From bens Tue Feb 1 01:23:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j116Nka9015234 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 01:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j116Nk1u015233 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 01:23:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 01:23:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200502010623.j116NjTH015229@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Kevin's garage cabinets...was RE: RR LWB No Go Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin, there are used office/shop furniture places everywhere! My dad got his in Santa Rosa, but I'm sure ther has to be one in SF If not, I will check out prices in Santa Rosa if I can as I will be working there from Friday until the next saturday running his flight school while they are on a cruise....and may have time to stop by the place if I can remember where it is. Paul --- Kevin Kelly wrote: > >Hmm! makes sense, as they make a kit to solid-mount said > > gun cabinet to the concrete floor! > > By the way my dad paid $250 for a USED metal cabinet!! > for > > the Dragonfly hanger a few years ago! damn high price! > our tax money). I would love to find a place in the Bay > Area that sells > decent used stuff for a good price. I would have no > problem paying $250 for > a well made used cabinet (since that is about what it > costs for a low > quality new cabinet). From bens Tue Feb 1 02:11:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j117Boa9017294 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:11:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j117Bo1h017293 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:11:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:11:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200502010711.j117Bov0017289@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...now I'm cornfused: did I originally call it the 18th-20th, or the 19th-21st??? What works better for those planning on going??? Charles -----Original message----- From: "joshua fischer" jfischer160@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:07:11 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip > > Stu, > I believe the dates for the Mojave Trip are the 19th, 20th and 21st of Feb. > (Presidents' weekend). > > Josh > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 1 10:37:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11Fbea9005677 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:37:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11Fbeg3005676 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:37:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:37:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200502011537.j11Fbet8005672@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo list Subject: Cute Video Clip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is sooo good I just had to pass the URL along. I'm so relieved I wasn't sipping a cup of tea when I saw this. It would have been a major mess to clean up. TeriAnn >If you need some cheap entertainment, check out this link: > Just for fun, go to the attached site and click the Milwaukee pit > Stop Video http://home.nycap.rr.com/patroonbmw/DriversSchool.htm > Apparently, the clip requires the latest Media player from > Microsoft... it's a wmv file. From bens Tue Feb 1 11:46:48 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11Gkma9008557 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:46:48 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11Gkmpn008556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:46:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:46:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200502011646.j11Gklgp008552@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Cute Video Clip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I liked the "What NOT to do at Driver's School!!!" link better, but I saw those cars everywhere when I lived in Poland 20 years ago. I had forgotten how small they were. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:37:40 -0500, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 15:13:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11KD2a9017259 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:13:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11KD2Hc017258 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:13:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:13:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012013.j11KD28N017254@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: mojave road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What date? Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:22:13 -0500 From: "joshua fischer" Subject: RE: Quiet list the last few days... Charles, Is there a map I can get that has that area on it? Needles or just directions/address to the gas station/firework stand? Also did you want to shoot for Sat. morning at 8AM? My girlfriend, Melissa and I, will probably be arriving on Friday afternoon/evening, and either camping or getting a hotel........ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Tue Feb 1 15:58:56 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11Kwua9019227 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:58:56 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11KwuhI019226 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:58:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:58:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012058.j11KwuJ9019222@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So, to recap, the trip is set for President's Day weekend, Friday Feb. 18 - Monday Feb. 21, give or take a day? I'd like to camp Friday night, so if anyone else is interested, that would be great. I'll be driving down from the Bay Area, so if anyone would like to caravan, let me know. Stu From bens Tue Feb 1 16:21:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11LLxa9020309 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:21:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11LLxTQ020308 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:21:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:21:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012121.j11LLwtE020304@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Symptom: On startup, the engine rattles and the oil pressure light stays on for several seconds until the oil pressure builds up. This started about a week after my last oil change, which was three weeks ago. Would the combination of general wear and using too thin an oil cause this? Or a faulty anti-drainback valve? Or a worn oil pump? James From bens Tue Feb 1 16:31:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11LVna9020744 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:31:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11LVnch020743 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:31:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:31:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012131.j11LVnQc020739@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What brand of oil filter did you use? Did you change the "wt." of oil? >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 1:21 PM >>> Symptom: On startup, the engine rattles and the oil pressure light stays on for several seconds until the oil pressure builds up. This started about a week after my last oil change, which was three weeks ago. Would the combination of general wear and using too thin an oil cause this? Or a faulty anti-drainback valve? Or a worn oil pump? James From bens Tue Feb 1 16:57:22 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11LvMa9021842 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:57:22 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11LvMEV021841 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:57:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:57:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012157.j11LvMep021837@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Interesting that you mention this. We have just fitted an oil pressure guage in a Range Rover Classic because the oil light used to flicker after start-up. The guage read zero at idle and 22lbs at 2500 RPM. We thought it was something wrong with the guage. SO we drained the thin 5-20 oil that was reccommended and put in some good old 20-50 Castrol GTX and the pressure is 25 at idle and 55 at 2500 RPM. Also the light goes out instantly on another Rangie that we changed to 20-50 on. Never use Penzoil. Kind regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Johnson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Thin oil > > What brand of oil filter did you use? > > Did you change the "wt." of oil? > >>>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 1:21 PM >>> > > Symptom: On startup, the engine rattles and the oil pressure light > stays on for several seconds until the oil pressure builds up. This [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 1 17:14:52 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11MEqa9022543 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:14:52 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11MEp0R022542 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:14:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:14:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012214.j11MEppJ022538@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Since I still do not have facilities at my home to work on cars (the carport is full of boxes from moving), I took it to a place to have ti done. They used a Pennzoil filter. I have since learned that the Pennzoil is the same as a Fram, and is therefore junk. According to the sticker on my windshield, they put in 10W-30 despite my requesting 20W-50. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:31:49 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 17:28:43 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11MSha9023202 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11MShLL023201 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012228.j11MShKM023197@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From what I've read from various websites and postings, and my own experience tearing down my V-8, the Rover V-8 is a real sludge factory. I'd only run synthetics, unless the engine is a pile and you're close to doing a rebuild. Mobil 1 0-40 synth. seems to be the best Mobil synthetic for the Rover V-8. Mobil 1 0-30 used to be the oil of choice, but it seems the base stock for Mobil 1 0-40 is superior. Can't go wrong with Amsoil, either. Yeah, never use Penzoil. >>> mark@skywagons.com 02/01/05 1:57 PM >>> Interesting that you mention this. We have just fitted an oil pressure guage in a Range Rover Classic because the oil light used to flicker after start-up. The guage read zero at idle and 22lbs at 2500 RPM. We thought it was something wrong with the guage. SO we drained the thin 5-20 oil that was reccommended and put in some good old 20-50 Castrol GTX and the pressure is 25 at idle and 55 at 2500 RPM. Also the light goes out instantly on another Rangie that we changed to 20-50 on. Never use Penzoil. Kind regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Johnson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Thin oil > > What brand of oil filter did you use? > > Did you change the "wt." of oil? > >>>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 1:21 PM >>> > > Symptom: On startup, the engine rattles and the oil pressure light > stays on for several seconds until the oil pressure builds up. This [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 1 17:41:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11MfCa9023835 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:41:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11MfCnx023834 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:41:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:41:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012241.j11MfB4F023830@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OMG, Heavens to Murgatroid! ( What, or who, in fact, is a "mergatroid"?) You are correct...Pennzoil and Quaker State filters are made by Fram. All three suck and should be avoided at all costs. Can you get Baldwin filters? They are used on Ferrari. A& M Motor Supply in L.G. carries them. Baldwin also makes Amsoil filters. Pureolator Pure One has an excellent filtering element. Pureolator also makes Motorcraft. >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 2:14 PM >>> Since I still do not have facilities at my home to work on cars (the carport is full of boxes from moving), I took it to a place to have ti done. They used a Pennzoil filter. I have since learned that the Pennzoil is the same as a Fram, and is therefore junk. According to the sticker on my windshield, they put in 10W-30 despite my requesting 20W-50. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:31:49 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 17:57:04 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11Mv4a9024474 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:04 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11Mv4YJ024473 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012257.j11Mv4wK024469@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: re: LWB= no go Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It will not start hot or cold. I replaced the fuel filter since it had been a while, and verified the fuel pump was definitely pumping. I am going to put a new cap, rotor, and coil on to see what that does. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 1 17:57:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11Mvka9024489 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11MvkRD024488 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012257.j11MvjNw024484@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Daniel E. Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James, Is this a 2.25? That oil should not change the pressure that much, but the sender could be the problem. Are you using a pressure gauge as well? I just went through something like this. My light would flicker at low revs, then it would flicker all the time, then it went on and stayed that way. I changed the pump...my gauge shot up, but the light stayed on. New sender fixed it up. If it is the 2.25 then use SAE 30. With the spacing and expanding due to heat the SAE 30 is the stuff you want. Use the natural stuff too. Daniel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Tue Feb 1 17:58:33 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11MwXa9024502 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:58:33 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11MwXpa024501 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:58:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:58:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012258.j11MwWvB024497@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It was Mobil 1 10W-30 that was used, along with the crappy Pennzoil filter. I have never seen Mobil1 0W-40 in any of the local stores. I usually use the 15W-50, though. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 18:01:23 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11N1Na9024720 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:01:23 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11N1NPv024719 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:01:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012301.j11N1NZY024715@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is for the 4.2 liter Rover V8. Although if I happen to see a Series truck for sale in Tucson soon, I might just buy it. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:45 -0500, Daniel E. Smith wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 18:10:48 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11NAma9025160 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:10:48 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11NAmkm025159 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:10:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:10:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012310.j11NAl9i025155@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Very intersting , Watson. Sounds like the anti drain back valve may have failed. I'd get a new - proper - filter, then see what happens. If you've been using 10W-30 synth. all along, and suddenly oil pressure becomes an issue at start-up, it points to the anti drain valve. Of which Fram has the worst, cheapest, cheesiest. >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 2:58 PM >>> It was Mobil 1 10W-30 that was used, along with the crappy Pennzoil filter. I have never seen Mobil1 0W-40 in any of the local stores. I usually use the 15W-50, though. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 18:13:39 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11NDda9025185 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:39 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11NDd4c025184 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:13:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012313.j11NDd2A025180@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 3:01 PM >>> This is for the 4.2 liter Rover V8. Although if I happen to see a Series truck for sale in Tucson soon, I might just buy it. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:45 -0500, Daniel E. Smith wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 18:26:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j11NQna9025819 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:26:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j11NQn5Z025818 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:26:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:26:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200502012326.j11NQm09025814@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, I've decided to sell my '62 88 IIA w/ tropical roof. It was painted Land Rover "Sand" two years ago. Has the Robert Davis 3.0L Mercruiser, his early version. Series 3 synchro box, Ashcroft Overdrive transfer case (both rebuilt and assembled by BCB - Cooper did the T-Case, Matt did the gearbox - it doesn't leak) Cruises between 65 - 70. D90 cloth seats. I did a frame up resto over the last 3/4 years, so just about every nut, washer and screw are new. Rewired with a Centech wiring kit, similar to Painless. Plenty of fuses. Has original Ramsey winch. Has the heavy duty heater and 3 speed blower. I'm around if you want to know more. >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/01/05 3:01 PM >>> This is for the 4.2 liter Rover V8. Although if I happen to see a Series truck for sale in Tucson soon, I might just buy it. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:57:45 -0500, Daniel E. Smith wrote: From bens Tue Feb 1 19:33:08 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j120X8a9028779 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:33:08 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j120X8FD028778 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:33:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:33:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020033.j120X8aw028774@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, I had thought you said, the 19th - 21st. I could be mistaken. I must have figured that Monday is a Holiday for most. And assumed that it was for you as well. These dates would work better for me though. I wouldn't miss much work (actually, I wouldn't miss it at all. Ha Ha Ha!). Let me know if that works for you. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bens Tue Feb 1 19:36:09 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j120a9a9029004 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:09 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j120a9uD029003 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020036.j120a8wV028999@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stu, I think Melissa and I are planning on driving down sometime Friday afternoon or Friday night. If you are planning on driving down then, maybe we can meet up somewhere and caravan. My parents are planning on going in their Disco but, they might leave a day or two earlier. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bens Tue Feb 1 19:36:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j120ata9029019 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j120atYj029018 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:36:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020036.j120atf0029014@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What are you asking for this beauty and any digitals. I've got too many myself, but sure others are asking these questions. --- Eric Johnson wrote: > > > Well, I've decided to sell my '62 88 IIA w/ > tropical roof. It was > painted Land Rover "Sand" two years ago. Has the > Robert Davis 3.0L > Mercruiser, his early version. Series 3 synchro box, > Ashcroft Overdrive > transfer case (both rebuilt and assembled by BCB - [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Tue Feb 1 20:01:01 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j12111a9030108 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:01:01 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j12111vo030107 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:01:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:01:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020101.j12110x8030101@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, why? ...and how much? I am always bumping into people interested in a nice 88" sad to see such a nice rig go away...hope someone in CA buys it to keep it around. Paul --- Eric Johnson wrote: > > > Well, I've decided to sell my '62 88 IIA w/ tropical > roof. It was > painted Land Rover "Sand" two years ago. Has the Robert > Davis 3.0L > Mercruiser, his early version. Series 3 synchro box, > Ashcroft Overdrive > transfer case (both rebuilt and assembled by BCB - Cooper [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 1 21:29:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j122TPa9001294 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:29:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j122TPVh001293 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:29:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:29:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020229.j122TPjf001289@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, I was wondering about BBQ's and campfires. Are they allowed? Do we have to get a permit? Also could we move the meeting time back to about 10 ish? Or I could try to meet up with everyone along the trail, but would rather start from the beginning since I have never been in the area. I will probably be driving down friday night. It is about a nine hour drive for me. After that drive, 8 AM sounds pretty bad. I hope I'm not asking too much. Let me know. Thanks again. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bens Tue Feb 1 22:03:47 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1233la9002836 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:03:47 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1233lDK002835 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:03:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:03:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020303.j1233kX2002831@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi James- It sounds like your pressure relief valve is sticking. Even if you put a plugged old filter on there (which I'm assuming you didn't!), the bypass valve would do exactly that - bypass the oil filter. Weak oil pressure is caused by excessive clearance between mechanical parts (i.e. the pump can't keep up with the volume of leaking oil past bearings, etc.), a sticking pressure relief valve, a pump with excessive clearance so that it can't come up to pressure, or a faulty pressure sending unit! You can easily put on a mechanical gauge where the sending unit is and get a 'real' reading to first see if the problem is real or a $7 part. Fortunately, the oil pump rebuild on a Rover V-8 (at least classic - haven't looked at a newer timing cover / pump) is very simple as the pump is external (like the old Saab 99 engines). Seems if someone wanted to make these reliable, the would bore the pump body and press in a bronze (or S.Steel) bushing. Sigh. Reminds me of the Vega and Briggs & Stratton engines! Hope this helps. Take care, Kelly Minnick (with almost a larger Mog engine in place!) > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:21:58 -0500 > From: James Howard > Subject: Thin oil > > Symptom: On startup, the engine rattles and the oil pressure light > stays on for several seconds until the oil pressure builds up. This > started about a week after my last oil change, which was three weeks > ago. > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 1 22:36:09 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j123a9a9004307 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:36:09 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j123a9kg004306 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:36:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:36:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020336.j123a82M004302@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: mojave road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, Apparently there is a discrepancy in the date. I thought it was the 19th thru the 21st. Charles thinks it is the 18th thru the 20th. I am hoping that it works out the 19th thru the 21st for the holiday weekend. Because that is the only time off of work I can get. Let us know what you think. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From bens Tue Feb 1 23:06:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j12460a9005581 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:06:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j12460Ea005580 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:06:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:06:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020406.j12460e7005576@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Cliff Watts" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK. Which one of you guys has the red/white roof D110 crew cab? Waiting at traffic light on Bear Creek Road at Camino Pablo/San Pablo Dam Rd, just north of Orinda. Tonight 5.55PM. Spotted while cruising towards Richmond in White Cortina. ------------------------------------ Cliff Watts ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! From bens Wed Feb 2 00:18:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125Ina9009834 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:18:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125Inpw009833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:18:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:18:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020518.j125Imqw009829@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Gearbox removal Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Today I had one of those small victories that one celebrates when fighting with a 40 year old Land Rover. I am removing my gearbox and T-case to send it out for rebuild. I started taking it out before Christmas but when it came time to pull the clevis pin that holds the clutch bell crank shaft into the bellhousing, it would not budge. I decided to wait it out by occasionally going into the garage, heating it up with the propane torch, and squirting it with PB Blaster. Today I decided to pull the pin. Even after many applications of PB Blaster over many weeks, the pin would still not budge. Hammering, Vise Grips, heat, nothing worked. ARRRGH! Finally I took a socket extension bar on its end and put it between the pin and a floor jack, then gently forced it against the pin. It was lifting the engine and gearbox but would still not push the pin loose. Frustrated, I struck the bellcrank shaft downwards with a hammer- one good whack! And the pin popped loose. Hah! Take that you miserable old bucket of bolts... Mo Patrykus 64 109 From bens Wed Feb 2 00:19:22 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125JMa9009847 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:19:22 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125JMFl009846 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:19:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:19:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020519.j125JMB9009842@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, campfires are fine, and BBQ's - to my knowledge based on previous Mojave Roads - should be okay too, so long as embers aren't flying all over the desert. Starting time: Again, I'm flexible here too. Generally, we camp for two nights, but can wind it down to one night depending on the pace that everybody wants to move at. However, since several of you are going to be there for the first time, I'd expect that you'd want to "take a look around", and will move at a more casual pace. All I really need to know is definately when we're starting, so that I know when to drive out to Laughlin. (I used to stay in Needles, but Laughlin is more fun) As for the date: I think I'm the only person here that lives with my boss(!), so I'm flexible as to what day we start (she still sez that she can't go this year: maybe if I take Gillian this time...)...what's better for everybody else??? What I WOULD reccomend, is that people that are coming down for the first time & would like to get maps, that they should hit the Barstow BLM office on Friday if at all possible...I'm not certain if I'm heading in that area anytime soon, so I can't promise that I could get extras in advance of the trip. (sorry) The Bakersfield office has a few for that area, but they generally stop @ Edwards AFB, and let Barstow cover the rest of the area east of there. (NOTE: there seems to be lotsa new people on the list these days, so I guess I had better 'splain that Gillian is the "fast-attack" 109 diesel P/U...2.25 N/A, no overdrive, and can do 70mph!) For those that are GPS-enhanced, I believe that Ben has a file hidden away somewhere at fourfold.org that has coordinates for the starting point. Once again: titles for the BLM maps to have are... Davis Dam Ivanpah Soda Mountains Newberry Springs If you're looking for some good reading, there's the Mojave Road Guidebook, by Dennis Casebier (if anybody has the ISBN on that please post it, as I don't have my copy handy - it's in one of the trucks!) Charles -----Original message----- From: "joshua fischer" jfischer160@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:29:25 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip > > Charles, > I was wondering about BBQ's and campfires. Are they allowed? Do we have to > get a permit? Also could we move the meeting time back to about 10 ish? Or > I could try to meet up with everyone along the trail, but would rather start > from the beginning since I have never been in the area. I will probably be > driving down friday night. It is about a nine hour drive for me. After > that drive, 8 AM sounds pretty bad. I hope I'm not asking too much. Let me > know. Thanks again. [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 2 00:22:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125M7a9010065 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:22:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125M6mu010064 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:22:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:22:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020522.j125M3wn010060@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not quite as interesting as a D110 Crewcab, but: Highway 65 between Woodlake and Exeter last weekend - dark blue Mk. I Cooper S Highway 14 in Mojave on Sunday morning - white Ferrari Mondial Cabriolet Charles -----Original message----- From: "Cliff Watts" r-9@juno.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:06:00 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sighting > > > OK. Which one of you guys has the red/white roof D110 crew cab? > Waiting at traffic light on Bear Creek Road at Camino Pablo/San Pablo Dam Rd, just north of Orinda. Tonight 5.55PM. > Spotted while cruising towards Richmond in White Cortina. > > ------------------------------------ > Cliff Watts > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 2 00:26:06 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125Q6a9010301 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:26:06 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125Q6j2010300 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:26:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:26:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020526.j125Q6d6010296@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: re: LWB= no go Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rob, Didn't your initial post say that you took the cap off & the inside of the cap ( & also the rotor itself) were kinda messy & there was the appearance of tracking between them??? I'd presume that the rotor was arcing all over the place - as are probably the ignition wires too, if they haven't been replaced in a long time. The rotor arcing itself would keep the truck from starting once it got bad enough. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Kerner, Rob" Kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:57:04 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: re: LWB= no go > > It will not start hot or cold. I replaced the fuel filter since it had been a while, and verified the fuel pump was definitely pumping. I am going to put a new cap, rotor, and coil on to see what that does. > > -Rob > From bens Wed Feb 2 00:29:15 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125TFa9010317 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:29:15 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125TFGQ010316 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:29:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:29:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020529.j125TEcJ010312@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Gearbox removal Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hell, Mo... I was gonna suggest simply turning it with a pair of Vice Grips, because it probably has a couple of grooves worn into it! Replace BOTH pins, and also the tube that connects to both the shafts - these tend to break at the pin holes when finely aged. :) Charles -----Original message----- From: "mpatrykus" mpatrykus@netzero.net Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:18:49 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Gearbox removal > > Today I had one of those small victories that one celebrates when fighting > with a 40 year old Land Rover. > > I am removing my gearbox and T-case to send it out for rebuild. I started > taking it out before Christmas but when it came time to pull the clevis pin > that holds the clutch bell crank shaft into the bellhousing, it would not > budge. I decided to wait it out by occasionally going into the garage, > heating it up with the propane torch, and squirting it with PB Blaster. [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 2 00:47:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j125lPa9011450 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:47:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j125lP9p011449 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:47:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:47:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020547.j125lO6Y011445@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, Thanks again for all of the info. I think we are finally set for this trip. So, if we meet on Sat. morning, we would camp out Sat. night and again on Sun. night, correct? Or, will we be out of the dessert on Sunday? As for the "looking around," I would probably be O.K. and save some stuff to see the next time we go down there. Again I appreciate all of your help and patience with us newbies. