gulf to make things take longer or else accuracy go down if >they turn selective availability back on. > > In '90-'91, they turned it off because they couldn't get enough mil-spec GPS recievers. For some reaso, I thought dubbya turned SA on as soon as he got in office, but according to USGS, (as of 2/21/2002) it's been off since May, 2000. My qualitative insight into whether SA is off or on is how the bread crumbs line up on my GPS III+ display as I drive over them going back and forth to work. It's pretty much spot on right now, so I drive over the crumbs I left last time through. C From bens Fri Feb 21 16:47:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1LLll512036 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:47:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:47:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200302212147.h1LLlla12032@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: what/when is Mendo? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Damn, That weekend I was going to fly to Moab to see what is going on with the G4 Challenge. If the weather is not conducive to that and we cannot fly, we will come to Mendo. It sounds like a lot of fun. Kind regards, Mark Pilkington. Blair Peterson wrote: > Mark, > > Been off-line for a while and I think no one answered yr question about Mendo. Get yourself up to Cedar Camp in the Mendocino Nat'l Forest on the weekend of April 25-27 and you can meet alot of folks on this list and see a lot of our Rovers! Trail runs, big campfire, big potluck, etc. Joe Lucas usually posts details/directions closer to the event. > > Cheers, > Blair From bens Fri Feb 21 20:25:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M1PqN13513 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:25:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:25:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220125.h1M1Pqh13509@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Falcon 4x4 in the UK (http://www.falcon4x4.com/) has a pretty cool system for carrying stuff on the rear door. Basically, you mount a "base plate" behind the spare tire (looks a lot like the square tube you put a tow ball into) then attach various accessories. I'm considering the "Jackdigger" which holds a hi-lift jack, shovel or other tools, and rope/cable/chain, and the bike carrier. My question for those that know these things, is that kind of weight (mostly a loaded jackdigger) going to warp/bend/tear the rear door, especially if used off-highway? If the door is up to it, this seems like an excellent set up. (Especially if the "90/110/defender" base plate will fit a series vehicle!) Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 20:45:50 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M1joT13636 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:45:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:45:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220145.h1M1joI13632@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Roger Sinasohn wrote: > > Falcon 4x4 in the UK (http://www.falcon4x4.com/) has a > pretty cool system > for carrying stuff on the rear door. Basically, you > mount a "base plate" > behind the spare tire (looks a lot like the square tube > you put a tow ball > into) then attach various accessories. I'm considering > the "Jackdigger" [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] beware Roger! Remember the rear door on the Light Brigade was damaged from too much weight and Tom Had to cut it open with an axe or similar! ;-) ok! maybe not that bad, but...and later I carried the 255-85-16 spare along with a full gerry can for ages....with a bike on the rack and sometimes a bit of wood on the rack....... The replacement door is now TOAST!!!!! ;-( so...the moral of the story is to keep the weight down as little as possible from what I can see Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Feb 21 21:10:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M2AkX13764 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:10:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:10:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220210.h1M2AkL13760@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jason Pipes" To: Subject: RE: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 41 lines filtered. ] I would think the light-duty rope and tool carrying device would be ok to use on the rear door, it's pretty neat in fact and looks nice too. Adding the jack-all/high lift might be pushing it though! jpipes From bens Fri Feb 21 23:01:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M41qW14417 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:01:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:01:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220401.h1M41qU14413@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > My question for those that know these things, is that kind of weight > (mostly a loaded jackdigger) going to warp/bend/tear the rear door, > especially if used off-highway? If the door is up to it, this seems like > an excellent set up. (Especially if the "90/110/defender" base plate will > fit a series vehicle!) I'm not clear on which vehicle you're asking about. I seem to recall that you now have a Discovery in which case I second Paul's warnings. I was on-hand when Tom had some serious trouble with his abused back door. If it's your 109, I heartily recommend that you reinforce the door and add a third hinge, if you have not already done so. I found a stock tire to be too much strain on the back door of my 88", causing it to crack at the bottom edges of the glass and eventually bending. That said, for off-road use, I don't favor *anything* on the back door. Not only because of the weight but because of its effect on departure angle. Dropping off a bank and bumping down on the mounted tire or whatever's back there can cave in the door. Other than that, it looks like a nifty set-up! Cheers, Granny From bens Sat Feb 22 00:22:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M5MB516003 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:22:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:22:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220522.h1M5MAJ15999@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS acquisition times Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The black helicopters have turned up the volume.... getting ready for war I would guess.... RW On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Christopher Dow wrote: > > I've noticed that in the last week, my GPS acquisition time has gone > from about 3-5 minutes to about 30 seconds. Have any of you noticed a > change? > > C > From bens Sat Feb 22 00:43:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M5hMh16218 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:43:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:43:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220543.h1M5hLl16214@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Misc ramblings was: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Paul- I'm not sure you would want a picture of this Alfa beast! It's quite straight, almost no rust in the floors and trunk, but would scare Most people off (notice I said Most... you know me- nuttier than a fruit cake, and twice - ah never mind). My wife and son shook their heads when I pulled up with it. My bud who helped haul it gave me a bad time all the way home! The things I have to put up with! I've almost got all the parts. I'll spend a small fortune for chrome, do lots of bead blasting, etc. It will be right when I get done. I have no problem 'seeing' the finished product... What year is your nose cowl? If you think that's not crazy enough, there is a Alfa GTV on e-bay that I would love to buy. Of course, not running. Ah, but the lines! It's all about those lines and the sound of the engines revving to 8K... (yeah, I need help!) Good thing I have a wife or I would already have it. She is a patient woman and I love her to death! I remember when I sold my Honda V45 Sabre (immaculate) to buy my current Honda ST1100. The whole front end was smashed. My friends knew I had lost it! They all swear I have a new bike now. It's actually much prettier than what you can get off the show room floor. It's a 3-part paint. That's how I bought all my tools and even my Rovers - restoring bikes! I've done 30 - 35 bikes. Hey, anyone have some old Series body parts for cheap or a rolled Range Rover? Just don't tell my wife! Kelly Minnick > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:42:50 -0500 > From: Paul Archibald > Subject: Misc ramblings was: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland > > - --- kminnick wrote: > > > > Hi guys- > > Wow - lots of discussion on this list! All these fancy > > cameras makes me feel [ 39 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 22 00:55:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M5ttK16302 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:55:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:55:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220555.h1M5tto16298@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Galvanizer in Oakland Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi TeriAnn- Well, you can have the photo when I'm done scanning it! How about that - deal? The guy I bought the Alfa from has a Sprint Speciale he's restoring. Claims there were 1200 made or something? Parts like hen's teeth, blah, blah blah. I feel real bad when the car's worth something like $40K restored! I love Alfa's and always have, but the plan is to make some money on this and maybe buy a D-90 or a G... or, maybe build my own hybrid. Part of the buck will build me a shop so the wife can have the garage and patio back! Poor woman. When I restored the '73, the computer room, garage, patio and some of the yard was filled with parts. Again, my friends knew I had gone off the deep end! Now they come around just to see what I have in my back yard! Oh, and I will probably buy a mini (Austin) or Alfa GTV (pre-70) to restore and drive. The Giuliettas are just too rare as a daily driver - well, for my pocket book! Kelly Minnick > Subject: Re: Galvanizer in Oakland > > You know at that time I was hot, tired and the front of my left leg was > swollen up from a staff infection I picked up from a skin puncture > about 4 days earlier in the Mono lake basin. Just slightly run down > and a tiny bit outa sorts. > > I keep hoping you would trash that image. > > I had a friend once with an Alfa Sprint Speciale. He used to complain > about the Porshe 356 owners because they got to drive their cars fast > on curvy roads while his was in the shop draining his bank account yet > again. > > Cheerup, you could be paying to restore a Sprint Speciale or an Alfa > Montreal > > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 22 01:12:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M6Cht16406 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:12:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:12:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220612.h1M6Chb16402@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Speaking of GPS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- I have an old Garmin 45... That I paid $275 years ago. Well, I'm now looking to upgrade (for some strange reason) and looking at the G III + and G V. The Garmin V has something like 19 MB of memory and can take a large download. The Garmin III + has something like 1.5 MB. Since we are going to Scotland, we would like to get the CD for Europe and load up the GPS with that info. How much can really be loaded into the III +? I could care less about hotels, restaurants, etc. I mainly want it for hiking over there. Ideas? Comments? GPS in missile systems - GPS guidance is used in quite a few of our missiles. SA can be turned back on in a moments notice if the president so decides. None of the GPS receivers in these systems use the 'commercial' versions (for obvious reasons). It would be cool to won one, though! Kelly Minnick From bens Sat Feb 22 02:51:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M7p3N16796 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:51:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:51:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220751.h1M7p3P16792@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Alfa Lust Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kelly wrote: > The guy I bought the Alfa from has a Sprint Speciale he's restoring. Claims > there were 1200 made or something? Parts like hen's teeth, blah, blah blah. > I feel real bad when the car's worth something like $40K restored! I love > Alfa's and always have, I, too, have always had a soft spot for (certain) Alfas. The abovementioned Sprint Speciale being one of my favorites. Seeing your mention of it, I naturally had to do a web search so I could look at one again. I found a cool website http://www.angelfire.com/mt/envirobio/alfa.html that not only had some good photos of an SS but several of various Zagato versions, including some prior to the TZ that I though especially lovely. The most remarkable, however, was one I'd forgotten altogether (but don't know how I could have!), namely, the Stradale. My God! What a gorgeous automobile! Well, back to searching for Disco Volante photos... Granny From bens Sat Feb 22 04:10:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1M9A1S17313 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:10:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:10:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200302220910.h1M9A0e17306@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alfa Lust Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Owned a '60 Giuletta Spyder with a 5 speed conversion, red of course. Loved the car but blew up the engine passing a bus while in 2nd gear. With the noise of the bus, couldn't hear the engine winding up and, of course, couldn't feel any vibration from the engine. When I looked at the tach. it was around 8,000 rpm and then went bang. Sold the remains when the replacement engine turned out to cost more than I'd paid for the car. Owned it after a succession of Brit. Sports Cars and marveled at the suppleness of the suspension and great handling. A bit too much understeer but the steering wheel wasn't jammed into my chest. Have had the hots for a GTV, especially when I discovered they could be had with a decent sized engine. The 1300cc's in the Giuletta was too reminiscent of a sewing machine though it pumped out more hp than my 1600 MGA. Probably won't own one while I'm in Hawaii. The Giuletta was only 4 years old when I owned it and the cancer was already beginning to show up. Italiens never appreciated the conditions north of their borders. Aloha Peter O. --- Granville Pool wrote: > > Kelly wrote: > > > The guy I bought the Alfa from has a Sprint > Speciale he's restoring. > Claims > > there were 1200 made or something? Parts like > hen's teeth, blah, blah > blah. [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Feb 22 13:34:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MIYth19540 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:34:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:34:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302221834.h1MIYt919536@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > My question for those that know these things, is that kind of weight > (mostly a loaded jackdigger) going to warp/bend/tear the rear door, > especially if used off-highway? I vividly remember the sound of a sledge hammer being repeatedly beat against a Discovery rear hinge. This was first thing in the morning whilst camping next to the mummy caves at the bottom of Canyon de chilly. If it did not awaken any of the Anasazi indian spirits resting in the canyon I'm sure people from miles around noted the sound of the repeated blows to the hinge as they reverberated down the canyon. Cause of this morning disruption? An overloaded door bending hinges to the point where the rear door would not open. If you can not fit it inside there is a lot to be said about a small off road trailer. TeriAnn J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California twakeman@cruzers.com http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare" Amelia Earhart 1898-1937 From bens Sat Feb 22 14:30:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MJUsZ19817 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:30:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302221930.h1MJUsK19813@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > > I vividly remember the sound of a sledge hammer being > repeatedly beat > against a Discovery rear hinge. .................................. > If you can not fit it inside there is a lot to be said > about a small > off road trailer. ....and THAT is why I am preparing to turn Elgie's old tub and rear frame into a matching trailer for the series, and ya nevre know...it may even get dragged behind teh disco someday...but probably never! ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Feb 22 14:51:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MJpCK19918 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:51:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:51:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302221951.h1MJpCF19914@minbar.fourfold.org> From: StevHutch@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: powdercoating Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 28 lines filtered. ] I too have been looking for a media blasting place to do my truck , and other misc. stuff. There used to be a plastic media blasting place in Richmond, but I 've lost the info. Stevens Creek Dodge Body shop does bead blasting according to a Hot rod magazine I picked up. They are at (408) 727-3358 . Also saw an ad in it for West Coast powder Coatings in Concord (925) 682-4828 . Another is Performance Coatings in Menlo Park...(650) 678-9240 . Call around for the best prices..... - Steve H. > RE: powdercoating in PA > > Anyone have a favorite place in the south bay ('round PA) for media > blasting and powder coating? This is not for the LRs but for some > vintage furniture that is threatening to rust away. These are smallish > items like a chair, ottoman etc. > thanks > From bens Sat Feb 22 16:30:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MLU1Z20502 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:30:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:30:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302222130.h1MLU1Y20498@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Disco Rear Doors Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Roger wrote: > My question for those that know these things, is that kind of > weight (mostly a loaded jackdigger) going to warp/bend/tear > the rear door, especially if used off-highway? If the door is > up to it, this seems like an excellent set up. I would not mount anything on a Disco rear door, since I think it is already overloaded with the big U.S. Spec. tire and wheel (I was driving a rental Disco II in San Diego with an 18" Hurricane wheel on the rear door this month). A friend had his Disco II door bend due to a rear door tire mounted bike rack. Kevin Nikon F (Coiler Camera), Light Meter broken since 1980 Toshiba PDR M4 (Air Sprung Camera) Thinking about the Cannon S40 (Air Sprung Camera w/BMW engine) From bens Sat Feb 22 18:03:47 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MN3lK20895 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:03:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:03:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200302222303.h1MN3lq20891@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Wheels for TomW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 33 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-2-1070184529 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed TomW, I found the following on LRX. Maybe they are still available. Tom Durango Advertisement to SELL; Product: PARTS; Price: $245; (Currency: US Dollars) ; New LR Disco Steel ''Star'' Wheels New-Unused set of four original equipment LR factory steel wheels for LR Discovery. Will fit other LR models as well. 16''x7'' - black. Lists for $110 each from LR. Will trade for computer equip or ??? Offers considered. Howard Carter. hccarter@u.washington.edu Seattle, Washington, United States of America - 29 January 2003 --Apple-Mail-2-1070184529 From bens Sat Feb 22 18:11:46 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MNBkW20976 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:11:46 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:11:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302222311.h1MNBj020972@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Nikon Camera stuff for sale, absolutely no Rover content Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Since this has become the Rover/Camera list, thought someone might be interested in two Nikon lenses, a bunch of filters and miscellaneous lense and body caps I'm going to get rid of. The lenses have been stored in a Pelican hermetically sealed case with dessicants since new in '90. No fogging, strings or other funny things growing on the lenses. Lenses are VERY lightly used, probably only a couple of rolls of film each. Got the lenses and replacement body for an outfit that was stolen. Insurance company replaced my trusty Nikkormat and manual lenses with AF lenses and an FM body. Didn't like using the AF lenses manually and lost interest in photography. Sold the body figuring I'd get an AF body but haven't. Figure it's time to get rid of the lenses and filters. Nikkor 35-105mm AF f3.5-f4.5 AF Macro Zoom lense with Nikon L37 filter, lense and body caps and original box. Nikkor 24mm AF f2.8 Wide Angle lense, Toshiba skylight 1A filter, lense and body caps and original box. Filters mostly date from the '60s, have been shipped from Coast to coast many times and spent three years on a boat in the South Pacific, stored with the lenses in the Pelican since '90. Optical conditions are surprizingly good. I couldn't see any sign of bugs eating the coating. Most have nicks and other signs of use on the mounts, however. All are Nikon 52mm size except for one 55mm, as noted Nikkor B8 Blue in Nikon hard plastic case. Nikkor Y48 Yellow in hard plastic Toshiba case. Nikkor Polarizing Filter in Nikon hard plastic case. Replaced this filter with another because the mount threads were getting worn. Will still screw onto lense and stay there but threads are not like new. Nikkor Polarizing Filter in Nikkor leather case. Nikon O56 Orange in soft plastic Tiffen case. Chip in glass at edge. Extends about 3/16" into lense from edge and about 1/4" long. Very small and never had it's effects show in any picture. Kenko POO Green, loose. Kenko SR60:2 Red in Tiffen soft Plastic Tiffen Case. Tiffen Skylight 1A in hard plastic Toshiba case. 55mm HCE UV/Haze 1 Filter Two body caps, probably off Nikormat body but think they will fit any Nikon body. One has the Nikon logo defaced with plastic cement. Must have been the cover that was on my camera when I brought it into the country from Japan. You can still read the Nikon logo but its shiny and partially melted into the background. The other is flatter and larger outside diameter and says Nippon Kogaku Tokoyo. Assume this is for a Nikon as that's the only equipment I've owned. Lense covers for Nikon Lense, both lense and mount cover. Have no idea of the value of above, make an offer. Will be putting them on Ebay shortly. Aloha Peter O. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Feb 22 18:57:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1MNvHL21167 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:57:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:57:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200302222357.h1MNvHM21163@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Wheels for TomW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org thanks for the tip! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: Wheels for TomW > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/enriched; ] > [ 33 lines filtered. ] > > --Apple-Mail-2-1070184529 > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 22 23:00:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1N40ju22199 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:00:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:00:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302230400.h1N40if22195@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Alfa Lust Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I almost bought a 2000 Spider, about a year before I eventually bought the Jaguar XK-150. I might have bought it, too, had it not broken down during the test drive! That's as close as I ever came to owning an Alfa. No, I take it back. I almost bought a 2000 Berlina, new, several years later. Granny From bens Sun Feb 23 00:15:37 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1N5Fbf23815 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:15:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:15:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200302230515.h1N5FaA23811@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alfa Lust - and careful when hauling cars! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...You had to mention Alfas... Last weekend, I moved an Alfa 2600 Spyder for a friend of mine - then loaded up my E-TYpe. Left here for Visalia Tuesday afternoon in rush-hour traffic, got cutoff by an idiot who decided to slam on his brakes, in turn causing me to slam on my brakes. Once we began to move again, I felt/heard a lout THUMP THUMP THUMP CRASH!!!!!!!, and looked in my rear view mirror to find that the E-Type decided that it didn't want to be on the trailer anymore - this at the I-710/I-10 interchange!!! To make matters worse, I wasn't in the right lane - no...I was in the next lane in from the right lane, and there was an on ramp merging into the right lane right where it happened! Luckily, the car didn't hit any other cars, nor did any other cars hit the E-Type, and a couple of truckers held up traffic long enough for me to push the E-Type off to the shoulder - also for me to get the van/trailer to the shoulder. As I was getting ready to winch the car back onto the trailer a couple of CHP motorcycle officers stopped to see what happened, I told them, and as I was finishing up my tale of woe, I hear a lout CRUMPLE CRUNCH SMASH, and turn around to find a brand-new Camry had cutoff a tractor-trailer in such an angle, that the truck driver couldn't see her, and her car got munched! Turns out, all 4 tie-downs that I had on the E-Type had snapped apart - these were aircraft cargo straps capable of holding 5000lbs each! (I had two at each end of the car) It was a VERY good thing that I had the handbrake on - AND had the car in gear, so that it didn't wander away after hitting the ground. The car faired well, though it did get a couple of dings under the bonnet. Other than that, it's been a good week. Charles P.S. Glad as hell that this didn't happen with my friends' Alfa! On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:51:03 -0500 "Granville Pool" writes: > > Kelly wrote: > > > The guy I bought the Alfa from has a Sprint Speciale he's > restoring. > Claims > > there were 1200 made or something? Parts like hen's teeth, blah, > blah > blah. [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Sun Feb 23 02:54:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1N7ss325250 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 02:54:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 02:54:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302230754.h1N7ssF25246@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: Alfa Lust - and careful when hauling cars! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, I'm not perfect but when I haul my own equiptment on my trailer, I use two straps front and rear..... AND then... two chains, one on each axle.... but once I used Ben S's friends trailer in a hurry rescue mission..... turns out the ramps looked secure ( after I personally lifted the 351 cleveland long block off the trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... but the ramps were not secure ( I assumed they were in the proper stowage spot )..... but I paid for the tire and Ben and I split the alloy rim of the guy who ate the ramp that flew off!!!!!!!!!!! Luckily no injuries! prolly almost 20k Milies of towing, one incedent.... Be VERY careful, I've seen trailers break from rigs and spark/skid behinnd the owners rig!!!!!!! Yuck, carnage out of control! TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles R Irvin" To: Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Alfa Lust - and careful when hauling cars! > > ...You had to mention Alfas... > > Last weekend, I moved an Alfa 2600 Spyder for a friend of mine - then > loaded up my E-TYpe. > > Left here for Visalia Tuesday afternoon in rush-hour traffic, got cutoff > by an idiot who decided to slam on his brakes, in turn causing me to slam > on my brakes. Once we began to move again, I felt/heard a lout THUMP [ 53 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 24 00:25:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1O5PCe00317 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:25:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302240525.h1O5PBJ00313@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Changing Rangie fuel filters... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...can make all the difference in the world! Finally changed the one in my '89, and it idles again!