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bens Wed Feb 2 01:16:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j126GPa9012705 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j126GPhZ012704 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:16:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:16:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020616.j126GPxO012700@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: crocuta@earthlink.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] Hello, No one on the list to my knowledge. He might have joined after I spoke to him however. I forget his name but he owns a contracting company, lives around Orinda, and that D110(130?) crew cab was for sale. He wanted around 60k for it if I remember correctly. He seemed like a really nice guy and like he would love to talk about the truck (at the time we were both in a hurry so I only spoke with him for a minute). That's all I know. -Marshall From bens Wed Feb 2 01:29:33 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j126TXa9013140 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:29:33 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j126TX8N013139 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:29:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:29:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020629.j126TX7N013135@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Taylor To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Squaw Sighting LR w/ Slovakia Stickers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] As I was leaving Squaw Valley on Sunday, in the parking lot near the Olympic Village area saw a Land Rover Disco II, Trek 2003 that was well kidded out and including Slovakia stickers on the back door. Are you an avid Squaw skier? Who are you? :) Taylor Pipes ---------------------------------------------------------------- In the depths of winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. ~ Albert Camus From bens Wed Feb 2 01:40:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j126exa9013773 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:40:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j126ex7D013772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:40:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:40:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502020640.j126ewNc013768@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Thin Oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James wrote: > Since I still do not have facilities at my home to work on > cars (the carport is full of boxes from moving), I took it to > a place to have it done. They used a Pennzoil filter. I have > since learned that the Pennzoil is the same as a Fram, and is > therefore junk. According to the sticker on my windshield, they > put in 10W-30 despite my requesting 20W-50. It sounds like James has an oil filter with a bad anti-drainback valve. For the Rover V8 I feel that the best oil filter is the OEM Land Rover filter (the filter is thesame for every NAS Buick/Land Rover V8 Engine). I buy mine mail order and get a discount when I order a half dozen at a time. Also most oil change places will often drain the engine and filter at the same time increasing the chance of the oil pump loosing its prime. See a couple posts I have saved from the RRO list for more info below: Kevin P.S. I run 10/40 year round in SF and and would run 20/50 year round if I lived in a warmer part of AZ... From: Richard Atkinson Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:33:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Oil filters... Okay, I'll bite... I posted this a couple of months ago, but here it is again: In selecting a replacement oil filter, there are a couple of points one should bear in mind. Oil filters made for automotive use are 3/4" x 16 inside thread, with a 2 1/2" diameter O-ring (Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler, and most imports, including Rover), 13/16" x 16 with 2 1/2" or 3 1/8" O-ring (Chevy small and big blocks, small block AMC, Buick, Cadillac, Olds and Pontiac V8s), 18mm x 1.5 with 2 1/2" O-ring (Buick, GM, Chevy V6s), and 20mm x 1.5 with either 2 1/2" or 3 1/8" O-ring (many Honda, Mazda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Opel). With a given thread and O-ring size, the major differences between filters and manufacturers are 1) the filtration medium, 2) overall dimensions, 3) antidrainback valve, and 4) overpressure valve. The first point is up to the filter manufacturers. The 'allowed' particle sizes and flow per unit area are usually found in comparison reports, but, to be acceptable to consumers and not to void manufacturers' warranties, I'd say there are very few 'bad' ones out there. Specifying the size of the filter is really up to the engine designers. A large capacity filter acts as an extra reservoir, as well as an additional cooler, but adds a couple of pounds cantilever weight to its attachment point. A smaller filter will clog faster for a given total flow so a compromise must be made here. A point to remember in an elderly(!) design like the Rover V8, is that the lubrication system relies on volume, rather than pressure. In fact, raising the pressure results in more 'co-lateral damage' to the pump drive parts, the timing chain, cogs, and cam and distributor drive gears specifically. The minimum allowable pressure for the V8 is usually taken to be 10psi per 1000 RPM. From this, you will appreciate that a larger filter, the size of the old FL1A/PH8A, should be better. However, remember that you don't want a huge cantilever on the pump mountings when you're hitting the big bumps while out 'wheelin'! So, there's your first compromise... The third point is VERY important to the Rover V8. Because the pump is mounted far remote from, and above the level of, the oil in the pan, air will 'break the vacuum' in a loose engine, and allow the oil to drain back through the pump. Most filters in use today have an antidrainback valve (it's the black, or reddish color, neoprene or silicone flap under the ring of filter inlet holes - they're just inside the sealing gasket), since modern engines often use the front of the crankshaft to drive a crescent gear pump, and therefore, again, are above the mean oil level. To check if a filter has such a valve, avoiding the startled looks of sales clerks and other customers, purse your lips and blow into the filter outlet (the threaded hole). If your breath rustles through your moustache out the ring of inlet holes, the valve does not exist or is inadequate for our (Rover) use. If your ears pop and eyeballs bulge, it has the required antidrainback valve. The fourth characteristic is the overpressure valve. This can usually be found by looking down inside the threaded outlet hole and seeing if there is a coil spring, usually about an inch diameter and an inch long, near the bottom. This spring holds a steel disk over an aperture, and if the pressure differential across the filter element exceeds a preset amount (usually 8 to 12psi), such as may occur when starting an engine long overdue for an oil change on a very cold winter's day, the valve disk lifts up against the spring and allows (dirty, unfiltered!) oil into the outlet, thereby saving the oil pump and the engine from immediate (not long-term!) damage. Later filters have a phenolic plastic overpressure valve, viewed by looking into the threaded hole to the bottom, and noting the approximately one inch diameter head of the valve. However, in the Rover V8 application, this feature of the filter is less important, since on many of the engine derivatives, there is already such a valve built into the pump. The small thimble-shaped screen covering the pressure relief valve is usually directly visible. (In applications which have the oil cooler adapter is fitted, this will have to be removed to see the overpressure valve.) In summary, then, filter size has nothing to do with pressure (per se), and if you change your oil and filter at the recommended intervals, the PH16-type equivalents) are totally adequate. On a related topic, according to Atlantic British, "[t]here is a service bulletin circulating at the Range Rover Dealers that you should know about. It suggests that you consider placing 5W-40W oil in your vehicle if you live in a cold climate. This will allow the starter to turn faster and help eliminate flooding problems in cold start situations. Move back to a 10W-40 or 20W-50 in warmer climates and in the summer." Richard '89NAS RR Richard J. Atkinson Instrument Engineer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering West Virginia University Morgantown WVV 26506 From: debrown@srp.gov Date: 16 Jun 98 09:32:23 MST Subject: Re: Disco - Oil Filter Renewal Procedure From: David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov *** Resending note of 06/16/98 09:15 PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com David writes: But there must be a million cars a day getting oil changes where the mechanic drains the sump, removes the filter, puts the sump plug back in, installs a new dry filter, and only then adds clean oil. While not trying to unduly belabour this issue, what is different about this engine (in my case the 4.0 l) that results in this phenomenon? You're right, no doubt many people do oil changes in exactly that way, but on the Rover V8 (as well as Buick V6, and BOP 215) (BOP = Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac) But that doesn't make it correct, or even "good." Sure, most of the time you're going to be okay, and the pump will not drain itself, and will have enough prime to get the oil flowing again, but it does increase the odds of losing the oil pump prime. The reason for this, is because the oil pump is *not* in the pan, and therefore *not* immersed in oil as almost all other engines are, but it is above the oil level, built into the timing cover (at the bottom of the distributor shaft, where the oil filter attaches.) This is both good and bad, easy to change out the oil pump gears without pulling the engine (a 15 minute job!) but more risk of losing prime during an oil change. I lost pump prime once on a Buick V6 due to a stuck bypass valve, and believe me, the sound of a *dry* engine is a *very* sickening sound. (I learned a very expensive lesson that day!) Personally, I don't fill the filter all the way when I put it back on (too messy) but only fill it about 2/3 full. From bens Wed Feb 2 10:54:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j12Fsna9004495 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:54:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j12FsnBK004494 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:54:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:54:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502021554.j12Fsn4m004490@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Thin oil Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What are you asking for this beauty and any digitals. I've got too many myself, but sure others are asking these questions. --- Eric Johnson wrote: > > > Well, I've decided to sell my '62 88 IIA w/ > tropical roof. It was > painted Land Rover "Sand" two years ago. Has the > Robert Davis 3.0L > Mercruiser, his early version. Series 3 synchro box, > Ashcroft Overdrive > transfer case (both rebuilt and assembled by BCB - [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] The plan is to take some pictures this Sat. How much...well, I'd be very happy with $12k, but would be O.K. with $10K -ish. From bens Wed Feb 2 20:28:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j131SPa9028329 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:28:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j131SPxk028328 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:28:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:28:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030128.j131SO2Y028324@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mark, I met you on the Blue Lakes Trip. My Name is Josh. I just purchased the other skid plate from Paul Barsanti at LRRC. I am not sure but, I think I got two left side brackets or two right side brackets instead of a left and right. If you have found the same, would you like to meet sometime and swap brackets? Let me know if you have installed yours already and if it worked ok. Thanks, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bens Wed Feb 2 20:50:52 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j131oqa9030219 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:50:52 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j131oqMs030218 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:50:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:50:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030150.j131oqCO030214@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, I have four practically new Goodrich mud terrain M/T 235-85x16 on series rims for sale. $250.00 if anybody is interested. Bob Bernard 530-877-2749 From bens Wed Feb 2 21:57:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j132v7a9001528 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:57:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j132v7WB001527 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:57:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:57:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030257.j132v7xx001523@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stu, If you are planning on going on the Mojave trip, when do you think you would leave. Reason being, is Maybe we could caravan down. Would you be solo? Also, do you own a CB Radio or an FRS Radio? Look forward to meeting you. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From bens Wed Feb 2 23:19:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j134JIa9004891 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j134JIjU004890 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:19:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:19:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030419.j134JHrF004886@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'd love them but you'd have to drop them off to me. Too bad it's so expensive to ship out here. Aloha Peter O. --- Bob and Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi, > I have four practically new Goodrich mud terrain M/T > 235-85x16 on series > rims for sale. > $250.00 if anybody is interested. > > Bob Bernard > 530-877-2749 [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Thu Feb 3 00:45:33 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j135jXa9010292 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:45:33 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j135jX0a010291 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:45:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:45:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030545.j135jWug010287@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bob, I'll take them! And can come get them, On Feb 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Bob and Sue Bernard wrote: > > Hi, > I have four practically new Goodrich mud terrain M/T 235-85x16 on > series > rims for sale. > $250.00 if anybody is interested. > > Bob Bernard > 530-877-2749 [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Thu Feb 3 02:50:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j137ooa9015355 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 02:50:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j137oolB015354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 02:50:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 02:50:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200502030750.j137oo8L015350@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: enrique gomez To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Bought new 2.25!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 10 lines filtered. ] Thanks to all that responded (Mehdi) to my post regarding powder coating a chassis and rebuilding the 'ol motor and pointed me to the guys at BCB I am now the proud owner of a new "Millitary 2.25" engine that the guys at BCB had sitting around. (In the original shipping box from the UK ) To make a long story short, turns out that the owner of the truck decided to get one of their V8 conversions after he had already purchased the 2.25L from RN and needed to get rid of it. it came with two other engines (blown valves) and all the ancillaries. Thanks again! Enrique 62 109 Reg (Blue moon) 98 Disco (Da mule) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From bens Thu Feb 3 08:58:38 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13Dwca9030687 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13DwcfH030686 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:58:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031358.j13Dwcjr030682@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK John, You were first so they are yours. I also have a spare wheel and tire brand new never driven, same size. It has the neat army tread, would look great on the hood. I'd like $75 for it. When do you want to drive up here? 110 miles. Let me know if you are interested in the spare. Bob B At 09:45 PM 2/2/2005, you wrote: >Bob, > >I'll take them! And can come get them, > > >On Feb 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Bob and Sue Bernard wrote: > > > > > Hi, [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 09:13:31 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13EDVa9031366 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:13:31 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13EDVYg031365 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:13:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031413.j13EDVIx031361@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Boy, Sounds like a fun trip my wife and I could carry one under each arm and call them carry on luggage. Bob B At 08:19 PM 2/2/2005, you wrote: >I'd love them but you'd have to drop them off to me. >Too bad it's so expensive to ship out here. > >Aloha >Peter O. > > >--- Bob and Sue Bernard >wrote: [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 11:09:09 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13G99a9003761 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:09:09 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13G99fO003760 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:09:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031609.j13G99r2003756@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: wheels and tires for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I think the tires might press the bounds of the definition of carry-on luggage. If you've ever flown to Hawaii, It's easy to tell the locals. They are the ones whose luggage is large cardboard boxes. You use your clothes as packing to keep the goodies from breaking. Got to take advantage of the 'Paradise Tax Free Zone' shopping opportunities when we go to the real world. If you are game to try the carry on transport, I'll meet you at Keahloe International Airport with a lei. Aloha Peter O. --- Bob and Sue Bernard wrote: > > Boy, > Sounds like a fun trip my wife and I could carry one > under each arm and > call them carry on luggage. > > Bob B > > At 08:19 PM 2/2/2005, you wrote: [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Thu Feb 3 11:37:38 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13Gbca9005088 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:37:38 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13GbbB4005087 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:37:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:37:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031637.j13GbbBo005083@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh. I had not done anything with mine yet. I just checked them and indeed I have two the same as well. How shall we do the swap? Kind regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "joshua fischer" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Question for Mark Pilkington. > > Hi Mark, I met you on the Blue Lakes Trip. My Name is Josh. I just > purchased the other skid plate from Paul Barsanti at LRRC. I am not sure > but, I think I got two left side brackets or two right side brackets > instead > of a left and right. If you have found the same, would you like to meet > sometime and swap brackets? Let me know if you have installed yours > already > and if it worked ok. [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 11:41:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13Gfja9005323 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:41:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13GfjMW005322 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:41:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:41:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031641.j13Gfjsj005318@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mojave Road Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen, So...any chance you & Munir may make it??? 19-21 Feb...I'm there, but Janet is still wishy-washy about going (done it twice already, the new help at the store isn't too great, etc.). I'd like her to go so that I could let her do all the driving this time & get used to off-roading with 4 wheels instead of 2, but she's still hesitant. BTW - any report on the trail? Charles -----Original message----- From: sfmms@adelphia.net Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:31:54 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mojave Road > > A couple of people from my offroad group at work are going this weekend on the Mojave Road, I'll ask them how the conditions were when they get back. > > Karen Sindir From bens Thu Feb 3 13:02:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13I2xa9008787 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:02:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13I2xOe008786 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:02:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:02:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502031802.j13I2wou008782@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, Schedulewise, I'm as flexible as a Russian gymnast. So caravaning sounds good to me. I'm in Marin County (Greenbrae/Larkspur) so let me know what will work for you. I'm without a CB. I only have one of those little 20 channel two-way radio deals that you can get at Target for $15 each. I'll be solo. All my regular camping crew is back in GA, so it'll be great making some new friends out here. My number is 404-247-2001. If long distance is an issue, shoot me your number as my cel plan has a gillion minutes. Can't wait for some desert camping, Stu "...and that's how you tell a prostitute from a police officer." - South Park's Mr. Garrison From bens Thu Feb 3 16:31:39 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13LVda9017574 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:31:39 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13LVdMR017573 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:31:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:31:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200502032131.j13LVcuE017569@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Is anyone getting this e-mail? ----- Original Message ----- From: "joshua fischer" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Question for Mark Pilkington. > > Hi Mark, I met you on the Blue Lakes Trip. My Name is Josh. I just > purchased the other skid plate from Paul Barsanti at LRRC. I am not sure > but, I think I got two left side brackets or two right side brackets > instead > of a left and right. If you have found the same, would you like to meet > sometime and swap brackets? Let me know if you have installed yours > already > and if it worked ok. [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 16:51:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13LpHa9018449 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:51:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13LpHD0018448 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:51:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:51:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200502032151.j13LpHXf018444@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I am. Chris D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. > > Is anyone getting this e-mail? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "joshua fischer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:28 PM > Subject: Question for Mark Pilkington. [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] sure > > but, I think I got two left side brackets or two right side brackets > > instead > > of a left and right. If you have found the same, would you like to meet > > sometime and swap brackets? Let me know if you have installed yours > > already > > and if it worked ok. > [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 16:55:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j13Ltsa9018662 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:55:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j13LtseS018661 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:55:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:55:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200502032155.j13Ltr9T018657@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org yes >>> mark@skywagons.com 02/03/05 1:31 PM >>> Is anyone getting this e-mail? ----- Original Message ----- From: "joshua fischer" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Question for Mark Pilkington. > > Hi Mark, I met you on the Blue Lakes Trip. My Name is Josh. I just > purchased the other skid plate from Paul Barsanti at LRRC. I am not sure > but, I think I got two left side brackets or two right side brackets > instead > of a left and right. If you have found the same, would you like to meet > sometime and swap brackets? Let me know if you have installed yours > already > and if it worked ok. [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 3 20:42:39 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j141gda9028332 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:42:39 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j141gdli028331 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:42:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:42:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200502040142.j141gdvR028327@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Kevin's garage cabinets...was RE: RR LWB No Go Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 33 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 1/31/05 8:41:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, kkelly6788@earthlink.net writes: > I was told that there is a place in Sacramento > that sells a lot of high quality used government surplus office furniture > (since our elected officials are constantly remodeling their offices with > The place you are describing is off of the Truxel exit from I80 just east of the intersection of I5 and I80. Proceed North to the first intersection, and then right. It's the big warehouse ahead on the right. It's the DGS surplus property warehouse. I'm the guy who draws the plans for some of those alterations you're describing. Personally, I would take a look there, but mostly they will be similar in heft to filing cabinets. If you want better gauge materials, try checking with your local utility company. Often there are surplus cabinets for street lighting, or stop lighting equipment. It's a much heavier gauge. My 3'x3'x5' box was about 18 bucks. They generally charge scrap prices plus a service fee. Zack From bens Thu Feb 3 21:09:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1429ia9029408 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:09:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1429iC2029407 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:09:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:09:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200502040209.j1429iQP029403@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Kevin's garage cabinets...was RE: RR LWB No Go Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kevin, I just saw a coupon book from Costco wirh a metal storage cabinet, 36x19x72 for $125. It would have been $100 but the coupon expired Jan 23rd. Frank ----------------------------------- Zaxcoinc@aol.com wrote: > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 33 lines filtered. ] > > > > > > From bens Thu Feb 3 22:24:03 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j143O3a9032582 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:24:03 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j143O34i032581 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:24:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:24:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200502040324.j143O30W032577@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark, I spoke with Paul at LRRC and he took my pieces back and is going to get the correct ones for me. Sorry I don't have them anymore to swap with you. I am going to talk to Paul tomorrow, I will mention to him that the same thing happened to you. Maybe you can work something out, without you having to drive all the way down here again. Please let me know if there is something I can help with. Thanks. Josh _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From bens Fri Feb 4 11:31:28 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j14GVSa9010698 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:31:28 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j14GVSSm010697 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:31:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:31:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200502041631.j14GVRGt010693@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK Josh, Paul is sending me one of yours and I am sending him one of mine. Kind regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "joshua fischer" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Question for Mark Pilkington. > > Mark, > I spoke with Paul at LRRC and he took my pieces back and is going to get > the > correct ones for me. > Sorry I don't have them anymore to swap with you. I am going to talk to > Paul tomorrow, I will mention to him that the same thing happened to you. > Maybe you can work something out, without you having to drive all the way > down here again. Please let me know if there is something I can help [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 4 12:25:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j14HPka9013020 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:25:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j14HPktG013019 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:25:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:25:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200502041725.j14HPkTX013015@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Blair Peterson" To: Subject: Marin_Mendo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stu, I just saw in yr post re Mojave that you live in Greenbrae/Larkspur. What do you drive? Maybe we've waved-- I live in Kentfield. There are few other Mendo lurkers in the area. Cheers, Blair Limestone Series IIA 109Reg "Pershing" White NAS D110 "Trip" (until a few months ago) -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information intended for the specific individual or entity addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disseminate, forward, print or copy it in any form or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message or by calling +1 510-844-3000. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- From bens Fri Feb 4 13:38:16 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j14IcGa9015934 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:38:16 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j14IcGT8015933 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:38:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:38:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200502041838.j14IcFC0015929@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Marin_Mendo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I drive a burgundy '01 DII with a GA plate. I saw a 109 today around San Anselmo/Larkspur. That may have been you. No spare tire, light tan in color. Maybe we can grab a drink one evening and have a parking lot tire-kicking. Stu From bens Fri Feb 4 16:52:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j14LqDa9024190 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:52:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j14LqD46024189 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:52:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:52:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502042152.j14LqDsq024185@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Fwd: Range Rover For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 69 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-21-398075044 charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed if anyone is interested (i don't know this person, nor can i vouch for=20= the vehicle)... Begin forwarded message: > From: "Lisa" > Date: February 4, 2005 10:52:16 AM PST > To: > Subject: Range Rover For Sale > > Hello, > > I have a 1996 Range Rover 4.0 SE for sale.=A0 It has about 1,500 miles=20= > on a new engine (124,000 total) and has new tires.=A0 It is silver=20 > w/tinted windows and is in beautiful condition.=A0 I am selling it for=20= > $12,000 firm.=A0 If anyone in your club is interested my contact = number=20 > is 949-291-1505.=A0 I live in San Clemente, CA.=A0 Thank-you! > > =A0 > > Lisa Gaskin --Apple-Mail-21-398075044 From bens Fri Feb 4 19:07:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1507ta9029714 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:07:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1507tJb029713 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:07:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:07:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502050007.j1507tWD029709@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Series Gearbox replacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In my searchings for Regents next gearbox, I ran across this. I like the idea of the LT85 with a B suffix transfer case. Thanks Kelly. -Rob From: Kelly Minnick Subject: Re: Fairey Overdirve Date: Sat, 3 Jun 95 18:03:13 PDT > Kelly, > > Is the LT77 the 5speed gearbox for the D90? Does it fit directly to the > series bell housing? I noticed the the D90 bell housing is elongated. If > one had to use the bell housing it would seem that the engine would be > pushed forward. Does the series transfer box simple bolt onto the LT77 > or are there modifications that must be done. If this is a simple thing > to do how come I have seen none do it? What about the LT77 with its > respective transfer case, what kind of gearing does that give you with > the series axles? Do you know the gearing ratio numbers for this modifaction? > Are there/would there be any negative aspects to doing this? > > Jason "So many questions" LaBranch > > Jason- Not to put you off or anything, but I'll have to do some digging. I invest- igated this subject when I was getting ready to put my sIII box back in my restoration. At that time, it looked like about $800 -$1400 for a good or rebuild LT77. You could also get the LT85 which would give an even lower low range, but they are harder to find and parts probably the same! There is a conversion adaptor that puts the LT77 through your transfer case. This is probably the cheapiest, though modifing drive line length is no problem. But, the cost and space for the LT230T kept me from that. If you put on the LT230T, you need to either change the ratio of your diffs or but the RR diffs. Otherwise, you max speed will be 10 mph (well, not quite, but 4.7 rear end to a 3.54 is quite a difference!). I suppose, if money was not an issue, you would go for the RR axles, LT230T, LT77s or 380. You then have essentially a 2.24L Defender on leaf springs! Would make the drive train very strong, though! Hey, I just found my Ratios I calculated... With the stock system, you have: Hi range 1st - 16.165 4th - 5.396 Low range 1st - 40.554 4th - 13.536 With a LT77 attached: (2.888 low ratio) Hi range 1st - 19.343 5th - 4.484 Low range 1st - 48.661 5th - 11.280 (this is assuing a 'B' transfer box with a low ratio of 2.888) I think the 'B' transfer stopped in '65. Another option is to put the 'B' transfer onto the 'C' transmission. This gives the same high range, but gives us rock happy people a 1st low of 49.951!) LT77 with 'C' transfer (2.350 high ratio) High range same as above Low range 1st - 39.596 5th - 9.178 LT85 with 'B' transfer (2.888) Hi range 1st - 19.694 5th - 4.290 Low range 1st - 49.544 5th - 10.791 LT85 with 'C' transfer (2.350) Hi range same as above Low range 1st - 40.314 5th - 8.781 Ideally, I'd take the pre-'65 transfer and put it next to a LT77s! Give me the best of both worlds! Have fun with the numbers! Kelly Minnick p.s. sorry for all the typo's! Hey, I'm just a mech. engineer - not a spelling teacher! From bens Sat Feb 5 05:26:26 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15AQQa9002743 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:26:26 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15AQQ2j002742 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:26:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:26:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051026.j15AQQUl002738@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave Road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles wrote: > So...any chance you & Munir may make it??? 19-21 Feb...I'm there, but Janet is still wishy-washy about going (done it twice already, the new help at the store isn't too great, etc.). I'd like her to go so that I could let her do all the driving this time & get used to off-roading with 4 wheels instead of 2, but she's still hesitant. Not sure, one of the windscreen hinge mounts on the bulkhead outside the windscreen on my SIII has fractured and probably the hinge pin too. No trips in it until I have it welded. I am waiting for parts, then I will pull out the windscreen and drive it to the welder. The SIIa is back in action, so maybe in that truck. My problem is that Munir wants to go somewhere different as we have been on that trail 3 times already. I'll ask him. Come up to Big Bear sometime and Janet can try some of the easy and scenic trails there. > BTW - any report on the trail? I have to ask Monday, I have been really busy at work. Karen Sindir From bens Sat Feb 5 12:53:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15Hrxa9020720 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:53:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15Hrx7F020719 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:53:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:53:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051753.j15HrwCu020715@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mojave Road trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen, You have to lure him out there: there's the intaglios north of Blythe, the remains of the Desert Training Center camps (not to mention Rice Airfield), the Hart "ghost town" (I've never been there, but that's what it's called), and all the mineshafts! (well, I'd probably keep clear of those, but I'll walk upto the openings...) I keep telling Janet that there's lotsa stuff she hasn't seen out there, and just yesterday she was giving me a "maybe" (I offered to make the trip in her Rangie, but she still said I can drive...). Oh - and there's also The Main Event in Quartzsite, Az. - one of the largest swap meets in the world. I know that Janet wants to go upto Big Bear again - just have to firm up a date with her. Charles -----Original message----- From: sfmms@adelphia.net Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 02:26:26 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave Road trip > > Charles wrote: > > > So...any chance you & Munir may make it??? 19-21 Feb...I'm there, but Janet is still wishy-washy about going (done it twice already, the new help at the store isn't too great, etc.). I'd like her to go so that I could let her do all the driving this time & get used to off-roading with 4 wheels instead of 2, but she's still hesitant. > > Not sure, one of the windscreen hinge mounts on the bulkhead outside the windscreen on my SIII has fractured and probably the hinge pin too. No trips in it until I have it welded. I am waiting for parts, then I will pull out the windscreen and drive it to the welder. The SIIa is back in action, so maybe in that truck. My problem is that Munir wants to go somewhere different as we have been on that trail 3 times already. I'll ask him. > > Come up to Big Bear sometime and Janet can try some of the easy and scenic trails there. > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 5 13:06:35 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15I6Za9021366 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:06:35 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15I6ZJl021365 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:06:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:06:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051806.j15I6Zel021361@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mark Pilkington Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark, I saw your add on LRX.com and was wondering about the tire brand and condition. Also would you mind sending some pics of the bumper? I can't seem to find it on the Rovers north site. Thanks, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bens Sat Feb 5 13:17:58 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15IHwa9021780 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:17:58 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15IHwEK021779 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:17:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:17:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051817.j15IHwPe021775@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mark, I checked out the ad and would also like to see a photo of the rear bumper. Granny From bens Sat Feb 5 14:49:51 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15Jnpa9025597 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:49:51 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15Jnpts025596 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:49:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:49:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051949.j15Jnp1Z025592@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, Sorry, but I have sold the rear bumper to Roland. The tires are 32 by 11.5 Perelli Scorpions on 15 inch rims. The rims are 10" wide with an offset more than stock. They are basically new tires on new wheels and they also are Roland's. He is going to go to 35 inch tires which involves a little cutting!! If you want to see what they look like, go to Rovertek.com and there is one there. Kind regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "joshua fischer" To: Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Mark Pilkington > > Mark, > I saw your add on LRX.com and was wondering about the tire brand and > condition. Also would you mind sending some pics of the bumper? I can't > seem to find it on the Rovers north site. Thanks, > > Josh > > _________________________________________________________________ [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 5 14:50:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15Joea9025808 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:50:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15JoeTj025807 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:50:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:50:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200502051950.j15JodkF025803@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Granny. Sorry, I sold it to Roland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GrannyP" To: Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington > > Mark, > > I checked out the ad and would also like to see a photo of the rear > bumper. > > > Granny > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 5 15:06:21 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j15K6La9026434 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:06:21 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j15K6LG3026433 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:06:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:06:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200502052006.j15K6Ljw026429@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah - he beat me to it, too! :( Charles -----Original message----- From: "Mark Pilkington" mark@skywagons.com Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:50:40 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington > > Granny. Sorry, I sold it to Roland. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GrannyP" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: Mark Pilkington > [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 5 19:02:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1602Ia9003789 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 19:02:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1602I9J003788 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 19:02:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 19:02:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200502060002.j1602IcX003784@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "kminnick" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Series Gearbox replacement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Rob- Where did you dig this up? June of 1995? I've gotten lazy and now I think a 4HP-22 is plenty good! (4 speed auto). I've seen LT85's listed on British web pages for not too much $$(well, not too many pounds... sigh). Have fun! Kelly Minnick > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:07:55 -0500 > From: "Kerner, Rob" > Subject: Series Gearbox replacement > > In my searchings for Regents next gearbox, I ran across this. I like > the idea of the LT85 with a B suffix transfer case. > > Thanks Kelly. > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 5 22:13:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j163D7a9011762 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:13:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j163D7ch011761 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:13:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:13:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200502060313.j163D7x9011757@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RR LWB= GO Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org it was just the Cap. It is odd that it would go from running to not because of the cap, but that fixed it. I would have thought it would run rough first. -Rob From bens Sat Feb 5 22:59:17 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j163xHa9013612 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:17 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j163xHa4013611 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200502060359.j163xGxD013607@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: RR LWB= GO Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does seem odd but at least it was a simple, cheap fix. Glad you got it going. Granny > it was just the Cap. It is odd that it would go from running to not because of the cap, but that fixed it. I would have thought it would run rough first. > > -Rob > > > From bens Mon Feb 7 10:12:11 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17FCBa9012131 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:12:11 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17FCBno012130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:12:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:12:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071512.j17FCA3n012126@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo list Subject: BP deal of day URL change Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The British Pacific "Deal of the Day" web page URL has changed. If you have this page bookmarked the new URL is: www.britishpacific.com/LandRoverSpecial.html Please take the time to update your bookmark if you are one of the many people who jump directly into the deal page. After 7 years of remaining static the structure of the British pacific web site is undergoing some updating and existing links are changing. I apologize for the inconvenience. I also apologize to those who feel offended by commercial site updates but opened this message anyway. TeriAnn From bens Mon Feb 7 10:17:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17FHta9012355 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:17:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17FHts6012354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:17:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:17:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071517.j17FHtCb012350@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: looking for Mike Catlin Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, I tried to email Mike Catlin, but the address I have failed. failing address: (mjcatlin@pacbell.com) Does anyone have a recent address for him? Or are you here mike? Bob B From bens Mon Feb 7 11:22:20 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17GMKa9015091 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:22:20 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17GMK3R015090 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:22:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:22:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071622.j17GMJvr015086@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: BP deal of day URL change - A MUST READ Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn, Here's some consumer feed back to pass on. I enjoy the deal of the day and it does work to draw me to the site everyday. I also purchased the "deal" when it's too hard to pass up. The down side is: 1. More often than not, it doesn't post until after noon 2. It gets stale when left there for 3 days, and then I don't check back as often. It needs to be fresh everyday, check it out, or loose out. 3. It's entertaining and information to read the ditty about the deal. Sometimes it's as good as Wise Owl's eBay stories about a part they're selling. I'm still completely embarrassed about being duped on the Dormobile badges that were found in a canyon in Canada. The explorer's frozen body was still in the Dormie at the wheel. It was a really good story Ray and you got me, hook, line and sinker... heh. I wanted the Martin Walters badge that's mounted on the right rear above the rear frame member. I believed the story so much that I thought it'd be bad karma to buy the badge. How's that for ridiculous. I can laugh at myself, so I don't mind sharing the story... > The British Pacific "Deal of the Day" web page URL has changed. > If you have this page bookmarked the new URL is: > www.britishpacific.com/LandRoverSpecial.html Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Dormobile Owner Register Email List Dormobile Owner's Club Member# 701 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Mon Feb 7 12:12:56 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17HCua9017135 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17HCuF6017134 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:12:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:12:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071712.j17HCtte017130@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, For anyone in the market, here is a link to some pictures of my rig. www.tedrichards.net/rover The above site is only hosting 6 of the more than 30 pictures I took . I can e-mail other pictures to interested parties when I get home. More exterior, interior, engine and a few underneath. (No dripping e-brake rotor). I will be happy to send details to anyone interested. Ask $12K, but am open to ANY reasonable offer. Based on what I've seen, there seems to be quite a price range for Series Rovers. If anyone has a comment re: price, I'd welcome it. Thanks, Eric From bens Mon Feb 7 13:06:19 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17I6Ja9019620 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:06:19 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17I6JZG019619 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:06:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:06:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071806.j17I6IL8019615@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Change in LRX? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I wonder what the implications of this are. >From LRX: Advertisement to SELL; Product: BUSINESS/SERVICE; Price: $50,000; (Currency: US Dollars) LRX.COM For Sale The three letter domain name LRX.COM is for sale for $50,000. I will also give, free of charge, to any successful buyer of LRX.COM who requests them: (a) the domain name LANDROVEREXCHANGE.COM, (b) all of the programming software and data files used to run the Land Rover Exchange. THIS OFFER DOES NOT INCLUDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT OR TRANSITIONAL ASSISTANCE. If you are interested in acquiring LRX.COM in order to operate the Land Rover Exchange, you must be experienced at building and operating web sites and you must take full responsibility for the functionality and performance of any computer code deployed to operate the web site. Please note that the LRX.COM Sponsorshp program (which provided paid advertising banners and preferential ad listing in exchange for an annual fee) has been suspended. At this point, there are no signed up paying advertisers. Bill Wood, LRX Webmaster. Watertown, Massachusetts, United States of America - 7 February 2005 From bens Mon Feb 7 13:10:23 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17IANa9019813 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:10:23 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17IAMcv019783 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:10:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:10:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071810.j17IALjK019762@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Scott Kirn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: looking for Mike Catlin Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 57 lines filtered. ] This is a multipart message in MIME format. I would try mjcatlin@pacbell.net. (Notice the .net extension.) I think PacBell, or more specifically, SBC, uses .net as one of their extensions for email addresses. Scott Bob and Sue Bernard Sent by: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org 02/07/2005 07:17 AM Please respond to mendo_recce@fourfold.org To mendo_recce@fourfold.org cc Subject looking for Mike Catlin Hi, I tried to email Mike Catlin, but the address I have failed. failing address: (mjcatlin@pacbell.com) Does anyone have a recent address for him? Or are you here mike? Bob B From bens Mon Feb 7 13:11:35 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17IBZa9019857 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:11:35 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17IBZrB019856 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:11:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:11:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071811.j17IBZvB019852@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nice Rover, Eric! ----- Original Message ----- > For anyone in the market, here is a link to some pictures of my rig. > www.tedrichards.net/rover From bens Mon Feb 7 13:18:52 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17IIqa9020068 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:18:52 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17IIqRT020067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:18:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:18:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071818.j17IIpVi020063@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Greg" To: Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow, that's one of the nicest paint jobs I've seen on a rover. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Johnson" To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Selling My '62 88" From bens Mon Feb 7 13:49:14 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17InEa9021324 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:14 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17InEdV021323 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071849.j17InEKd021319@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: looking for Mike Catlin Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:10 AM 2/7/2005, Scott wrote: >I would try mjcatlin@pacbell.net. (Notice the .net extension.) I think >PacBell, or more specifically, SBC, uses .net as one of their extensions >for email addresses. Hi Scott, That's the address I had for him and it didn't work. Thanks, Bob B >Bob and Sue Bernard >Sent by: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org >02/07/2005 07:17 AM >Please respond to >mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > >To >mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 7 13:49:56 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17Inua9021340 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:56 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17Inu52021339 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:49:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071849.j17Inuq1021335@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: looking for Mike Catlin Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >>> skirn@starlume.com 02/07/05 10:10 AM >>> [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 57 lines filtered. ] This is a multipart message in MIME format. I would try mjcatlin@pacbell.net. (Notice the .net extension.) I think PacBell, or more specifically, SBC, uses .net as one of their extensions for email addresses. Scott Bob and Sue Bernard Sent by: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org 02/07/2005 07:17 AM Please respond to mendo_recce@fourfold.org To mendo_recce@fourfold.org cc Subject looking for Mike Catlin Hi, I tried to email Mike Catlin, but the address I have failed. failing address: (mjcatlin@pacbell.com) Does anyone have a recent address for him? Or are you here mike? Bob B From bens Mon Feb 7 13:51:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17Ipxa9021554 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:51:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17Ipxip021553 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:51:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:51:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071851.j17IpwGc021549@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Actually, the picture is on the dark side. Need to adjust the brightness. The picture of the engine bay is closer to the real paint colour. >>> rpgreg2600@hotmail.com 02/07/05 10:18 AM >>> Wow, that's one of the nicest paint jobs I've seen on a rover. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Johnson" To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Selling My '62 88" From bens Mon Feb 7 14:25:47 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17JPla9022988 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:25:47 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17JPlvW022987 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:25:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:25:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071925.j17JPlil022983@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nice! What is the material you have on the firewall? How well does it work? On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:12:55 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Mon Feb 7 14:45:03 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17Jj3a9023678 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:03 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17Jj3xS023677 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200502071945.j17Jj2in023673@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a layer of a Dyno-Mat like product on both sides of the firewall. 'Brown Bread" on the inside, above the transmission tunnel. Then a layer of the sound insulation - outside is layer of foil , then about a 1/2" layer of shredded, compressed rags/cloth. That layer goes from the bottom up to where you can see it end, about engine level. It absolutely helps with the engine heat transfer into the engine compartment. Noise wise, well, hard to tell, 'cuz I installed all that prior to the engine going in, so no baseline. With headers and all, its still noisey inside, but you can carry on a conversation without a problem. >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/07/05 11:25 AM >>> Nice! What is the material you have on the firewall? How well does it work? On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:12:55 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Mon Feb 7 15:01:30 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17K1Ua9024443 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:01:30 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17K1Uh5024442 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:01:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:01:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200502072001.j17K1U2S024438@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Are there any problems with this layer getting moldy? On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:02 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Mon Feb 7 15:19:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17KJ0a9025075 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:19:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17KJ09I025074 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:19:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:19:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502072019.j17KJ0Uo025070@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I don't think so, but I took a tip from Joe MulQueen and sealed all the edges with foil tape. A PIA but that keeps the edges of the pads from acting like a Q-Tip. As long as it can dry out, or stay dry, it should be fine for years. >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/07/05 12:01 PM >>> Are there any problems with this layer getting moldy? On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:02 -0500, Eric Johnson wrote: From bens Mon Feb 7 15:38:57 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17Kcva9025882 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:38:57 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17Kcvsn025881 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:38:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:38:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200502072038.j17Kcu0L025877@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Selling My '62 88" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, I used the foil backed rag stuff in Olivia and it was great for noise and heat. But I didn't think about sealing the edges partly because "they" said it was water resistant. The ones under the floor mats smelled really quick after the first rain. So I removed the floor ones for the wet weather. Bob B At 12:19 PM 2/7/2005, you wrote: >I don't think so, but I took a tip from Joe MulQueen and sealed all the >edges with foil tape. A PIA but that keeps the edges of the pads from >acting like a Q-Tip. As long as it can dry out, or stay dry, it should >be fine for years. > > >>> james86004@gmail.com 02/07/05 12:01 PM >>> > >Are there any problems with this layer getting moldy? > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 7 17:13:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17MDsa9029954 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:13:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17MDsKa029953 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:13:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:13:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200502072213.j17MDsuT029949@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Donald Morton" To: Subject: Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 117 lines filtered. ] charset="us-ascii" Please add me to the list From bens Mon Feb 7 17:14:52 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j17MEqa9029967 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:14:52 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j17MEqtr029966 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:14:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:14:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502072214.j17MEpvO029962@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Donald Morton" To: Subject: Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 117 lines filtered. ] charset="us-ascii" Subscribe in digest please From bens Tue Feb 8 15:07:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j18K7ka9021959 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:07:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j18K7kHU021958 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:07:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:07:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200502082007.j18K7kgi021954@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: LR mishaps Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I think both the rollover and "stuck in the mud" pics are pretty recent.. JoeM '67 SII!109 SW http://www.roverpalooza.com/pics/Richards-unfortunate-accident __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Tue Feb 8 17:52:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j18MqPa9028889 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:52:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j18MqPnc028888 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:52:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:52:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200502082252.j18MqOX2028884@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jess Alvarez To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 1970 Series 88" for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 25 lines filtered. ] Hi everyone. My name is Jess Alvarez, and I was referred to this list by a fellow AZLRO member who recommended I let you know about the sale of my Rover. I hope it's okay to post this. If not, please forgive me and let me know not to do it again. As much as I love it, and as much fun as it is to drive, I need to sell it for space and financial reasons. Here are the basics: Garage Kept 1970 Land Rover Series IIA Left Hand Drive Engine was rebuilt about 2 years ago. Very Low mileage since. I have added the following to it: New Lap Seat Belts, New Zenith Carb, New Flamethrower Coil, New Distributor, New plugs, New Brake Servo, Dropped and resealed the Oil Pan, New Brakes have been added recently, New Parabolic Springs added recently. Runs great! Also includes Haynes and Land Rover Shop Manuals, a bucket full of spare parts and fluids This thing is a tank. Fun to drive, and gets lots of looks out on the trails and in town. Asking $6250 Located in Phoenix, AZ Any interest, contact me off list at roversale@c-s-group.com See pictures at http://www.c-s-group.com/galleries/leaky/series.html Thanks, Jess --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From bens Tue Feb 8 22:50:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j193oia9008715 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:50:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j193oiN8008714 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:50:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:50:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200502090350.j193oiQn008710@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Burned Out 110 (serviced at West Coast British) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just wondering if anyone knows anything about one of the NAS 110s that burned out due to an apparent engine fire. It was probably serviced at West Coast British at some point. It's currently on sale. Jeremy From bens Wed Feb 9 00:23:08 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j195N8a9013669 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:23:08 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j195N8N5013668 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:23:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:23:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200502090523.j195N8HW013664@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Rust / broken Series Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- Has anyone found a Series with broken drive train or rusted out frame laying around anywhere? I'm still looking for a donor! Thanks, Kelly Minnick From bens Wed Feb 9 00:44:53 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j195ira9014795 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:44:53 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j195iqca014793 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:44:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:44:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200502090544.j195iq9D014788@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Daniel E. Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rust / broken Series Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I think there's a guy in Ojai with an 88" series III that needs so much that I would call it a parts car. Let me see if I can track it down...maybe Mo remembers the guy or his name. Daniel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Wed Feb 9 01:14:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j196Eea9015978 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j196Ee0M015977 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:14:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:14:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200502090614.j196Eea3015973@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rust / broken Series Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I don't remember his name, but he had it posted on LRX a month or so ago...the ad is probably still there. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Daniel E. Smith" sirernest.geo@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:44:52 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rust / broken Series > > I think there's a guy in Ojai with an 88" series III > that needs so much that I would call it a parts car. > > Let me see if I can track it down...maybe Mo remembers > the guy or his name. > > Daniel > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 9 11:12:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j19GCCa9007575 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:12:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j19GCCrP007574 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:12:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:12:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200502091612.j19GCCMU007569@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo list Subject: Coiler owners Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I just noticed that BP's deal of the day for Tues (Likely viewable though about 1 or 2ish PM Wed) has tech info about Rover V8s that might just be of interest to owners. Has to do with coolant maintenance and replacement of head gaskets. www.britishpacific.com/LandRoverSpecial.html If all this is common knowledge to coiler owners my apologies for the interruption. It was something I had no idea about, but then I'm just a series owner & shouldn't be expected to know anything about the Rover V8 engine. TeriAnn From bens Wed Feb 9 16:46:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j19LkDa9021266 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:46:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j19LkDCG021265 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:46:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:46:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502092146.j19LkDbh021261@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Mike To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: D110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I saw #234 parked outside of Cisco Bldg D in San Jose this afternoon. Does this belong to anyone on this list? Mike From bens Thu Feb 10 14:03:51 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1AJ3pa9009112 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:51 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1AJ3pXl009111 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502101903.j1AJ3p7A009107@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Jeff Briggs" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: D110 sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I saw what I though was#237 in the Bel Air parkinglot in Auburn over the weekend. I wounder if it might actually be the same one. It looked stock, w/ factory winch mount and basket up top. -Jeff >From: Mike >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: D110 sighting >Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:46:13 -0500 > >I saw #234 parked outside of Cisco Bldg D in San Jose this afternoon. >Does this belong to anyone on this list? > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 10 17:36:20 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1AMaKa9018095 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:36:20 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1AMaKiQ018094 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:36:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:36:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200502102236.j1AMaKYX018090@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Blair Peterson" To: Subject: burned-out 110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Was it Candian spec #20/25? (hope not!). The guy I sold mine to hangs with Mike Green quite a bit... There was a burnout 110 on LRX for quite a while a few months ago. Cheers. -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information intended for the specific individual or entity addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disseminate, forward, print or copy it in any form or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message or by calling +1 510-844-3000. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- From bens Thu Feb 10 18:19:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1ANJea9019701 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:19:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1ANJeQL019700 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:19:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:19:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200502102319.j1ANJeis019696@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: enrique gomez To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Burned D110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] Jeremy, I saw the 110 in the back of Mike Green's shop. Apparently it burned due to lack of maintenance to the hydrualic hoses. It was in pretty bad shape, the damage extended all the way to the rear of the truck, all the panels melted and if I recall correctly, so did the engine. May be a great project. Good luck Enrique --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. From bens Thu Feb 10 23:42:38 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1B4gca9000375 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:38 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1B4gcQc000374 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200502110442.j1B4gcUI000370@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: "Mendo Recce Mailing List" Subject: "Somewhat" OT: New Fairlane in R&T Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Check out the new Ford Fairlane concept (apparently shown at the Detroit auto show), on Page 34 of the March '05 Road & Track magazine (mine came in the mail today). How do you feel about a Ford minivan/suv/crossover, on a Mazda6 platform, with Range Rover (Sport) styling? Also, for those of you who are on-road performance car junkies (you know who you are), Check out the sidebar, entitled, "Put Your Car to the Test," on Page 70. It's about the Racepak data logger. Actually, there's a whole series of them; see http://www.racepak.com. If I had a car for it, say an Audi RS6, I'd surely want one! Cheers, Granny From bens Fri Feb 11 02:01:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1B71Ia9007593 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:01:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1B71IoG007592 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:01:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:01:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200502110701.j1B71HB2007588@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Latest score: F350, 2, others, 0 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay - this is getting a bit outta hand... Was driving from the work to the property this evening, when shortly after pulling out of the parking lot, I had to stop (R.H. lane on a 4-lane street) because of 3 cars pulling into a driveway at a resturant next door to work. All of a sudden, I hear the telltale sound of a driver that wasn't paying attention to the traffic in front of him - the loud screech of tires - and yup, you guessed it, no sooner can I shisper "Aw - shit!", I got rear-ended! The culprit was a 21-year old in a new-ish Toyota Tacoma 4WD that is now totalled, and just as the last time, I continued after the accident report, and drove the Ford to where I was going, and back again! (I really like that truck!) The poor kid kept saying that a car pulled out of a driveway in front of him, but I told him that it doesn't explain how he hit me, since, if a car pulled in front of him, then he should have either slowed down (which he didn't...he appeared to have been moving at @ 50MPH (the limit there is 60)), or, he should have hit the vehicle that he alleges to have pulled in front of him. The best part: the cop that responded was the very same one that took the report when that lady ran the stop sign in front of me, last summer! Her comment: "That's a very well-built truck, but you're not having any luck with some of the drivers around here, are you?" What REALLY sucks, is that I was planning on taking the rig in on Tuesday, to finally have the L.H. front spring/shock replaced - as part of last year's damage repair...now, the same shop will have to see if they can fix it again! At first, I thought it was just the drivers' seat and the rear bumper, but after unloading the truck at the property, I found that there's a distinct rise in the middle of the floor of the bed, and also the quarter panels are buckled out just a tiny bit. :( (not good...) So, this weekend will be spent moving LOTS of stuff! Oh - BTW, that Tuscon trip was cancelled...:( Charles From bens Fri Feb 11 11:51:27 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1BGpRa9031782 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:51:27 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1BGpRYH031781 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:51:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:51:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200502111651.j1BGpQr1031777@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: burned-out 110 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks this could be the guy I know. It happened by Livermore a few years ago and it was the hydraulic line. I tried to find out how got it, but was not successful. Mehdi From bens Fri Feb 11 13:03:43 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1BI3ha9002151 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:03:43 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1BI3hjb002150 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:03:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:03:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200502111803.j1BI3gMV002146@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Latest score: F350, 2, others, 0 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dang, Charles! You're a bigger moron magnet than my dad! Hope all works out with the truck and the post-accident hoo-hah. Stu "...and that's how you tell a prostitute from a police officer." - South Park's Mr. Garrison From bens Fri Feb 11 13:21:52 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1BILqa9002933 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:21:52 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1BILqSm002932 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:21:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:21:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200502111821.j1BILpn5002928@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo list Subject: RR Classic seat belts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know if Range Rover Classic front Seat belts will fit a series rig OK? Might they be too long? My local pick & pull just got one in that will go out into the yard a week from Saturday. Do they take any special tools to remove? TeriAnn From bens Fri Feb 11 13:50:21 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1BIoLa9004048 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:21 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1BIoL9C004047 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200502111850.j1BIoLTQ004043@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Rich Williams" To: Subject: Re: RR Classic seat belts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn - I know that Gord'n Perrot at G&S Services puts RRC seat belts in Series trucks all the time. I had to remove the seat belts from my RRC to replace the carpeting and though it's been a few years, I think all you need is the usual wrench/socket program to do it. And remember that the RRCs are metric - thought I would say so because I often forget. - Rich Williams, Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" To: "mendo list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: RR Classic seat belts > > Does anyone know if Range Rover Classic front Seat belts will fit a > series rig OK? Might they be too long? My local pick & pull just got > one in that will go out into the yard a week from Saturday. > > Do they take any special tools to remove? > > TeriAnn > From bens Fri Feb 11 22:35:05 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1C3Z5a9025509 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:35:05 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1C3Z5Lf025508 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:35:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:35:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200502120335.j1C3Z55Q025504@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org argh I hate being stupid. The Dormie brake job that won't end might have an ending. I have adjusted the brakes and bled them and still have (basically) no brakes. So today I came home in the afternoon and tried to follow the bible I adjusted and read adjusted front and rear. Still, pedal to floor, no brakes. Then a break through! Clamp the rear flex line and wow, great brakes. So bleed the rears. Put a gooping coat of antisieze on the bleed screw threads and bleed some more (I think air goes around the threads and comes out the bleed screw with the brake fluid, when there's no air in the system). Still, no brkaes when the rear is unclamped. I took one drum down to Bernards, a great brake and tire place in Davis and the drum is good. Check the actuation of the brake cylinder by carefully depressing the brake pedal while the drum is off. It's seems good. It starts to sprinkle. I pull the other side and notice one side of the wheel cylinder is poking out more than the other. But they both move upon brake pedal pushing. Put everything back together, still no brakes. But, while going through my receipts to refresh my age impaired memory, I saw that I bought new rear wheel cylinders, and didn't rebuild them. And the stupid cylinders come right and left, different part numbers. I'm hoping/guessing that I put the left on the right and the right on the left and managed to put everything together and have it not work correctly. So, I need to double check numbers on the cylinders (please let there be numbers on the cylinders) and then hopefully, reverse them and be able to stop. And I thought I lied Land Rovers because even a person like me could work on them. yaa hoo, maybe, cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sat Feb 12 02:54:29 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1C7sTa9004882 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:54:29 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1C7sTKg004881 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:54:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:54:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200502120754.j1C7sSoU004877@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org DIFFERENT PART NUMBERS FOR R/L SIDES!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This could 'splain why both my running 109's have crappy brakes!!!!!! Hmmmmmm..... Charles -----Original message----- From: John Hess jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:35:05 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: the devil is in the details > > argh I hate being stupid. The Dormie brake job that won't end might > have an ending. I have adjusted the brakes and bled them and still > have (basically) no brakes. So today I came home in the afternoon and > tried to follow the bible I adjusted and read adjusted front and rear. > Still, pedal to floor, no brakes. Then a break through! Clamp the > rear flex line and wow, great brakes. So bleed the rears. Put a > gooping coat of antisieze on the bleed screw threads and bleed some > more (I think air goes around the threads and comes out the bleed screw [ 33 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 03:07:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1C87ea9005486 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:07:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1C87etE005485 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:07:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:07:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200502120807.j1C87eTR005481@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Classic seat belts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Rich, Think I met you at Gord'n's place a year ago, whe I picked up a chassis from Nick Eckert: you wouldn't happen to have Nick's current email address, wouldya??? I need to tamper with his brain on a few things. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Rich Williams" lndrvr1@nwlink.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:50:21 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RR Classic seat belts > > TeriAnn - > > I know that Gord'n Perrot at G&S Services puts RRC seat belts in Series > trucks all the time. I had to remove the seat belts from my RRC to replace > the carpeting and though it's been a few years, I think all you need is the > usual wrench/socket program to do it. And remember that the RRCs are > metric - thought I would say so because I often forget. > [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 09:13:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CED2a9021068 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:13:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CED28F021067 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:13:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:13:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121413.j1CED17W021063@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi John, The left/right differences might only be for the different angle the hydraulic line enters. I only know 88 brakes, but the 109 rears might be the same but bigger. Do you have the shoes on correct so there is a pin on the front shoe to rest on the adjuster snail? Can you turn the adjuster enough so the wheel locks? Is the top spring on correctly? It only goes to one shoe. From memory (too early to go out to the shop and look at the book) The front shoe has a spring from the pin to the backing plate. The rear shoe doesn't have a top spring, allowing it to stay out closer to the drum. If you connect the spring to the rear shoe and it pulls it in, it will need more fluid to get it out again. BTW, if the pedal is firm not spongy, no matter how low, it doesn't need bleeding. Only adjusting. If the pedal is spongy, then it needs to be bled. If the pedal slowly sinks while being pressed, but no leaks, the master cylinder is almost always the culprit. Bob B 530-877-2749 At 07:35 PM 2/11/2005, you wrote: >argh I hate being stupid. The Dormie brake job that won't end might >have an ending. I have adjusted the brakes and bled them and still >have (basically) no brakes. So today I came home in the afternoon and >tried to follow the bible I adjusted and read adjusted front and rear. >Still, pedal to floor, no brakes. Then a break through! Clamp the >rear flex line and wow, great brakes. So bleed the rears. Put a >gooping coat of antisieze on the bleed screw threads and bleed some >more (I think air goes around the threads and comes out the bleed screw >with the brake fluid, when there's no air in the system). Still, no [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 09:14:10 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CEEAa9021082 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:14:10 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CEEAu8021081 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:14:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:14:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121414.j1CEEAjS021077@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, Most people go wrong with 109 rear brake rebuilds by mixing of the rear shoes. I think the difference between right and left rear cylinders is mounting. If you mounted and plumbed them correctly you most likely have the correct cylinder on the correct back plate. If I recall correctly the only way to get it wrong is if you have removed the back plates and got them reversed side to side when you remounted them. If you didn't remove the back plat chances are real good that you got the right cylinder on the right back plate. >argh I hate being stupid. The Dormie brake job that won't end might >have an ending. I have adjusted the brakes and bled them and still >have (basically) no brakes. So today I came home in the afternoon and >tried to follow the bible I adjusted and read adjusted front and rear. >Still, pedal to floor, no brakes. Then a break through! Clamp the >rear flex line and wow, great brakes. If you have reversed the leading and trailing shoes or put both leading shoes on one side and the trailing shoes on the other you will never get good brakes. My web site is down so I will email you a picture off the 109 brake page that shows how to identify which shoe is which. The leading shoe always mounts on the side closest to the engine. TeriAnn From bens Sat Feb 12 09:39:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CEd7a9022061 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:39:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CEd7Hu022060 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:39:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:39:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121439.j1CEd7B6022056@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mornin, Bob > I only know 88 brakes, but the 109 rears might be the same but bigger. Bob you made the same assumption about 109s that I tend to make about 88's, with the same results I tend to get when I try to give advice to folks with 88s. 109 and 88 brakes are different. The 109 has a single dual piston cylinder in the rear that pushes against both shoes. The springs go from shoe to shoe. > Do you have the shoes on correct so there is a pin on the front shoe to > rest on the adjuster snail? That's where people almost always go wrong on 109 rear brakes. There is a leading and a trailing shoe. Putting a shoe in the wrong location will result in the pin out of position for the snail. I've just emailed John pictures from the brake FAQ page of my web site. Hopefully he can take it from there. TeriAnn From bens Sat Feb 12 09:43:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CEhoa9022290 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:43:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CEhoBo022289 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:43:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121443.j1CEhoDZ022285@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not sure if this is it or not grommit@yahoo.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org] On Behalf Of charles irvin > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 00:08 > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Subject: Re: RR Classic seat belts > > > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 11:05:31 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CG5Va9025718 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:05:31 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CG5VxM025717 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:05:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:05:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121605.j1CG5VbX025713@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ThanksTeriAnn, I also just now looked at the pictures and see I was wrong. Oh well no 109's for me. John Hess, Ignore what I said about brakes. Bob B At 06:39 AM 2/12/2005, you wrote: >Mornin, Bob > > > I only know 88 brakes, but the 109 rears might be the same but bigger. > >Bob you made the same assumption about 109s that I tend to make about >88's, with the same results I tend to get when I try to give advice to >folks with 88s. > >109 and 88 brakes are different. The 109 has a single dual piston [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 11:16:04 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CGG4a9026141 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:16:04 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CGG4Gh026140 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:16:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:16:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121616.j1CGG4nN026136@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org FYI, folks, I dropped the brake shoes the way they say in the manual (prise off the pivot end) and let them hang. I don't recall taking them off the hub/backing plate and I did not move the backing plate. The clue that intrigues me is that the left side rear cylinder had one side(plunger) practically recessed and the other sticking out. Upon activation of the pedal, the recessed one moved out first. On Feb 12, 2005, at 6:39 AM, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > > Mornin, Bob > >> I only know 88 brakes, but the 109 rears might be the same but bigger. > > Bob you made the same assumption about 109s that I tend to make about > 88's, with the same results I tend to get when I try to give advice to > folks with 88s. > [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sat Feb 12 11:22:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CGM0a9026377 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:22:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CGM0Vw026376 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:22:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:22:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121622.j1CGM099026372@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org my brakes, before all this started, were great. 109 series 2/2a/3 4/6 cylinder rear right 243296 rear left 243297 gotta love it. BTW, the new power booster I have is series 3 style booster and master which does away with the angle of the 2A master and difficult bleeding. That's a plus. BCB did that conversion, which involves buying the series 3 brake pedal box, booster and master, then plumbing the lines to front rear. The master has a divided reservoir so one circuit and go dry and the other will function, but I don't see how the brakes are proportioned front/rear. cheers, On Feb 11, 2005, at 11:54 PM, charles irvin wrote: > > DIFFERENT PART NUMBERS FOR R/L SIDES!?!?!?!?!?!?!? > > This could 'splain why both my running 109's have crappy brakes!!!!!! > > Hmmmmmm..... > > Charles > John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sat Feb 12 11:43:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CGhda9027158 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:43:40 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CGhdhv027157 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:43:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:43:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121643.j1CGhdNp027153@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: the devil is in the details Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, Looking at a picture, I see there are two snails. Did you adjust both snails on both wheels? Bob B At 08:22 AM 2/12/2005, you wrote: >my brakes, before all this started, were great. > >109 series 2/2a/3 4/6 cylinder > >rear right 243296 >rear left 243297 > >gotta love it. > [ 29 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 12:28:11 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CHSAa9028949 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:28:10 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CHSARs028948 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:28:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:28:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121728.j1CHSAPe028944@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks, Pete: funny, I was just about to email you @ see if you were home yet. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Peter Hope" hope_peter@bah.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:43:50 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Email for charles > > Not sure if this is it or not > grommit@yahoo.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org] On Behalf Of charles irvin > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 00:08 > > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 12:35:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CHZsa9029351 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:35:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CHZsXt029350 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:35:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:35:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200502121735.j1CHZsj3029346@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Engine stall and rough running from idle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We just drove up to truckee last night, the 110 ran really well all the way up here. Then while turning around (at the house fortunately) the truck stalled. I could restart it but it would barely run. I let it sit for a bit and tried again. It started well, ran for about 20 seconds then stalled. Applied beer, went to bed and tried again this morning. It started fine, although was rough for a while. Now it idles ok and will run at higher rpm ok, but when I first apply gas from idle it will hesitate a bit. Any suggestions as to what it might be? Perhaps my timing is a bit off for altitude? I also just got gas before this happened, perhaps bad gas (forgot to get lower octane gas when I refueled as well). Thanks for any suggestions! Shannon From bens Sat Feb 12 17:41:14 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1CMfEa9009103 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:41:14 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1CMfECe009102 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:41:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:41:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502122241.j1CMfD8S009098@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: RE: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We landed at McChord at 0300 on Monday. Spent the week out processing at Ft Lewis. Have a 4 day week end now to try and get acquanted with my son. We spend a couple days out processing for the state and then begin Terminal leave on the 19th. Then I retire on 7 March. Still looking at moving to Co Springs. Going house hunting sometime during leave. After we find a place I am going to pretty much sit on my but and do nothing until after the house closes and we move. Later Pete > > > > Thanks, Pete: funny, I was just about to email you @ see if > you were home yet. > > Charles > > -----Original message----- [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 22:44:20 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1D3iKa9020964 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:44:20 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1D3iKYx020963 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:44:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:44:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200502130344.j1D3iKVl020959@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gee whiz: another Rover owner moving to Colorado! (maybe I shoulda bought that land near Trinidad afterall...) Glad to hear that you made it back intact - and thanks for a job well done! Charles -----Original message----- From: "Peter Hope" hope_peter@bah.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:41:14 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Email for charles > > We landed at McChord at 0300 on Monday. > Spent the week out processing at Ft Lewis. > Have a 4 day week end now to try and get acquanted with my son. > We spend a couple days out processing for the state and then begin > Terminal leave on the 19th. Then I retire on 7 March. > Still looking at moving to Co Springs. Going house hunting sometime > during leave. > After we find a place I am going to pretty much sit on my but and do [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 12 22:57:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1D3vCa9021555 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:57:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1D3vCdc021554 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:57:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:57:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200502130357.j1D3vCVX021550@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Misc. ramblings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well... The office in my "garage" is almost completely framed in: got a late start today, so I didn't accomplish anything near what the goal for the day was. That, and my neck & right hand - and a few spots in my back are still sore from the accident - and I seem to have lost a filling as a result of it! (yeah - neck pain + toothache = one not very happy me...Ibuprofin seems to work great for the neck/back/hand, but doesn't help much for the tooth - I have more luck using Anbisol & Motrin/Excedrin on it) If the trailer socket on the back of the F350 still works - and I'm able to get myself up early enough, I may move ALL the cars upto the property tomorrow morning!!!!! This, of course, also means that I'll be moving Gillian & the assembled Dormies that are there, into the building as well. (still 5 or so engines to move, and more body parts, but Janet really needs the space like, yesterday) Most of the lower shelves are full at the property, but there's still two rows of shelves to assemble - which probably won't get done until my tooth is fixed. (the hammering may give me the "mother of all headaches" due to the toothache) Note: I like Porter Cable pneumatic framing nailers!!! BEN!!!! I almost forgot that I have somewhat distressing news for you: I was carrying your fiberglass pickup cab roof panel when I got rear-ended, and it appears to have suffered a crack at one corner (a cylinder head bumped into it): don't worry, as in a past life (well, I was 10 years old) I used to build & sell wood/fiberglass skateboards, so I'll fix it for 'ya. Charles From bens Sat Feb 12 23:38:56 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1D4cua9023145 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:38:56 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1D4cubh023144 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:38:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:38:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502130438.j1D4ctum023140@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Misc. ramblings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200502130357.j1D3vCVX021550@coriana6.fourfold.org>you wrote: Re: Charles' building: My barn project is going slower. Ski Patrol obligations have been taking one weekend day per week. It's all sheethed now. I've got all of the perlins in for the upper roof (finished that up today) and we put in most of the metal roof bits to cover the roof slope change. Tomorrow, if the wind is down, maybe we can get the north side of of the shallow slope metal roof bits on. Once I can get the roof on, the barn is going onto the back burner for a while. I was looking at the work spread sheet on the barn. Since we started clearing trees, it has been 94 days of work and we are still not done. Christina got herself a job at Roche and started last Thursday. Right now we are down to 1 viable car--the Disco. So she's been driving me to the train station, then getting herself to work 2 hours later and picking me up in the evening. Ok for a few days/weeks but not a long term solution. About a month ago I was at Home Depot getting supplies and a cop came over to talk trucks, but then started giving me a hard time about the California tags on the 101. It's a little hard claimng that this is my CA truck that I happen to have in NJ. So that's been off the road (and needs a bit of work anyway). Next week I'll be registering it in Maine as I'll be up at the Winter Romp. (This way I can get a title for it with the correct chassis numbers as opposed to the 109 numbers that it came with). Then when the Maine reg runs out in a year, I can switch it to NJ. I'll be doing the same with the 80" (came with no title) so that will be road legal too when I get it going. Meanwhile, once the roof is on the barn, I can stop working on it, and focus on getting Dora back on the road. She's a rolling chassis. I need to weld up the bulkhead, paint bits and put them all back on. I'll drive Dora and Christina can have the Disco. Maybe I'll have 500 miles on the engine by April and can take Dora to Mendo. Stranger things have happened. > Note: I like Porter Cable pneumatic framing nailers!!! I'm a big fan of my Bostich pneumatic framing nailer. > I almost forgot that I have somewhat distressing news for you: I was carrying > your fiberglass pickup cab roof panel when I got rear-ended, and it appears t >o have suffered a crack at one corner (a cylinder head bumped into it): don't >worry, as in a past life (well, I was 10 years old) I used to build & sell woo >d/fiberglass skateboards, so I'll fix it for 'ya. Shit happens. Don't worry about it. Better that you are ok, than the part. (Which is exactly what Dad said after his new (Xmas present) cordless circular saw took a dive off of the roof last weekend. I tried to run to intercept it, but was too slow) Ben From bens Sun Feb 13 01:27:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1D6R7a9029192 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:27:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1D6R7nW029191 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:27:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:27:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200502130627.j1D6R6SJ029187@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Misc. ramblings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ben wrote: >Since we started clearing trees, it has been 94 days of work and we are still > not done. HA! The pad for my building was made 1 year ago this month, while