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not only that, but it happily revs all the way through the RPM range, right upto 5500! I don't know when it was last changed, but the old one was a Mahle filter (Germany), and the new one is a Lucas. The old filter was so dirty, I tipped it to let the gas out, and the gas was dark brown! (I presume it's been on the truck since I got it back in '98) It was running so bad, I thought the stepper motor was gone, but it seems to be working just fine, as is the throttle positioning sensor. More news, but I'll leave that to Russ... :) Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Mon Feb 24 00:27:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1O5Rga00342 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:27:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:27:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200302240527.h1O5Rfv00338@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Gambrinus Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well folks it finally runs! Gambrinus finally took a stroll around the block today! Much cheering and shouting was had by all. Many huge thanks to Charles for not only the use of his backyard and driveway for the past year but also the continuing help. Now that I'm safely at home I can sit and have a few celebratory beers! RW From bens Mon Feb 24 01:18:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1O6I9r00777 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:18:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:18:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302240618.h1O6I9P00773@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Roger Sinasohn wrote: > > > My question for those that know these things, is that kind of weight > (mostly a loaded jackdigger) going to warp/bend/tear the rear door, > especially if used off-highway? If the door is up to it, this seems like > an excellent set up. (Especially if the "90/110/defender" base plate will > fit a series vehicle!) > Well, speaking from experience, I can tell you that using a spare wheel mounted bike carrier that carried two mountain bikes on one of my trips appeared to be the cause of my back window shattering. It would seem the weight caused the door to bow outwards until finally the window broke. I use a tow hitch mounted carrier now.. Cheers, Bruce From bens Mon Feb 24 11:14:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1OGEuW03692 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:14:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:14:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302241614.h1OGEuK03688@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Carrying gear on the rear door? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Guess you probably got the point by now that the maximum safe amount of weight to carry on the rear door is...... Oh......Something less than that of the spare tire. I had to make hinge re-alignment part of my yearly maintenance on both the D90 and the Disco (both with only stock rear tire on the door) as that was when the striker would start to drag. Sick really.... -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 24 11:20:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1OGKqN03767 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:20:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:20:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200302241620.h1OGKpq03763@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Speaking of GPS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Kelly, I think the 3+ and 5 are about like the StreetPilot3....check the specs on any vendor's website. My SP3 holds either 128 or 256 meg of data on the replaceable card. The card is what holds the maps (routes and waypoints internal mem). Right now I have every rabbit track from Ely NV to Corpus Cristi Texas, plus topos covering most of central Utah loaded in there. Surprising really, since the SP also stores every street address, mom and pop greasy spooon, gas station, hotel, etc along all those rabbit tracks as part of the map data. I went with the SP3 mainly for the larger screen. (wanted car to car portability w.o. a laptop) But I still use my 12xl for hand held stuff. -Dave G. From bens Mon Feb 24 12:36:24 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1OHaOv04503 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:36:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:36:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200302241736.h1OHaO404499@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Alfa Lust Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've owned a '84 spider, '82 GTV-6. '88 3.0 Milano and a '68 Giulia Super (as in julia). The first three were good but the Giulia was great. A nice 4 speed synchro (or was it 5?) a 1750 motor (stock was 1600) and 4 wheel discs. >>> mapool@adelphia.net 02/21/03 11:51PM >>> Kelly wrote: > The guy I bought the Alfa from has a Sprint Speciale he's restoring. Claims > there were 1200 made or something? Parts like hen's teeth, blah, blah blah. > I feel real bad when the car's worth something like $40K restored! I love > Alfa's and always have, I, too, have always had a soft spot for (certain) Alfas. The abovementioned Sprint Speciale being one of my favorites. Seeing your mention of it, I naturally had to do a web search so I could look at one again. I found a cool website http://www.angelfire.com/mt/envirobio/alfa.html that not only had some good photos of an SS but several of various Zagato versions, including some prior to the TZ that I though especially lovely. The most remarkable, however, was one I'd forgotten altogether (but don't know how I could have!), namely, the Stradale. My God! What a gorgeous automobile! Well, back to searching for Disco Volante photos... Granny From bens Mon Feb 24 17:51:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1OMpLQ06472 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:51:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:51:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302242251.h1OMpLm06468@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have been using my GPS a lot lately - and although I haven't noticed faster pickup times, I have noticed a lot more "drift" in the coordinates. One minute the location is very solid, then later it tells me I am 100' from the waypoint. The next day I can track right back to the waypoint (a property corner) within 3'. Has selective availability been fiddled with recently with regards to middle east conflicts? -Mo From bens Mon Feb 24 18:07:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1ON7jY06576 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:07:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:07:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302242307.h1ON7ir06572@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From FoxNews.com: Iraqi Drones May Target U.S. Cities Monday, February 24, 2003 WASHINGTON — Iraq could be planning a chemical or biological attack on American cities through the use of remote-controlled "drone" planes equipped with GPS tracking maps, according to U.S. intelligence. The information about Iraq's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program has caused a "real concern" among defense personnel, senior U.S. officials tell Fox News. They're worried that these vehicles have already been, or could be, transported inside the United States to be used in an attack, although there is no proof that this has happened. Secretary of State Colin Powell showed a picture of a small drone plane during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month. "UAVs outfitted with spray tanks constitute an ideal method for launching a terrorist attack using biological weapons," Powell said during his speech. "Iraq could use these small UAVs, which have a wingspan of only a few meters, to deliver biological agents to its neighbors or, if transported, to other countries, including the United States." Powell said there is "ample evidence" that Iraq has dedicated much time and effort to developing and testing spray devices that could be adapted for UAVs. "And of the little that Saddam Hussein told us about UAVs, he has not told the truth," Powell said. In the arms declaration Iraq submitted to the U.N. Security Council in December, the country said its UAVs have a range of only 50 miles. But Powell said U.S. intelligence sources found that one of Iraq's newest UAVs went 310 miles nonstop on autopilot in a test run. That distance is over the 155 miles that the United Nations permits, and the test was left out of Iraq's arms declaration. Officials tell Fox that there is solid intelligence that Iraq has tested many different types of sprayers on these drones to disperse chemical and biological weapons. President Bush addressed the threat in October in Cincinnati, making his first big case outlining Iraq's defiance. "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical and biological weapons across broad areas," Bush said in preparation for a congressional vote authorizing the use of force against Iraq. "We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States." The president noted, however, that sophisticated delivery systems aren't required for a chemical or biological attack. "All that might be required are a small container and one terrorist or Iraqi intelligence operative to deliver it," he said. Even though it has been mentioned a few times by administration officials, the issue of UAVs and their capabilities has been largely overlooked. But some experts say that even if the UAVs do get assembled for use in the United States, the chances that they could cause widespread damage are low. "These technologies are not terribly well proven," F. Whitten Peters, a former Air Force Secretary, told Fox News, referring to vehicles that can be used to disperse harmful agents. Peters said in order to go undetected in the air, the UAVs would have to be small -- and therefore would not be able to carry too much of a harmful substance, and they would have to fly over densely populated areas if they want to achieve maximum casualties. But because many large metropolitan areas such as Washington have air traffic watchers keeping an eye out for any nearby planes that have not filed a flight plan, the UAVs likely would not succeed in a large-city attack. It's the smaller cities and towns that would be more vulnerable. "It's not clear air traffic would actually see this aircraft," Peters said, adding that if the vehicles flew low enough to evade radar detection, "they would be basically invisible." As to what the government could do to protect Americans from any threat UAVs may pose, Peters said: "I don't think there's much to be done besides the steps we're already taking to deal with chemical and biological threats." eric P.S. Have any luck with your injectors? >>> MHANNAFORD@ShastaCollege.edu 02/24/03 02:51PM >>> I have been using my GPS a lot lately - and although I haven't noticed faster pickup times, I have noticed a lot more "drift" in the coordinates. One minute the location is very solid, then later it tells me I am 100' from the waypoint. The next day I can track right back to the waypoint (a property corner) within 3'. Has selective availability been fiddled with recently with regards to middle east conflicts? -Mo From bens Mon Feb 24 19:36:50 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P0aow07329 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:36:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:36:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250036.h1P0aoC07325@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yep, SA does that kind of thing - I've been wondering if it's back on. I think it tries to insert errors in such a way that simple averaging over a short period of time doesn't help, so you tend to get drift in one direction for a while, then it goes somewhere else. There was an mit page that tried to plot the current accuracy. The one that this page references appears to be down, but this one has other references: http://www.blm.gov/utah/geosciences/mappingsci/gps.html (Not sure how well they all work - used up my 2 minute mendo allotment for this crazy day already... ugh, I dislike computers sometimes). OK, more slacking (much more fun than bugs): general faq: http://www.mobilenetwork.com/gpsplanet/gpspfaq.htm Hmmm weird - it lists several other pages that plot SA and all of them appear to be down as well. Maybe they were asked to take them down? Or maybe my computer is just hating me back? Shannon On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Hannaford, Morgan wrote: > > I have been using my GPS a lot lately - and although I > haven't noticed faster pickup times, I have noticed a lot > more "drift" in the coordinates. One minute the location > is very solid, then later it tells me I am 100' from the > waypoint. The next day I can track right back to the > waypoint (a property corner) within 3'. > Has selective availability been fiddled with recently > with regards to middle east conflicts? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 24 19:40:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P0eu807368 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:40:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:40:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250040.h1P0euB07364@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OH MY GOD. So I go to order a Brake Master cylinder for the LWB, and have two different sources tell me it is ~$3000. Yes that's not one to many 0's it is $3000 becuase you can't just buy a master cylinder, you also have to buy the servo unit. Even then $3000. I doubt that people in England are paying this for a master cylinder. At this price, I'll just keep puttting fluid in until it runs straight out. Mike do you have a brake master cylinder from your rangie parts truck, and is it a ABS type? -Rob From bens Mon Feb 24 19:43:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P0hdE07399 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:43:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:43:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250043.h1P0hdS07395@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200302250036.h1P0aoC07325@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Yep, SA does that kind of thing - I've been wondering if it's back on. I > think it tries to insert errors in such a way that simple averaging over > a short period of time doesn't help, so you tend to get drift in one > direction for a while, then it goes somewhere else. That's exactly what it did. It was a known as a drunken walk. The error would be slowly varying so that short term averaging didn't work. When SA was on I once plotted my location every minute for 24 hours. And it was wandering all over that 100m circle (and for 10 minutes it was 200+ meters off!) Ben From bens Mon Feb 24 19:45:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P0jTL07449 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:45:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:45:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250045.h1P0jTk07445@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200302250040.h1P0euB07364@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > OH MY GOD. So I go to order a Brake Master cylinder for the LWB, and have tw >o different sources tell me it is ~$3000. At that rate is is cheaper to buy a junked RR for the part? Time to hit the junk yards I guess... All that I can say is ouch! Ben From bens Mon Feb 24 20:46:58 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P1kwU07826 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:46:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:46:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250146.h1P1kvQ07822@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Photo Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Late summer would be good for me as well, although I will hopefully be gone the first couple weeks of August (really hoping to get to go on the Alaska diving trip I missed last year). I was very bummed to miss TerriAnn's photo trip last time around and really need to get back to taking photos (have hardly taken any pictures the last year or two). Shannon On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 01:26 AM, Mehdi Saghafi wrote: > > > __when's are we doing a Rover photo trip? > > --Shannon > > Can we make it late summer, so my 109 will be ready? > Mehdi From bens Mon Feb 24 21:29:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P2Tca08057 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:29:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:29:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250229.h1P2TbO08053@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org wait till the ABS goes bad, rebuild kits are available i think , chk with Phillip at Roverland, he might have a used one around or can help you get one fil >From: "Kerner, Rob" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:40:56 -0500 > >OH MY GOD. So I go to order a Brake Master cylinder for the LWB, and have >two different sources tell me it is ~$3000. Yes that's not one to many 0's >it is $3000 becuase you can't just buy a master cylinder, you also have to [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bens Mon Feb 24 21:39:04 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P2d4M08137 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:39:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:39:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250239.h1P2d4B08133@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On my most recent trip to San Diego, I had the camper with my Alpine Nav system in it... On many spots on I5 in LA , SD there are many side roads next to the highway.. I notice the computer would breifly keep telling me to get back on I5, confusing various side roads with I5. Usually it has been spot on... Also the breadcrumbs don't seem to align as usual on roads I travel. Good thing I didn't let it steer the truck and goto sleep like usual! TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Smith" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: GPS selective availability > > In message <200302250036.h1P0aoC07325@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > > Yep, SA does that kind of thing - I've been wondering if it's back on. I > > think it tries to insert errors in such a way that simple averaging over > > a short period of time doesn't help, so you tend to get drift in one > > direction for a while, then it goes somewhere else. > > That's exactly what it did. It was a known as a drunken walk. The [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] When > SA was on I once plotted my location every minute for 24 hours. And it was > wandering all over that 100m circle (and for 10 minutes it was 200+ meters off!) > > > Ben From bens Mon Feb 24 21:44:42 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P2igt08207 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:44:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:44:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250244.h1P2ig708203@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Who's got the cool checks? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org sII/IIa 109" SW: Tempting! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Feb 24 22:46:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P3k3X08590 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:46:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:46:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250346.h1P3k3j08586@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: GPS selective availability Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 109 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-3--887633379 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed OK, I pestered a friend who admits he is way too into this stuff. Looks like things are operating with SA off, although there still may be large errors in some areas... Anyway, below a collection of comments and links from him. Shannon JPL says they're good to +/- 3cm, though it looks like vertical may have gone as high as 15cm a bit over 2 hours ago (using a dual-frequency receiver to compensate for ionosphere-introduced error) -- if there were intentional signal degradation, you'd sure expect to see it here: http://gipsy.jpl.nasa.gov/igdg/demo/index.html Other links of note: The USCG seems to say SA is still turned off (and the letter says they'll use regional degradation long before global degradation): They do occasionally purposely tweak it in regions (scroll down), but nothing listed for this area: Satellite availability and related notifications: A site doing real-time error plots, but on a per-satellite basis even: Peterson AFB (the home of "US Space Command", apparently) has accuracy graphs all the way back to April 27, 2000 (interestingly enough, just a few days before SA was turned off): CONUS graph from a few days ago: Interestingly, I can't tell a difference between what should be SA and post-SA graphs (though the changes in the graph can be quite dramatic from day-to-day anywhere I looked): --Apple-Mail-3--887633379 From bens Tue Feb 25 00:19:59 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P5Jx410286 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:19:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:19:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250519.h1P5Jw110282@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef; ] [ 83 lines filtered. ] charset="utf-8" SXQncyBiYXJlbHkgbGVha2luZyBub3csIHNvIEknbGwgd2FpdCB1bml0bCBpdCBnZXRzIHdvcnNl LCBhbmQgaW4gdGhlIG1lYW50aW1lIHRyeSB0byBmaW5kIGEgcmVidWlsZCBraXQuDQogDQotUm9i DQoNCgktLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLSANCglGcm9tOiBGaWwgRi4gW21haWx0bzpm aWwxMDlzd0Bob3RtYWlsLmNvbV0gDQoJU2VudDogTW9uIDIvMjQvMjAwMyA2OjI5IFBNIA0KCVRv OiBtZW5kb19yZWNjZUBmb3VyZm9sZC5vcmcgDQoJQ2M6IA0KCVN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBSUiBNYXN0 ZXIgQ3lsaW5kZXIgKCQkJCQkJCQkJCQkJCQkJCkNCgkNCgkNCg0KDQoJd2FpdCB0aWxsIHRoZSBB QlMgZ29lcyBiYWQsIHJlYnVpbGQga2l0cyBhcmUgYXZhaWxhYmxlIGkgdGhpbmsgLCBjaGsgd2l0 aA0KCVBoaWxsaXAgYXQgUm92ZXJsYW5kLCBoZSBtaWdodCBoYXZlIGEgdXNlZCBvbmUgYXJvdW5k IG9yIGNhbiBoZWxwIHlvdSBnZXQNCglvbmUNCgkNCglmaWwNCgkNCgkNCgkNCgkNCgkNCgkNCgkN CgkNCgk+RnJvbTogIktlcm5lciwgUm9iIiA8S2VybmVyQHZlZ21haWwudWNkYXZpcy5lZHU+DQoJ PlJlcGx5LVRvOiBtZW5kb19yZWNjZUBmb3VyZm9sZC5vcmcNCgk+VG86IDxtZW5kb19yZWNjZUBm b3VyZm9sZC5vcmc+DQoJPlN1YmplY3Q6IFJSIE1hc3RlciBDeWxpbmRlciAoJCQkJCQkJCQkJCQk JCQkKQ0KCT5EYXRlOiBNb24sIDI0IEZlYiAyMDAzIDE5OjQwOjU2IC0wNTAwDQoJPg0KCT5PSCBN WSBHT0QuICBTbyBJIGdvIHRvIG9yZGVyIGEgQnJha2UgTWFzdGVyIGN5bGluZGVyIGZvciB0aGUg TFdCLCBhbmQgaGF2ZQ0KCT50d28gZGlmZmVyZW50IHNvdXJjZXMgdGVsbCBtZSBpdCBpcyB+JDMw MDAuICBZZXMgdGhhdCdzIG5vdCBvbmUgdG8gbWFueSAwJ3MNCgk+aXQgaXMgJDMwMDAgYmVjdWFz ZSB5b3UgY2FuJ3QganVzdCBidXkgYSBtYXN0ZXIgY3lsaW5kZXIsIHlvdSBhbHNvIGhhdmUgdG8N CgkgIFsgNyBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIHF1b3RlZCBsaW5lcyBwcnVuZWQuIF0NCgkNCgkNCglfX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f Xw0KCVByb3RlY3QgeW91ciBQQyAtIGdldCBNY0FmZWUuY29tIFZpcnVzU2NhbiBPbmxpbmUNCglo dHRwOi8vY2xpbmljLm1jYWZlZS5jb20vY2xpbmljL2lidXkvY2FtcGFpZ24uYXNwP2NpZD0zOTYz DQoJDQoJDQoNCg== From bens Tue Feb 25 01:30:00 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P6U0W10798 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 01:30:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 01:29:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250629.h1P6TxZ10794@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well....I just got home from brokering a deal on a black '94 Rangie LWB!!!!!!!!!!!!! No..NO..no!!! Not mine!(two rovers is more than enough for now...) It's for a friend(I'm sure many can guess who!) ;-) There will be a white '89 rangie on the market verrrrry soon! hint..hint! so....what was the deal with replacing the air suspension? hehehehe! I'm guessing we're gonna be doing the conversion to coils on the beastie over teh next coupla weeks, buuuuut if anyone on the list has done so, and has spare air susp. stuff to sell give me a holler. Ya never know, it may be a simple thing of swapping in spare "stuff".......but I'm not holding my breath. maybe looking for some stock springs or OME ones someone isn't using anymore? ....also..what do these use as shocks? same as a coiler? or do they use the airbags for everything? It was sitting on the bumpstops for teh testdrive, so I can't tell... Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 03:03:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1P83cI11578 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:03:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:03:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302250803.h1P83ca11574@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: 109 For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A friend sent me this link today: http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sfc/car/8774585.html Kevin From bens Tue Feb 25 10:37:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PFbdh13972 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:37:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:37:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251537.h1PFbd013968@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, I'll take the used air stuff off Granny's hands if he does do the conversion. -Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Archibald [mailto:androbus@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:30 PM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Subject: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! > > > > Well....I just got home from brokering a deal on a black [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 11:02:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PG2Bd14106 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:02:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:02:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251602.h1PG2Ak14102@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Who's got the cool checks? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Are they printed on paper grocery sack material so they can serve as gaskets in a pinch? :^) -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 25 11:05:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PG5tj14135 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:05:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251605.h1PG5tl14131@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: MC prices Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Rob, You mentioned folks in England. Did you check Mansfield Motors for the parts? They list MC: RTC3658 (up to end 87my) NTC4991 (88-94my) STC1763 (95 & on) Some other stuff too. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 25 11:14:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PGEBJ14207 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:14:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:14:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251614.h1PGEBQ14203@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul (and Granny), In regards to the air suspension replacement, there are always a lot of different ways to go. Give me an idea of the intended use of the vehicle, and I can share my experiences with swapping out suspension on the two LWB's I have. Also, once you have removed the air springs (please don't call them air-bags, you'll confuse the issue...an air bag is what saves your life, an air spring is what holds the truck up (or in your case doesn't hold the truck up)), the compressor, if working, can be used to power lockers, air up a tire, etc....(can someone diagram that last sentence???). The valve block with it's related solenoids is pretty interesting, but quite useless for anything practical. I think you might be able to tear into it and play around, but it would just be for fun. If you find a use for the valve block please share it! The air springs can be sold on e-bay (so can the remainder of the system, but it seems that the air springs fetch the most interest). Even though you probably don't know what's wrong with the system, IMO, you're much better off just doing the coil swap rather than get the system re-set, re-inflated just to find out the problem, fix it, get it re-set *again*, (at a cost of about $800 per time I hear), just to have to change to coils in the long run. Nip it in the bud! So, give me some goals with the vehicle and I can give you some general advice. Shocks are the same as SWB RR's, springs are too. You'll need some lower mounting plates and hardware (but I have all of that stuff laying around). Good luck on finalizing the deal and keep in touch. It's going to be a kick butt LWB when Granny's done with it for sure! Michael _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Tue Feb 25 11:58:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PGw2H14470 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:58:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:58:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251658.h1PGw1w14466@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Also, once you have removed the air springs (please don't call them > air-bags, you'll confuse the issue...an air bag is what saves your > life, an > air spring is what holds the truck up (or in your case doesn't hold the > truck up)), the compressor, if working, can be used to power lockers, > air up > a tire, etc....