the permit was pulled a year ago this May - and it wasn't finished until last month!!!!! Believe me, you're doing fantastic time-wise. > Christina got herself a job at Roche and started last Thursday. Right > now we are down to 1 viable car--the Disco. So she's been driving me to > the train station, then getting herself to work 2 hours later and picking me > up in the evening. Ok for a few days/weeks but not a long term solution. Ooof: didn't she have a car of her own??? (I thought...) Wha'appened to it? > About a month ago I was at Home Depot getting supplies and a cop came over to > talk trucks, but then started giving me a hard time about the California > tags on the 101. It's a little hard claimng that this is my CA truck that > I happen to have in NJ. Careful with them cops: they're great to have on your side, but don't let them know too much sometimes. Shoulda seen the look on Officer Salmon's face (the cop that did the accident report) when she looked at me & said "Hey - I know you: weren't you hit by somebody last year, over off Burke St.?" >So that's been off the road (and needs a bit of > work anyway). Next week I'll be registering it in Maine as I'll be up at > the Winter Romp. (This way I can get a title for it with the correct chassis > numbers as opposed to the 109 numbers that it came with). Then when the > Maine reg runs out in a year, I can switch it to NJ. I'll be doing the > same with the 80" (came with no title) so that will be road legal too when > I get it going. Meanwhile, once the roof is on the barn, I can stop working > on it, and focus on getting Dora back on the road. She's a rolling chassis. > I need to weld up the bulkhead, paint bits and put them all back on. I'll [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Need a sixpack of Jolt & some stale cookies? :) > Shit happens. Don't worry about it. Better that you are ok, than the > part. (Which is exactly what Dad said after his new (Xmas present) cordless > circular saw took a dive off of the roof last weekend. I tried to run to > intercept it, but was too slow) "Ya know...I've been in some pretty extravegant wrecks over the years - everything from getting T-boned on the drivers' side of my MGB-GT by a 4WD Toyota that was doing 50mph when it hit me, to having the floor of a C-130 vanish practically below my feet, to watching a Huey pilot auto-rotate for the first time in over a year (luckily, he wasn't too terribly rusty, and I'm still here), to having a 7000 lb. forklift run over my left foot, to even having a metal fragment drilled out of my eye, and this is by far the worst I've ever been hurt in a wreck! I'm sure that I missed a few doozies here somewhere...OH! - the time me & my MGB-GT got dragged around a corner by a 20ft. truck at LAX! (his turn signals were burnt-out, so since I saw no signals, I figured he was going straight through the intersection...SUPRISE!!!!!) But yeah - this is the worst I've ever been hurt in a wreck. Strange...I mean, when I'm in a wreck, I usually do it like "The Road Warrior", and I walk away pretty much unscathed everytime! (I must be doing something right) I guess Allah definately has no plans whatsoever, of leaving camel droppings in my oasis anytime soon...that, and there's gotta be a big important reason that I'm still here...I mean, I've had friends over the years, that bought it with much less drama. I don't think I want to be anywhere nearby when it really is my turn, 'cause it'll probably be BIG! Charles From bens Sun Feb 13 13:49:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1DInia9030713 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:49:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1DIniQ2030712 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:49:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:49:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200502131849.j1DInhJs030708@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine stall and rough running from idle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well started the truck up today and it seemed to be fine (just played in the snow yesterday). Then went to drive and it was definitely not fine. Popped the bonnet and found that one of the leads into the coil was loose. Fixed that and it was worse. Looked back under the hood and found the coil output was now sparking to that connector. Wrapped it with liberal amounts of electrical tape (the boot over the coil output was also a bit loose) and now all is good. Always nice when it's something really simple! Shannon On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:33 am, Shannon Holland wrote: From bens Sun Feb 13 18:15:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1DNFCa9009103 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:15:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1DNFCDe009102 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:15:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:15:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200502132315.j1DNFBCs009098@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: hmmm, fixed? now new ongoing project Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org so I think the Dormie brake problem was a combination of things. First, TeriAnn was correct, the rear wheel cylinder are different part numbers because of brake pipe location. The cylinders were assembled correctly. The reason I started all this was a stuck brake shoe, that was indicated by a squeek as I drove. The way I see it, the plunger went out under pressure of braking and then didn't retract due to corrosion. This kept the brake on a bit. Then, when I took everything apart and reassembled the new cylinder with the old shoes, I must have had the shoes not quite perfectly aligned in the pluger and the pivot end such that adjust the leading shoe I had it way out forward and the trailing shoe was hence retracted. After all my fussing around, it was the unbalanced appearance of the wheel cylinder that had me thinking I did something wrong with them. But this morning, under threat of rain, I opened up both sides and tore into the left rear and verified that everything was correct. Then, upon reassembly, I backed off the shoe adjusters and got the shoes and cylinders are assembled and balance and wonderful. Then, on with the brake drum and wheel and readjust. Finally, everything worked like it's supposed to. gack, what a pain. I'm buying new rear shoes because I think having old ones let me get things screwed up adjusted in the first place. Now for Stubby: Stubby's left front tire and wheel were coated with what I guessed was 90wt on the inside. I spotted this from the street and ordered a new seal and brake shoes, figuring I do that after the Dormie. Well, the Dormie is OK so Stubby is now in the drive. i did some disassembly and of course things aren't going well. On the front Stub Axle is a distance piece 599598. Stubby's is very shiny except for a grey discolored line that goes all the way around. Rubbing my fingernail over the discoloration, I think that maybe I can feel it, but maybe not. The oil seal GHS202 for the inner bearing rides on this distance piece. The oil seal I received from BP is 217400G and is too small for my hub. I will be checking parts numbers to figure out what I need. Questions: Is the line on the distance piece normal from use, or does it indicate that I absolutely need a new distance piece? If I need a new distance piece, isn't there a speedi sleeve for this situation? Does the speedi sleeve repair use the same inner seal? thanks for reading this far, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Mon Feb 14 07:40:58 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1ECewa9010804 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:40:58 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1ECewB0010803 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:40:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:40:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502141240.j1ECewBr010799@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine stall and rough running from idle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...sounds like new plug wires are in order... This was one of the problems wit the Rangie we recently picked up: I looked at the service history, and it seemed that the plug wires had NEVER been replaced in 15 years! I replaced 'em, and now it runs on all 8 cylinders again. :) Charles -----Original message----- From: Shannon Holland holland@loser.net Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:49:44 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine stall and rough running from idle > > Well started the truck up today and it seemed to be fine (just played in > the snow yesterday). Then went to drive and it was definitely not fine. > > Popped the bonnet and found that one of the leads into the coil was > loose. Fixed that and it was worse. Looked back under the hood and found > the coil output was now sparking to that connector. Wrapped it with > liberal amounts of electrical tape (the boot over the coil output was > also a bit loose) and now all is good. [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 14 09:51:51 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1EEpoa9015996 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:51:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1EEpo59015995 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:51:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:51:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200502141451.j1EEpoAC015991@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: John Hess Subject: Re: hmmm, fixed? now new ongoing project Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, That seal is for inside the swivel at a the axle housing. You want the hub seal RTC3510. Be sure to coat the outside of the seal with sealant, I like ultra black. I've seen 90wt seep around a new seal. With the distance piece, if it is only a line of deposited stuff, I would polish it off with emery paper. If it is a groove that catches your fingernail (unless you bite your nails) I would replace it. But the new seal is a double lip so it should be ok. BTW, I don't see GHS202 in the parts catalog. Bob B At 03:15 PM 2/13/2005, you wrote: >Now for Stubby: Stubby's left front tire and wheel were coated with >what I guessed was 90wt on the inside. I spotted this from the street >and ordered a new seal and brake shoes, figuring I do that after the >Dormie. Well, the Dormie is OK so Stubby is now in the drive. i did >some disassembly and of course things aren't going well. On the front >Stub Axle is a distance piece 599598. Stubby's is very shiny except >for a grey discolored line that goes all the way around. Rubbing my >fingernail over the discoloration, I think that maybe I can feel it, >but maybe not. The oil seal GHS202 for the inner bearing rides on [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 14 11:03:04 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1EG34a9018862 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:03:04 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1EG34Ci018861 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:03:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:03:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200502141603.j1EG33fV018857@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Misc. ramblings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200502130627.j1D6R6SJ029187@coriana6.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Ooof: didn't she have a car of her own??? (I thought...) Wha'appened to it? '86 BMW 325. 230kmiles. Had some piston slap. The exhaust was on it's last legs and she decided that it wasn't worth buying new parts and was driving it until it died. Then it started overheating within 5 minutes of starting and bubbles in the coolant. So it's got a blown head gasket or a crack in the head or block. This happened in Sept or Oct. And it's sat since then. I finally pulled the insurance off of it last week. I almost got a parts 325 with a good engine, but that fell through. Mostly car work as been on hold in favor of the barn contstruction. That is changing now. We got another 1/4 of the roof metal on this weekend. One more full day and I'll have the roof done enough to put the project on hold (if necessary) for a few months Ben From bens Mon Feb 14 17:34:45 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1EMYja9002634 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:34:45 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1EMYjec002633 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:34:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:34:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200502142234.j1EMYiN7002629@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Ben Mitchell To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Wheels Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey folks, I've got a set of 5 five-spoke alloys (from a '94 D90) that I need to get rid of. They're banged up, but there's life left in 'em. They'd make a great Valentine's Day gift for that special someone ;-) $100 for the set (i.e. $20 / wheel - but you've gotta take 'em all). I will not ship them, so you need to pick them up in Palo Alto, CA. Best to contact me at: ben@mitchellfamily.com Thanks, -Ben PS - For those marvelling that I'm posting after a roughly 4 year Mendo hiatus the brief update is that yes, I'm still alive and living in the greater bay area. I still have 2 Land Rovers, and remarkably they're both drivable now. I've had precious little time to hit the trail lately, but I'm hoping for a shift in that this summer. We'll see. Hope to see you all on the trail someday soon. From bens Tue Feb 15 01:37:32 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1F6bWa9024176 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:37:32 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1F6bWDZ024175 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:37:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:37:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200502150637.j1F6bW4e024171@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine stall and rough running from idle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I did replace them a couple of years ago, but I'll take a close look at em (my miata had bad plug wires years ago - thing barely ran but again a really easy fix!). The 110 did make it home from tahoe and ran very well. No more slippage of the boot on the coil. I definitely will replace the one cranky connector to the coil. Thanks! Shannon On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 4:51 am, charles irvin wrote: From bens Tue Feb 15 09:52:05 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1FEq5a9011701 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:52:05 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1FEq5dA011700 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:52:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:52:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200502151452.j1FEq5Gm011696@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Engine stall and rough running from idle Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 28 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 2/14/05 10:44:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, holland@loser.net writes: > Lots of folks replace plug wires on some sort of time basis, but it easy to test how well the wires and cap are doing. Run out someplace where it is really dark, and lift the hood while idling. It helps if the weather outside is damp, but if your wires are leaky, you'll see a nice blue glow where the magic smoke is leaking out. Don't feel of the plug wires, and don't stick any fingers you want to keep down into a dark engine compartment. Attempting to heft the plug wires can cause you to receive a nice shock, or to add pinkies to the "used to have" list. Best to test, than simply replace at the price of good wires. Zack Arbios From bens Tue Feb 15 10:54:11 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1FFsBa9014072 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:54:11 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1FFsBSI014071 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:54:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:54:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200502151554.j1FFsAfj014067@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave weather forecast Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, Acording to the National Weather Service, it'll most likely be raining on the way out to Laughlin on Friday: Sat and Mon currently both have a 20% chance of rain, while Sunday is being called partly cloudy. The amount of rain is presently forecast to be light, however, there are showers predicted between now & the weekend. So long as the rain near the end of the week is light, there shouldn't be any problems along the trail. At present, I doubt that we'll see any rain during the trip - but this can of course change between now & Friday. I'll keep an eye on this, and if the forecast gets worse by Thursday night, then I'll advise that the trip be cancelled. Of course, I'll still be game for doing part of the trip, but then again, I was in a bad accident last week, so I may have a few screws loose! (in fact, I see the dentist this morning to have one tightened up) Charles From bens Tue Feb 15 14:19:08 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1FJJ8a9022353 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:08 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1FJJ8UW022352 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200502151919.j1FJJ8mt022348@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave weather forecast Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Do we have a head count for Mojave? I'm in, and plan to caravan down with Josh. Stu "That's bloody Africa for you. Everything bites!" -A professional hunter after being bitten by his malarial wife From bens Tue Feb 15 21:25:30 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1G2PUa9007844 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:25:30 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1G2PUxR007843 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:25:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:25:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200502160225.j1G2PUlg007839@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Charles, Laughlin, Friday night? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, We are planning on staying at Harrah's in Laughlin Friday night. We plan on getting in around 8:00 to 9:00 PM. Maybe we could meet you in Laughlin Friday night or Saturday morning? Just a thought. So I am really looking forward to this trip and meeting you. Thanks again for helping us newbies out with all of the decision making. We really do appreciate it. Thanks again , Josh _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From bens Wed Feb 16 15:45:28 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1GKjSa9022885 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:45:28 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1GKjSOw022884 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:45:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200502162045.j1GKjR3e022880@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Nick Baggarly" To: Subject: DRIVE AROUND THE WORLD : Finish Line in Site! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 261 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" 16 February, 2005 Dear friends of Drive Around the World, =20 After 16 months, four continents and countless cans of Red Bull, your = LONGITUDE Expedition has some exciting news to share. After reaching the = northernmost point of the journey Feb. 5 at Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, our = Land Rovers turned south and are pointed toward the finish line at the = Parkinson's Institute in Sunnyvale, Calif. =20 We're coming home! =20 If you've followed our journals and dispatches, you know where we've = been. From California all the way to the road's end in Tierra del Fuego. = Across Australia's Gunbarrel Highway. Through the muddiest parts of = Southeast Asia, the highest roads of the Himalayas, the most treacherous = parts of Pakistan and the coldest corners of Siberia. =20 You also know who we've met. The Dalai Lama, for starters (though we = couldn't tell anyone until we made it through China)! We've rallied = celebrities like Michael J. Fox, Jay Leno and James Cameron to our = cause. We made friends on the streets of Bangkok and the reed houses of = Bolivia. =20 And we met with people around the world who live with Parkinson's = disease. Don Tito, a sheepherder from Patagonia, can no longer climb = into his saddle and tend his flocks. Wang, from Singapore, gave up his = career as a commercial pilot. Naomi, from Australia, thirsts for = literature but cannot hold a book. =20 Their hands may tremble, but their hearts do not. The determination and = strength of these people touched us, inspired us and reminded us that = Parkinson's disease does not recognize international borders. It is a = disease desperately in need of awareness, at home and especially abroad. = In Laos, a country of over 6 million that likely has thousands living = with Parkinson's, we found just one person who had been diagnosed with = the disease. =20 Our expedition has been about bringing hope to Parkinson's sufferers. = It's been about promoting cross-border understanding. In the most = essential sense, it's been about raising money to fund research to find = a cure for PD, which the National Institute of Health believes will = happen with the proper funding. We hope you've enjoyed the virtual ride as well, but the expedition = isn't over yet. The truth is, this final leg is the most important of = the expedition. We need your support to reach our fundraising goal and = make a sincere difference in the fight against Parkinson's disease. Land Rover Certified Pre-Owned and 60 other companies have made = contributions to defray the expedition's costs and ensure that 100 = percent of funds raised go directly to the Parkinson's Institute. To = donate, visit www.drivearoundtheworld.com/support. =20 But more than anything, our drive around the world has been about making = a difference. I felt helpless when my big sister, Jackie, was diagnosed = with PD. So did my friend and team member Todd Borgie after his father = began to shake. We took to the road not to escape our problems, but to = challenge them and become part of the solution. =20 In the process, we used our Web site to take students back home on = virtual field trips, where they learned about geography and cultural = diversity. They also have a rough idea what Peruvian guinea pig tastes = like. =20 We hope you will tell your friends and neighbors about us. We hope you = will continue to contribute. And we hope to see you at the finish line = celebration, Feb. 28 at 11 a.m. at the Parkinson's Institute! =20 You'll meet the team, see the vehicles that traveled 41,000 miles, hear = all our tales and adventures and eat some unusual foods from around the = world (no guinea pig, we promise). You will witness a major event in = motor vehicle history - the culmination of an unprecedented adventure, = the longest drive ever undertaken to raise money for a charitable cause. =20 Just by joining us, you'll become part of the greater Parkinson's = community. You'll be supporting our team and its philanthropic mission. = You'll be part of the solution. =20 Until then, you can track our daily progress at = www.drivearoundtheworld.com. Don't forget, a minimum donation of just = $10 will earn a chance to win one of the 2003 Certified Pre-owned = Discovery vehicles, identical to those that went around the world. The = vehicle, which is signed by Jay Leno, Michael J. Fox and director James = Cameron, will be raffled off in conjunction with the New York Auto Show = in April. =20 Also, if you work in the media, we invite you to help us spread the word = and defeat Parkinson's disease. We are available for interviews as we = make our way towards the finish line, and there's still time for = reporters to ride along as part of the "Take Me With You" program. =20 Until Feb. 28, we will carry all of you, in spirit, with us to the = finish line. We thank you for your past support, and we hope to see you = at the Parkinson's Institute! =20 Sincerely, =20 Nick Baggarly executive director/LONGITUDE Expedition leader Drive Around the World +1 408 355-5544 nick@drivearoundtheworld.com=20 www.drivearoundtheworld.com=20 VISIT US! From bens Fri Feb 18 01:39:26 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1I6dQa9012570 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:39:26 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1I6dQsx012569 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:39:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:39:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200502180639.j1I6dPOo012565@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave is a go-go! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, so far, it looks like weather will be good in the desert. So, I'll be seeing everybody (well, those that are going!) Saturday morning, around 10-ish, at the gas station at the Fort Mojave Indian Reservation - or does anybody have a better meeting place??? My cellphone is 559-300-2105: I'll be in Janet's Rangie, because I just haven't had any time to work on either of the running Series rigs. (the Rangie is a "green Rover") Charles From bens Fri Feb 18 01:44:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1I6ita9012782 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:44:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1I6itwC012781 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:44:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:44:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502180644.j1I6itRn012777@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Charles, Laughlin, Friday night? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, we'll play it by ear: I may not be able to leave until after 1800 hrs, and that'll put me there @ 11:00 - midnight. Cellphone for me is 559-300-2105. Charles -----Original message----- From: "joshua fischer" jfischer160@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:25:30 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Charles, Laughlin, Friday night? > > Charles, > We are planning on staying at Harrah's in Laughlin Friday night. We plan on > getting in around 8:00 to 9:00 PM. Maybe we could meet you in Laughlin > Friday night or Saturday morning? Just a thought. So I am really looking > forward to this trip and meeting you. Thanks again for helping us newbies > out with all of the decision making. We really do appreciate it. > > Thanks again , [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 18 10:41:53 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1IFfra9002165 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:41:53 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1IFfrJi002164 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:41:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:41:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200502181541.j1IFfqnL002160@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More Mojave weather... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gee...it's changed a bit - the storm seems to have slowed down a little: last night, they were calling the chance of rain for Sat-Mon 40%, 20%, 20%. Now, it's gone upto 50%, 50%, 40%. I'm still going! Charles From bens Fri Feb 18 22:25:21 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1J3PLa9031403 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:25:21 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1J3PKu3031402 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:25:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:25:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200502190325.j1J3PKmX031398@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey. It's been a year since I was subscribed to Mendo and a year and a half since since I owned the Disco that Taylor Pipes drives around. It will be fun to see who's still on the list that I know. (Since I was kind of a recluse, I don't expect a lot of people to remember me...) Just today I picked up a '95 D90 soft top and will be looking for some used or new bits. - front sway bar, brackets and drop links - steel wheels and 235/85 16 MT (have a set of 4 '97 style alloys with 285/75 AT's for sale or trade) - stock muffler and tail pipe (everything behind the cat on down) Eventually will be looking for an ARB winch bumper and winch as well as rock sliders and other goodies. Then in dreamsville, the complete safari rack. BTW, is Roverland still in SF? They're not the one's in Martinez? I lured Jason and Petra out to see it. Maybe we'll get them in another appropriate vehicle before long. I could see them salivating... Cheers. Eric, Joy and Elise Fournier. From bens Fri Feb 18 23:43:20 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1J4hKa9001980 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:43:20 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1J4hKVs001979 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:43:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:43:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200502190443.j1J4hKqo001975@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, Eric, Welcome back! I remember you on the list, although I don't recall if we ever met in person (did you ever go to the Mendocino Forest notaRallye in April? If so, we must have met! Congrats on the D90! Nothing is cooler than that, well, almost nothing. Look at the for sale forum on the NCRC website. Rich Lee posted there a set of steel Disco wheels for sale, just in the past week or so. I think they're shod with almost new 265/75R16 MTs of some sort. He's parting out the Disco I because it rolled. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Fournier" > Just today I picked up a '95 D90 soft top and will be looking for some > used or new bits. > > - steel wheels and 235/85 16 MT (have a set of 4 '97 style alloys with > 285/75 AT's for sale or trade) From bens Sat Feb 19 01:02:48 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1J62ma9007016 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:02:48 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1J62msk007015 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:02:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:02:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200502190602.j1J62l0a007011@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org welcome back Eric! good to see you here again! many of us are still here. Charles Irvin and I both have moved to the Fresno/Visalia area, and Joe Ernest is moving here as we speek(starts work in a week!!)...but most are still back in teh bay area and still on the list. if you needed a new stock wrap-around brush bar, I have one in the orig box...or anyone else? you don' wanna get teh 235'85's! they are good for a disco I guess..., but with the d-90 you can easily use real tires! minimum needed would be 33" so try for 255-85 or bigger! :-) anything smaller looks silly on a defender...and the added diametar is better offroad. remember it's not the ol' m-3! ;-) Paul(still driving the "Light Brigade" and Elgie, but married Elisa with a lwb rangie and TomW's s-III which is now Elbie as it matches Elgie.....) --- Eric Fournier wrote: > > Hey. It's been a year since I was subscribed to Mendo and > a year and a > half since since I owned the Disco that Taylor Pipes > drives around. It > will be fun to see who's still on the list that I know. > (Since I was > kind of a recluse, I don't expect a lot of people to > remember me...) [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 19 10:18:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1JFI2a9029831 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:18:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1JFI2hQ029830 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:18:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:18:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200502191518.j1JFI2rQ029826@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Granny. Thanks for the reply! Although I've never made it out to a Not-a-Rallye, I could swear I met you at a dinner kind of thing or something. But, my memory does not serve me well. I didn't know the NCRC site had a forum... Yet another place to troll! Cheers! Eric. On Feb 18, 2005, at 8:43 PM, GrannyP wrote: > > Hey, Eric, > > Welcome back! I remember you on the list, although I don't recall if > we > ever met in person (did you ever go to the Mendocino Forest notaRallye > in > April? If so, we must have met! > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 19 10:27:16 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1JFRGa9030270 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:27:16 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1JFRGeU030269 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:27:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:27:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200502191527.j1JFRGbL030265@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Paul. Congrats to you! You've got quite the family now! Good to have someone who shares the same depth of enthusiasm. Not ready to move to Fresno, so I'll have to stick with the girlie-man tire sizes for now ;-) Cheers! Eric. On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:02 PM, Paul Archibald wrote: > > welcome back Eric! > > good to see you here again! > many of us are still here. > > Charles Irvin and I both have moved to the Fresno/Visalia > area, and Joe Ernest is moving here as we speek(starts work > in a week!!)...but most are still back in teh bay area and [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Feb 19 14:06:58 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1JJ6wa9006742 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:06:58 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1JJ6wno006741 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:06:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:06:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502191906.j1JJ6wnI006737@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Taylor To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 14 lines filtered. ] Bonsuier Eric - I cant believe you are in the Land Rover mix again! My disco is currently very lonely in Emeryville as I am going to be out of the country for a month backpacking around France and Eastern Europe. But the possibility of doing some rock crawling or better yet, a nice weekend tour in the desert of Nevada with you and your D90 sounds exciting! I would love to take a gander at it when I come back. I hope all is well and hope to talk to you soon! Cheers! Taylor P. Eric Fournier wrote: Hey. It's been a year since I was subscribed to Mendo and a year and a half since since I owned the Disco that Taylor Pipes drives around. It will be fun to see who's still on the list that I know. (Since I was kind of a recluse, I don't expect a lot of people to remember me...) Just today I picked up a '95 D90 soft top and will be looking for some used or new bits. - front sway bar, brackets and drop links - steel wheels and 235/85 16 MT (have a set of 4 '97 style alloys with 285/75 AT's for sale or trade) - stock muffler and tail pipe (everything behind the cat on down) Eventually will be looking for an ARB winch bumper and winch as well as rock sliders and other goodies. Then in dreamsville, the complete safari rack. BTW, is Roverland still in SF? They're not the one's in Martinez? I lured Jason and Petra out to see it. Maybe we'll get them in another appropriate vehicle before long. I could see them salivating... Cheers. Eric, Joy and Elise Fournier. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In the depths of winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. ~ Albert Camus From bens Sat Feb 19 23:39:29 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1K4dTa9029663 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:39:29 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1K4dTZS029662 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:39:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:39:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200502200439.j1K4dSdd029658@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, That could have been the Christmas party at a brewery in Palo Alto. The only other dinner kind of thing I can recall attending was at another brewery in San Raphael. It was organized by photographer Michael Sewell and had Bill Burke as the special guest. It was followed by a Camel Trophy slide show hosted by Bill Burke at LR Marin. The LR forums (fora?) on the NCRC website are not the most active but occasionally contain something interesting. There's another discussion list around here, too. It's norcalrovers on Yahoo! Groups. It seems to be a good group, who seem to put together some type of one-day outing every month. Some members are also on mendo_recce and some are also NCRC members. Cheers, Granny ----- Original Message ----- > Hey Granny. > > Thanks for the reply! Although I've never made it out to a > Not-a-Rallye, I could swear I met you at a dinner kind of thing or > something. But, my memory does not serve me well. > > I didn't know the NCRC site had a forum... Yet another place to troll! > > Cheers! [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 20 11:20:15 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1KGKEa9031792 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:20:15 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1KGKExF031791 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:20:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:20:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200502201620.j1KGKEUV031787@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Taylor. Good to hear from you. Hope you're enjoying your trip! When you get back, we'll definitely have to take a few trips. Disappearing into the desert has always been a favorite. Lonely rover is not good. BTW, if you come back to find it on blocks with the steel rims missing, it wasn't me. ;-) Cheers! Eric. On Feb 19, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Taylor wrote: > Bonsuier Eric - > > I cant believe you are in the Land Rover mix again! My disco is > currently very lonely in Emeryville as I am going to be out of the > country for a month backpacking around France and Eastern Europe. > > But the possibility of doing some rock crawling or better yet, a nice > weekend tour in the desert of Nevada with you and your D90 sounds > exciting! I would love to take a gander at it when I come back. [ 42 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 20 11:27:24 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1KGRNa9032075 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:27:23 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1KGRNdZ032074 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:27:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:27:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200502201627.j1KGRNnL032070@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah, that was it. It was the Burke / Camel Trophy thingie! Cheers! Eric. On Feb 19, 2005, at 8:39 PM, GrannyP wrote: > > Eric, > > That could have been the Christmas party at a brewery in Palo Alto. > The > only other dinner kind of thing I can recall attending was at another > brewery in San Raphael. It was organized by photographer Michael > Sewell and > had Bill Burke as the special guest. It was followed by a Camel Trophy [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 20 11:38:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1KGcia9032598 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:38:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1KGciZK032597 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:38:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:38:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200502201638.j1KGciYe032593@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Series 2 109 PU for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, Loren Stelzenmueller up in Oregon ((lorens@pacifier.com)) sent me an email awhile ago about his truck being for sale. It's a series 2 109 PU that I last saw 5-6 years ago. At that time, it was great, pure series 2 with 2 liter diesel, screw vent closers and dash mounted turn signals. He has since installed a 2.25 diesel, but kept the original. Here are some of his words: The whole truck with the PTO and one 2 1/4 diesel and one 2 litre diesel for $10,000. The front wings are NOS, it has new Michelin 7.50x6 XMS and a new wiring harness. The frame has zero rust. The seats need to be refurbished. You may remember it's a bottom mount hydraulic pump. Yeh I have it on the PU now. It's plumbed and working fine in a loop. I don't have any equipment to run from it, but it pumps fine. I was thinking about $1500 since its so rare. I have some pics, but the list eats them so email if you want me to send them to you. FYI, the bottom mount PTO goes on the xfer case, leaving the OD slot free. The hydraulic pump could run a winch or as Loren orignally intended, a crane to hoist hay bails. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sun Feb 20 13:40:17 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1KIeHa9005081 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:40:17 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1KIeHWp005080 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:40:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:40:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200502201840.j1KIeHcu005076@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, > Yeah, that was it. It was the Burke / Camel Trophy thingie! Ah, then! We might even have met again the next day, in Ukiah. A follow-up to that night was a day of off-road training with Bill Burke, at South Cow Mountain BLM OHV use area, near Ukiah. It cost money, for training that would have been somewhat redundant for me, at an area with which I was already familiar. Although I was tempted to just show up and fool around at CM, I didn't have time. We have a Victorian house in Ukiah, downtown. that we converted to an office building. We had work to do on it. After a day of working on it, I'd completely forgotten about the Bill Burke CM thing. We left the Victorian but had to go by the bank before heading to our home, about 12 miles north of Ukiah, in Redwood Valley. Driving through downtown, what did we see? A passle of Rovers parked all over! Ah, they must be at Round Table Pizza. I went in and found the group there, just in time for some free beer. They were about finished up so I went out with them and kicked tires until SWMBO got a bit impatient. That was a nice bonus for me, even if I had to miss out on the training session. Cheers, Granny From bens Sun Feb 20 20:08:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1L18na9020586 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:08:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1L18naL020585 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:08:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:08:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200502210108.j1L18m73020581@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: brakes never end? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hiya folks, I had a nice window of no rain this afternoon, so I did some brake work on Stubby. The front right side was actually OK by all looks from the outside and the oil seal on the axle hadn't leaked so thing s were looking good. I pulled everything apart and changed the rubber in the wheel cylinder and changed the flex line to the wheel. Then I started on the other side which I had pulled the hub from because the oil seal did fail and leaked 90wt everywhere. I pulled the wheel cylinder off and tossed the old oil soaked brake shoes. I started cleaning all the bits and disassembled the cylinder. The seals in the wheel cylinder came out and I noticed a problem: I have no little metal "seal supports" that go behind the seals and take the pushing action of the spring. New little seal supports aren't in my rebuild kit, any one have 2 to spare? or am I buying 2 from BP and waiting some more for time and a lack of rain? Also, when considering 88 brakes, the leading shoe has 2 brake pull off springs. One is on the bottom, pivot end, and connects both shoes. The other is on the top; the spring is mounted on the brake shoe adjustment post (the post the adjuster cam rides on) and goes across to a post mounted on the brake backing plate. the lagging shoe (oops, that's DNA polymerase speak) the trailing shoe, only has the one spring mounted at the bottom pivot end. Is the above paragraph completely correct? cheers and beers, hopefully Lagunitas, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sun Feb 20 22:28:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1L3Soa9026304 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:28:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1L3SouR026303 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:28:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:28:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502210328.j1L3SnST026299@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Dave G." To: Subject: Re: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I shoulda bought that land near Trinidad ...." Trinidad CO, trans-sexual capital of the world? or at least the USA. Not sure you'd fit in too well. :^) Hope the MR trip went well. I was thinking of you all and spent an hour or so reading through Dennis' book this afternoon. Got a chance to ride in a G converted to OM617A turbodiesel yesterday morning. Not the "God's gift" I was hoping for, but still doable enough to get me nailing down the particulars. Kelly did you put OM617A in your Mog? Might need to bnd your ear a little. -Dave G. From bens Sun Feb 20 23:58:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1L4wna9030002 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:58:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1L4wnZa030001 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:58:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:58:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502210458.j1L4wnWW029997@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Off topic FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, I am reducing my fleet, thought I would check to see if anyone here would be interested. I need the space since acquiring the Cortinas For sale or trade or what ever ?? 1964 MG 1100 With free parts car (196?) Austin America 1100 is in current non-op, no paperwork on the America nether car has ran since I got them, the 1100 appears to need a right ft. hub (splines on CV have movement), the PO dismantled the clutch cover the motor does turn over, probably needs the clutch and brake hydraulics gone through. Pictures here http://community.webshots.com/album/278441914Ngsven E-mail with any questions, or call 916-412-0471 Asking $200 OBO or any offer Later Aidan http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech From bens Mon Feb 21 11:05:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LG50a9026494 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:05:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LG50x0026493 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:05:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:05:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502211605.j1LG50mp026489@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: brakes never end? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 05:08 PM 2/20/2005, John wrote: >New little seal supports aren't in my rebuild kit, any one have 2 to >spare? or am I buying 2 from BP and waiting some more for time and a >lack of rain? John, I know the things you are asking about. If I recall, they aren't always there. They show up in some kits, In fact, I just buy the rubber cups from NAPA. Last time I bought a bag of 10 of one size because they don't stock any more but order overnight. Also, Your description of the Brake springs sounds right. Bob B >Also, when considering 88 brakes, the leading shoe has 2 brake pull off >springs. One is on the bottom, pivot end, and connects both shoes. >The other is on the top; the spring is mounted on the brake shoe >adjustment post (the post the adjuster cam rides on) and goes across to >a post mounted on the brake backing plate. the lagging shoe (oops, >that's DNA polymerase speak) the trailing shoe, only has the one spring >mounted at the bottom pivot end. > >Is the above paragraph completely correct? From bens Mon Feb 21 11:09:20 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LG9Ka9026705 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LG9KaD026704 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:09:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200502211609.j1LG9Jjc026700@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric! Good to hear from 'ya again - even better to hear that you've got another Rover: if only we could have twisted Jason's arm enough to buyback his 110.......... As Paul mentioned, I'm in Visalia now (well, I think you were still on-list when I moved), and have since gone from having a 109 P/U & a 109 SW, to having those - and 3 Dormies, and enough parts to build yet another 109! (the madness never ends!) :) Charles -----Original message----- From: Eric Fournier eric.fournier@mac.com Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:25:20 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New D90 on the list > > Hey. It's been a year since I was subscribed to Mendo and a year and a > half since since I owned the Disco that Taylor Pipes drives around. It > will be fun to see who's still on the list that I know. (Since I was > kind of a recluse, I don't expect a lot of people to remember me...) > > Just today I picked up a '95 D90 soft top and will be looking for some > used or new bits. > [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 11:12:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LGC0a9026913 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:12:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LGC0j3026912 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:12:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:11:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502211611.j1LGBxHS026908@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Email for charles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay.....now that I dodn't know, and I must have been in the wrong parts of town, since I never noticed 'em when I passed through there! I thought it was a kinda cool place: lotsa old buildings, nice scenery surrounding it, and not too terribly far from La Junta, where there are some neat wrecking yards! 5 years ago there was a rancher that was selling off some land outside of town: was 20-40 acre parcels for @ a grand per acre...I REALLY thought about it... Charles -----Original message----- From: "Dave G." hipine@worldnet.att.net Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:50 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Email for charles > > "...I shoulda bought that land near Trinidad ...." > > Trinidad CO, trans-sexual capital of the world? or at least the USA. Not > sure you'd fit in too well. :^) > > Hope the MR trip went well. I was thinking of you all and spent an hour or > so reading through Dennis' book this afternoon. > [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 11:45:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LGjxa9028311 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:45:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LGjx94028310 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:45:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502211645.j1LGjwKX028306@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave was a blast! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, notwistanding my recent root canal, accident, lack of sleep due to moving stuff into the "Garage Mahal" (as a friend put it), I made it out to Laughlin late Friday/early Saturday, rain falling all the way out there! The Vegas crowd, several accidents, and road construction made the trip a few hours longer than it shoulda been, but I made it. Saturday was a bit rainier than I had expected, but I met up with Josh & his girlfriend Melissa, Stu, and Jack & Gayle (Josh's parents) - all 3 in Discos (I hope I remembered the correct names...my medication being what it is!), and began the trip from Mile 0........... .....BAD MOVE! At mile 2 we have to drive around some farmland on the reservation, then get back onto the proper trail. All good, except that the detour takes you through a "usually dry" flood control basin that wasn't too dry at this particular time, and also happened to contain the very same type of adobe clay that I have on the property in Woodlake...I almost got stuck, Stu almost got stuck, Jack DID get stuck, and we suggested to Josh that he go around, and his path also contained the same adobe, and it caused his wheels to begin to slide off the path & into the basin! We decided that I would back up back into the basin & pull Jack out - then I began to slide off the ramp sideways! I nosed the Rangie into it (hell, I didn't have a choice) and floored it. Made my way around to the front of Jack's Disco, Stu hooked up the strap (thanks, Stu!), and with 4-5 well-placed yanks of the strap we got Jack out of the mud. Then, on my way back up the ramp, the Rangie began to slide sideways in the same damn spot that it did it the first time!!!!! This time, Stu hooked up the strap to the front bumper, and pulled the Rangie straight as I drove it out (thanks again, Stu!). Jack then proceeded to pull Josh's Disco back onto the path. This whole mess took up just over 2 hours, according to the time stamp on the pics I was taking! (now I know that the VC transfer case & front end of the Rangie definately are in good working order - I flung mud everywhere!!) The rest of the trail was a breeze, though we must have missed a turn somewhere, because instead of having to go around the fenced-off land @ mile 30-ish, our path took us in a straight line behind it - thus, the spot I was planning on camping in for the night was not to be found! (we didn't start the trip until @ 1145hrs) So, a new spot had to be found. Next problem: with all the driving around to pull vehicles out, this threw off our trip odometers(!!!), so trying to find the next good spot I read about in the guidebook was kinda tough, and we eventually found it after dark & pitched our tents. The next morning it was beautiful out there, and hardly a cloud in the sky! Even the wind was calm. Yesterday, we followed the trail all the way to Cima Rd., where I had decided that night before, that I should REALLY head to Stateline, and top off my tank: seems that the Rangie is having fuel consumption issues, as we traveled some 62 miles off-road, and I was down to 1/8th of a tank by this point!!!!! (indicated) We drove to Stateline where I put 16.8 gallons into the Rangie!!!!!! At this point Jack & Gayle decided to go their seperate ways, and the rest of us headed back to the trail - albeit with a detour to the Kelso Depot. This is where the fuel consumption issue comes in to play: my trip odometer read 90.7 when leaving Stateline. We drove up the grade on I-15 to Cima Rd. (a longer drive than by taking Nipton Rd. but there's no constant ascent on Cima Rd. = less fuel being burnt on the way back to the trail), made it all the way to Kelso, then back to the trail. We drove the trail all the way to where it meets Kelbaker Rd. My trip odometer was then reading 187.8 - DOUBLE the distance, and yet I was still showing 3/4 of a tank on the fuel gauge!!!!! Same distance, much less fuel used, and my driving habits on the trail were the same. Very strange indeed. At Kelbaker Rd. we looked at the clouds and looked at the maps: I figured that Soda Lake wasn't going to be passable, nor would the river crossings, due to the most recent rains (Willow Wash was more or less dry, but when you licked the sand, you found that it was only dry on the surface), and so after a very long thought process, we opted to bail out on the trip there, as it looked like rain was coming, and soon. So, off to Baker for dinner at the Mad Greek's, and then I drove back here, while the others opted to spend the night in Barstow - soon as we hit I-15, the rain started to fall! On the drive back here, I topped the tank in Barstow & drove straight back here. Odometer is reading simething like 189 (between Barstow & Visalia), and it's still indicating just a tad under half a tank! Hmmmmm.....air cleaner??? Ignition coil???(it has signs of leaking oil from its housing) Fuel filter??? In all, it was a fantastic trip: we all learned a bit more about our rigs & what they can do (been 5 years since I drove a Rangie out there, so it was a refresher for me), and a good time was had by all. Since we didn't finish the trail, we're thinking about a Memorial Day weekend run: Janet seems to think that we do something else at that time, but we can't remember...any takers for such a trip??? Charles From bens Mon Feb 21 16:12:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LLCsa9006684 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:12:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LLCspY006683 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:12:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200502212112.j1LLCsUh006679@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Wilcox To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Back with a new (old) Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="us-ascii" ] [ 48 lines filtered. ] Hello All: Been off-list since selling Jerry the 110 many months ago. Sold to a fairly well-known nature writer/publisher who lives in AZ and get tons of use out of the vehicle (I think he took five fairly major weekend trips in the first six weeks of ownership). Great to know it went to a good home and someone who uses the truck for what it's good for. He has kept in touch with me detailing his wife and his various trips investigating the flora and fauna subjects for his books. They are about to embark on a 2.5 month loop of N. America. Anyway, through the many moments of Seller's remorse, I had been keeping my eyes open for a Series vehicle. Saw many, inquired about a few, and ended up buying the truck shown in the link below. A restored 1971 Late Series IIA 109 Wagon. Took delivery a couple of weeks back - been getting some brake issues sorted out and hopefully will have it back in my possession in a few days. Am totally psyched to have a truck back in my life and even more so that I was able to get it prior to this year's Mendo trip! Yet-to-be-named, although Blair P. has suggested "Dwayne", a takeoff of "douane" which means "customs" in French. Had to clear it through customs in Sweetgrass MT. From the outset it looked as if it was going to be difficult if not impossible to accomplish, but managed to finally get the accurate scoop about the process and get it done with only minor hassle. If anyone ever is trying to get a vehicle imported from Canada, don't hesitate to speak with me about it! Will no doubt have many questions as I work though various things. First off, if anyone has a Series III pedal tower that they would be willing to sell, please let me know! So here it is - looking forward to life in the slow lane.... http://thr33.ca/landrover/ Eric Wilcox KE6ISN From bens Mon Feb 21 16:29:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LLTxa9007355 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:29:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LLTxrk007354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:29:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:29:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502212129.j1LLTxjh007350@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "mpatrykus@netzero.net" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: UK Container Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org My friend Ken Miller (former Land Cruiser owner) will be going to England this summer. While there he's going to buy a 109 to cruise around in. He will be shipping it home and is looking for any takers to share a container. He may even buy an 88 to sell in the U.S. In any case, he wants to stuff the thing with parts. Any serious inquiries should go to ken@pirateslair.com Mo Patrykus 64 109 From bens Mon Feb 21 18:38:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1LNcCa9012879 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:38:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1LNcCCD012878 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:38:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:38:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200502212338.j1LNcCBn012874@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Mendo Folks, So I was just trying to get a pair of Rover RT's for my Rangie and it appears that these tires are either being phased out, or according to the Tire Rack "on special allocation for only vehicles originally equipped with them" They said something about safety reasons. It's getting so hard to find a decent set of all purpose tires. Anybody know of a place that has a set of five 225/75-16's? My other option is the BFG Commercial Traction (which was mentioned by someone here on mendo, thanks). They're about $25 more then the dunlops but at least they are available. BTW, as soon as I get the 225's I will be selling the five 245/75's BFG MT km's, if anyone is interested. I originally bought them as a second set of tires for mud for my Rangie, but I then realized that they are a bit of a pain to change out all the time. I've only put 3-4K miles on them. From bens Mon Feb 21 19:45:56 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M0jua9015832 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:45:56 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M0jud7015831 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:45:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:45:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220045.j1M0jttZ015827@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, I recently spoke with a young man (he came to look at a house we are trying to rent out) who works at the local (Ukiah) Dunlop dealer. I told him that I liked the RT. He said that they have them and sell quite a few. The shop is Triple-S Tire & Brake, phone (707) 468-9356. Okay, just for the heck of it and since it's a local call for me, I phoned Triple-S. The guy there (Ben) said he didn't have that size in stock but could get them. I told him what Tire Rack told you so he phoned his distributor about them. Sho nuff, they are hard to come by and have to be ordered from Buffalo, NY. He said he was told that they were only available for those who already had them on their vehicles, as replacements. Apparently, they are phasing them out. Dammit!! The last decent commercial traction tire bites the dust! He said that they'd also be expensive, about $140 each (including mounting & balancing), plus about $20 each for shipping. Let me know what you want for the MTs. I have been thinking about going to 245/75 size for my next tires and maybe mud-terrains. Right now, I'm running 215/85 Trac Edges. They're still good but I like to plan ahead and actually do have an extra set of wheels. Cheers, Granny > So I was just trying to get a pair of Rover RT's for my Rangie and it > appears that these tires are either being phased out, or according to > the Tire Rack "on special allocation for only vehicles originally > equipped with them" They said something about safety reasons. It's > getting so hard to find a decent set of all purpose tires. Anybody > know of a place that has a set of five 225/75-16's? My other option is > the BFG Commercial Traction (which was mentioned by someone here on > mendo, thanks). They're about $25 more then the dunlops but at least > they are available. [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 20:37:05 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M1b5a9017869 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:37:05 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M1b5Z4017868 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:37:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:37:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220137.j1M1b4Pd017864@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Fournier To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New D90 on the list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Charles! Sounds like you need to find a support group that'll help you slow down, as opposed to this group which will just encourage... I was just thinking how cool a 109 P/U would be. And a Dormobile. And... Cheers! Eric. On Feb 21, 2005, at 8:09 AM, charles irvin wrote: > > Eric! > > Good to hear from 'ya again - even better to hear that you've got > another Rover: if only we could have twisted Jason's arm enough to > buyback his 110.......... > > As Paul mentioned, I'm in Visalia now (well, I think you were still > on-list when I moved), and have since gone from having a 109 P/U & a [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 21:07:48 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M27ma9019131 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:07:48 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M27mnn019130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:07:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:07:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220207.j1M27lmf019126@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off topic FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org is it just me? or is something funny about this photo? http://community.webshots.com/photo/278441914/278449389AzigON look close at things, right and left! Paul --- Aidan McLeer wrote: > > Hi all, > I am reducing my fleet, thought I would check to see if > anyone here would be > interested. > I need the space since acquiring the Cortinas > For sale or trade or what ever ?? > 1964 MG 1100 > With free parts car (196?) Austin America [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 21:32:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M2WDa9020177 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:32:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M2WDC7020176 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:32:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:32:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220232.j1M2WDnM020172@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave was a blast! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles was right! Mojave was a Blast! This was my first time out there and it will certainly not be the last. Charles went above and beyond the call of duty, guiding three trucks through the desert, and did an excellent job. Can't wait to do it again. As Charles mentioned, how does Memorial Day Weekend sound? The weather will most certainly be more predictable. I know I'm up for it. There is so much to see and so much history in the desert it's amazing! So lets get a show of hands of who's interested in the next trip. Thanks again Charles, for a great weekend. Couldn't have done it without you. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bens Mon Feb 21 21:36:27 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M2aRa9020380 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:36:27 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M2aRC1020379 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:36:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:36:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220236.j1M2aReP020375@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: Off topic FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I actually had the car home a few days before I noticed it, I think the car had a rear corner put on and they used a MKII quarter panel. Later Aidan http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Off topic FS > > is it just me? or is something funny about this photo? > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/278441914/278449389AzigON > > look close at things, right and left! > > Paul > [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 21 23:44:06 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M4i6a9025648 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M4i6Tr025647 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220444.j1M4i5OR025643@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org thanks granny. it's a total bummer that they are phasing them out. i finally decided to get a set and now they are gone. if i could just figure out a way to get one tire from somewhere and then i could claim that they are on my vehicle and need to replace the other 3. hmm. just need some one to borrow a tire from for a day or two. so the bfg commercial traction doesn't look that bad. but not as nice at the trac edges or the RT. Eric On Feb 21, 2005, at 4:45 PM, GrannyP wrote: > > Eric, > > I recently spoke with a young man (he came to look at a house we are > trying > to rent out) who works at the local (Ukiah) Dunlop dealer. I told him > that > I liked the RT. He said that they have them and sell quite a few. > The shop [ 43 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 22 00:13:04 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M5D4a9027412 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:13:04 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M5D45W027411 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:13:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:13:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220513.j1M5D3Es027407@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More on Mojave Road... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org EVERYBODY!!! LISTEN UP: I forgot to mention in my medicated state, that Fort Paiute has been closed off to all traffic - vehicular or pedestrian! It seems that some jackass tried to burn up all the trees along the stream, and there's also evidence of a mudslide on the hillside on the south bank, right across from the trees. You can still drive up close enough to see the ruins, but you can't get near the historical marker. The fence isn't completely finished yet (posts are in place along the unfinished stretches), though, but we didn't dare walk through, as my luck being what it is, a NPS ranger would have driven up at about that time! I'm guessing that after that big mudslide in Ventura County last month, they ain't taking any chances. Also, there have been MANY side roads/trails that have recently been closed off by the BLM/NPS also, probably as part of Janurary's court order, though there are still plenty of areas where side trips can be taken. I found the area where I think we camped on the first night back in '03, but I'm not sure, as there are now 3 campers, and one camper trailer, AND a '60's Chevy pickup that have been dropped off, stripped, and shot up, all in that location. (since this area was still under the rain clouds, I opted to look for a better spot to camp out) Marel Springs has also fallen to vandals: the bricks around the historical marker have been kicked/pried loose (I didn't look to see if the actual plaque was still there), and part of the fence around the corral has been knocked over. I didn't see the penny can anywhere, but I could have missed it because it was dark by the time we drove through most of the "Joshua Tree forest", and I was hellbent on finding a good spot to camp, that I was moving pretty fast whenever I could. The mailbox is okay, though it looks like somebody has used it as their trashcan! (I think: somebody also left an unused trashbag there...) The logbook is still there - same one that was there last year, and it looks like there hasn't been much traffic out there, and the recent posts didn't report any trail conditions. (also why I opted to bail out before Soda Lake - the weather being what it was, I wasn't gonna get us all stuck out there!) It was kinda cool to look at last year's run, and see the notes from me, Janet, Mo & Joe. Oh - found that the Rangie's wandering is bad balljoints! Tried to replace the brake pads this evening, but found that the tire shop must have torqued the lugs to 1000 Ft.Lbs!!! (my 500Ft.Lb. impact gun couldn't get them loose, and I bent the Rangie lug wrench!) So, back to the tire store in the morning. I'm sure I forgot something...if so, I'll post it next week when I remember. Charles From bens Tue Feb 22 00:43:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1M5hsa9029410 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:43:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1M5hsN2029409 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:43:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:43:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200502220543.j1M5hrBp029405@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: More on Mojave Road... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles wrote: > I found the area where I think we camped on the first night back in '03, but I'm not sure, as there are now 3 campers, and one camper trailer, AND a '60's Chevy pickup that have been dropped off, stripped, and shot up, all in that location. (since this area was still under the rain clouds, I opted to look for a better spot to camp out) > > Marel Springs has also fallen to vandals: the bricks around the historical marker have been kicked/pried loose (I didn't look to see if the actual plaque was still there), and part of the fence around the corral has been knocked over. And we wonder why trails and areas keep getting closed. This is so sad. On a recent trip to Knoxville, with some 18 Rovers (my first trip there), I was disgusted to find that the vandalism quotient is far worse even than at Cow Mountain, where it is the worst I'd seen up 'til then. I feel for the folks at BLM who have to try to maintain these areas for continued us. Must be mighty depressing because just seeing it once depressed me. Worse, a few of the Rovers in our groups were yehus who seemed to have no respect for the environment and shamed the rest of us. I remember when I crossed the Mojave Road while following the Tonopah & Tidewater Railroad route, a few years ago. The Mojave Rd crosses the T&T route just south of Zzyzx, where there is (the remains of) an interesting historical marker (for Razor? can't remember for sure). It was barely readable due to all the vandalism it had suffered. BTW, the route across Soda Lake has been altered. It used to go right through Zzyzx (Soda Springs). I think BLM must have moved it, so Soda Springs could be gated off. Granny From bens Tue Feb 22 11:21:30 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MGLUa9023489 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:21:30 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MGLUHT023488 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:21:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:21:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200502221621.j1MGLTwA023484@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Sergi, Michael" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1550 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Can anyone take a photo of the mounting for the Kodiak heater controls? I have the plate which contains the three controls but can't figure how it gets mounted. I think I am missing a clip or clips to mount it to the bulkhead. Thanks. From bens Tue Feb 22 12:31:17 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MHVHa9026663 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:31:17 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MHVHFh026662 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:31:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:31:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200502221731.j1MHVGFo026658@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: Back with a new (old) Rover Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Looks very nice Eric. Congratulations. You have to make the Emeryville lunch one of these times. Mehdi From bens Tue Feb 22 12:43:42 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MHhga9027115 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:43:42 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MHhgA7027114 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:43:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:43:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200502221743.j1MHhgVV027110@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1550 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Can anyone take a photo of the mounting for the Kodiak heater controls? I > have the plate which contains the three controls but can't figure how it > gets mounted. I think I am missing a clip or clips to mount it to the > bulkhead. Thanks. There are two kinds of mounting plates that I am aware of. One is a narrow plate that mounts vertically next to the the main gauge panel. The other one I have seen is 'L' shaped and mounts below the lower instrument panel shelf. You should have a bulkhead hole for the air control and one for the water flow control. Locate them and you can figure which you should have. The one mounted vertically s just a narrow flat plate with 3 "D" shaped holes for the switches plus a single hole at each end for screw mounts. If memory serves the vertical plate top bolt is the screw that mounts the bottom of the scuttle vent lever. The panel slides below the lever assembly. TeriAnn From bens Tue Feb 22 12:46:43 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MHkha9027336 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:46:43 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MHkheb027335 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:46:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:46:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200502221746.j1MHkh2k027331@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Land-Rover plus Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, All you Mac and Rover fans have to check this out: http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/15.html Cheers, Keith From bens Tue Feb 22 14:14:29 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MJETa9030993 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:14:29 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MJETRI030992 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:14:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:14:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200502221914.j1MJET2e030988@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mojave Road Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yep, it was great. A lot of history, beautiful scenery and great companions made this trip a winner, rain and all. Thanks to Charles, Josh, Melissa, Jack and Gail(sp?) for a great trip. I'll be back in Georgia for Memorial Day so I'll have to beg off on that one, but maybe we could head down there again in the fall. Stu "That's bloody Africa for you. Everything bites!" -A professional hunter after being bitten by his malarial wife From bens Tue Feb 22 15:47:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MKlIa9002548 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:47:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MKlII4002547 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:47:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:47:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222047.j1MKlI6I002543@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: hipine@att.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] "....My other option is the BFG Commercial Traction (which was mentioned by someone here on mendo, thanks). They're about $25 more then the dunlops but at least they are available...." And holding up better than the Dunlops too, wear wise. In my first 7,000 miles of use they've only worn about 1/32" where the RR/RTs would show at least double that wear in that mileage in my experience on the same vehicle. -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 22 15:58:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MKw0a9002964 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:58:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MKw0nY002963 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:58:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:58:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222058.j1MKw0bY002959@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "FoothillsSIII" To: Subject: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I need some opinions and experiences to help me decide whether to fix the cable currently on my winch, replace it with new cable, or replace it with the more modern winch rope. One of the two previous owners put much too much cable on the drum, and it is both a nuisance and has caused some cable damage. The cable would still be more than adequately long and would be in good condition if cut back to eliminate the damaged spots, but while buying new cable or rope is easy, finding someplace to recrimp the hook is not. The rope seems much more user friendly than cable, but I know only what those trying to sell it have to say about it vs cable. Todd 82 S3 88" _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com From bens Tue Feb 22 16:12:06 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MLC6a9003645 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:12:06 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MLC6pE003644 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:12:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:12:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222112.j1MLC6u7003640@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: RE: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 28 lines filtered. ] Buy rope. It make winching soooooo much easier. Plus when it does accidentally break you won't kill anyone with the backlash. I really like the X-line I have on Regents Ramsey RE10000. It has frayed in certain spots around the eye from how it is spooled in, but I figure you are more likely to see damage and replace it than on a wire rope. -Rob From bens Tue Feb 22 16:16:42 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MLGga9003867 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:16:42 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MLGgs4003866 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:16:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:16:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222116.j1MLGfLr003862@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: RE: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What type of winch is it going on? Rope is not very forgiving of heat and there are many electrics that use a brake inside the drum, which generates heat, which effects rope life. Pete > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org] On Behalf Of FoothillsSIII > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:58 > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Subject: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope > > > [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 22 16:57:07 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MLv7a9005667 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:57:07 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MLv7jG005666 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:57:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:57:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222157.j1MLv7P7005662@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo Subject: Re: Off topic FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Its just you? looks fine to me? what do you see ( in this inkblot ) :) TomW On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 18:07, Paul Archibald wrote: > is it just me? or is something funny about this photo? > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/278441914/278449389AzigON > > look close at things, right and left! > > Paul From bens Tue Feb 22 17:14:57 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MMEva9006286 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:14:57 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MMEv9w006285 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:14:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:14:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222214.j1MMEvlN006281@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo Subject: Re: Land-Rover plus Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've heard of Mac & cheese but never Mac & Rover ? I'll have to try it :) TomW On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:46, shukait@mac.com wrote: > All, > > All you Mac and Rover fans have to check this out: > > http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/15.html > > Cheers, > > Keith -- TomW From bens Tue Feb 22 17:30:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MMUCa9007043 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:30:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MMUCWF007042 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:30:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:30:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222230.j1MMUBKK007038@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Subscribing to the Mendo List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All/Anyone - Is Majordomo@fourfold.org the correct place to subscribe to the list? That is all... Eric From bens Tue Feb 22 17:59:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MMxDa9008166 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:59:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MMxDQt008165 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:59:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:59:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222259.j1MMxCH1008161@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Subscribing to the Mendo List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, That's what I have saved if it hasn't changed lately it should work. Bob B At 02:30 PM 2/22/2005, you wrote: >All/Anyone - > >Is Majordomo@fourfold.org the correct place to subscribe to the list? > > >That is all... > >Eric From bens Tue Feb 22 18:09:35 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MN9Za9008612 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:09:35 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MN9ZoA008611 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:09:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:09:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222309.j1MN9ZeO008607@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: hipine@att.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 24 lines filtered. ] "...if i could just figure out a way to get one tire from somewhere and then i could claim that they are on my vehicle ..." Do you really need to "show a note from your doctor" to buy a tire???? I have a pair of 7.50-16 RR/RTs that I won't have any use for as soon as I buy a couple more Com Trac's for spares. These two tires have about half tread on them and pretty even wear. Free to a good home if I can make Mendo. Need to get the turbodiesel swapped into the G to help defer fuel costs though. Wish me luck! -Dave G. -------------- Original message from Eric Schoenman : -------------- From bens Tue Feb 22 18:11:32 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1MNBWa9008815 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1MNBWfT008814 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200502222311.j1MNBW6L008810@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: hipine@att.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off topic FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] "...they used a MKII quarter panel..." The deck lid hinge bolt plate is different side to side too. I actually noticed that before the tail lamp. But maybe they're all like that, I don't even know what kind of car it is. :^) -Dave G. From bens Tue Feb 22 19:37:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N0bPa9012363 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:37:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N0bPaJ012362 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:37:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:37:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230037.j1N0bPIs012358@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, So you think the BFG Com trac is a better tire? I'm looking for a good all around tire. I'm giving up have tow sets of wheels (BFG M/T and Michelin 205 xpc) and trying to go for one tire that is good on the road and decent in mud and rock. i don't put too many miles a year so life is less of an issue. I appreciate and advice. 88RRC Eric On Feb 22, 2005, at 12:47 PM, hipine@att.net wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html ] > [ 17 lines filtered. ] > > > "....My other option is the BFG Commercial Traction (which was > mentioned by someone here on mendo, thanks). They're about $25 more > then the dunlops but at least they are available...." [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Feb 22 21:06:59 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N26xa9016049 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:06:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N26xux016048 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:06:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:06:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230206.j1N26xYt016044@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "FoothillsSIII" To: Subject: RE: Winch Lines Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "What type of winch is it going on? Rope is not very forgiving of heat and there are many electrics that use a brake inside the drum, which generates heat, which effects rope life. Pete" Hello Pete, The winch is a Ramsey 2000-12 worm gear drive and rated for 8000 lbs. Although this old winch is original to the Rover and thus 23 yrs old it looks very much like the current worm gear Ramsey winches. I can not remember noticing anything getting hot on the winch, but then I was not looking for the issue. Todd '82 S3 88" _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com From bens Tue Feb 22 22:48:06 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N3m6a9020069 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:48:06 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N3m6Jl020068 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:48:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230348.j1N3m5o8020064@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Winch Lines Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Todd, That's the great thing about the worm-drive winches: They hold a load without need of a brake. I'd think if any winch could tolerate the synthetic winch cable, this would be it (YMMV). Best bet, though is ask Ramsey. Seriously. Hey, I just looked at Ramsey's website and found that Ramsey offers a synthetic winch cable that's approved for all its winches, claiming that it has special heat-resisting properties or some such. See http://www.ramsey.com/automotive/accessories.html I like the old Ramsey winches (I have a PTO one for a Series Rover but no Series Rover anymore) because they have the beautiful cast spool that I don't think the new ones have. Granny > Rope is not very forgiving of heat and there are many electrics that use > a brake inside the drum, which generates heat, which effects rope life. > The winch is a Ramsey 2000-12 worm gear drive and rated for 8000 lbs. > Although this old winch is original to the Rover and thus 23 yrs old it > looks very much like the current worm gear Ramsey winches. I can not > remember noticing anything getting hot on the winch, but then I was not > looking for the issue.> From bens Tue Feb 22 23:33:17 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N4XGa9021931 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:33:16 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N4XGNs021930 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:33:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:33:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230433.j1N4XGFg021926@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Peter Hope" To: Subject: RE: Winch Lines Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well then I wouldn't be worrying about heat at all with the worm drive. I have a Ramsey PTO winch and Amsteel line and love the stuff. I didn't know that someone had developed a product that was heat resistant, as usual Granny just another good bit of info to the ole landy database. Thanks. Pete > Hello Pete, > > The winch is a Ramsey 2000-12 worm gear drive and rated for > 8000 lbs. From bens Wed Feb 23 00:28:40 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N5Sda9025591 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:28:39 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N5SdgD025590 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:28:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:28:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230528.j1N5SdJG025586@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I would be extra careful where (geographically speaking) I used rope on a winch: rope doesn't like rubbing against rocks. YMMV Charles -----Original message----- From: "FoothillsSIII" SeriesRover@speed-racer.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:58:00 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope > > I need some opinions and experiences to help me decide whether to fix the > cable currently on my winch, replace it with new cable, or replace it with > the more modern winch rope. > > One of the two previous owners put much too much cable on the drum, and it > is both a nuisance and has caused some cable damage. The cable would still > be more than adequately long and would be in good condition if cut back to > eliminate the damaged spots, but while buying new cable or rope is easy, [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Feb 23 00:48:28 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N5mRa9026694 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:48:27 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N5mREw026693 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:48:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:48:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230548.j1N5mRMo026689@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Nick B. Back in N. California Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I sent Nick an e-mail asking if he was going to make the Mendo trip and he wrote that he will try to make it, but said he has a speaking tour and does not know if a speaking event may prevent him from making it. I seemed to have lost the e-mail from Joe Lucas. Can someone post the Mendo 2005 dates again? Nick asked me to invite all the Mendo List members to the Drive Around the World homecoming at the Parkinson's Institute in Sunnyvale on Monday February 28th (I'll be up in Tahoe). Nick wrote: "Kevin, try and make it to the Parkinson's institute on 2/28 and please ask others to do so as well on my behalf. I made a mistake with invites to our launch and want to be sure Mendo hears about it since 'them is my roots.'" Kevin http://www.drivearoundtheworld.com/index.html From bens Wed Feb 23 01:36:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N6aoa9028655 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:36:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N6aoni028654 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:36:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:36:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230636.j1N6antL028650@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Winch Lines: Cable vs Rope Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The supposed answer to that is a rock chafing guard, such as Ramsey lists (I've seen others). Seems to me that you might need several of those, in some cases! Granny ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles irvin" > > I would be extra careful where (geographically speaking) I used rope on a winch: rope doesn't like rubbing against rocks. From bens Wed Feb 23 01:39:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1N6d2a9028668 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:39:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1N6d2jf028667 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:39:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:39:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200502230639.j1N6d16a028663@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Mendo Dates Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Always the last full weekend of April, this year, 22-24. Granny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kelly" > I seemed to have lost the e-mail from Joe Lucas. Can someone post the Mendo > 2005 dates again? From bens Wed Feb 23 09:59:37 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1NExba9016233 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:59:37 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1NExbdF016232 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:59:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:59:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200502231459.j1NExbn8016228@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Subscribing to the Mendo List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200502222230.j1MMUBKK007038@coriana6.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Is Majordomo@fourfold.org the correct place to subscribe to the list? That is correct. Ben From bens Wed Feb 23 15:48:53 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1NKmra9030527 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:53 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1NKmrLk030526 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200502232048.j1NKmq8F030522@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Wilcox To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Curtis Cayer?? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone know a Land Rover restoration guy by the name of Curtis Cayer out of British Columbia (may be Victoria)? If so, do you have a way to get ahold of him and/or commentary? You can contact me off line if you'd prefer. Eric Wilcox To-be-named 1971 SIIA 109" Wagon KE6ISN From bens Wed Feb 23 22:57:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1O3vDa9015213 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:57:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1O3vDqY015212 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:57:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:57:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200502240357.j1O3vCZ1015208@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Roverland looking for tech hire Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In case anyone is interested or knows someone who is, Phillipe at Roverland in San Francisco is looking for either an apprentice or possibly an experienced tech (Rover or ??). You can contact me off list and I'll get you in touch or you can call him directly at Roverland (415-648-0885). Jeremy Bartlett From bens Wed Feb 23 23:11:15 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1O4BFa9015862 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:11:15 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1O4BF1o015861 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:11:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:11:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200502240411.j1O4BFEE015857@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: "Mendo Recce List" Subject: USFS MNF Meeting(s) for Public Comment Regarding Forest Routes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, My local paper--the Ukiah Daily Journal--today, had an article about an upcoming meeting in which USFS Mendocino National Forest will entertain public input regardging trails and motorized use designations in the forest. The meeting is to be held in Ukiah, from 10 AM to 12 noon, on 12 March 2005, at the Ukiah Conference Center, Red Room. I have put this on my calendar and hope to attend but can't guarantee anything (I still might forget!). I guess I know the trails in MNF about as well as anyone in the NCRC so hope my attending will be useful. If anyone else is interested in attending, I do encourage you to do so. If you have concerns about specific routes or areas, any creative and helpful suggestions, please pass them along. Also, note below that there are meetings at Willows and Red Bluff, for those interested and close. Here's what the MNF website says about this: ____________________________________________ Mendocino National Forest to Host Public Workshops to Discuss Off-Highway Vehicle Routes Willows, February 14, 2005 - The Mendocino National Forest will hold three public workshops in March and April to discuss a Forest Service statewide effort now underway to manage motorized off-highway vehicle (OHV) use on national forests. Over the next four years, all national forests in California will designate a system of roads and trails for motorized OHV use that will enhance quality recreation opportunities, promote public safety and protect natural resources. While all national forests in Calfornia will be conducting the designation process, each forest has different OHV management standards already in place and will be charting the course of their designation process independently over the next four years. The Mendocino National Forest will host three workshops to describe the route designation process, share the routes that have been inventoried on the Mendocino, and identify members of the public who are interested in participating in the Mendocino's designation process in the future. All workshops are on Saturday mornings from 10 a.m. to noon on the following dates: March 5, 2005 Willows, CA Supervisor's Office 825 No. Humboldt Ave March 12, 2005 Ukiah, CA Conference Center Red Room 200 S. School St. April 2, 2005 Red Bluff, CA Community Center Westside Room 1500 So. Jackson For more information on the Mendocino's program, please call Jeff Applegate at (530) 963-3128, TTY 934-7728, or about meetings at other national forests in California check the website at www.fs.fed.us/r5/mendocino. ____________________________________________ Regards, Granny From bens Thu Feb 24 00:23:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1O5Noa9019981 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:23:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1O5NoWs019980 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:23:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:23:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200502240523.j1O5No43019976@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Roverland looking for tech hire Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org funny! I was going over our conversaton from many years ago when you did this and I was about to, but didn't... I am heading over to the Fresno dealership tomorrow about a possibility as a service writer...go figure! tired of the "other stuff!" if they offer me an apprentice position instead, i would probably take it for now...just a few years behind you... Paul --- Jeremy Bartlett wrote: > > In case anyone is interested or knows someone who is, > Phillipe at > Roverland in San Francisco is looking for either an > apprentice or > possibly an experienced tech (Rover or ??). You can > contact me off list > and I'll get you in touch or you can call him directly at > Roverland [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Feb 24 08:52:14 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1ODqEa9008445 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:52:14 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1ODqE9k008444 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:52:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:52:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502241352.j1ODqDws008440@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Drive around the world Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I just got an email from Nick Baggarly asking that I forward an invitation to the drivearoundtheworld finale to the list. http://www.fourfold.org/mendo_recce/invitation.pdf The event is 11am on Monday at the Parkinson's Institute. 1170 Morse Ave, Sunnyvale. They are asking for RSVPs via email to: drivearoundtheworld@paccomgrp.com. Ignore the RSVP date of the 23rd and send it in as soon as you can if you want to go. Nick said that he'd really like to see mendo and NCRC people at the finale if they had the time. He also mentioned that he'd love to end the event with a Rover (Series and coiler) convoy for the last few miles into the finale. Anyone who wants to join the convoy (or who wants to coordinate those that want to join the convoy), should call Nick at 408-355-5544. I know that a number of people were disappointed when the expedition left and mendo people weren't invited. if I recall correctly it was because he was busy and forgot. This time he's reaching out to fix that by inviting everyone to the end of the expedition. Hopefully some of you will have the time to go to the event. Ben From bens Thu Feb 24 11:00:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1OG0Pa9014804 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:00:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1OG0Pxn014803 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:00:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:00:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200502241600.j1OG0OR8014799@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Nick B. Back in N. California Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ..would be nice if a Sat or Sun. Monday 11:00am I'll be working in San Diego. Regards, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:48:27 -0500 From: "Kevin Kelly" Subject: Nick B. Back in N. California Nick asked me to invite all the Mendo List members to the Drive Around the World homecoming at the Parkinson's Institute in Sunnyvale on Monday February 28th (I'll be up in Tahoe). Nick wrote: "Kevin, try and make it to the Parkinson's institute on 2/28 and please ask others to do so as well on my behalf. I made a mistake with invites to our launch and want to be sure Mendo hears about it since 'them is my roots.'" Kevin http://www.drivearoundtheworld.com/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Feb 24 12:03:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1OH3sa9017266 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:03:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1OH3sjQ017265 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:03:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:03:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200502241703.j1OH3sf7017261@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo Subject: Re: re. Nick B. Back in N. California Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm pretty sure my commute is a bit longer than that :) At least its not raining here! On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 08:00, joe mulqueen wrote: > ..would be nice if a Sat or Sun. Monday 11:00am I'll > be working in San Diego. > Regards, > Joe Mulqueen > '67 SIIA 109 SW > > > / -- TomW From bens Thu Feb 24 19:17:55 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1P0Hta9002249 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:17:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1P0Ht6u002248 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:17:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:17:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200502250017.j1P0HsCb002244@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "mpatrykus@netzero.net" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Question for Tucson Rover Guys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone in Tucson (Rob Modica or others) know if Rovers West is still doing business? I'm in town for a few days and stopped by there but no sign of Patrick... Mo Patrykus 64 109 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From bens Thu Feb 24 22:24:57 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1P3Ova9009818 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:24:57 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1P3Ov1J009817 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:24:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:24:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200502250324.j1P3Ov2T009813@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Dave G." To: Subject: Re: dunlop RT's - being phased out? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....So you think the BFG Com trac is a better tire?...." Better for my needs, which include 20k miles of road travel a year with this road travel incluing snow and ice a good portion of the time. I haven't done much off-roading with these tires yet, but reports from folks in England comparing them to the trac edge seemed to come out well. Only you can determine what tire is best for your own set of needs, and the only way to confirm your suspicions is to buy a set and try them. I'm really satisfied with the Com Tracs, but your overall needs might mean a different tire would be better for you. Good luck! -Dave G. From bens Fri Feb 25 01:38:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1P6c0a9019221 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:38:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1P6bxr6019220 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:37:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:37:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502250637.j1P6bx5i019216@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Drive around the world Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!! I'll be at work: I skipped a day for going on Mojave Road, and I think Janet may still be a bit sore that she couldn't go, so I had better not miss anymore days anytime soon... :( Charles -----Original message----- From: Benjamin Allan Smith bens@gdbg.org Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:52:14 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Drive around the world > > > I just got an email from Nick Baggarly asking that I forward an invitation > to the drivearoundtheworld finale to the list. > > http://www.fourfold.org/mendo_recce/invitation.pdf > > The event is 11am on Monday at the Parkinson's Institute. 1170 Morse Ave, > Sunnyvale. They are asking for RSVPs via email to: [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Feb 25 09:35:46 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1PEZka9006194 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1PEZkwm006193 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:35:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:35:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200502251435.j1PEZjdR006189@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jess Alvarez To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Question for Tucson Rover Guys Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] I will ask the AZLRO guys and let you know what they say. Jess "mpatrykus@netzero.net" wrote: Anyone in Tucson (Rob Modica or others) know if Rovers West is still doing business? I'm in town for a few days and stopped by there but no sign of Patrick... Mo Patrykus 64 109 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. From bens Fri Feb 25 13:44:18 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1PIiIa9016346 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:44:18 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1PIiIob016345 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:44:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:44:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200502251844.j1PIiISU016341@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "kminnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Contact info for Aidan Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi guys- Does anyone have contact info for Aidan? Reply to me direct as I'm on digest. I think I have a buyer for the MG 1100 if it's still there. We use to have one when I was a kid and my Dad has fond memories of it (silly man). Later, Kelly Minnick (kminnick@gte.net) From bens Fri Feb 25 20:40:28 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1Q1eSa9001244 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:40:28 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1Q1eSbT001243 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:40:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200502260140.j1Q1eSk4001239@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: "Mendo Recce List" Subject: Fw: [IBEXlist] New Ibex website from Ricardo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org For those who care: > Just spotted the following link on the Ricardo website > > http://www.ibexvehicles.com/ Ricardo (racing gearboxes, etc.) recently took over manufacture of the Foers Ibex vehicle, with John Foers's son supervising. Granny From bens Sat Feb 26 01:40:50 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1Q6eoa9015066 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:40:50 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1Q6eo2e015065 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:40:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:40:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502260640.j1Q6enB7015061@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Working on the Rangie... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Okay, I figured out why the truck was wandering all over the place, and if it were a dog... Bad ball joints, and equally bad steering stabilizer!!! I replaced both this evening, and the truck handles just super once again. Replaced the brake pads a few days ago, and now Janet can sneak up on people! Now it needs a bath after Mojave Rd., and then I'll look into stereo speakers... Charles From bens Sat Feb 26 11:10:53 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1QGAra9005373 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:10:53 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1QGArmt005372 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:10:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:10:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200502261610.j1QGAqQq005368@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "FoothillsSIII" To: Subject: Re:Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1552 (Winch Lines) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Thanks for the info about both the winch rope and about my old winch. I am now convinced that the rope, with some precautions, will be a good solution. This prefered solution did, however, get postponed by what can only be called " the old Rover factor". I learned that the shop for Robinson Timber in Nevada City takes in some outside work on winches, cable, chain, and hydralics to keep their techs busy. When I called to see if they could / would do a cable job on my Rover their cable guy made a point of confirming that it was an "old safari car" type Rover , Series Truck to us; and with a "COOL" said to bring it in for him to look at at lunch and the work would hardly cost anything and only take a few minutes. A kind offer and genuine if naive interest in Rovers that I had to accept. I look on this as the payoff for all the times that "the old Rover factor" simply means that you get stoped in the parking lot by some one with a bunch of questions. Todd '82 S3 88" _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com From bens Sat Feb 26 14:02:05 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1QJ25a9012136 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:02:05 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1QJ25JC012135 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:02:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:02:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200502261902.j1QJ257F012131@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1554 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Gran, Have you ever heard of an Ibex being imported into the U.S.? Let alone California? I saw many of these when I lived in Germany and when visiting my girlfriend at school in London. I love them. Just wish "Comie"fornia would let up on the stringent smog and road limitations. We could have all kinds of cool cars and trucks. Thanks, Josh _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From bens Sat Feb 26 14:19:04 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1QJJ4a9012720 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:19:04 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1QJJ4uh012719 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:19:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:19:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200502261919.j1QJJ4Qm012715@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave Road Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Stu, Let me know what your snail mail address is and I will send you a CD with our pics on it. It's just easier than trying to send 150 pics via e-mail. So, keep in touch and maybe we can just do some local trails. I think there are a lot up by you. My friend just got some books showing all of the off-road trails in California. he's ready to go too. Look forward to hearing from you. Glad you had a good time. I had a great time as well. Talk to ya later, Josh _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From bens Sat Feb 26 14:55:49 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1QJtna9014285 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:55:49 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1QJtnbf014284 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:55:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:55:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200502261955.j1QJtn6P014280@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Ibex Importation Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh wrote: > Hey Gran, > Have you ever heard of an Ibex being imported into the U.S.? Let alone > California? I saw many of these when I lived in Germany and when visiting > my girlfriend at school in London. I love them. > Just wish "Comie"fornia would let up on the stringent smog and road > limitations. We could have all kinds of cool cars and trucks. Yes, there's one in the US, in Nevada, probably still not assembled. Yes, you can bring one, in kit form, into Kalifoaniuh, and license it as a specially constructed vehicle. As I understand the DMV/CARB rules, you can even equip it with a Tdi engine or whatever engine you like. Granny From bens Sat Feb 26 18:23:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1QNN2a9022509 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:23:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1QNN243022508 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:23:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:23:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200502262323.j1QNN2mk022504@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ibex Importation Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gran, Thanks for the info. Do you hapen to know where I might start looking into finding an Ibex "kit" to bring in? 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Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bens Sat Feb 26 19:30:12 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R0UCa9025191 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:30:12 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R0UCSr025190 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:30:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:30:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270030.j1R0UBru025186@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Ibex Importation Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, > Thanks for the info. Do you hapen to know where I might start looking into > finding an Ibex "kit" to bring in? Thanks again. Either through Ricardo, via the website I previously listed or through Maddison 4x4 in Thirsk, North Yorkshire, http://www.maddison4x4.com/foers_ibex/ Maddison 4x4 will source the donor components you need, if you wish, as well as working with Foers to make various custom mods, such as tree-rubbing bars for the roof edges, etc. However, based on what I read (about legality) in some of the links below, be careful about getting everything from one source! Particularly, check out the ingenious, patented, center-mounted winch system available on the Ibex, which is permanently rigged to self-recover from both ends and can also be used to "trolley" yourself along a dangerous passage. I saw this system in action on John Foers's Ibex demonstrator, when we were part of Team Thunderbex at the Highland Enduro, in November 1996. Here are some links about DMV and other regulations that may apply: http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=27822 http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/spcns.htm http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/checklists/special_con.htm http://www.up22.com/Smog.htm http://www.rqriley.com/license.htm http://www.eastcoastrover.com/imports.html (scroll down to "Kit Cars and SPCV's") http://www.clubcobra.com/t53774.html (interesting and eye-opening discussion!) You can find a lot more, via Google and a search for "specially constructed vehicle" and "California" Granny From bens Sat Feb 26 22:43:27 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R3hRa9000365 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:43:27 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R3hR4h000364 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:43:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:43:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270343.j1R3hRkF000360@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Gran, I am planning on attending my first Mendo Trip in April. Where is the base camp going to be located? If that is how it works. Well, let me ask this, Are we going to camp and those who want to off-road can or is it all off-roading? Thanks for listening to all of my rambling. Regards, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bens Sat Feb 26 23:09:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R490a9001394 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:09:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R49057001393 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:09:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:09:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270409.j1R490Mx001389@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Stuart Ivie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mojave Road Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cool! It's Stuart Ivie P.O. Box 203 Corte Madera, CA 94976 As far as trips, I'm ready when you are. I had a blast out there. Keep in touch. Stu "That's bloody Africa for you. Everything bites!" -A professional hunter after being bitten by his malarial wife From bens Sun Feb 27 01:17:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R6Hia9008167 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:17:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R6HiKC008166 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:17:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:17:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270617.j1R6Hhub008162@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, Normally, the base of ops is at Cedar Camp, atop Cow Mountain. However, this has been known in recent years (well, two years ago) to have been moved to a lower altitude due to snow. You can setup your tent & stuff, and leave it in place while you hit the trails for 2 1/2 days. There are also toilets there (no water except for the stream!), but bring toilet paper - just in case the stuff in the toilets has run out before you get there! (last few times the rangers were a bit slow about re-stocking them) If you have a BLM map of the area, bring it: there's a gazillion trails up there. Only one catch: Saturday night is a potluck dinner, so 'ya gotta bring "an offering" to the almighty Lucas, so that your off-roading will be peaceful & uneventful. :) Charles -----Original message----- From: "joshua fischer" jfischer160@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:43:27 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Mendo Trip Location > > Hey Gran, > I am planning on attending my first Mendo Trip in April. Where is the base > camp going to be located? If that is how it works. Well, let me ask this, > Are we going to camp and those who want to off-road can or is it all > off-roading? Thanks for listening to all of my rambling. > > Regards, > Josh [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 27 02:14:13 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R7EDa9010327 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:14:13 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R7EDxp010326 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:14:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:14:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270714.j1R7ED3T010322@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, Most of what Charles wrote is the straight scoop, except Cedar Camp is well down the east slope of Goat Mountain, not atop Cow Mountain! We have camped there for about 7 years but too much snow (rare) could convince us to move to LIttle Stony or elsewhere at a lower elevation. If you send off now, you can get a USFS Menocino National Forest map by mail, in plenty of time. Anything you'd care to bring for the potluck will be great. There's always too much of everything, except maybe Single Malt, of which there always seems to be just enough! See you there, Granny > Normally, the base of ops is at Cedar Camp, atop Cow Mountain. From bens Sun Feb 27 03:16:58 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R8Gwa9012892 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:16:58 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R8GwV7012891 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:16:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:16:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270816.j1R8GwBl012887@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: crocuta@earthlink.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ibex Importation Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 44 lines filtered. ] Hello! Thank you so much for all those links! That saved me a ton of research as I am interested in (eventually) building a CORSE (Lancia Stratos replica) but I was wondering if I needed to move out of state to do it or not. Now I know! -Marshall From bens Sun Feb 27 04:30:25 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1R9UPa9020773 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 04:30:25 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1R9UPhv020772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 04:30:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 04:30:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200502270930.j1R9UPC8020768@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Ibex Importation Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just out of curiosity Granny, what does an Ibex kit cost. RRC's are getting so cheap you can pick up all the mechanicals for less than you can buy a junk Series truck. The only hold back on building would be time and the cost of the Ibex parts. Since we all have too much time on our hands, guess the only excuse not to build one is obtaining stuff from Ibex. Aloha Peter O. --- joshua fischer wrote: > > Gran, > Thanks for the info. Do you hapen to know where I > might start looking into > finding an Ibex "kit" to bring in? Thanks again. > > Josh > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From bens Sun Feb 27 15:27:58 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1RKRwa9014409 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:27:58 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1RKRwP0014408 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:27:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200502272027.j1RKRwGE014404@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, What BLM Map(s) would I have to get to cover the Mendo Trip area? Would I just get the Whole Mendocino Nat'l Forest or just a specific spot. Also, What town is the closest to where we would be going? Thanks again for all of the help. Cheers, Josh _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bens Sun Feb 27 16:38:24 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1RLcOa9017182 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:38:24 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1RLcOWG017181 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:38:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:38:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200502272138.j1RLcOGf017177@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Steven To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm new to the list so if this info is redundant please forgive it. As to maps for off-roading, I would like to recommend the program written by Doug Cox, a retired airline pilot, he named USAPhotoMaps. What can be done with this program is truly amazing! It will download aerial photos, topo maps, and in urban areas, high resolution color photos of a specific area. The maps are downloaded automatically from the TerraServer at no cost. The program is free and contains no spyware or other nasties. If one has a Garmin or Magellan GPS unit the program can show location via a serial cable in your laptop and your waypoints, etc. can be manipulated and organized. If one downloads the States.zip addition at the site you can select a GoTo in the program and type in a specific populated area or coordinates. I have no affiliation to this author or program, but I highly recommend it. Hope this helps someone. Steven > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:27:58 -0500 > From: "joshua fischer" > Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location > > Charles, > What BLM Map(s) would I have to get to cover the Mendo Trip area? Would I > just get the Whole Mendocino Nat'l Forest or just a specific spot. Also, [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Feb 27 19:04:00 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S040a9022969 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:04:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S040R7022968 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:04:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:03:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280003.j1S03xGk022962@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: one job done and a discovery Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So in the continuing Dormie brake job saga, I'm done. Today I pulled the old rear shoes and installed new ones, checking the leading and trailing shoes as installed and as they should be (Big Thanks to TeriAnn) and they were fine. Brake pull off springs were fine and the new shoes went on with out spilling brake fluid, so no bleeding. I adjusted all 4 shoes and finally tested all my wrenches to see exactly what the heck size the adjuster bolt head is: 3/8 Whit. I had been using a 3/4 socket, but that wasn't right and nothing "normal" fit well. the Whitworth wrench fits snug and perfect. The Bible says Girling brake adjustment wrench, but from no on I'll be using my open ended Whit, or maybe I have a Whit socket. I'll check later. Took the Dormie out for a test drive and it's great. The brakes work well when I push the pedal down, and they work easily with a slight push of the pedal, with increasing braking as the pedal is pushed. So, We now have a Dormie and wanna be Dormie up and running. Stubby is going to need new rear hub seals and complete brake jobs, then I'll install the pertronix and I think, fiddle with the carb. It's raining, the Dormie is done, and I have a Winterhook from Red Hook in front of me. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 2004 Honda Element "Ellie?" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano-the commuter, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2004 Steve Rex-road single ours: 2005 Steve Rex tandem (coming) From bens Sun Feb 27 19:34:57 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S0Yva9024191 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S0Yve1024190 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:34:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:34:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280034.j1S0Yv7a024186@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh asked: > What BLM Map(s) would I have to get to cover the Mendo Trip area? Would I > just get the Whole Mendocino Nat'l Forest or just a specific spot. BLM Edition 1997 Surface Management Status, California, Lakeport 1:100,000-scale topographic map. USFS forest maps, including MNF, can be ordered via http://www.fs.fed.us/maps/. If you can get it by mail, you also want the Grindstone District Off-Highway Vehicle Guide. The home page for MNF is http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/mendocino/. > What town is the closest to where we would be going? Thanks again for all > of the help. Lodoga and Stonyford (small villages, not really towns). Directions to Cedar Camp (in great and excellent detail) are at http://www.fourfold.org/mendo_recce/cedar_camp.html Cheers, Granny From bens Sun Feb 27 20:10:39 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S1Ada9025834 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:10:39 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S1AdUI025833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:10:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:10:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280110.j1S1AcRc025829@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: (2) Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I meant to also mention that the DeLorme Northern California Atlas (at bookstores) is fairly useful. I keep meaning to get a new one as my old one is quite beat up and doesn't have the very helpful shaded relief that the newer ones have. As I recall, it's at 1:100,000 scale, like the BLM map I mentioned. The BLM map I listed is very detailed, for such a small scale, but quite difficult to read (at least for me, with my old codger's eyes). Granny From bens Sun Feb 27 20:42:34 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S1gYa9027028 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:42:34 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S1gYq7027027 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:42:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:42:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280142.j1S1gYSZ027023@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Dave G." To: Subject: Re: one job done and a discovery Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I have a Winterhook from Red Hook...." And that's maybe the best news of all. Perseverence wins the day. Most excelent job. Let's hope you didn't catch the creepin' crud that's going around, being out in the chilly dampness. Maybe that beer needs a single malt chaser, just to be on the safe side. :^) -Dave G. From bens Sun Feb 27 23:07:36 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S47aa9032726 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:07:36 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S47aWV032725 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:07:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:07:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280407.j1S47Z3e032721@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Good! I didn't go last year but I've been a few times before that. This year I'm driving up from San Diego - a long journey but worth the fun. Anyone else driving up from Socal? Anyone driving in from out of state? Cheers, JoeM '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:43:27 -0500 From: "joshua fischer" Subject: Mendo Trip Location Hey Gran, I am planning on attending my first Mendo Trip in April. .... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Sun Feb 27 23:47:02 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1S4l2a9001895 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:47:02 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1S4l2v4001894 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:47:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:47:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200502280447.j1S4l1mM001890@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "GrannyP" To: Subject: Re: re. Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, I'm pleased to hear that you will be coming, from so far away! I'm looking forward to seeing you again. Indications are that this year will be a big one, with a number of folks returning who have not been for a while, some coming from far out of state. Gonna be great! Granny > Good! I didn't go last year but I've been a few times > before that. This year I'm driving up from San Diego - > a long journey but worth the fun. Anyone else driving > up from Socal? Anyone driving in from out of state? From bens Mon Feb 28 11:56:44 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1SGuia9000481 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:44 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1SGuiRS000480 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200502281656.j1SGuik4000475@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Josh, aside from what others have mentioned: if you're planning on coming up I-5, the nearest town would be Maxwell. I can never remember correctly, but either Williams or Maxwell has a Motel 6 for Joe M., if he gets there kinda late & doesn't feel like going up the hill in the dark. ...Wonder if there will be anything going on at Thunderhill Raceway in Willows that weekend?.... Janet & I are planning on being there in the Rangie, BUT - if I can get something else done by that weekend...... :) Charles -----Original message----- From: "joshua fischer" jfischer160@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:27:58 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo Trip Location > > Charles, > What BLM Map(s) would I have to get to cover the Mendo Trip area? Would I > just get the Whole Mendocino Nat'l Forest or just a specific spot. Also, > What town is the closest to where we would be going? Thanks again for all > of the help. > > Cheers, > Josh [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 28 12:04:11 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j1SH4Ba9000740 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:04:11 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j1SH4AsL000739 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:04:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:04:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200502281704.j1SH4ADB000735@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: charles irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: one job done and a discovery Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yup...I get to do the front brakes on the SW this evening...the rears maybe tomorrow night - I have to find the spot that the rear hub seals are hiding in! Charles -----Original message----- From: John Hess jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:04:00 -0800 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: one job done and a discovery > > So in the continuing Dormie brake job saga, I'm done. > > Today I pulled the old rear shoes and installed new ones, checking the > leading and trailing shoes as installed and as they should be (Big > Thanks to TeriAnn) and they were fine. Brake pull off springs were > fine and the new shoes went on with out spilling brake fluid, so no > bleeding. I adjusted all 4 shoes and finally tested all my wrenches to > see exactly what the heck size the adjuster bolt head is: 3/8 Whit. I [ 29 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 28 22:45:26 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j213jQa9027086 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:45:26 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j213jQNL027085 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:45:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:45:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200503010345.j213jQTc027081@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Matt W" To: Subject: Re: re. Mendo Trip Location Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll be driving the series 3 up from Santa Barbara Probably leave Thursday night and fiond something/place on the road to sleep. Thentry and meet up with a convoy in the east bay on Friday. ac ouple of years ago didnt we meet at the Black Oak restraunt Location? Matt Wilson Also Jason #2 is coming with his Jeep 82CJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe mulqueen" To: "mendo" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: re. Mendo Trip Location > > Good! I didn't go last year but I've been a few times > before that. This year I'm driving up from San Diego - > a long journey but worth the fun. Anyone else driving > up from Socal? Anyone driving in from out of state? > Cheers, > JoeM > '67 SIIA 109 SW > [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Feb 28 23:33:01 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j214X1a9028969 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:33:01 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j214X1vo028968 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:33:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:33:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200503010433.j214X0PC028964@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: The Sanders To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1556 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello all, Yes, I have been pondering a dreaded decision lately. The decision is that I am going to sell my beloved 1966109" SW. It is due to the fact that we need something more user friendly for my family. So, I am looking seriously about getting a 93-95 Range Rover since I cannot bear not having a Land Rover (It sounds all so dramatic, doesn't it?). I am offering up the truck here first since I know that there are some potential good homes on this list. If anyone is interested, just email me and I will give you the low down. If anyone has a trade in mind or knows of a 93-95 RRC out there that needs a home, please let me know. Thanks and have fun at the Mendo gathering. I'll get there eventually! Brent Sanders 1966 SIIa 109SW From bens Mon Feb 28 23:41:54 2005 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j214fsa9029388 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:41:54 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j214fs2i029387 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:41:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:41:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200503010441.j214frUo029383@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "John Shelton" To: Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1556 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey Joe, I didn't think I'd have my IIA ready in time for this year's mendo but I am interested in taking my 95 RRC (new addition to the stable). It's been about 6 years since I did this trip, I rode up in Jimmy Patrick's old red 1988 Rangie. In fact I think that was the first year you and Tam were there! If I make it we can convoy from Encinitas, you have your ham right? If not I also have a GMRS radio and a cell phone too. John Shelton N6JMS > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:07:35 -0500 > From: joe mulqueen > Subject: re. Mendo Trip Location > Good! I didn't go last year but I've been a few times before that. > This year I'm driving up from San Diego - a long journey but worth > the fun. Anyone else driving up from Socal? Anyone driving in from > out of state?