(can someone diagram that last sentence???). > Nice use of parethetical remark inside parenthetical remark to finish with double parentheses. Maybe a semi colon could have been used instead of the three period (elipsis?) Otherwise very clearly written. Intorductory clause, parenthetical remarks, and simple sentence. You might want to finish with , and etc since it's part of a list. Real reason for replying: removing the air suspension doesn't effect the computer, and hence the whole car? being a series owner, I figured if the air suspension went bad, the truck would sit down, give an error code, make you a latte and call the dealer. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, ours:2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Tue Feb 25 12:03:53 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PH3rw14512 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:03:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251703.h1PH3qQ14508@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: RR Master Cyl $$$$$$$$$ Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob, I know that master cylinder price is bad, but you gotta stop swearing like that... >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:19:58 -0500 >From: "Kerner, Rob" >Subject: RE: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef; ] [ 83 lines filtered. ] charset="utf-8" From bens Tue Feb 25 12:08:41 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PH8fR14546 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:08:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:08:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251708.h1PH8ef14542@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, Thank you for the early morning laugh. Hehe. The computer for the air suspension system is completely seperate from the engine management and other random accessories. On one of my LWB's we gutted the entire system, computer, compressor, wiring, hosing, everything. The other one we just removed the air springs. No difference in performance. I do have a check engine light on, but that's probably because the little brown box has been removed. Oh well, completely non-related. The 'sit-back-while-I-make-you-a-latte' option was very limited and was only an option for about 6 months on the '99 1/2 HSE's sold in Beverly Hills (a regional option I s'pose). Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Tue Feb 25 12:12:21 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PHCLB14615 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:12:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:12:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251712.h1PHCLo14611@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: RR Master Cyl $$$$$$$$$ Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeahh. I was swearing, but that seems to be something weird with my home computer, and Outlook Web Access from my Exchange 2000 server. I have verified no virus, but I haven't tried to send from OWA from any other machines to see if it is an OWA problem, or just some communication screw up with bens server and/or filter. I havn't had any other issues with OWA going to other servers. Ben what email package is Mendo using? What I said in that message was, it is leaking very little, so I'll live with it while I try to find a MC or rebuild kit. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 25 13:44:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PIiXr15176 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251844.h1PIiXn15172@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob, ...and others, before Granny jumps in and helps to correct the error....no! it's NOT Granny.... another mendo member who has been rather quiet(usually is actually) with a white '89 rangie(and a diesel carawagon).....Fil knows who it is... ;-) Paul --- "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > > Paul, I'll take the used air stuff off Granny's hands if > he does do the > conversion. > > -Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 13:49:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PInBF15235 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:49:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:49:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251849.h1PInBS15231@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm shocked. I was sure it was Granny. I do know he went to look at a 94 lwb. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 25 13:57:02 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PIv2B15291 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:57:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:57:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251857.h1PIv1C15287@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....who has been rather quiet(usually is actually) with a white '89 rangie(and a diesel carawagon)..." Joe? -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 25 13:58:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PIwU915330 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:58:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:58:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251858.h1PIwTw15326@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > > I'm shocked. I was sure it was Granny. I do know he > went to look at a > 94 lwb. Rob, I thought you HAD converted to coils? I guess teh problem is htere are too many white rangies around here? I thought I was pretty obvious with the last hint though.... ;-) ....not saying anything more until it's sitting in fremont! Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 14:01:13 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJ1D815368 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:01:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:01:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251901.h1PJ1D415364@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Apologies extended! I just assumed....(making an ass.....) Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bens Tue Feb 25 14:01:54 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJ1sN15387 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:01:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:01:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251901.h1PJ1sL15383@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nahh my only problem ever with air suspension was cracked old bags. (Knock knock knock), although with the price of brake components who needs air supspension failures. I need to keep Air suspension running for about 4 more years, or until Cynthia no longer has to lift kids into the truck. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 25 14:02:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJ2mm15405 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:02:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:02:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251902.h1PJ2mj15401@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Apologies extended! I just assumed....(making an ass.....) > > Michael > Michael, I think I assumed first. _rob From bens Tue Feb 25 14:13:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJD3315450 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:13:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:13:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251913.h1PJD3N15446@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh cool! Someone to blame finally!!! :) Michael >Michael, I think I assumed first. > >_rob _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Tue Feb 25 14:15:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJFPJ15488 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:15:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251915.h1PJFPv15479@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thought I'd throw in a little footnote here: Was at BP yesterday, and Steve tells me that Caterpillar is so screwed up on LR's parts inventory, that the dealers currently can't get air springs, unless they need them for a specific vehicle! (he said as he was walking out the door with two truck sets that were headed to LR Thousand Oaks) Charles ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 25 14:15:25 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJFPl15489 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:15:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251915.h1PJFPg15482@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Master Cylinder ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I always heard that the ABS unit was $1500 all by its lonesome??? At least, when the trucks were new, as they had problems with the early ABS units - hence why I don't own a truck with ABS, and never will unless I get a really swanky job. I'm much more comfortable with paying $60-80 for a rebuild kit, thank you very much! I like the air tanks, though - gives me an idea............ :) Charles On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:40:56 -0500 "Kerner, Rob" writes: > > OH MY GOD. So I go to order a Brake Master cylinder for the LWB, > and have two different sources tell me it is ~$3000. Yes that's not > one to many 0's it is $3000 becuase you can't just buy a master > cylinder, you also have to buy the servo unit. Even then $3000. I > doubt that people in England are paying this for a master cylinder. > At this price, I'll just keep puttting fluid in until it runs > straight out. Mike do you have a brake master cylinder from your > rangie parts truck, and is it a ABS type? [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 25 14:20:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJKUO15584 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:20:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251920.h1PJKT015580@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org YEAH - and tell him to get that Carawagon running, and I'll race him over Donner with Gillian! (after I replace the main seals, of course...) Guess he's had enough of those VW's, eh? Charles On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Paul Archibald writes: > > Rob, > ...and others, before Granny jumps in and helps to correct > the error....no! it's NOT Granny.... > > another mendo member who has been rather quiet(usually is > actually) with a white '89 rangie(and a diesel > carawagon).....Fil knows who it is... ;-) > [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bens Tue Feb 25 14:24:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJORD15678 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:24:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:24:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251924.h1PJORQ15674@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "....who has been rather quiet(usually is > actually) with a white '89 rangie(and a diesel > carawagon)..." > > Joe? ....at this point I aint sayin' nuthin'! ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 14:34:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PJYRG15817 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:34:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302251934.h1PJYQB15813@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Charles R Irvin wrote: > > YEAH - and tell him to get that Carawagon running, and > I'll race him over > Donner with Gillian! (after I replace the main seals, of > course...) It runs! I just don't trust the brake master! once in a while it suddenly doesn't work(I HATE CB masters, and am trying to get him to replace with a CV) Still need some work on systems though. exhaust hangs waaay to low, need to install seats with back support as it has no bulkhead, etc..oh! and it's green now! I painted it last summer! He's thinking of removing teh carawagon roof for now and making it a pick-up, but needs a cab assy! hmmmm! may end up topless for summer? have to talk to him... > Guess he's had enough of those VW's, eh? nah! (we even found a diesel wabbit engine that will go in the vanagon hat is in my drive) Just this was/is just too good a deal to pass up!!!!! Paul > Charles > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Paul Archibald > > writes: > > > > Rob, > > ...and others, before Granny jumps in and helps to > correct [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 16:20:03 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PLK3g16586 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:20:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:20:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200302252120.h1PLK2I16582@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob wrote: > I'm shocked. I was sure it was Granny. I do know he went to look at a > 94 lwb. That's okay; I was enjoying my moment of glory! Yeah, I was so close to buying the identical twin of your LWB (Brooklands Green) that I could taste it. But Brian got nervous and traded it in when it started acting weird. Now, I've resigned myself to staying with Ziggy, my '92 County SWB. Funny, now that it's got to be Joe & Patti making that leap: For all that I knew well that they had a white '89 RR, that one didn't come to mind. I was thinking of the seemingly vanished Luke & ?? who bought John Brabyn's white '89 a few years ago. Granny From bens Tue Feb 25 16:32:48 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PLWmr16683 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:32:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:32:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200302252132.h1PLWmG16679@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Santanas in Spain Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A coworker just got back from a trip to Spain, and said I would be in heaven. In this olive farm region, there were thousands of Land Rover Santanas of all sizes. He said there were things called Defender 80s, Defender 100s, and Defender 110s. There were also models that were almost as big as a Suburban. Most were turbo diesel powered. James From bens Tue Feb 25 16:56:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PLuBk16827 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:56:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:56:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200302252156.h1PLuAR16823@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Santanas in Spain Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Your post brought back a thought. What's going on with the Santana Hannibal. It seems to pop up occasionally but nothing definitive about production or marketing. It should be on the market, any of our Non North American contingent seen one or has anyone reported on its performance. Aloha Peter O. --- James Howard wrote: > A coworker just got back from a trip to Spain, and > said I would be in > heaven. In this olive farm region, there were > thousands of Land Rover > Santanas of all sizes. He said there were things > called Defender 80s, > Defender 100s, and Defender 110s. There were also > models that were > almost as big as a Suburban. Most were turbo diesel [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 17:17:22 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1PMHM016994 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:17:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:17:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200302252217.h1PMHMJ16990@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Brian Horner To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Granny, I saw my old LWB for sale in the Used Car lot at Downtown Subaru in Oakland if your still interested in checking it out. I still recommend you pass on this one. Brian On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 01:20 PM, Granville Pool wrote: > > Rob wrote: > >> I'm shocked. I was sure it was Granny. I do know he went to look at >> a >> 94 lwb. > > That's okay; I was enjoying my moment of glory! Yeah, I was so close > to [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 25 19:36:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q0acT17980 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:36:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:36:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260036.h1Q0ac317976@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: OT: measuring squish force and displacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi engineer types. What sort of fancy device could be used to apply a force to an isolated mouse lens and measure the change in diameter as a function of force. We'd like to demonstrate that lenses from gene knockout mice we made are weaker than wildtype lenses. The assay might be performed in aqueous buffer or maybe in air. cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Feb 25 19:51:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q0pQQ18051 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:51:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:51:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260051.h1Q0pQD18047@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: measuring squish force and displacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry to attack the protocol, but is it necessary to measure diameter change? Any old Instron could measure force vs displacement along an axis.....I think you're looking at two separate systems if you want to track diameter. Laser mike would be good for that (non contact), while you apply known load with the instron. Just some thoughts. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 25 19:54:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q0sUq18080 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:54:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:54:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260054.h1Q0sUC18076@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: OT: measuring squish force and displacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org small strain gauge, small sutures, small micrometer or laser micrometer if you need real precision. >>> jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us 02/25/03 04:36PM >>> Hi engineer types. What sort of fancy device could be used to apply a force to an isolated mouse lens and measure the change in diameter as a function of force. We'd like to demonstrate that lenses from gene knockout mice we made are weaker than wildtype lenses. The assay might be performed in aqueous buffer or maybe in air. cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Tue Feb 25 19:59:07 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q0x7q18153 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:59:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:59:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260059.h1Q0x6p18149@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Paul Archibald wrote: > ....at this point I aint sayin' nuthin'! ;-) I certainly can not argue that point, but you have sent out a lot of emails this morning. you must be just aching all over and quivering to say something From bens Tue Feb 25 20:23:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q1NFJ18326 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260123.h1Q1NFP18322@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org paul, isn't there a v8 sitting in the back on the white rangie..what happened to that fil - yes i know who it is >From: Paul Archibald >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 > >Rob, >...and others, before Granny jumps in and helps to correct >the error....no! it's NOT Granny.... [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From bens Tue Feb 25 20:33:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q1XvB18441 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:33:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:33:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260133.h1Q1Xvt18437@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: measuring squish force and displacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A very fine digital camera lense ( set up to record frames ) that could detect the slight motion ( by having some kind of grid coordinate system on the lense or apply it digitally after each frame is taken ) Then apply a burst of finely pointed air at various PSI's ??? TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hess" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: OT: measuring squish force and displacement > > Hi engineer types. > > What sort of fancy device could be used to apply a force to an isolated > mouse lens and measure the change in diameter as a function of force. > We'd like to demonstrate that lenses from gene knockout mice we made are > weaker than wildtype lenses. > > The assay might be performed in aqueous buffer or maybe in air. [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 25 20:36:17 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q1aHU18490 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:36:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:36:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260136.h1Q1aGT18486@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, you see if you can get the bottom end of his old rangies engine, his top end is toast correct? TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! > > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Paul Archibald wrote: > > > ....at this point I aint sayin' nuthin'! ;-) > > I certainly can not argue that point, but you have sent out a lot of > emails this morning. you must be just aching all over and quivering to > say something [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 25 23:19:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q4Jcn19300 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:19:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:19:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260419.h1Q4Jcf19296@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Fil F." wrote: > > > paul, > isn't there a v8 sitting in the back on the white > rangie..what happened to > that nah! It was a vanagon engine! ;-0 ...and now there is a brand new VW SA inline-4 sitting there now that it can't be smogged in CA! ;-( so he'll have to sell it to a 48 stater! If there was a spare rover v-8, it's ve in my disco by now! Paul > > >From: Paul Archibald > >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >Subject: RE: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! > >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:44:33 -0500 > > > >Rob, > >...and others, before Granny jumps in and helps to [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Feb 25 23:25:09 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q4P9H19340 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:25:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260425.h1Q4P8r19336@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Tom Walsh wrote: > > Paul, you see if you can get the bottom end of his old > rangies engine, his > top end is toast correct? well not as bad as mine(we got all the stuff to re-do teh heads, but..) I was agonna be getting it if we found a way to put a deisil in the '89, but now I think Joe will be wanting to purty it up as much as possible, have me finally do the heads, and sell that puppy to a new owner. I'm waitin' for a call from Michael right now about the 4.2 engine to see when we can swing that, now that I have some $$ from selling my brothers vanagon synchro.....so it looks like the Light Brigade will ride again! ...and just in time for mendo! ;-) just need to figure out how to get to Lost Wages, and back with the engine! Paul. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: '94 LWB! ;-) new rover for Mendo! > > > > > > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Feb 26 00:30:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1Q5Uj821000 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:30:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:30:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200302260530.h1Q5Uic20996@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: measuring squish force and displacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org aha, an email has been sent to a Food Science guy at Davis with an Instron. We'll see how it works out. thanks for the tips everyone. > change? Any old Instron could measure force vs displacement along an > axis.....I think you're looking at two separate systems if you want to > track > diameter. Laser mike would be good for that (non contact), while you > apply > known load with the instron. > > Just some thoughts. > [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2001 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, ours:2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Wed Feb 26 11:34:39 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QGYdo24282 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:34:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:34:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200302261634.h1QGYdp24278@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: bulkhead prices dropped..... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've updated my ad on LRX and dropped the prices a bit on the bulkheads. One is now at $150 (was $200) and the other is at $300 (was $350). Give me a shout if you're interested. Cheers, Gerry From bens Wed Feb 26 12:48:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QHmva25145 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:48:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:48:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302261748.h1QHmvt25141@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo'" Subject: almost a Darwin award recipient.... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From today's, "OpinionJournal - Best of the Web Today - February 26, 2003": **************** For Want of a Nail http://www.austin360.com/aas/news/ap/ap_story.html/National/AP.V6324.AP-Mobi le-Gator.html Ever have one of those days when nothing goes right? Wait till you hear Leslie Strickland's tale of woe. The 49-year-old Port Charlotte, Fla., woman hit an alligator with her car on Friday night. Stricken with guilt, she went back the next day to rescue the critter. She put it in her car, drove it home, watered it down with a hose, and phoned the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, which was closed for the weekend. Strickland's neighbors pointed out to her that it's illegal to possess an alligator, so "she loaded it in the car again and drove off in search of a pond to release it." In the back seat it "started to thrash its tail." A distracted Strickland ran off the road and hit a mailbox. She tried to drive off, but her car got stuck in a ditch. So she walked home. Police showed up at Strickland's home to arrest her, "adding a charge of resisting arrest after she struggled with officers who tried to handcuff her." She ended up spending a night in jail. Oh, and the alligator died. **************** Cheers, Gerry From bens Wed Feb 26 14:07:52 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QJ7qx25911 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:07:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:07:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200302261907.h1QJ7qU25907@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I sure hope I'm not jinxing myself - but....... The GDE passed smog this morning and for all practical purposes it is driveable. I had an interesting smog experience - the first time I took it in it would not pass HC at idle - read 180ppm (120 max allowed). Everything else was within average emmissions range. This drove me nuts for several days as I checked for vacuum leaks and fiddled with the base idle - no luck. Of course every smog shop I called instantly said I needed new cats or O2 sensors. I finally broke down - went against all my moral grain and visited the local European car mechanic (Porsche, VW, Jag & Rover) to beg for help. The friendly proprietor (who obviously prefers working on the German cars) solved the problem instantly.......I visited the smog shop this morning and passed idle at 60ppm HC. The fix was to turn the headlights on during the test! -Mo From bens Wed Feb 26 15:35:36 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QKZat26547 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:35:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:35:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262035.h1QKZZ526543@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Dick Lague" To: Subject: RE: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 31 lines filtered. ] What??!! From bens Wed Feb 26 15:36:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QKaFt26565 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:36:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:36:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262036.h1QKaEF26561@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, as Joe is off in Sac, I went ahead and bought the LWB (What are these puppies selling for? I finegled it for $2200.00! yes, i'm good!) ;-) I have one thing to say about air suspension! DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DRIVE FAR ON THE BUMPSTOPS! ;-( It was fine cruising on the highway.....until I hit the dip/bump they have as you go over an overpass! ;-( Patti was following me with their son Mack, and she said he was howling with laughter watching my head bobble around...I 'd swear I caught air on one! it scared the crap outa me, and I wasn't really puching it. Itr runs great! but will need some other work besides teh suspension, the usual electrical crap inside with power door-locks, windows and seats....but the sunroof operates wonderfully! ;-) so....We're looking for some coiler springs. I understand that w/o teh boge leveler unit in back it needs disco springs, so anyone with stock disco springs or spare OME or heavy duty rover springs to sell cheap, give me a holler! we'd like to be able to spring it on saturday of possible! (yeah! it's gonna be a busy day, as i want to install an engine in one/two of the vanagons as well, and maybe even pull the engine on the '73 midget to tighten the clutch pressure plate bolts the p/o's mechanic didn't torque down so it can become my daily driver...maybe busy all sunday too? ;-0 Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Feb 26 15:39:57 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QKdvl26606 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:39:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:39:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262039.h1QKdvi26602@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Hannaford, Morgan wrote: > The fix was to turn the headlights on during the test! > > -Mo so, presumably, the light leaking out of the headlights put a drain on the system, causing the alternator to engage? Did idle speed increase? Did the computer adjust the air mixture because the alternator kicked on? cheers, john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Wed Feb 26 15:40:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QKe8q26628 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:40:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262040.h1QKe8H26624@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ".....The fix was to turn the headlights on during the test!...." More please! -Dave G. From bens Wed Feb 26 16:01:26 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QL1QW26887 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:01:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:01:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262101.h1QL1Pv26883@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Squish force Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >What sort of fancy device could be used to apply a force to >an isolated >mouse lens and measure the change in diameter as a function >of force. An Instron may be too coarse for measuring the small forces involved. Maybe a galucoma testing device which measures surface pressure on the eye could be adapted to what you need. Is there an opthamolgy department at the medical school there? They may be able to help. Karen Sindir (recent eye test because of strain of using dual monitors at work). From bens Wed Feb 26 16:44:08 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QLi8727193 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:44:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:44:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262144.h1QLi8t27189@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Whitbeck To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 45 lines filtered. ] I've got a set of stock Disco springs that you can have for free. Just come by and get 'em (in Orinda). Peter ************** Peter Whitbeck Peter@RailCarAmerica.com From bens Wed Feb 26 16:50:12 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QLoC327245 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262150.h1QLoCm27241@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Polla Slade" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, Get it to Vegas and we can do the whole swap here, springs shocks everything. Inflate those bags with a schraeder valve, get it riding smoothly and take her for a spin. Alternatively you could stuff some rubber wheel chocks between the axle and the frame and zip-tie them in there. At least it'd give you a little more 'spring' until you could get the coils. I have some OME MD's and Rancho shocks on the '90 (the one with the 4.2 remember!), that would go CHEAP, but I would want some help getting it all out. I also have some NEW front Black Diamond (WARN) shocks and some new OME front shocks as well as a smattering of stock LR coil springs. Later, Michael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bens Wed Feb 26 17:04:29 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QM4Te27358 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:04:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:04:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262204.h1QM4Tu27354@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: Robin Williams Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 39 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" I pulled up next to Robin, while in my D130, he in his, er....Mercedes = thingy-off-road machine...being on the right side of the car, and right = next to his rolled-down window, I asked him what happened to his D110, = and he said he has it and still loves it. I said he has been spotted = around town , Tahoe, bike shops in Marin, etc...he said he loves seeing = other LRs on the road (that makes him human in my book) He had some nice = things to say about Columbus.. About three blocks of slow rolling conversation later (with the = obligatory honking from behind) I invited him to Mendo, and he took my = e-mail..who knows..we could end having more than the usual laughter = around the campfire. I asked why he was driving that ugly piece of c**p, = and he said some schmuck gave it to him, so he felt obligated.. cool guy From bens Wed Feb 26 17:21:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QMLY327473 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:21:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:21:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262221.h1QMLYf27469@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Robin Williams Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Daniel Oppenheim wrote: > I invited him to Mendo, and he took my > e-mail..who knows..we could end having more than the > usual laughter around the campfire. ooooh! Now THAT would be an added bonus! Cool! Hope he really thinks about it. i understand from friends who have met him over the years, that he really is a cool personable guy. Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Feb 26 17:46:58 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QMkws27659 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:46:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:46:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262246.h1QMkw127655@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bruce Grove To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Robin Williams Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Daniel Oppenheim wrote: > > and he said he has it and still loves it. I said he has been spotted = > around town , Tahoe, bike shops in Marin, etc...he said he loves seeing = He always spends President's day week up in Tahoe skiing at Alpine, which is where he was last week, which is where I was last week going coo, that's Robin Williams :-) > > cool guy Yup, Bruce From bens Wed Feb 26 18:33:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QNXcB28148 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:33:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:33:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262333.h1QNXbr28144@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: Subject: Re: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul, try Charles, he ended up with my spring collection TomW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! > so....We're looking for some coiler springs. I understand > that w/o teh boge leveler unit in back it needs disco > springs, so anyone with stock disco springs or spare OME or > heavy duty rover springs to sell cheap, give me a holler! > we'd like to be able to spring it on saturday of possible! > Paul > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 26 18:54:01 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1QNs1128268 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:54:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200302262354.h1QNs1928264@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Inflate those bags with a schraeder valve, get it riding smoothly and > take > her for a spin. Or if the problem is just bag air bags BP sells replacement air bags. TeriAnn 1960 Land Rover 109 Dormobile conversion "The Green Rover" owned for 25 years The new car: 1961 Triumph TR3A only owned for only 17 years From bens Wed Feb 26 19:03:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1R03AW28333 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:03:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:03:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302270003.h1R039e28329@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LWB is safe in Fremont! Looking for coiler springs! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > > > Inflate those bags with a schraeder valve, get it > riding smoothly and > > take > > her for a spin. > > Or if the problem is just bag air bags BP sells > replacement air bags. Yeah! I know...but at what cost? With the need to get the computer re-set at the dealer at some $$ in the hundreds, each time we think we hae it solved?, I'm not sure if it's worth it! Joe will be pretty happy with coils, but ya never know...the poor guy hasn't even seen a photo of it yet! ;-0 he just asked me what colour it is! ;-) (oh! it's black!) Paul __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Feb 27 01:49:45 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1R6njs31971 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:49:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200302270649.h1R6njG31967@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Rick Larson" To: Subject: RE: Alloy wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 20 lines filtered. ] Yeah, but they are a bit beat up. -Rick From bens Thu Feb 27 05:13:33 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RADXB00537 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:13:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:13:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302271013.h1RADXv00533@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Scott Bronson" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RR Seat Switch experiment pics Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I promised some folks that I'd take some pics of my seat switch experiment and post them. http://www.rinspin.com/~bronson/spike/seatswitch/pics.html John (or anybody else), if you'd like to post this on your site, would you mind mirroring it instead of linking it? Right now it's at the far side of a rather narrow DSL line. We're six months in and still not a degree of failure. Normally I would have lost at least one degree of motion by now. In another six months, if I still have full motion, I'll declare the experiment a success. OK, back to lurking... - Scott From bens Thu Feb 27 11:42:27 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RGgRL05345 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:42:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:42:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200302271642.h1RGgRt05341@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Seems like a good one Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If I had any money I'd bid on this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404211129 &category=6296 -Rob From bens Thu Feb 27 15:35:11 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RKZBw07915 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:35:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:35:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200302272035.h1RKZB407911@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Re::RR Master Cylinder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I found a MC/booster for my truck from a junk yard for $500 with a 6 month warrantee. Unless I find a new one for under $1200, I'll probably go for it. The other thought is to go to this junk yard and buy a truck:) -Rob From bens Thu Feb 27 16:33:10 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RLXAx08390 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:33:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:33:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200302272133.h1RLX9308386@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hannaford, Morgan" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Smog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I thought I would see if this was a widely known trick or not.... The mechanic explained that this was a common problem with VW and Audi cars....2 years old and they would be too high HC at idle, but all else was normal. The theory goes that the engine does not need to work hard to maintain idle because of flywheel/torque converter, ancilliaries etc. keeping momentum. The ECU adjusts idle speed based on load - and with no load partial misfires or incomplete combustion is more frequent. When switching on the lights - or rear defroster - or heater blower a load is put on the alternator and the engine has to work a little harder to maintain idle rpm. The rpm was the same (~711 rpm) before and after, but the HC dropped from 180ppm to 60ppm within 30 seconds. The tip did not come from a smog-shop by the way......all the smog shops were convinced I needed new cats (of course). BTW - those of you interested in privacy issues should check out the State of California DMV website. You can enter the license# or VIN of any CA vehicle and download its smog history. ALWAYS GET A PRE-TEST (sniff) BEFORE YOU SMOG TEST. Once your car is a "gross polluter" you can never go back. You can also download the limits for your model year and GVW - in case the smog shop claims they don't know what will pass until it is dialed into DMV (which my shop did). -Mo From bens Thu Feb 27 16:54:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RLsYR08597 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:54:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:54:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200302272154.h1RLsX008593@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Liquid cooled ALternator Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I saw this posted on the RR BBS and it looks like a great option for offroading!!! http://www.boschusa.com/AutoOrigEquip/Electrical/CooledAlternator/ -Rob From bens Thu Feb 27 17:00:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RM0ED08657 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:00:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:00:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302272200.h1RM0Da08653@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: :RR Master Cylinder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Have you looked on Ebay? I got one on there from a guy who was dismantling a rolled RR and he sold me the ABS Pump booster for $200? Mark "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > I found a MC/booster for my truck from a junk yard for $500 with a 6 > month warrantee. Unless I find a new one for under $1200, I'll probably > go for it. The other thought is to go to this junk yard and buy a > truck:) > > -Rob From bens Thu Feb 27 18:04:55 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1RN4tw09119 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:04:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:04:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200302272304.h1RN4ti09115@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Re: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "The fix was to turn the headlights on during the test!" Which means the tech didnt do the test properly since all loads are supposed to be off when running the emissions portion of the test :) Jeremy From bens Thu Feb 27 22:54:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1S3sNv10760 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:54:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:54:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200302280354.h1S3sNo10756@minbar.fourfold.org> From: rally3@netzero.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Smog Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It is a trick we stumbled across while trying to get VW Vanagon's to pass smog (not always an easy task) Later Aidan From bens Fri Feb 28 03:18:56 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1S8IuP13479 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:18:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:18:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200302280818.h1S8Iup13475@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: GDE lives Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Which means the tech didnt do the test properly since all loads are > supposed to be off when running the emissions portion of the test :) Hmm, then a more subtle trick would be to lock on the power-hogging front and rear windscreen defoggers, without making it appear that the switches are on... Granny From bens Fri Feb 28 06:23:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SBNce14403 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:23:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:23:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302281123.h1SBNbD14399@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Hello.. introduction. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, I just wanted to say Hi to everyone, as I recently stumbled onto this list. I moved to the bay area not too long ago and have been looking for some Rovering. I still have not retrieved my '67 109 SIIA from home (Arkansas) where it still sits in suspended animation. (Kinda like it did when I tried to use it daily.) I now own a D90 and am eagerly looking forward to hooking up with the local Rover club or some other activities around the area to see what my newly acquired truck can do. Anyone who has any suggestions as to upcoming bay area events that are Rover related please let me know! I am quite excited to be in an area that has so many interesting vehicles running around. I've already seen a couple of D110s and a totally amazing D130 along with quite a few D90s and a nice XD Disco just a few days ago in Berkeley. Hope I didn't break list etiquette with the hello. I am currently on the digest version of the list so replies may lag. Be safe all and thanks in advance! -Marshall Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 2/18/2003 From bens Fri Feb 28 10:53:34 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SFrYP16137 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:53:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:53:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302281553.h1SFrYW16133@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Hello.. introduction. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Welcome Marshall, List Etiquette. HAHAHA. The list is monitored by the Mewgull Grammatical content spell checker, so you'll know when you have made any errors:) -Rob Kerner From bens Fri Feb 28 12:44:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SHihQ16876 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:44:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:44:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302281744.h1SHih916872@minbar.fourfold.org> From: jarrod wyrick To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hello.. introduction. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 82 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-2--578106877 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello Marshall, Welcome! Here is a link to the northern california rover club calendar < http://www.norcalrover.org/calendar/cal_all.html >. Take care, Jarrod On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 03:23 AM, Crocuta wrote: > > > Hello, > I just wanted to say Hi to everyone, as I recently stumbled onto this > list. > I moved to the bay area not too long ago and have been looking for some > Rovering. I still have not retrieved my '67 109 SIIA from home > (Arkansas) > where it still sits in suspended animation. (Kinda like it did when I [ 28 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Annette --Apple-Mail-2--578106877 From bens Fri Feb 28 16:47:43 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SLlhL18669 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:47:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:47:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200302282147.h1SLlhM18665@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jon Turner" To: "Mendo Recce" Subject: NCRC Trip - Death Valley 3/21-3/23 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay, I've finally got my act together for this one. Details at: http://pugslyyy.home.attbi.com/ncrc.htm and soon to be on the NCRC board. Should be a fun romp through DV, hope to see you there! Jon From bens Fri Feb 28 17:13:38 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SMDcB18927 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:13:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:13:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200302282213.h1SMDbT18923@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Daniel Oppenheim" To: Subject: hoop set for exchange Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 33 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I have a hoop set for a full length 88" or 109" (extra middle hoop). I = even have the much sought tiger's paw for the front windscreen, and the = gutters for over the doors. What I need is a 3/4 hoop set for an 88" pick-up. The unique feature is = that the forward-most hoop of the two does not slip down into a hole, = but rather bolts to the galv. tub capping. Anybody have that hoop, or a possible lead for either that one and/or a = full set? Thanks, Daniel From bens Fri Feb 28 17:58:15 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SMwFU19225 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:58:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:58:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200302282258.h1SMwFA19221@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Trip - Death Valley 3/21-3/23 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jon, Sorryu to be a pain in the arse, but is it possible to join up halfway, because I work Saturdays. I amnear Tahoe and so could come down 395 from the north? Kind regards, Mark Pilkington. Jon Turner wrote: > Okay, I've finally got my act together for this one. > > Details at: http://pugslyyy.home.attbi.com/ncrc.htm and soon to be on the > NCRC board. > > Should be a fun romp through DV, hope to see you there! > > Jon From bens Fri Feb 28 18:21:49 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SNLn219439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:21:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:21:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200302282321.h1SNLnf19435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "jcsf" To: mendo_recce Subject: try try again ... shtuff for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ This was initially filtered since "jcsf@sbcglobal.net" isn't on the list. but I see that is an alternet email address for jeanne@alum.mit.edu. Alternate address added to the permitted senders list. -Ben ] hi everyone ... sorry if this is a double post but i didn't see it in yesterday's digest ... anyone interested in the following? if so, pls email me off line. thx. - - tan waterproof seat covers (front, rear) (genuine LR) for DSII - - thule roof rack (2 cross bars w 6 pr ski adapter + double surfboard carrier) - - warn 9000 winch + accesories (snatch block, chain, tree strap) * have a potential buyer but you never know ... - - DSII service manual - - DSII parts catalogue - - OME med duty shocks/springs (4 of each)(not new) - - lots of other random shit (like quarts of oil (actually these are free), new oil filter, shackles, tow straps etc etc; if you want to see the full list, let me know off line) all prices negotiable. thanks, jeanne =========================== jeanne chung 415-812-4864 san francisco 65-9891-5864 singapore jeanne@alum.mit.edu =========================== From bens Fri Feb 28 18:50:14 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h1SNoE819761 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:50:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:50:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200302282350.h1SNoD719757@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mark Pilkington To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: try try again ... shtuff for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org How much for the winch? jcsf wrote: > [ This was initially filtered since "jcsf@sbcglobal.net" isn't on the list. > but I see that is an alternet email address for jeanne@alum.mit.edu. > Alternate address added to the permitted senders list. -Ben ] > > hi everyone ... sorry if this is a double post but i didn't see it in > yesterday's digest ... > > anyone interested in the following? if so, pls email me off line. thx. > [ 23 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 28 19:27:58 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h210RwN20166 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200303010027.h210RwQ20162@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Nancy Hart To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Trip - Death Valley 3/21-3/23 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh I am so bummed!! Jon, this looks like a perfect trip you've worked out but I have to be in San Luis Obispo on that Sat for a good friend's wedding. -Nancy nancyehart@mac.com '97 blued90 #0047 On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 01:47 PM, Jon Turner wrote: > > Okay, I've finally got my act together for this one. > > Details at: http://pugslyyy.home.attbi.com/ncrc.htm and soon to be on > the > NCRC board. > > Should be a fun romp through DV, hope to see you there! > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 28 22:01:44 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h2131iN20919 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:01:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:01:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200303010301.h2131iH20915@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: [Fwd: BRC Alert - Send Letter to BLM Asking for Access in King Range Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ message/rfc822 ] [ 52 lines filtered. ] --------------752A3F7EFCFD1C4E4A203D32 This is the "Lost Coast" in southern Humbolt county. Granville can better describe what used to be available for vehicular recreation. Please help support Multiple Use. Bruce Bonar NCRC Public Affairs Officer From: Don Amador To: Don Amador Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: BRC Alert - Send Letter to BLM Asking for Access in King Range Planning Process > > > ASK BLM TO SUPPORT MULTIPLE-USE IN KING RANGE > > Dear Subscriber: > > Currently, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is in the process of > creating a new vision for the management of the King Range National > Conservation Area. In the early 1970s, Congress created this 60,000 acre > region that was based on traditional multiple-use with access for all > trail groups. > > Since then, the BLM has gradually restricted responsible off-highway > vehicle (OHV) recreation from the many existing roads and trails that > were historic access routes to a point where they banned all OHV use in > 2000 on Black Sands Beach. > > Because the State of California only recognizes about 7 miles of OHV > sand based recreation on 1,100 miles of state coastline, it is important > that the BLM consider reopening a portion of the King Range to historic > motorized access. > > To send a comment letter today, visit the BlueRibbon Coaliiton's Rapid > Response Center at... > > http://capwiz.com/share/issues/alert/?alertid=1546671 > > Thanks you for your support! > > Don Amador > Western Representative > BlueRibbon Coalition, Inc. [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --------------752A3F7EFCFD1C4E4A203D32 charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-pstn-levels: (C:81.6251 M:99.8514 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:63.6633 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) X-pstn-addresses: from X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Amador To: Don Amador Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: BRC Alert - Send Letter to BLM Asking for Access in King Range Planning Process > > > ASK BLM TO SUPPORT MULTIPLE-USE IN KING RANGE > > Dear Subscriber: > > Currently, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is in the process of > creating a new vision for the management of the King Range National > Conservation Area. In the early 1970s, Congress created this 60,000 acre [ 28 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --------------752A3F7EFCFD1C4E4A203D32-- From bens Fri Feb 28 22:45:30 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h213jU621174 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:45:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:45:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200303010345.h213jTB21170@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "jon-turner" To: "Mendo Recce" Subject: NCRC Trip - Death Valley 3/21-3/23 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay, I've finally got my act together for this one. Details at: http://pugslyyy.home.attbi.com/ncrc.htm and soon to be on the NCRC board. Should be a fun romp through DV, hope to see you there! Jon